Basketball Jan 4 vs NC State

The Hokies play NC State today at 7 PM in Cassell Coliseum. The game is on the ACC Network. NC State is 7-7 and 0-3 in ACC play with losses at home to Louisville and FSU and at Miami.

SCHEDULE

Out of Conference:

In Conference:

The Hokies will match up well with NC State. The Wolfpack does have 6'11" Dowuona, who plays 26 min/game; but he is prone to foul trouble having fouled out of 4 games overall and 2 of the 3 ACC games.

Roster

#1 Dereon Seabron 6'7 G R-So. 36.7 MPG: 19.6 PPG: 10.1 RPG: 3.6 APG: 2.9 TOPG

#0 Terquavion Smith 6'4 G Fr. 29.6 MPG: 14.4 PPG: 3.7 RPG: 1.9 APG: 1.6 TOPG

#4 Jericole Hellems 6'7 F Sr. 34.2 MPG: 14 PPG: 4.3 RPG: 1.6 APG: 1.8 TOPG

#5 Thomas Allen 6'1 G R-Sr. 14.9 MPG: 3.3 PPG: 1.4 RPG: 1 APG: 0.3 TOPG

#3 Cam Hayes 6'3 G So. 25.4 MPG: 9.9 PPG: 2.7 RPG: 2.7 APG: 1.1 TOPG

#21 Ebenezer Dowuona 6'11 F So. 26.3 MPG: 3.9 PPG: 5 RPG: 0 APG: 0.3 TOPG

The Wolfpack is shooting 34% from three and allowing opponents to shoot 43.5% in ACC play. #0 Smith is the primary threat from deep. # 4 Hellems was also a factor in the non-conference part of the schedule; but has only shot 26% from three against ACC teams. Their big man Dowuona is more of a defensive player only scoring about 4 ppg. #1 Seabron is the best scorer on the team averaging almost 20 ppg and about 10 rebounds per game in both non-con and ACC play. NC State has averaged 77 points per game in ACC play; but they give up 82 PPG.

STATISTICS

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Based on their record, NC State is not a very good team. They lost to both Richmond and Wright State. They are winless in the ACC. Either VT or NC State will get their first ACC win tonight. The Hokies are favored by 9.5 points with an over/under of 137.5. If Aluma and Mutts can get Wowuona in early foul trouble, the Hokies should be able to play their game both inside and outside and coast to an easy win.

GO HOKIES!

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Way to fuck it up ACCN, you're garbage

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Unbelievable that they get this wrong so frequently

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Just tuned into the ACCN to see a pass to an offensive lineman that went for negative yards on a crucial 3rd down play with the game coming to an end...

Is coronavirus over yet?

Alleyne cant remember how to shoot a 3. Hes got a mental block now.

My wife takes the kids and leaves the house while I watch my Hokie games.........nuff said

after he made that 1st one I thought he might be hot tonight.. not so much

Have no idea how that isn't clear path flagrant?

Fire Whit.

Incredible Not calling that a flagrant

that was ridiculous. also the block that followed looked awfully close to a goaltend

Thats because it was a goal tend. But its ACCN so no replays on close calls.

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ACCN is trash. Play stopped - no indication why. Just keep blabbing away about a play that already happened.

Missed clear path foul followed up by a missed goaltending call, all within a span of about 20 seconds.

What a fucking joke.

NC State applying (effective) backcourt pressure from the tip, slowing down Murphy, forcing us to burn 10 seconds off the clock to even get into our offense. Also doing a great job denying Aluma the ball in the post while switching on most of screens.. that is the formula for shutting us down. Not looking good.. especially when we're not making them pay for collapsing on the lane any time we do get the ball past the perimeter.

I think the problem of making them pay for collapsing in the pocket, has changed.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Regardless of that officiating, these slow starts are getting old. I know the COVId pause caused some rust but this is rough.

Fire Whit.

as the season goes on the lack of athleticism / explosiveness on this team becomes more obvious as the limiting factor. can be mitigated to some degree *if* they hit open shots

Apparently no one can make an open 3 right now

Nobody wearing white. NC State not missing.

Jk just gotta put in Maddox and pedulla for storm and alleyne

We look like a team that hasn't played in 2 weeks, which we are. Everything is slow, everyone is timid. They're doubling the post, be ready to shoot or attack on the pass. The hesitation is killing us. That possession with 3 offensive rebounds but no points is embarrassing

Just don't understand taking out pedulla there with all the momentum

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Damn love to see that run. Storm with a Good dish. Maddox playing his Nuts off

Didn't see that coming. Halftime lead and playing well over the last 5 minutes

OMG 14 Pt run.
I'm liking the passing.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

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Spurtle ad. We are going to win.

Much better final fourish mins. I guess going down 10 woke them up. Passes were crisp, better offball movement and spacing Helped that NC State went cold but I'll take that all day long. More Maddox please as well.

great finish to the 1st half, lets keep it rolling!

and as soon as I post that, Mutts passes out of a 1on1 post-up vs a guard to Alleyne who proceeds to take a contested pull-up jumper...

Just wasting shots with alleyne in man....insane

What has happened to Alleyne? Guy can't buy a bucket from anywhere on the court.

Need more maddox less allyene

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It's like I gotta kill someone to get Maddox in man; alleyne ain't it, I love he's a hokie but until
He can shake his funk he's a liability

These scoreless runs should not be happening this far into the season. They plagued us early but they should not still be happening.

Fire Whit.

Blew the load too early

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this is shaping up to be a game of runs.. hope we can finish on a nice 15-0 run to close out a 5pt win lol

We simply lack talent and athleticism. That's all folks.

Is coronavirus over yet?

Defense is getting jumbled and is a step slow, especially on closeouts, leading to the Pack feasting on open shots and lanes. Offense can't do much unless Mutts and Aluma are out there. Also yet another game were Alleyne is unplayable

Smith and Seabron are studs.

Fire Whit.

Get. Alleyne. Out.

Fire Whit.

Meanwhile - wake is blowing the doors off Florida state tonight

Mutts has dunk if he spins baseline. Instead kicks out to Alleyne. Clank. FACEPALM

JESUS TAKE ALLEYNE OUT THE GAME

Young. You got to get Alleyne out of there. Its basically 5-4 out there

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Alleyne needs a sports psychologist or something. You can tell his confidence is shook and he's in his head. He's not having any fun out there.

May we all get what we want and never what we deserve.

Maddox needs to get all the minutes Alleyne is playing.

Is coronavirus over yet?

I haven't yelled stop shooting at the TV so much since Bede was jacking them up.

Another thing. We never have the whole team play a complete game. Its like 2-3 at most

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Bonus with 7+minutes is gonna be crucial

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Attack the post hard. I swear if Alleyne shoots more jumpers I'm gonna smash shit

When they decide to score, can erase deficits fast. Just wish it could be strung together over time.

I think mutts has ad 4-5 turnovers off of lazy weird passes tonight

Mutts trying to hard. Trying to make the perfect pass.

how many offensive rebounds have we given up tonight? Just seems like a whole lot

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there was a stretch there with 4 offensive rebounds in a row by NCST, then a foul on us, another offensive rebound, made NCST basket, turnover by us, offensive rebound, turnover by us...

WHY IS THE MOST EFFICIENT PLAYER NOT IN THE GAME

Why is Alleyne still in the fucking game

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what was that shot

Danny is always open

good grief.....airball from Allyen......who could see that coming?

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Not sure why not running with Maddox and Pedulla down the stretch here instead of Murphy and Alleyne...

Murphy actually had a really good game actually

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Alleyne on the other hand

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Air balls and missing both FTs what the hell are we even doing

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Think it's safe to say that this team isn't as good as we all thought/hoped. I legit don't know if we go .500 in ACC play this year.

Winnable game that I'm literally going to blame on the coaches here. How many games are we going to let alleyne play with mediocre defense, and no rebounding hoisting up a million shots. I'm so fucking mad this time because we've seen this the last few games and there's an obvious answer sitting in the bench.

I agree. Alleyne is shooting 33% this season and has been even worse since we started playing real teams like Xavier. From airball to giving up a layup. Ugh.

That might be the nail in the coffin for our tournament chances unless we win the ACC Tournament. The ACC is absolute trash this year, we're looking at 3 bids, 4 at most.

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

over 4 minutes without a bucket until that Murphy layup.. not a strong finish

I'm sure Young doesn't want to torpedo Alleyne's confidence but dude doesn't have it right now and shouldn't be in the game.

I mean, he struggled a bunch last year as well. At a certain point, it's worth considering that he might just not have it consistently in ACC play

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

I'd say that's true for more than one of our guys... ::cough Murphy:: even though he played well tonight. Maddox has shown a lot of promise. Surprised he's not getting more minutes at this point.

We hit a wall with about 13:00 left. No depth to this team. Mutts and Keve can't go 40 minutes every game. It's just not sustainable.

they rotated N'Guessan in fairly often but he was not a threat.

really need to develop him and Ojiako into guys who could play an effective 10 minutes a game each instead of a handful of filler minutes

They should be rotating more guys in and developing, but CMY has been quite stubborn with his bench this year. He's not really using it at all. The only guys he's using are Pedulla, Maddox, and N'Guessan and they're really only playing breather minutes. Just short stints, usually before the media timeouts, to give a starter a quick break. They're hardly apart of the game action, especially N'Guessan. All 3 should be used more, especially on nights when the starters are struggling (coughAlleynecough).

And seeing Ojiako under CMY, he should just sit him down at the end of the season and tell him to transfer. It's clear we're not going to use him for whatever reason. We're doing a disservice to him just wasting his eligibility sitting on the bench, and he's taking a roster spot. It's beneficial to both sides to split. He could get a chance to play elsewhere and we can get a portal transfer we can use.

As for Haynes and Kidd, I have no idea. They never play at all. Maybe they're hurt. Maybe they redshirted and I missed it. Maybe we just busted on them (my choice if you made me pick). Those two are the ones that should be getting the filler minutes if needed and the others (Maddox, Pedulla, and N'Guessan) should be a larger part of the actual gameplan.

Alleyne hurt us a bunch but its beyond him tonight. The layoff hurt more. Slow at times, sloppy at times, just inconsistent play. Got outworked a lot. A real discouraging display

2-11! He shot the second most shots and made 2 fgs. Zero assists zero steals zero blocks

Mutts had 6 turnovers all off of errant passes.

That's 15 wasted possessions between those two right there.

Team is gassed. Can't get rebounds. Covid bit them.

Damn, this team is painful to watch.

Yeah we ain't making this tournament y'all

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Not making the NIT either at this rate. NC State recently lost by 14 at home to Wright State as a part of a 5 game losing streak. This is a bad team. And so are we.

Frustrating. Absolutely frustrating

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Couldn't watch cuz I'm in the hospital with the little one.

But, how bad do we suck?

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"Oh my God.... They're gonna take all our recruits... like WTF bro...."
~*squints eyes in disbelief*

positive+ this team has some skilled shooters and plays solid defense... can go on a tear and rack up a 10-0 run fairly often, and can dominate teams with equal or lesser athleticism

minus- this team goes scoreless against athletic defenses more often than they go on scoring sprees and can't stop NBA-level scorers with any consistency

since we play in the ACC we're going to face off against a bunch of teams that feature those kryptonite elements

Too many 2nd half turnovers and not enough reliable scoring weapons anyway. Aluma is worth watching at least.

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This will be a bad loss on our NCAA resume.

As bad as the ACC is, starting conference play 0-3 is probably removes us from the pool of teams that need to worry about their resume in March

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

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Actually it was not. Bracketology had us as a last 4 byes team. We were supposed to be good and our schedule was decent. And losses in November and December would be ok with a decent ACC performance. But losing to a team with a 200+ RPI is brutal.
Hokies could have gotten the benefit of the doubt from the committee before this fiasco.

I'm at the point where I'm hoping the tournament doesn't happen due to COVID and we don't have to get bad for missing it after being labeled a Final Four dark horse.

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"Oh my God.... They're gonna take all our recruits... like WTF bro...."
~*squints eyes in disbelief*

Im not sure how much of that was attributed to the long break, but that was about as bad of a loss that we could have taken. We do not appear to be anything close to the team a lot of us thought we were in the pre season. Mike Young and his staff have a lot of work to do.

I hate to be that guy but:
- we're regressing in year 3 (with a big regression coming next year barring some stud transfers)
- our 2 highest rated recruits of this staff's era transferred away
- our best player of the last 3 years was recruited by the previous staff
- our 2021 recruiting class was ranked only #90 in the country
- we have 3rd year players who don't appear to be developing at all (Ojiako can't get a minute and Alleyne is regressing - horrible this year against any half decent team)

I'm not saying all is lost and let's burn it to the ground, but I am saying there are a lot of familiar warning signs. Something to keep an eye out for. Staff has their work cut out for them to save face this year and put together a team with any tournament hopes for years 4 and 5.

More than anything we need true scorers. Guys who can get to the rim and create their own shot. Bigger guards would be a plus. That pretty offense and great ball movement looks nice and all, but it's not getting it done. Plus our shooters will be more open if we have threats to drive and score.

Final thought for tonight itself: NC State outworked us tonight. I can stand losing, but I can't stand being outworked. Not the first time this year either, this team seems "too soft" among other issues.

There were some, not many, that said we won't notice Radford's absence and oh boy, no one has ever been more wrong about something.

Fire Whit.

Bede too

Man. That was depressing to watch. I hate to say it but like we have ONE good/great player in Aluma and then....?

Mutts has had a stretch here over many games where he looks to be a liability out there. His careless turnovers and missed layups are costing us dearly. Who else in the starting 5 do you say to yourself is a top half ACC player?

Not sure where the answers are... if Maddox and Pedulla are the direction we go well then we are really searching.

Yikes gentlemen...

You think this year is rough, check out next year's roster (by class next year, ignoring potential covid redshirts):

Nahiem Alleyne (senior) - seriously struggling in year 3
Hunter Cattoor (senior) - inconsistent in year 3
John Ojiako (senior) - still no real minutes in year 3 (even less than when he was an undeveloped freshman)
David N'Guessan (junior) - good potential
Darius Maddox (junior) - good shooter, solid potential
Lynn Kidd (junior) - no real minutes in year 2 in acc
Sean Pedulla (sophomore) - good potential
Jalen Haynes (sophomore) - no real minutes yet
Rodney Rice (freshman) - highly rated, might be able to contribute right away
MJ Collins (freshman) - not too highly rated, ?
Patrick Wessler (freshman) - not too highly rated, ?

Best case, we get a couple good transfers and are comparable to this year.

We just haven't recruited acc athletes for the most part. Need some serious adjustments from the staff moving forward.

Man, those commentators were about to nut themselves every time NC State scored

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

This. We already talked about Allyne offensive issues but his defense was abominable. Done watching.

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