Just started checking some of the Combine results. I'll take a gander at some more of the results later today and add them here.
Tre Turner dead last in the WR group in several of the events.
Vertical: 34th out of 34 WRs (13.5 inches behind 1st place)
Broad jump: 34th out of 34 WRs
3 Cone Shuttle: 13th out of 13 WRs
20 Yd Shuttle: 11th out of 13 WRs
40 Yd Dash: 20th out of 32 WRs
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Yeah, but what size gloves does he wear?
I'd like to see some numbers on the correlation between being a combine monster and a frontline NFL player.
Ouch. Combine that with so-so route running and go get a potential UDF.
Ridiculous speed at his size. I wonder what the official time will be.
Our project DL running a better 40 time than our best WR from the last few years is hilarious and depressing at the same time
Agree that it is bad on the WR group but he was a project because he was a freakish athlete that needed to be melded into a DE.
Even Faster.
so far only 5 players faster with DBs yet to run
Oh f*ck you ESPN
It said his school on the daggone screen but they still couldn't get it right.
EDIT:
And as ESPN has updated this to correctly identify Barno as a Hokie, so shall I update my own post to indicate that it is now correct!
ESPN has done this so much that I think there has to be someone doing it intentionally.
Based on their shows it's not like they actually understand sports and that there lots of teams out there.
Just checked and it's been corrected at least, but c'mon man!
Tweeted at him he didn't acknowledge it but it got fixed a few minutes later.
TBH I am surprised they mentioned it at all. Sportscenter covering the combine was jacking off some dude from UGA because he ran a 4.7 or something as a DE. Didn't even mention Barno demolishing that.
Are you talking about Jordan Davis, the 345 pound nose tackle that ran a 4.78? I honestly think that's just as impressive as Barno's time. Davis was 0.4 sec slower and outweighs Barno by over 100 pounds.
They mentioned him as well but also his teammate who's name escapes me.
Travon Walker ran a 4.51 at 6-5 272, so that is also really impressive.
I think the primary reason all the UGA guys got mentioned was the sheer number of them that had impressive numbers. Jordan Davis obviously had a unicorn-type combine, but their whole crew really showed out.
Yeah they were just talking about historic numbers being thrown up on the board so expected Barno to at least get a mention.
I wouldn't put a ton of stock in the 40 times this year relative to other years. There's over 25 guys (and counting) who ran sub-4.40 this weekend. There were 12 in 2020, 12 in 2019, 12 in 2018, only 7 in 2017, and 9 in 2016. They 100% juiced the clock this year.
Unfortunately this makes Tre Turner's weekend even worse, his mid-4.4 time seemed impressive when he ran it and was the only thing he wasn't abysmal at but in this context even that was mediocre.
Underwear Olympics, sure; but performing like that is how a player makes some money (and a name) for themselves.
Looks like Tre took off of playing and preparing for football a little longer than he should have, but some pretty good NFL players didn't have their greatest performances at the Combine, and some rather pathetic players have shined at the Combine. But going to the Combine completely unprepared doesn't send a very good sign to the NFL teams watching you. I mean, if you're not going to take the Combine seriously, in an effort to enhance your draft status, you'd be better off staying home.
As for Barno, I'm surprised he is classified as a DL, cause I really don't think he projects as a traditional DE in the NFL. He's more of an OLB, I would think, who could occasionally line up as a DE, but I couldn't see him as a full time DE. Regardless, kudos to him, since it looks like he took advantage of his time to prepare for the Combine and enhance his draft status. Maybe Tre should have prepared for the Combine with Barno.
he was hurt
So what idiot advised him to workout? Seriously.
To clarify, he was hurt at the end of the season. Not saying he was hurt at the combine.
Based on those numbers I would prefer he was hurt at the combine.
Sure I get ya, just wanted to clarify my comment
If you follow these players on social media, you'll know they've been training and preparing for this day. So to suggest Tre wasn't is insulting and misinformed.
To your other point, Tre has plenty of film to show he's a Day 2 or 3 steal.
As much as I want to believe you're right, I don't think there's much of a chance at all he's a day 2 pick with a combination of such relatively poor athletic testing numbers.
He would have to have a monster campus day.
His tape doesn't look like Isiah Ford's tape, you didnt throw 50/50 balls to Ford, they were 100/0 cause he caught them all. His shuttle was slower than Ford's, both of his jumps weren't as good as Ford's.
And IIRC Ford's athleticism was deemed pretty pedestrian so that's why he fell in the draft...really doesn't look good for Tre here lol
Yeah that's the thing with Tre's tape. Inconsistency. Ford had strong, consistent production his entire career. With Tre, he showed up big at times, and then was completely MIA for long stretches. Making a few big plays here and there isn't a strong body of work, and combined with the showing at the combine, doesn't exactly look great for the draft.
Now the caveat to all of this is that Ford got much better coaching IMO most of his career than Tre really got. Ford and Phillips were already really polished coming into Fu's offense.
Tre is an undrafted free agent. Other than being small, slow and weak for an NFL WR, he's also had injury problems. He will not be drafted, unfortunately.
Tre was doing workouts and camps with Randy Moss so I'm pretty sure he was preparing
Saw Waller ran a 4.68. Not good for a corner.
Tied with... Matt Araiza, P, San Diego State... yeesh
Too bad for him...4.68 is simply not draftable at CB.
Maybe he runs much better at ProDay, but I think when you put on the Miami 2021 tape, you see that this probably isn't an aberration.
I know this horse has been beaten beyond death already but it's a tremendous indictment of the S&C Program under Fuente that our most draftable skill position players both were near the bottom of their position group at the Combine.
Just total lack of development, there's no other way of putting it. Then you have a guy like Barno who is just an athletic specimen and would be drafted insanely high if he had the body of work/tape, but very raw technique and was basically MIA this whole year after the UNC game.
Looks like Jermaine Waller ran a 4.68 40, which puts him ... dead last among CBs.
That's a full 0.11 seconds slower than the guy just ahead of him.
edit: glug glug, I was too slow
You have some company in the slow lane today
Did anyone catch the 6'4"(!!!!) 205lb corner that ran 4.26 (4th fastest 40 ever for any position)
Kid made himself some money today
just looked over the results from this weekend. Was Lecitus Smith the only rep from VT that participated in the bench?
Something something S&C under FU something something
A general comment: many players put up lower than expected scores in non-40 testing this year due to the altered (bad) format of the combine. I believe most if not all position groups did all of their on-field testing and positional drills in one day, which has not been the case in the past. Many skipped some tests because of fatigue from doing the drills and those that did test put up poor numbers (this does not include the 40, that is always first). I'm not saying that is the only reason Tre didn't test well, but it could have been a factor. Hopefully he gets some better scores at the pro day because that level of athleticism leaves WRs undrafted unless they are route-running masters.
I was watching some of Liberty's pro day during the Malik Willis throwing events and was surprised to see Tre Turner there lol. I guess he was running some routes too but I didn't catch that part. I just saw him in the highlight reel celerating one of the throws, and sure enough I saw on twitter where Tre was saying thanks to LU and Freeze for hosting him. I didn't know people could participate at other schools' pro days, but it was interesting.
I believe he's good friends with Willis. Also for a player in his position, i'd rather have eyeballs onme catching throws from a possible top 10 pick than from (checks notes), whoever was throwing for us yesterday, at least from an exposure standpoint.
Yeah that makes sense. It looks like the QB at VT's pro day was Juwan Carter from Norfolk State.
Reason #242514161 That fuente is not coaching here any longer. He thought Malik Willis was an "athlete" not a QB and thus lost his commitment. At a school like VT- evaluation is critical, as we don't pick and choose 4 and 5 star players. You need to get these right and not wrong.
All for counting the reasons Fuente ended up being terrible, but I believe Bud wanted him on defense and then Auburn offered him a QB tryout so he de committed to go there.
Per Andy Bitter, Willis was going to get a shot at QB.
Can't link, because The Athletic is a pay site, but that is from Bitter's Notes on the VT Pro Day.