Is this the move to break away from the NCAA?
Is this report even true? The article says that some in attendance thought they "heard it wrong."
But apparently Sankey met with members of the D1 council a few weeks ago . This is a thirdhand report, though.
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Sankey can downsize his mouth on my nutsack
LOL
Jon Skipper said the same thing on the Dan Lebatard show a few weeks ago, so it's not exactly an original idea.
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Eh. Basketball is the sport where a small school can really truly compete year in and year out with the blue bloods.
UNC, Duke, and Kansas aren't a step above Gonzaga and Villanova and, historically, UConn, UCLA, and Arizona.
I think separating football is relatively easy but separating basketball would just create a scenario where you have separate equal leagues like the ABA/NBA and AFL/NFL used to be. Reconsolidation wouldn't take long.
I mean, I agree, but the conferences want their bag.
There is so much money around the tournament as it is. All they have to do is host their own BB invitational at the end of the year and it would be recognized as the National Championship.
I agree and honestly if they want to do it then go ahead.
Take out the BIG 10 and SEC and it would barely change anything this year. They both were overrated as shit this tournament, it's like they weren't even there
bad take.
18 of the 68 teams were (or will be) SEC or B1G (e.g. incl Texas, UCLA, USC) and 4 of 16 in the Sweet 16
Really just wanted to throw shade at them for sucking in the last tournament. But also I personally would not care at all to see them go (except maybe Michigan State).
The ACC, B12, Big East, PAC/WCC/MW, and even A10 are all more interesting to me personally.
(Also sidenote, it's crazy how different Maryland is in the B10 and how much less people give a shit about them now. They used to have a great rivalry with Duke and that is DEAD, maybe the most overlooked casualty of conference realignment. Lost solid rivalries with us and UVA as well.)
From your example, I can't tell who you're calling "small". Are UNC, Duke & Kansas small or large? Is Villanova small or large? And are they in the same category with Gonzaga or with UConn, UCLA and Arizona?
By my definition of "small", very few small schools can truly compete year in and year out with "big" schools actually.
And frankly, 68 teams is already way too many IMO.
My bad. I was mostly contrasting the P5 schools against Gonzaga and Villanova but I see that I mixed the message there.
Fair enough. But if you consider Villanova a "small" school (I don't personally), do you consider UConn big or small?
Honesty, I think Gonzaga is the only "small" school which currently has had sustained success. Plus if Mark Few were to leave, I think it could be short-lived and Gonzaga could revert to Butler levels of success post-2011.
Villanova and Gonzaga have similar enrollments and UConn has an enrollment comparable to Tech
Yeah I think of the Zags and Villanova as small schools. About 5k and 7k undergrads, respectively. UConn is at about 19k, I've thought of them as large. Didn't know the enrollments until I just looked it up. They aren't UCF (70k) by any stretch.
I guess the line I've always drawn is between P5 and G5 football, with both Gonzaga and Villanova not even having a football team as far as I know. Maybe down at one of the 'multiple A' levels. So that's what I was thinking when I made the list. Big state schools and historic powers on one side, other schools on the other side.
I mention the Zags and Nova because they're currently good, but historically Georgetown, and Marquette have won tournaments and have been semi-relevant in the last decade or two. Then of course there are the cinderellas like George Mason.
All of this is wrapped into the thought that small schools (maybe with little funding) can be competitive with the 'big' schools (with a lot of funding), so it is probably a good thing overall that they are all in a tournament together.
Nova has an FCS team (pretty good one at that). The Zags have no football
That would fucking suck
*this
Keep in mind Skipper was the architect behind the last media deals for the conferences. I think he has more insight than he's letting on. 4-16 team conferences makes a ton of sense. You get regional rivals protected with the opportunity to play interesting matchups. The bowl system/playoff he suggested would a mega media deal...and would happen outside of the NCAA so they keep all the cash.
Seriously, that 32 bowl idea is pretty radical. Game this out. 9 game conference slate, that seeds you for the bowls. No more arguments about who is in and who is out. Everyone plays. The first round gets you to 16 teams. That's a 10 game season. Second round to 8, that's an 11 game season. Third round gets you to 4, that's a 12 game season, etc. Most teams end up playing fewer games. That eliminates the complaints about the wear and tear on the athletes, and the disruption of academics.
Could it keep people's interest longer than the current playoff? Maybe. Even if your team lost, you'd be interested to know how deep their opponent could get. It also allows matchups that might never happen. Forget out of conference games. Interesting cross country matchups would happen across regions in the first round of the bowls.
I dont feel like his bowl game idea is THAT radical. It always feels a bit wrong to me to not get those extra practices for all teams. Also having different records without a true playoff is weird too. Sure the winner and #2 can play in 1 more game than other teams but that's 3 more games if you don't have 6 wins.
I always thought that championship weekd should have the entire conference play in a division crossover game, so 1sv1s, 2sv2s and so forth.
Either more games is worse for thr athletes and now one should play them or everyone should play, because more football is better for the fans.
And to the using bowls before playoffs has been floated around for some time.
32 bowls means the first round gets you to 32 teams (not 16), the second round to 16, the third round to 8, the fourth round to 4, etc
it's even closer to a traditional season since everyone is guaranteed 10 games and half of all teams are guaranteed 11.
Could also hold first round of games at higher seeded teams home field. Then next round have the 32 bowls. The winners from the first round continue playing each other in the tournament and the losers play a consolation game. Gives everyone at least 11 games with the top seeded teams getting an additional home game.
Smaller tourney ... sure those 4 playing games are annoying and sucks for filling out brackets ... ::::reads article :::: ..... what the #+$%@&#_×><÷!%&! Cinderella teams are the only reason to watch after your team gets knocked out. If VT can't win it then go St Louis Bilkins!
What a stupid idea.
Take the coolest thing about college basketball and break it. Just because.
With super conferences and huge rights contracts comes a lot of ways to maximize NIL deals. The not-NCAA will be the NBA light, with pay for play NBA try-outs every year. The teams with-out mega conference deals (which means deals to be on TV) will rather quickly be marginalized. You can be great, but only on a broadcast no one-watches, and only against second class competition. If you want to go big time, it goes through big TV networks, and those conferences they pay to be partners.
the thing i've seen bandied about is that pro leagues will just change age/eligiblity requirements and gut collegiate sports if the conferences/associations start becoming too competitive vs pro alternatives in terms of ratings, tv deals, etc. siphon collegiate talent away via elimination of the one-and-done rule and change to nfl eligibility -- entice best players to jump for a bag/professional play without the auspices of playing school
Sounds like a solution to the problem
thanks I hate it
Maybe the SEC should have more than....
*checks notes*
0 National Championships over the last 10 years before they start demanding the tournament to change.
(and yes, Kentucky is their last title, in 2012... before then it was Florida in 2006 and 2007, and then it was Kentucky in 1998)