Football Predictions: Over/Under 5.5 Wins

Vegas says 5.5 wins for the Hokies this year. Make your predictions! Do we finish above or below 5.5 wins for the season?

2022 VIRGINIA TECH HOKIES SCHEDULE
Fri., Sept. 2 - at Old Dominion
Sat., Sept. 10 - vs. Boston College
Sat., Sept. 17 - vs. Wofford
Thu., Sept. 22 - vs. West Virginia
Sat., Oct. 1 - at UNC
Sat., Oct. 8 - at Pittsburgh
Sat., Oct. 15 - vs. Miami-Florida
Thu., Oct. 27 - at NC State
Sat., Nov. 5 - vs. Georgia Tech
Sat., Nov. 12 - at Duke
Sat., Nov. 19 - at Liberty
Sat., Nov. 26 - vs. Virginia

Relevant Lines:

  • -150 Over 5.5 wins
  • +120 Under 5.5 wins
  • +5000 to win the ACC
  • +20000 to win the Natty

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Please Lord get to 6 , with uva on w column!

I'm going over. I think we get 6, 7 with some luck. Blind homer optimism says we can make 9!

2022 VIRGINIA TECH HOKIES SCHEDULE
Fri., Sept. 2 - at Old Dominion - W
Sat., Sept. 10 - vs. Boston College -
Sat., Sept. 17 - vs. Wofford - W
Thu., Sept. 22 - vs. West Virginia
Sat., Oct. 1 - at UNC
Sat., Oct. 8 - at Pittsburgh
Sat., Oct. 15 - vs. Miami-Florida
Thu., Oct. 27 - at NC State
Sat., Nov. 5 - vs. Georgia Tech - W
Sat., Nov. 12 - at Duke - W
Sat., Nov. 19 - at Liberty - W
Sat., Nov. 26 - vs. Virginia

Here's the five we should win bolded above. Any of these losses would be viewed as a bad result barring some major improvement in GT or Duke (unlikely).

So really in terms of finding the over you are weighing our chances of getting at least one more win out of BC, WVU, UNC, Pitt, Miami, NC State, and LOLUVA.

BC - disadvantage at QB (based on what we know right now, could turn out to be the opposite), dominated last year. Probably one of the hardest to assess because of the very strange moment in which we collided with them last year given Fuente's situation and the state of that team.

WVU - Rivalry game. While we are going to have some growing pains with new scheme, so should the WVU offense unless JT is able to channel his past experience with Harrell into a fast-tracked implementation of the Air Raid. This one is also difficult to assess because the Air Raid can have a "triple-option" type uniqueness to it in terms of results not necessarily making sense based on your defensive acumen against more normal offenses.

UNC - More talented team than us at just about every spot. On-field mojo has swung our way in spite of this. Could be a continuation of the last few years, could be the year the talent deficit is too much to overcome. Hard one to gauge until we see the new offense under Maye/Criswell and if the defense takes the step forward to align with the talent increase.

Pitt - Another one that is difficult to gauge. They lose their two best players in Pickett and Addison, coupled with some strange comments from Narduzzi that seem to be very negative toward the OC who gave him the best offense he will likely ever have, and seemed to be signaling a return to the more run oriented, mash it out offense that saw his program mired in mediocrity.

Miami - Are they bak? Another game where we will be a significant talent deficit. I am pretty confident this is a loss if TVD makes it to this game healthy.

NC State - Are they going to take their last chance to win an Atlantic title? History says no, but Devin Leary might be the best QB in the ACC. I am pretty confident this is a loss as well, but NC State has the kind of history that suggests this could be a major upset win for us/season ruining, devastating inexplicable loss for them.

LOLUVA - We won't be at a talent deficit for this one. We might be at a QB deficit though with Armstrong returning. Until proven otherwise by our QB play, they will be at a notable advantage at the most important position on the field. It didn't get them a win last season though... I never expect to lose to UVA so...

My Conclusion: I'm mentally prepared for a 5-7 type, true rebuilding season that will be frustrating at times. However, I believe we have a strong chance of hitting the over here. I'll plant my flag by taking the over and predicting 7-5. I hope I'm not being bullish enough and we manage 8-4 or 9-3.

I'm with you. I think this is a season of "win the winnable games and look reasonably sound, and maybe steal one win that we shouldn't." I'm on board for predicting 6 wins. Get to 7 and I'm very happy with the first year under Pry. It's a total gut job and rebuild. If he can win off the bat, I'm excited for the future.

This is exactly where I'm at:

  • Definite wins over ODU, Wofford, GT, Duke, Liberty
  • Definite losses to Miami and NC State (probably UNC too)
  • Coin flips: BC, WVU, Pitt UVA

We go .500 in our coin flip games, resulting in a 7-5 regular season.

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I'd move Pitt to "probably definite loss" and move UNC to coin flip. The reason why we usually beat UNC is lack of defensive discipline. The reason why we usually lose to Pitt is their defensive discipline. I don't see those changing.

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7 wins

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My heart wants to say over, my head and my gut say under. But i feel something about hokie football again and that's what counts

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Over. I think we have a good shot at 6-7 wins. If Wells can keep down the interceptions and the bug doesn't hit us, maybe a couple of surprises down the road as well. UNC, WVU, Pitt and a couple others are also coaching with significant coaching or player changes. They could be toss-ups.

I'm thinking under. Have a bad feeling that we are going to be a legitimately bad team this year to the point where I'm not sure it's justified to pencil any game in as a sure win. We have zero depth behind a roster that has some big holes already in the starting lineup.

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We don't even need to avoid "the injury bug" -- we pretty much need unprecedented injury luck. all it takes is two or three starters to miss two of three games each (doesn't even have to be the same game!) and we can get exposed pretty badly, and those kinds of short term injuries (tweaked muscle here, rolled ankle there, various health and safety protocols) happen to pretty much every team every season. i am dubious we can hit 6

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I'm honestly not sure I would confidently take the over if it was 4.5 this year for the reasons you state. Two injuries and we're in a world of trouble. And with a team as thin as we are, we're probably going to be leaning on our starters a lot, which is just going to exacerbate the injury problems over the course of the year.

Wofford we should beat.

ODU and Liberty are on the road. ODU has all summer to prep for us, and Liberty is late when we'll probably be feeling the brunt of our injury issues. Both will treat us like their Super Bowl. I genuinely wouldn't be shocked if we lose both, but I'll remain hopeful and say we go 1-1.

I do not see us beating Miami, UNC, NCSU, WVU, and Pitt. That means, in order to get to 5 wins you're talking about winning 3 against BC, GT, @Duke, and UVa. I'm not sure we're good enough to say any of those are a comfortable win, and going .500 only gets us to 4 wins.

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Just curious - why do you group Pitt in with UNC/NCSU/WVU? IMO they're much closer to BC than those schools.

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Because, quite frankly, even with Pitt being worse I don't think they've fallen enough for us to feel good about our chances.

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For some reason, Narduzzi often seems to have our number.

Fuck Pat Narduzzi

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Exactly.

And really, the only way to extinguish him is to beat him on the field of play. And maybe a little better than that, since he plays the "influence the refs" game pretty hard.

I think the memory of that Maryland bowl loss is really factoring into a lot of outlooks. That was certainly a massive low point, but that team was depleted with opt outs, transfers, and injuries after a tumultuous season, head coach getting canned, a bowl no one really cared about, and a staff with one foot out the door. We are thin at a few spots in regards to depth, but I don't think we are nearly as bad as that Maryland game made us look. With a totally incompetent staff last year, we almost beat ND, were a lucky Hail Mary away from beating Cuse, had the WVU game but offensive playcalling cost us, and could have beat BC if not for BB going out. Plus I factor in the progression I think a lot of players will see from better coaching and buy in to the conditioning program. And inevitably some new faces that step up. I don't think we go undefeated by any means, but I also think this team may surprise this year.

Put it this way, we've had teams over the past 5 4 years with far more talent than this year's squad lose to Old Dominion, Liberty, Kentucky, Duke, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Boston College x3, Virginia, and barely held on to beat Furman by 7. At this point, I think its a mistake to believe that any game on our schedule is a sure thing.

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I have faith that this staff is superior to the previous, so while we will lose some games, I don't think we should become normalized to the head scratching losses and poor performance from the Fu era. I also think that if we were in the Big Ten or SEC this season, I would probably agree our outlook would be less positive and more of a rebuilding year. But in the ACC, especially the Coastal, the talent level and coaching prowess from team to team just isn't as stacked. You can make up a lot of ground quickly in the ACC. It's the little things (coaching, player development, etc) that can turn a team from 6 wins to 9 or 10 in a hurry in this conference.

But we haven't had a team with a better coaching staff and team spirit...

I mean I see the lows here and good arguments but a few things that are keeping me from being this down on the team.

1) the shit that's come out about the disfunction of the previous staff - I think they had a large helping hand in some of the losses mentioned above and couple of those teams weren't garbage (Kentucky, at least one of those BC teams was probably okay) while some were horrible.

2) "Far" more talented is probably overstated. I can point to a few individuals and maybe Fu's first team that would fit the far category but we haven't exactly been skilled across the board in a hot minute.

3) To a post you made further up...we've also had all summer to prepare for ODU sure we're also installing a new staff and system but that should also make it a little harder to prepare for us.

That's all I came up with but I wish I read this before I dropped $300 on a 7 win season because its all valid.

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Believe me, I will be overjoyed if they prove me wrong and will absolutely own up to being too down on them this summer, but I just can't buy in to thinking that we have any game in the bag until they go out and show me that they deserve that kind of benefit of the doubt. Is that possibly unfair to Pry and the team? Maybe, but the last few years have wrecked my faith in Hokie football, and after I missed as badly as I did in being excited for our team under Fuente, that faith has to be earned going forward, and not blindly given.

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Is that possibly unfair to Pry and the team? Maybe, but the last few years have wrecked my faith in Hokie football, and after I missed as badly as I did in being excited for our team under Fuente, that faith has to be earned going forward, and not blindly given.

I agree with all of this. But somehow, I'm more optimistic than you are. Though, I admit, my faith in winning 6+ games is rooted more in the ACC being terrible than it is in us being any good

Onward and upward

While your are not wrong, the previous regime got far less out of their talent than I believe the current staff is capable of, and we were not a well-coached during the games under He Who Should Not Be Named. We're going to take some lumps this year, but I expect to see a lot come together towards the end of the season and really see things start clicking on the field and on the sideline.

Gimme the over.

I don't know man... I forgot that game even happened (not even kidding).

I get the logic that there's no noticable talent drop off from last year, and that given (hopefully) an improvement in the coaching department, we should see a better record.

However, the fallacy with this thought process is that we fail to recognize the upgrades that other teams have made. Miami has hired a proven coach and has a loaded roster. Say what you will about Mack, but his roster is also loaded, with another year of experience. NCst is returning 82% of their production (8th in the nation) compared to VT's 64% (69th in the nation... NICE). WVU has a new proven OC and a 5-star QB.

I think we'll see an improvement in our record. But not by a lot.

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WVU has a new proven OC and a 5-star QB

How did that actually happen?

And I know, I know "Graham Harrell" but we are talking about WVU

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ODU and Liberty are on the road.

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No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

I couldn't agree more... it's rather infuriating.

Warning- Filter lost.

"Look at this... This is just spectacular.... These people are losing their minds"

@ODU is fine, it's a 4-5 hour drive, plenty of players and staff grew up in Tidewater. Recruiting trip combined with the road trip etc etc. Plus we have the opportunity to establish Lane Stadium East

@Liberty makes no f'ing sense, they are 1 hour from Blacksburg and have a smaller stadium. Liberty's fanbase can basically fit in the visitor section of Lane Stadium

I think we win around 10 with losses to possibly Miami and UNC/NC State. I think our roster is going to surprise people along with our coaching staff. The coaches will put the best players on the field and push them to be their best unlike the last staff. Our players will also actually be hard, smart, and tough this year. Call me insane I am calling a 10 win season in Pry's first year, you heard it here first =)

FIRST DOWN, HOKIES!

This is the hot take was looking for. Hope you're right.

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LOL

I love the optimism.

I'm starting to buy in more and more. I could see 8-10 wins if things fall the right way. Honestly no one in the coastal really scares me. It's mostly a bunch of average teams and teams with more blue chip talent (Miami and UNC) that can't put it all together. We get Miami at home this year, and I'm hoping we put a beat down on UNC in Chapel Hill for a statement win. I really think the new staff has something to prove this year and I think the team has totally bought in and is motivated. I'm starting to believe we could surprise some folks.

We're never going to lose again.

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Braxton Burmeister, Ryan Willis, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

But isn't the formula a front-line of studs and tough natives? I so want to buy into never losing again, just not sure we have the right formula in place... yet.

Hopefully we will be a lot tougher than the past several years though, between coaching mindset and new/better S&C program.

THERE WE GO

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Braxton Burmeister, Ryan Willis, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

Do we get sticks after the game?

Kind of like the free bacon for missing two free throws in the second half of basketball games;

Free Nestle Drumstick for the student section if the defense shuts out an opponent.

10 plus wins?! cocaine is one he'll of a drug

Heard it here first?!?!

12-0...15-0

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

Each one of you has made great arguments as to why you predict the number of wins that you do. I find myself saying "that's a good point" on most of them. That said, I like the 12-0 prediction the best.

"Take care of the little things and the big things will come."

Hammer the over... yes the cupboard is bare but the schedule is very weak

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

2022 VIRGINIA TECH HOKIES SCHEDULE
Fri., Sept. 2 - at Old Dominion W
Sat., Sept. 10 - vs. Boston College L
Sat., Sept. 17 - vs. Wofford W
Thu., Sept. 22 - vs. West Virginia L
Sat., Oct. 1 - at UNC L
Sat., Oct. 8 - at Pittsburgh W
Sat., Oct. 15 - vs. Miami-Florida L
Thu., Oct. 27 - at NC State L
Sat., Nov. 5 - vs. Georgia Tech W
Sat., Nov. 12 - at Duke W
Sat., Nov. 19 - at Liberty W please for the love of everything holy
Sat., Nov. 26 - vs. Virginia W

I think Pitt regresses and hopefully Pry brings some hatred to that game, UNC will out talent us, WVU is a toss up but Daniels was a 5* so maybe he acts like it, Miami could actually be good if Cristobal reigns in the culture TVD looks good. 7-5 is the ceiling, could easily be 5-7 especially late in the season if things go against us.

I feel the same way about Pitt. They lost their two best players and best OC in recent history. I can see them beating us in an ugly game, but I don't see them coming close to winning the division (unless the whole division goes 4-4 this season and Pitt gets tie-break magic).

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I'm hoping for chocolate chip, but content with oatmeal raisin. I'm going to be really bummed if I end up with store brand pecan sandies.

This is tough to call but I'm taking the over for 2 reasons. The ACC is absolute garbage and we are almost guaranteed to win at least one or two games we shouldn't. (Similarly, we're just about guaranteed to lose one we shouldnt) Secondly, based on things we've heard this off season, particularly around the S&C program, I'm fairly confident these coaches will be able to get a lot more out of these same players as the last coaches.

Onward and upward

I'd take that over hard, but of course Virginia won't let you bet Virginia teams if you're in Virginia..... BOOOO.

These pretzels are making me thirsty.

Dumbest rule ever.... I get it for the reasons the give (players and/or coaches betting/fixing their own games), but I mean, c'mon man lol... It just forces to bet online through offshore companies/accounts. But they are leaving so many (tax) dollars at the door.

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

Definitely over, 8-4, book it.

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I'm going over. I know we won't be great, and I can live with a losing record as Pry is trying to get the ship righted and the roster fixed, but we got to 6 wins last year with a QB that could not throw with the injuries, an OC that was a total buffoon, a S&C coach that clearly wasn't getting the job done and a head coach that seemed to have checked out. With a weak schedule I think we can hopefully get to 6+ wins.

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The Return of the Thursday Night Football in Lane gives us the win over WVU and the OVER!!

Agreed. I'm not impressed at all with WVU and the hype they are getting. We had them beat in Morgantown last year if it wasn't for Corn. Lane will be absolutely electric.

Over.

Tyler Bowen (from Kaleb Smith podcast):

We have the talent in this room right now to accomplish our goals.

Coaching and S&C cost us 4 games last year. Both are upgrades. Talent is approx the same. Depth is still a concern, but coaching/S&C upgrade should overcome that.

8 wins is doable
10 wins is absolutely possible

Could we faceplant at 4-8? I don't think so. 6-6 should be the floor.

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10 regular season wins would be a huge accomplishment. That would be our best regular season since 2011. I can see 10 wins include post season, but 10 regular season wins sounds like a big lift.

Hope I'm wrong.

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Goals could be progress, attitude, not getting blown out etc. I doubt any coach walked in this facility and thought this is a 10 win team and damn sure aren't going into their position meetings and telling players they're a 6 win team. 8 wins would be a god send this season unless the entire ACC crumbles

Talent is approx the same.

I keep seeing this general take around the internet and i dont know how or why people come to this conclusion. Outside of QB, is there any reason to believe that more than 1-2 position groups didn't get appreciably worse after transfers/draft entrees?

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

For those of us who are too busy drinking the kool-aid, can you point out which position groups you think got worse? Who left, who's likely replacing them?

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I'll expound tomorrow when I'm WFH but WR, DL, OL are probably all worse. RB is fine, about the same or better. Secondary and LB are about the same but questions about new scheme fit for some of our more talented players (Dax, Conner) at least makes me think we'll see a drop off there. A healthy James Mitchell would be a boon for the TE room in this offense, but he's gone. QB got better (and probably much so). New kicker means question marks.

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I'd agree on all of these and add corner potentially as well.

However, I think there are arguments to be made that the WR room could be deeper this year, and more productive overall with the expectation that we will have a better passing attack this season (a low floor from last season). Same with the TE room.

OL starting 5 may be a strong group, but the depth there is very worrisome barring, once again, some unknown young person who ends up being ahead of schedule. I think the coaching will be better this year, but they won't have had that coaching for very long at this point.

OL/DL both have chances to have boosts from the better S&C, along with really any position group. Again though, until proven otherwise, I agree with most of the groups you've listed. There's simply too many unknowns at this point to confidently assert we will be better at those positions. I think how ready the young Ends are could make a big difference on the DL. Do we see a huge step forward from guys like Cole Nelson and Stretch Carroll?

There's simply too many unknowns at this point to confidently assert we will be better at those positions.

This is everything I feel about this season

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"appreciably worse" is probably harsh on my end. But "major question marks and I'll believe it's better this year when i see it on the field but boy oh boy do i have my doubts but also I'll never be happier to be wrong about those doubts" is probably not

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I do think that we lost a lot of pure talent from last year, but I'd counter by saying that last year I think we got less out of our talent than we could have. Would Tre Turner, Jordan Williams, Waller, and Barno be welcome additions to this team? Most definitely, but aside from Barno against UNC, none of them jumped off the screen as can't miss players last year. So I think it's reasonable to expect that we can get similar production out of less highly touted guys if scheme, S&C, and general attitude are all better this year.

While not exactly strengths from last year, our RB and LB rooms are basically the same, so they're at least not a drop off.

Tre would be a huge addition to this team. A healthy Waller would be too, but it's hard to say with all the injuries Waller had. 2019 Waller is a no-brainer, undisputed starter.

I agree they would be big additions. My point is more this:

Last year Tre had 675 receiving yards and 3 touchdowns, which is not world-beating. There were injuries, bonehead play calling, and sub par QB play all leading to that. If 2/3 of those are improved this year, is it reasonable to think Lofton, Jones, or Blue could put up the same numbers?

That's where I'm at. Our save for Waller, those listed above struggled with the old staff. Maybe that was coaching. Maybe that's S&C. We won't know now, they left.

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Between Tre and Tayvion we lost 109 total touches for 1345 all purpose yards and 8 TDs from the WR room. We need each of those players you mentioned plus kaleb smith to each take a massive step forward.

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I don't think it's crazy to think the top 4 receivers on a competent offense could account for that type of production. Do I think any of those 4 guys are as talented as Tre or Tayvion? No. But Tre and Tay statistically underperformed for reasons that we've beat to death. So if we can get average production out of the guys playing now it could even out. Same logic applies to different position groups. WR was just the easiest to quantify.

Don't get me wrong I think if we hit over on 5.5 it's probably in traditional fashion with a stolen win vs UVA. I just don't think our on-field production will be much worse than what we've had in recent years.

Maybe I'm overly pessimistic or burned out after the last four years but when we lose 4*s and all-conference honorable mention-type players (or better!) to the NFL or other P5 programs and backfill in those spots with true freshmen, walk ons, low-mid 3*s, and G5 transfers, it does not inspire confidence in me that the position group will be better than it was -- one offseason of new S&C programs and ostensibly better coaching staff notwithstanding

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IDK I'm trying this cautious optimism thing. Come find me after the ODU game and I could have swung in the complete opposite direction

We upgraded our S&C.

I'm high on Deege. I don't think people realize how different S&C is this year compared to 8 months ago. Imagine playing Penn St 2 years ago, and thinking, man, I wish we had a guy who could out muscle us like that on our team. Deege developed those guys, and he's doing it here, and there's already results the first 6 months on the job.

Imagine us not having a major injury every couple of games last year, how that could have effected our season. Or gasping for air on the final drive against ND. Or not muscling our way passed the goal line vs WVU. That's all S&C.

We've been a capable 6-6 team, sometimes ugly. But upgrading S&C gets us 8, might even get us 10 wins this season.

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You go, girl.

Maybe that gives me confidence that we win 6 this year. Maybe 7?

Wait... You're suggesting that a single off-season of improved S&C will result in a 2-4 win improvement?

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It's a game of inches, and also coaching.

I think it is more the new coaching and new attitude combined with corrected S&C.

I'll (sort of) buy the argument that better culture results in more wins, and S&C is a substantial driver of culture.

But, I still don't think culture can create a 4 game swing in single season for a team at our talent level. But, I truly hope I'm wrong.

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Maybe one or two, though. Ya never know.

I'll (sort of) buy the argument that better culture results in more wins

Look no further that Shane Beamer's first year at USCe. That team was supposed to win two games at best, and ended up going bowling. I think that one was completely the culture shift that he created as well.

I will admit that I didn't watch any SCar games except the Mayo bowl.

In 2021, vegas has SCar winning 3.5 games. IMO SCar had 4 obvious wins on their schedule over Eastern IL, ECU, Troy, and Vandy, then bested two programs who were in complete disarray (UF fired Mullen, and Auburn tried to fire their coach, but couldn't). So, while I recognize that Shane has done a great job there, I also think he benefited from some luck - I don't think anyone saw UF and Auburn falling apart.

Like I said in other posts - I can see us going bowling. I think we win 7 games. 8 wins is imaginable. I can't see 10 wins unless there are some sleepers on this roster. But, I hope you're right.

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First, I hope you are right and I believe you are right in regards to the upgrades in coaching.

I do think I would debate the talent is the same comment. I think the comment ignores the obvious O line attrition (Smith, LT & Hoff), turner & robinson (established players who didn't hit their ceiling but still produced), Blackshear, Waller (his pick 6 against ND and pick against WV were huge plays that I'm not sure anyone this year makes), Barno (anyone on this squad anywhere close to that talent?) etc.

I'm clearly leaving out some players, but at best some new guys step up and we are very thin. At worst, the new players aren't as good (especially early in the season) and we have to our smart teams (and get lucky) to win against superior talent.

I'm not arguing that the previous staff didn't get the max out of the talent (they didnt) or defending their recruiting. I'm just pointing out it's difficult to say our talent is the same with so many unknowns (and some known roster gaps - ex. O line depth, speed at WR, edge rushers who are difference makers)

My last point is I think this group is at a significant talent disadvantage relative to last year's team, so if Pry gets to the over that is a BIG positive for the program's future.

My prediction - 7-5 where we lose at least 1 very bad game and the fan base rolls over like end of days, but we steal 1-2 games we shouldn't win due to good coaching, young players stepping up in development and scheme.

OLine aside, because those three were pretty good, Blackshear was solid, was a very good safety valve out of the backfield, but he had 1000 total yards. Thomas barely got put in half the games and had 440 rushing. King played well in the Duke game and does well catching out of the backfield. With Holston and Black and a couple more of the backs there are a number of guys that have a good chance to replace his production.

Turner and Robinson hurt somewhat, but they were terrible at finding the spot in the zone and getting open. The addition of Blue is really going to help, if Smith, Lofton or Jones cam step up and make those downfield adjustments to get open then it's going to be a huge improvement.

Gallo and Deluliis (and Blumrick?) are going to have to learn to box out, but If they do then they will have big years.

Barno was wasted by our staff. We might not have anyone who is that athletic but we might replace his production fairly easily, he had like 6 tfl and 3.5 sacks last year.

Waller would have gone top 2 rounds if he could stay healthy. And i agree we don't have a guy like that a DB right now. But putting Dax in a position to make plays, getting more out of Tisdale, those things are going to make a difference in the defense. Pry has done this for a while. Price, Quinn and Jones have been around the block. Every says great things about Piroleau and I'm sure his SB ring is great for recruiting. Marve is billed by many as a wonder kid. He is Pry's Bud Foster, former play he brought with him.

Now Oline ... we aren't deep but we hired a top 5 oline coach. Healthy is the key but we have a fair amount of starts by the guys coming back. It might not be as good as the last two years (Vance did a pretty good job), but its going to be a solid unit.

And I believe we will have a significant upgrade at QB.

Go Hokies!!

I don't disagree with any of the assessment. I am just saying I think it's an injustice to say this year's group is just as talented as last - I personally believe it's significantly less.

Ex - o line has a great new coach, but he can't make O-line depth just appear with one off-season. His job will be to manage and develop this year and set the table for growth and improvement in the years to come through development and recruiting (which they are already doing with this class). This isn't an insult to the coach, but more of a reality of how we should judge success - over time and trajectory focused.

That said, the performance of the team as a whole could still improve for various reasons, most of all scheme and player development.

One of Mickey Andrew's last season at FSU he was asked a question about his team looking really fast, he responded with that it might be his fastest team yet and they could get out of position quicker than anyone.

But 1 note: 2021 Opening day Oline, 66 starts with 27 by Smith
2022 projected opening day Oline, 61 starts with 21 by Dzansi. The expirence is there.

Correct, the experience is there. This season will determine if the Talent is as well.

That said, I have every confidence in our new coach to get them up to speed. In another year or two, the OL will be a big asset.

Marve is billed by many as a wonder kid.

stick it in, stick it in, stick it in!

I think 6 to 8 wins is the most likely outcome for the season. Higher or lower are possible, but less likely. If the previous staff could Mr Magoo their way to 6 wins every (full) season then I think a competent staff can do at least the same even if the cupboard is a bit barer than before.

Over 7-5
Fri., Sept. 2 - at Old Dominion W
Sat., Sept. 10 - vs. Boston College L
Sat., Sept. 17 - vs. Wofford W
Thu., Sept. 22 - vs. West Virginia L
Sat., Oct. 1 - at UNC W
Sat., Oct. 8 - at Pittsburgh L
Sat., Oct. 15 - vs. Miami-Florida L
Thu., Oct. 27 - at NC State L
Sat., Nov. 5 - vs. Georgia Tech W
Sat., Nov. 12 - at Duke W
Sat., Nov. 19 - at Liberty W
Sat., Nov. 26 - vs. Virginia W

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

I think we can steal a win b/t BC and WVU, maybe both

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If we beat BC, it is because Pry and Marve are the real deal at drawing up a defensive game plan.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

At first I was gonna comment on how weird it would be to lose at home against BC but win on the road at UNC. Then I realized, we're in for one wild roller coaster of a season.

I'll take 7-5 with wins over UVA and UNC.

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UNC lost a lot of production and the OL still needs work. BC is on the rise with that QB who came back to give it to us last year.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

BC is replacing their entire starting OL. And their 1st round draft pick RT blew his ACL this summer. They are going to have a lot of kinks to work out early in the year.

I have the over. ODU, Wofford, Duke, GT, LU, and at least one of Pitt, WVU, UNC and LOLUVA. I really can't see us losing to UNC or LOLUVA.

W Fri., Sept. 2 - at Old Dominion - We should win this game even with all the moving/new parts

L Sat., Sept. 10 - vs. Boston College - I think Jurkovec and Flowers are too good a combo for us to take down

W Sat., Sept. 17 - vs. Wofford - Easy W

W Thu., Sept. 22 - vs. West Virginia - WVU is not that good, JT Daniels has never impressed me for how big a name he is, we almost beat them with incompetent coaching and QB play last year, and this will be a statement home game

L Sat., Oct. 1 - at UNC - I don't necessarily think UNC is any good but they do have talent, and on the road after a big win we will sleepwalk through it

L Sat., Oct. 8 - at Pittsburgh - Pitt is not going to win the Coastal again without Pickett and Addison, but they are better than us right now and get this game at home.

L Sat., Oct. 15 - vs. Miami-Florida - Tyler Van Dyke is the best QB we will play this year, he will pick this defense apart

L Thu., Oct. 27 - at NC State - The skid continues with another tough road game against a good QB and team - this schedule blows in terms of stacking all the hard games together

W Sat., Nov. 5 - vs. Georgia Tech - Finally an opponent we can beat, this GT game will be a breath of fresh air

W Sat., Nov. 12 - at Duke - After going through the October gauntlet this team should be prepared for some weaker teams in November

W Sat., Nov. 19 - at Liberty - Unless Liberty has another Malik Willis, they're not pulling out another W

W Sat., Nov. 26 - vs. Virginia - there's basically no reason UVA should lose this game with Armstrong at QB, but the same was true last year and now we're at home with better coaching.

At the end of the day I think 5.5 is a ridiculously low bar to clear but we won't clear it by a lot. The entire month of October is going to suck so bad, if we get a single win it will be huge. But September and November are very manageable and should get us to a bowl.

I think we get 6 wins at a minimum. 7 is also likely, but I think 8 is a stretch (yet possible).

Definite W's (5-0)
Fri., Sept. 2 - at Old Dominion
Sat., Sept. 17 - vs. Wofford
Sat., Nov. 5 - vs. Georgia Tech
Sat., Nov. 12 - at Duke (could be a trap)
Sat., Nov. 19 - at Liberty (no Malik Willis)

The Maybe W's (we can win ONE of these at least right?)
Sat., Sept. 10 - vs. Boston College (can't understimate Jurkovec)
Thu., Sept. 22 - vs. West Virginia (NGL don't know much, just basing this off of last time)
Sat., Oct. 8 - at Pittsburgh (I think we can take them. No Pickett or returning OC)
Sat., Nov. 26 - vs. Virginia (we can always take them)

The Probably L's (but hey there's always a chance)
Sat., Oct. 1 - at UNC (we've caught them off-guard before)
Sat., Oct. 15 - vs. Miami-Florida (prob a tough one depending on how their new coach starts off)
Thu., Oct. 27 - at NC State (the predicted ACC champs)

Are we going bowling this year? Yes. A crappy bowl, but a bowl. The Coastal is chaos, we all know this.

A more interesting O/U, to me, would be 6.5.

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I'm taking the under until they show me something different.


Fri., Sept. 2 - at Old Dominion

Sat., Sept. 10 - vs. Boston College
Sat., Sept. 17 - vs. Wofford
Thu., Sept. 22 - vs. West Virginia

Sat., Oct. 1 - at UNC
Sat., Oct. 8 - at Pittsburgh
Sat., Oct. 15 - vs. Miami-Florida
Thu., Oct. 27 - at NC State
Sat., Nov. 5 - vs. Georgia Tech
Sat., Nov. 12 - at Duke
Sat., Nov. 19 - at Liberty

Sat., Nov. 26 - vs. Virginia

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Over, it ain't even gonna be close! Oh did you mean in the first 6 games? Then maybe over.

I'm bullish on the over...the change in culture and hopefully better coaching will make a difference. Pencil me in for a 7-5, maybe 8-4 type of year. I just want them to beat WVU, Liberty and UVA, everything else is gravy.

This^^^ The culture change in the locker room has made a huge difference and that will show up on the field this fall. When you have no confidence in your coaches, they have no confidence in you and are incompetent on top of that, what kind of effort do you expect from the players? Some players were just going through the motions last year and it showed.

We are going to see more engagement, more excitement and more interaction between the coaches and players this year. That goes a long way and can turn the tables in a close game. There is so much going on behind the scenes that is night and day different from the previous staff, even down to little details and how support staff are treated.

It won't be easy. The coaches have pushed them hard in S&C so far. So much so that some players wanted to quit. (Well known ones at that) They were talked off the ledge and now are better for it. That'll show on the field this year too.

I'm an optimist this year. I'm taking the over. We are going to surprise some people. There will be growing pains, but I think we'll right this ship quicker than expected.

My pessimistic take: We have very little depth and a new system on both sides of the ball. 0 Chance we make it through September without an injury to one of our starters. If that injury is on the defensive side of the ball it will absolutely crush us. 4-8 (ODU, Wofford, Duke, Liberty wins)

My optimistic take: our schedule is soft and although teams should be good on paper, I don't think any game should be considered a no chance type game. We have proven coaches on this staff (I'm especially excited about Rudolph) and coaching wins those toss up games. 9-3 (UNC, Miami, NC State losses)

I'll go with 7-5. Over

I feel like that's been everyone's default bowl projection for us the last couple of years.

This season is divided into thirds. The first and last months are about as favorable as we could hope. That middle stretch is going to be tough. We need to hope for a strong start, and that these kids like the taste of winning for a change. Go 3-0, and that Thursday night against WVU is going to be POPPIN'. Win that one, and these kids might just start feeling themselves. I don't think Pry is going to have 2-3 games a year like Fu where we show up completely unprepared, or lose bc of inexcusable in game coaching mistakes. We somehow go 2-2 in that middle stretch, and it could be a pretty special first season. Now, if Silas gets injured at the beginning of the season? We could go 4-8. He is the most critical player on the roster by a couple miles. I truly believe it's one of those "we go as he goes" type of seasons.

"That's it guys. Let's get out of here. That cold drink's waitin' on us, let's go." - Mike Young after win no. 300.

Pound the over! I think 6-6 is very doable and 7-5 is not out of the realm of possibility. LET'S GO!!!

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Over
Looks like the consensus is we'll go somewhere between 0 - 12 and 12 - 0
I'll take 6 - 6 then go bowling

I seldom speak to loluva grads, but when I do, I tell them I want large fries.

Is +5000 ACC Champs a real line? And if so where do I place that bet?

Not in Virginia. Gobbles sadly

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I'm going 6-7 W's. I think this staff is going to be far superior to the last and will beat the programs we should expect to beat.
As far as the three biggies,...,WVU, UM, UVA, they're at home and maybe two at night πŸ™, and Pry is from back in the day. He remembers a hate from old times. He'll have them ready to fight.

I'm thinking over. I took over 6.5 at +135. 6.5 was the more common line from what I found I only found 5.5 at one place.

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I don't bet, and I would take the over at 5.5.

The over on 5.5 was -165 which means my $300 would have paid out roughly +$180 ($480 total) meaning taking that additional game adds an additional $225 in winnings which is pretty hard to pass up.

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I do not understand the pessimism around UNC. Fu went 5-1 against them. They are hands down the softest team in the ACC and we showed everyone that LAST YEAR when we bullied tf out of them and their NFL draft pick QB who was running for his life the entire game. This year they lose their starters on the O Line AND replace their QB and somehow they're a sure fire L?? I dont see it.

They're replacing Howell with another high 4* QB who looks to be very good. At some point the talent is going to matter and that Top 15 2020 class is now in their 3rd season, I agree they're softer than baby shit and culturally bankrupt but we have no idea what kind of team we are either.

To UNC:

I largely agree with everyone's take on 7-5, but I disagree with the take on the Miami @ VT game.

Simply put - Tyler Van Dyk hasn't played at Lane. This is our last home-and-home game with the Sisters of Sebastian. The game is (already) almost a sellout. Pry WILL have our defense prepared for this one, and we will do what we've historically done to the [[_]] - discombobulate, disorient, and deceive. We are only their second game away from Rent-A-Field Stadium, but when you don't have a true home isn't every game an away game?

We're their Game 6, coming after they play Texas A & M and UNC and 3 cupcakes. The 'Canes will be coming to Lane as a ranked 5-1 team (5-2 if they lose in their Bye week). Miami's D allowed 28.4 PPG last year. Seven of their 11 portal finds were defensive. Their D is a huge question mark, as is TVD's receiving corp (almost all new).

I just don't buy the "Miami is back". They have a ton of talent. They *may* have improved their coaching (but every new coach hire is golden at the outset). I think a full Lane (on a Saturday night, please?) makes a difference here. TVD gets rattled, our D gets at least one score, and our Offense keeps them off the field just enough. VT 28, Miami 24.

So VT 7-5, with Miami being the "upset win" when it happens...

And no surprise there, it's Wally Lancaster with an airball that looked gorgeous on its way to nowhere...
2/15/89, VT vs. South Carolina...

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I like the way you think. If there are two games VT can get up for, it's a ranked Miami at Lane when VT is underrated, and UVa at Lane or Lane North in any given year.

Unfortunately Miami doesn't have to be "bak" to beat us. Regardless of what they've done outside of our series, they've won 4 of the last 5 against us and barely lost the 5th. I'd love to be wrong but by all accounts they're simply a better team across the board and finally have a great QB on top of it all.

Yep, we don't beat Miami or Pitt anymore. Kinda puts us behind the 8 ball in the division. We used to simply not beat GT, but their asshole coach who ran it down our throats retired.

And this Pry has to change.

This is his job.

they've won 4 of the last 5 against us and barely lost the 5th

To be the man you gotta beat the man!

I've got us in fro wins vs

OD, BC, Wofford, UNC, GT, Duke, Liberty and UVa.

I don't think UNC is going to be as good as people think. Are they ever?
Also, fuck UVa - I can't pick them to win over us. Ever.

What would your ideal 7-5 be?

Win all the must-wins, so no embarrassments (ODU, Wofford, GT, Duke, Liberty) then beat the regional rivals in WVU and UVA? This seems like the the 7-5 that provokes the least anger/upset reactions within the fanbase.

Perhaps you'd trade an early season loss to WVU for a momentum building Miami upset?

Who wouldn't trade an early OOC game against WVU for a conference game against a potentially more hated foe in Miami. I hate Miami more than LOLUVA.

I hate Miami more than LOLUVA.

I do too, but in terms of expectation this season I think a loss to a potentially quite good (9-3 or better) Miami team wouldn't sting as bad as a loss to a potentially bad/mediocre WVU with a chance to reclaim the BDT.

Same with UVA. I personally have more ingrained hate toward Miami, but in terms of overall fanbase vibe heading into a bowl/Pry's first season I think starting the tenure off with a win against (an also rebuilding) UVA is more important.

I cannot imagine any P5 game creating a more negative, souring impact on Pry's first season than ending the regular season with a loss to UVA at home.

Me for one. I hate the 'Neers worse than them both tbh. In terms of which wins I want, it's UVA > WVU > Miami, but not because I hate UVA, but because UVA shouldn't even be negotiable

who knows when VT and the cousins will play again, I want that Black Diamond Trophy back for good

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I think we knock the wheels off the teams we should beat even if that means dropping Miami and WVU.

ODU, BC, Wofford, GT, Duke, Liberty, UVA. Those are the 7 weakest teams on the schedule we're very clearly in a rebuild right now so I'll take beating the teams we should beat as ideal....program momentum wise though....drop a game to Duke and BC and replace them with Miami and UNC wins Duke will look like a fluke and BC is an early in conference game people forget about by the end of the year.

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This was another option as well. Beating ODU, BC, Wofford, GT, Duke, Liberty, and UVA would represent a clear "we beat all the teams we should be beating" and clear raising of the floor of the program. To have a season with no inexplicable loss against a weaker/less talented team would be quite nice after the last few years.

That said, there's a decent chance BC is a slightly better team than WVU this year, so defaulting back to my original pick might end up being the accurate version of "beating all the bad teams."

That said, there's a decent chance BC is a slightly better team than WVU this year.

I covered this in my post below I do not think this will be the case. Jurkovec has no supporting cast.

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If our theoretical 7-5 record are the wins you listed, then I'd be happy with Pry in Year One.

Give me ODU, Wofford, Miami, GT, Duke, Liberty, and UVA, for the following reasons:

  • We will win the Coastal - Every team will finish 4-4. Balance will be restored to the universe, and VT can once again dominate the ACC as we adopt a new scheduling format.
  • After this season, we won't play Miami until 2024, so it would be nice to get that final win of the annual rivalry
  • Finishing the season winning 5 of the last 6 would lead to an exciting offseason with a lot of hype for the next season. The media will have us as 'a team to watch' and call us things like 'sneaky good,' 'secretly decent,' and 'prickly.' Those are fun offseasons.

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Wow! I want some of what he's having.
I love the optimism and will root for Coach Pry and the whole team all year as we are clearly establishing a return to the culture we HAD TO HAVE. I just think its gonna take time.
If this happens I'm buying you a drink!

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I mean, going 4-4 in the ACC isn't that ridiculous.

Winning the coastal with a 4-4 record is. But it would be amazing if there was a 7-way tie of 4-4 teams.

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Seem to be a lot of people high on BC this year. I know Jurcovic is good and traditionally they've had a big line but they're replacing everyone on the OL. I'm taking that game off of the coinflip games and putting that in the "should win category"

ideally we're 3-0 going into WVU, coinflip game there they have a semi-solid squad missing a few pieces to be "good".

UNC and Pitt are both currently a mystery I don't think UNC is going to be as good as anyone thinks (surprise) and Pitt lost some key pieces but Nardouchey still there gives them a wildcard edge I'll keep both of these as a coinflip.

Miami had a coaching change but added some serious pieces. I think they're a step ahead of us right now...HFA gives us a fighting chance if moral is still high. Coin flip.

I don't see a path to us beating NC St this year. They're not even great just a solid team.

GT, Duke, Liberty, UVA should win

By my count we've got 7 should win games with BC being the closest of all of those, even if we drop one I think we can pull out one between Miami, UNC, WVU, and Pitt. I think we're solidly a 7-5 team with this schedule but lots of new faces and a new scheme I won't be too surprised if things swing south.

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Always bet against mass OLine replacements.

I'm taking the over... barely. 6-6, with an outside shot at 7-5 if we can steal one against WVU or Miami.

Wins: ODU, Wofford, Liberty, GT, Duke
Losses: WVU, Miami, Pitt, UNC, NCSU
Toss-up: BC, UVA

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This comment is quite ironic given that Huepel didn't even name Hooker the starter; he only got snaps because Milton got injured.

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In Huepel's defense, he was probably prepping Hooker for a good season by getting him in his comfort zone.

3-year Proven Hooker Magic Formula:

  1. Think you will be the starter after talking to coach and previous season's results.
  2. Transfer QB with big question marks joins team.
  3. Lose yearly open QB competition.
  4. Poor start to season with starting QB.
  5. Injury gives opportunity.
  6. Save Season and be glad knowing you won't have to prove yourself again next season...

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Positives:
We feel like the new coaches will do a better job than the last coaches did.
For the 5th straight year... QBs might be better this year
Schedule is easy

Negatives:
Coach Pry will have to focus on getting the Defenses to what he feels it needs to be before handing over to inexperienced DC.
Abysmal recruiting from previous 4 years and transferring leaves minimal to work with except a plethora of RBs.
Installation of new offense and defense will take time for players and coaches to get used to.
Defensive (and offensive) players may need to move into new positions to fit new defensive scheme properly.
It's extremely rare for a new coach to take over a team and have a strong first season.
The over/under on improved position groups (RB, QB, OL, TE, WR, DL, LB, DB) from the previous season (Reminder, the Record was 6-7) is likely around 1.0.
Still no impact player on either side of the ball that you can rely on in big moments (maybe having one (X) on the sideline will change that).

There is nothing concrete in the positives other than our schedule, If we get to 0.500 this year, Pry and the staff should get ACC coach of the year since coaching hype is what most of you guys/girls are claiming as your reason for predicting a 6+ win season. Since that is such a big unknown, I wouldn't bet on this one.

I got anywhere between 5-8 wins. Getting to 7-5 or 8-4 is really gonna help for the 2024 recruiting class

Here they come
Here comes the bastards
I heard it from a confidant
Who heard it from a confidant
They're definitely on their way

I see a lot of 7s.

Count me in with that crowd.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

You think we'll go 7-7? That would take some next-level chaos. I'm here for it.

7-5 regular season, 4-4 in the ACC, while winning the division (which means there would be 7 way tie). Followed by 2 post season:

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Putting us at 7-7. Ultimately, recruits see that we are a good team (due to the QualityLosses^2), so they want to sign with us.

7 seasons later we win our first natty.

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the question for the year- will the new x's and o's be able to coach up/hide the old jimmies and joes??

Gotta get to 6, have the potential to get to 8*

*MAJOR caveat. If we have as many as 2 OL injuries, post Wofford it will be difficult to win ANY of the remaining games. It's not just a big gap between the top 6 and the rest, we really only have 6 guys that can go at all at that position

This is something I think a lot of people are either overlooking or have forgotten about. We're replacing three OL starters and our backups are basically all redshirt freshmen. Other than Jack Hollifield, the backups haven't seen much action. We've got 2 seniors, 4 sophomores, and a lot of freshman. No juniors at all (big thanks to our previous coaching staff for running out Hudson and Nester /s). A lot of the freshman are beefed up and could play, but that's not really something you want to rely on, even with a great coach like Rudolph. We've got a great base for a monster offensive line in a season or two, but this year there might be some pain especially if we suffer injuries like you said.

It's really hard for me to put an expected number of wins this year but I'll try. What I want to see the most this year is growth and development: are we better at the end of the game than how we started? And are we better at the end of the season than the start? If the answer is "yes" to both of those then I'll be happy, but it's hard to equate that to an expected number of wins. I'm just tired of seeing VT teams unable to close in the fourth and limping across the finish line at the end of the season.

So I guess I'll buy at 6 wins: ODU, Wofford, LOLUVA, WVU, Libertybiberty, and one ACC team. If we can do that, make a bowl, show clear signs of growth/development, and snag a top 25 recruiting class I will feel good about the future of VT football. Anything over and above is just icing on the cake.

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I'll buy at 6 wins: ODU, Wofford, LOLUVA, WVU, Libertybiberty, and one ACC team.

To be the man you gotta beat the man!

He meant to say "ACC caliber team"

though, TBF, "ACC caliber", these days, is about on par with UVA

Onward and upward

TBF this is not the place TBF about UVA/s

What a savings

And there's a chance that things'll get weird
Yeah, that's a possibility

We never have TBF to uva here! They are the suckiest bunch of sucks that have ever sucked on their side of sucksville.

I am not sure what to do with my hands now

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They are the suckiest bunch of sucks that have ever sucked on their side of sucksville.

Oh, rarely had the words poured from HomeBrew's penny pencil with such feverish fluidity.

To be the man you gotta beat the man!

With improved OL depth and no major injuries:

Fri., Sept. 2 - at Old Dominion
Sat., Sept. 10 - vs. Boston College
Sat., Sept. 17 - vs. Wofford
Thu., Sept. 22 - vs. West Virginia
Sat., Oct. 1 - at UNC
Sat., Oct. 8 - at Pittsburgh
Sat., Oct. 15 - vs. Miami-Florida
Thu., Oct. 27 - at NC State
Sat., Nov. 5 - vs. Georgia Tech
Sat., Nov. 12 - at Duke
Sat., Nov. 19 - at Liberty
Sat., Nov. 26 - vs. Virginia

Why do You think we lose at home to GT? Just curious, not saying it can't happen lol

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Right? I'd give us a better shot at home vs GiT than on the road vs UNC and Pitt

Because they always play someone really well and I'm just guessing that it will be us. Plus it's later in the season and they will have been tested a lot with a tough schedule, and we will likely not be 100% healthy coming off two big games against physical opponents.

I think we get UNC (soft) and Pitt (Pry owned them with every non Matt Canada offense). Lose to Miami then a very close one to NC State that could go either way. I think coming back home to play GT is trap game, knowing the schedule gets much easier after that.

Fri., Sept. 2 - at Old Dominion
Sat., Sept. 10 - vs. Boston College
Sat., Sept. 17 - vs. Wofford

Thu., Sept. 22 - vs. West Virginia
Sat., Oct. 1 - at UNC
Sat., Oct. 8 - at Pittsburgh
Sat., Oct. 15 - vs. Miami-Florida
Thu., Oct. 27 - at NC State
Sat., Nov. 5 - vs. Georgia Tech
Sat., Nov. 12 - at Duke
Sat., Nov. 19 - at Liberty
Sat., Nov. 26 - vs. Virginia

I'm going 8-4. I see JT Daniels at WVU bringing them the win late as we still try and figure some stuff out.

I we go 1-1 with UNC and Pitt. I picked UNC but could just as easily be Pitt.

If Van Dyke and Miami are playing well a loss there, another one to a pre-season fav in NC State with O'Leary (or whatever their QB's name is).

And I really just can see us losing any of the other games. UVA may be the toughest but really the only player the have is Armstrong and without and OL he's gonna have a long season. He's a talented QB but just doesn't have the supporting cast around him to make UVA a real threat.

If you don't want to recruit clowns, don't run a clown show.

"I want to punch people from UVA right in the neck." - Colin Cowherd

They're gonna be tough but WVU UNC and Pitt are def the games I want to win most this year (besides UVA obviously). Anything less than 3-0 in those, while understandable with the roster, would be unsatisfying.

If we win a single game the month of October I'll be shocked, the bookends of the seasons are very winnable however

I think that's where I'm at. 8-4, (4-0 + 0-4 + 4-0). I'd be generally ok with that, but I know damn well I'll have my hopes sky high again if we start 4-0. I'm just thankful I care again.

That's gonna be a tough stretch. I hope we get at least one out of it.

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Prepare to be shocked!

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