Question that came up in the F Matt Ryan thread, and it was said it deserves it own topic, so let's pull that right on out and double down on it on the week of Christmas cheer.
Who are the 4 most hated people from your VT fandom? The 4 people you secretly take joy in watching fail over their career. And maybe it isn't so secret, who cares. This is the VT Player Hater's Ball. Let's get it started!
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I'll get it started
1 - Matt Ryan. Fuck Matt Ryan
2 - Peter Warrick, the mfer shouldn't have even been playing.
3 - The Offensive Coordinator position in general. No single job has caused us more stress and grief over the span of 20 years.
4 - John Swofford - oh, yes we got into the ACC, but everything that he did since then put us and the entire conference on a path to bullshit.
A leg for the Offensive Coordinator entry alone. Well said.
I was going to say Ricky Bustle would like a word, but he's juuuuuuust outside of that 20 year window. He's also the only (I think) coordinator that has been hired away from VT in that 20 year window.
Pat Narduzzi
WVU and all that is associated with that university
Tyler Hansborough
Brad Cornelsen
Some recency bias, I'd throw in Matt Ryan, but watching his NFL career do things has sort of taken the pain away.
Kellen Moore, Matt Ryan, Chris Weinke, Peter Warrick
Kellen Moore is such a sneaky good one. He was a smug little bastard after that game...if Tyrod just brings that ball down a couple feet for boykin....sigh
Matt Ryan, Peter Warrick, whatever board members and administrators didn't pursue growing the donor base and an SEC membership in the past, NCAA from basketball tourney to softball matchups it seems we always get teams on hot streaks ranked too low.
Bill Dooley.
Bill Dooley recruited a number one NFL draft pick for VT (Bruce Smith), took VT to our first bowl game win, took VT to more bowl games than VT had been to previously. You can hate him, but the guy knew how to win at football. Did he cut a few corners? Probably. Were they the same corners that all the other top programs were cutting? Probably. Does that make us feel uneasy? Yeah.
Without Bill Dooley, there is no Frank Beamer.
Hated our mascot. Started the chain of changes to the mascot that gave us foghorn leghorn.
Hated the turkey gobble and had it taken out of the stands.
As AD, left other athletics programs hanging.
Left us on probation.
Sued the athletic department after his role as AD was terminated.
Quote from an RT article in 2016 "I never worry about the Virginia Tech stuff because there weren't any wrongdoings, and I was always right." Doesn't sound at all disappointed or apologetic about leaving us on probation.
I was fine with the fighting gobbler mascot, but I'm also OK with the current one, which is in line with many others in college sports.
He was probably pretty annoyed with the university administration, as they seemed to fear the NCAA, where he appeared to understand the NCAA as they really are: no teeth, and most of their enforcement is pretty arbitrary.
After he left VT, he went on to coach at Wake Forest, where he helped THEM win a bowl.
I think one could make the argument that in spite of the probation, he was overall pretty good for VT football, and moved the program forward, even if the NCAA rapped us on the knuckles.
Don't get me wrong, I liked Beamer a lot better, but by my way of thinking, both of these coaches moved our program forward.
Speaking of which, where was the gobble on third downs this season? I didn't hear it at the WVU game at all or when I watched on TV.
yes, because without VT getting sanctioned due to all the rule breaking we never would have hired a former player coach from a then regional college.
that's like saying, had I not been carjacked I never would have gotten a new car.
lol
No, what I'm saying is that Bill Dooley took VT from complete obscurity to a winning program that went to three bowl games in six years (back when it was hard to go to a bowl game), won their first bowl game in the history of the program, and had a number one NFL draft pick. At the time, he was the winningest coach in VT football history.
His teams were noted for their vanilla offense and their strong defense. Sound familiar? He dug the foundation for the program, and set the stage for Beamer, who was able to take the program to a whole different level.
To remember him ONLY for the NCAA sanctions seems to sell him short.
1. The state of West Virginia. Keep mining that bitch down so we can enjoy Lake Virginia, the greatest lake.
2. Mack Brown, just go home old man.
3. Cody Journell and/or the Sugar Bowl referees.
4. Kihei Clark, overrated, stupid commercial, also go home old man.
I still can't believe Journell is a real estate agent now. If he tried to sell me a house I'd be checking it for booby traps
My wife shows me his posts every now and again just to get a rise out of me. I'd totally buy a house from Luther Maddy though.
Oh without a doubt, yes
Wait is buying a house from Luther Maddy an option? Did I just royally screw up my last home purchase?
I think he's mostly focused on the Lynchburg and surrounding markets. He's posted some really cool SML properties that come pre equipped with hokie memorabilia. I'd definitely hit him up if I ever decided to move back to the old lunch bag.
Insta link
If anyone listens to the "Tales from the Terrordome" podcast, there was recently an interview with Journell
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2PbOB3gWyTyx3HnVNcQQgN
I met that guy in college once or twice.
He was as much of a shithead as you would expect.
He does co owns a very good bbq restaurant tho🔥
1. WVU
2.UVA
3. Matt Ryan
4. The ref who overturned Danny Coales catch against Michigan
Just sprinkle some Biberty stuff in.
This a fantastic off-season topic. Leg for idea.
Of the people I actively dislike and root to fail:
Edit: I think I'll drop trevon in favor of Michigan refs in 2011
Edit #2: Gobbles says Mount Rushmore has to be individuals, so I will put forth:
But my Mount Rushmore of hated institutions is
Yeah i think VT is different than TKP.
Like the tkp mount rushmore of hate is probably JFJ, BKKAK, Narduzzi, Matt Ryan? Maybe swap out BKKAK for whoever our OC is.
VT sports in general is probably Swofford, Matt Ryan, Pac-10 Refs, and ????
Yeah I answered mine with a VT sports slant and not a college/TKP slant
Member PJ and chop block o'clock? I know I was talking shit about old people, but damn I'm getting old.
I forgot about Brian Kelly. I got plenty of hate for him too.
Also thought about adding Dabo. He's so god damn obnoxious. But high freeze and liberty are easily the team/individual I hate most in the sport.
My thing with "hugh freeze/liberty" is that mount rushmore is generally for individuals and not institutions. So i tried to keep mine to individuals
They are two different things. I hate Hugh Freeze and I've hated him since he was at Ole Miss. I hate Liberty, and I've hated them... as long as I can remember?
Chinballs
Matt Ryan
The NCAA
Jim Weaver
Paul Goddamn Johnson and his efficiently effective passing game. Every time I see his dopey face I want to punch it
This is the one that make me hate Paul Johnson. Fuck that guy.
Man, I could think of 4 just from Duke basketball.
But if I had to try and pick from different sports, schools, and eras (forgoing FMR because he's gonna be on everyone's):
- Grayson Allen. Duke and white guys with punchable faces are an iconic duo. But Allen was the most obviously bad person out of any of these, just a classless, dirty, whiny pissbaby. It brought me so much joy each time he'd come to the Cassell, fail to trip anybody, and lose.
- The referee of the 2011-2012 Sugar Bowl. Danny caught the damn ball.
- Butch Davis. Loved seeing him flame out at HC job after HC job back in the day, after his hot dogging Hurricanes denied Vick a shot at returning to the MNC.
- Finally, kind of a deep cut here, but Clint Sintim. He was a LB for UVA in the mid-late 2000s, and every time you turned around, he was always there doing some extra bullshit after the whistle. Late hits, grappling, running his mouth, starting fights, mocking, you name it. One of the dirtiest players I've ever seen from a school that isn't shy about throwing dirty players out there, he was sort of a Vontaze Burfict Lite. But Sintim never beat Virginia Tech in 4 tries, and his NFL career never got off the ground. Guess he should take a look at that guy in the glass.
honorable mentions: Jim Weaver, Julian Burruss, the 2010 NCAA tournament selection committee, Jim Harbaugh
I feel like HMs are cheating but this is also extremely innovative and I love it.
On a side note, are we this broken that we need to revel in hate when things might be starting to feel good? Also I'm here for it
oh I fully admit that I might revel a bit more than the average fan, but I don't care. I love it.
My HMs include Mark Emmert for his destruction of college athletics.
Yeah i hate clint sintim too bc the giants wasted a second round pick on him
Didn't we have a 5-0 run against Miami when he was their coach?
Just look where Sintim went to High School and it doesn't surprise me with some of his antics during college. I wouldn't be surprised if Ahmad Brooks rubbed off a bit on him too during their time together at UVA either.
Came into this thread fully expecting 50% of the answers to be Justin Fuente.
1. Dabo
2. Paul Johnson
3. Matt Ryan and Coach Jag
Hard to have someone from UVA on there when you've steamrolled them for the past 2 decades.
Honorable Mention: the ucla linebacker that targeted LT3 in the sun bowl and then the refs that ruled it a clean hit.
Tiki Barber would have been an honorable mention for me. He's always rubbed me the wrong way. He somehow finds ways to go beyond typical wahoo pretentiousness.
I almost put him in mine but realized there were others I hated more. Almost put Zumwalt in too.
That guy trucked me in High School, so i should hate him for that, but then he fumbled a lot in the NFL, which made me happy
He's on the radio in NYC now. Some Giants fans love him, some cant stand him for how bitter and petty he turned once the giants didnt bring him back and he called Eli's leadership into question.
But also the whole affair with the babysitter turned some opinion against him. He's not that good on radio either
I respect Dabo, seems like a good family guy, and can't hate just because he's successful..
Everything with him seems like an act, if things are going well he is all aww shucks lil' ol' clemson. But things go bad and he looks like he will go home and beat his dog. He just seems very fake.
Shane Beamer seems like a good family too, but he doesn't have to talk about it every time he touches a mic.
There's a joke about vegans: how do you know someone is vegan? They'll tell you.
That's how I feel about Dabo's coaching style, faith, politics, and world view. How do you know what Dabo thinks? He'll tell you.
I don't care that he wins. I actually like Clemson (the town and the team) and have a lot of good friends who are alums/fans. I just find Dabo insufferable.
Foxtrot them bitches for attacking my she-handicapped guest way back in '89!
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Y'all covered the big ones...
But for the undercard, I would nominate the following:
Jordan Zumwalt: Bullshit hit on Logan Thomas. (Not trying to debate it, and it won't change my mind.)
Walt Harris: He started the Pitt curse.
Louisville: Never forget the Metro purge.
Jim Harbaugh: that was some douche-y pre-snap bullshit that he pulled at Stanford vs VT in the Orange Bowl.
Edit: also. NCAA March Madness selection committee for multiple snubs. Just ask Seth Greenburg.
This was huge. Thnx for the memory. VT winning the Metro our 1st year there when we couldn't get into the tournament was a gigantic FU to the establishment.
1. Coach K (couldn't stand the way he was always whispering sweet nothings in the ref's ear).
2. Bobby Bowden (I was 0-3 watching VT vs him in person including the Sugar Bowl 😢).
3. Kihei Clark (pretentious ass, been playing forever)
4. Everyone associated with UNCheat
Now that you mention it, Jim Boeheim should be in this list. The jackass made it a policy in the Big East that Syracuse would never play in Blacksburg despite us being in the conference, and a major reason why we were never funded as a true equal member. And even then, it took a while in ACC play for him to finally come to play us at home.
Hope he hated every minute of our ACC title last year
Wait, how did he make it a policy in the Big East that Syracuse would never play in Blacksburg? I didn't know about this.
WVU:Not even a fun rivalry hate. I genuinely don't like them. I haven't been to a game since the series started again so maybe it's different but in the 90s and 00s, their fans were just the worst. The behavior, fights, etc and didn't care if kids were around either. Just gutter trash. The fans were so bad I was cool with the series ending. I'd rather not play them than be associated with them
Peter Warick:Maybe we still don't win the natty either way but I do know he shouldn't have been out there.
People who say Danny Coale didn't catch that ball
Paul Johnson:His face is just so punchable. He also looks like the kinda guy that farts in office meetings because he knows you can't go anywhere
1) LOLUVA football. Every person ever associated with that program. I can deal with other LOLUVA sports; a lot of my students end up studying there. Cannot stand those ass hats in football.
2) Coach K. Such a pretentious dick. Expected every call to go his way and most did. The times we beat them in Cassell were all time great moments for me, but beating them in ACCCG last year was the best.
3) Matt Ryan. That rainy Thursday night should've been one of the greatest of my life. Instead it was anything but. Most electric I've ever experienced Lane, and then that f**cker dances around for 20 seconds and heaves a prayer to beat the best VT defense of all time when they definitley didn't deserve to.
4) My deep cut is Jeff Jagozinski. That dude acted like he was people. Acted like he could hold frank beamers jock strap. Scrub.
PAC 12 Officials is number one. Danny caught that damn ball.
Matt Ryan number 2, beautiful choke job yesterday to one up his superbowl choke.
Kellen Moore number 3
Grayson Allen number 4
Tyler Hansborough number 5
Sean Dockery (1.6 Seconds)
Pac-12 Officials (No explanation needed)
Matt Ryan (Obviously)
Pat Narduzzi (Also, obviously)
Could easily add Swofford.
I find it hard to hate anyone, really, so for me it would just be the Crazy Narduzzi Monument.
And it would be especially poignant, as he's so soft it would have to be carved out of soap instead of stone, so he would be forgotten really quickly. As is fitting for a "coach" of his stature.
Shoog already said it, but freaking Zumwalt man. I have never let that dirty hit against LT go. And yes, I am petty enough that I get so much satisfaction out of the fact that Thomas had exponentially more success in the NFL than he ever did.
What he said.
Paul "chop block" I always hated playing GT as I was so worried about our linemen getting permanently hurt.
Any UVA basketball player with a shitty haircut; Perrantes/Kyle Guy's man bun/Kihei Clark
Paul Johnson, fuck that man's entire offensive ideology
Bret Bielema, I've never seen a grown man cry so much to referee's and stand on the field as he did in the Belk Bowl
Peter Warrick, GFYS
great deep cut on Bret Bielema. I lost my mind at that game, when he was complaining about the muffed punt that Arkansas ended up getting back. It was the only time in my life i ever saw a coach/player cry about a call so much that they actually got it changed.
I believe he was technically right, but it just engrained such a hatred for his stupid looking face.
Great way of combining all the worst into the worst.
Add Jack Salt to the LOLUVA basketball players, despite no shitty haircut.
Fanatics
Why is a hoodie $90. What the actual hell?
Hoodies are overrated.
But yeah, Fanatics really does charge double what anything could possibly be worth, including the pennies they give to the schools for their logo copyrights.
I understood that reference.
Sidenote: my wife's freshman roommate dated Krabbendam. The roommate was 4'10.
via GIPHY
Van Gogh? More like Ass Hole.
I see what you did there.
Ngl I was ready to fight you when I saw my boy Krabbendam's name
That Robben is a real SOB
Matt Ryan
The ref that called that BS pass interference against us in the USC game
Narduzzi
CornFu
Shit..I forgot one, Kellen Winslow Jr
Talk about someone who fell FAR.
What a disgusting human being.
Those early 2000s teams were easy to hate at the time but really lots of their guys were just good and have kept out of trouble while in the NFL, but Kellen Winslow Jr makes up for the Andre Johnsons and the Bubba Frank's and Frank Gore and Willis McGahees and makes me hate those trams even more.
I considered putting Larry Fitzgerald on my list cause I fuckin hated having to play against him...but once he got to the league, he was hard to dislike
I was hoping to be the first one to post this, but you took the award.
I can't believe I'm gonna say this because I know this is all in good fun, but I'm tired of hate. Oh I feel really passionate about beating UVA, WVU and Miami. I'll be spitting venom throughout the games but I've just grown tired of hate.
That being said the following people have punchable faces:
Narduzi
Al Groh and son
Eagles Fans
Esdall
1) F Matt Ryan.
2) The Chancellor at UNC who voted against us joining the ACC.
2) The President at Duke who voted against us joining the ACC.
3) F Matt Ryan. (Sitting in the stands for that one, it is definitely worth 2 entries).
1. Kids wearing ties at UVA football games
2. East Carolina
3. Pat Narduzzi
4. Morgantown, WV
5. The BIG 10
FIFY
Sugar bowl referees
I feel like I must be old, but Louisville not getting a mention on here seems like a miss.
Loserville from the Metro days is about 6th for me
1. Matt Ryan
2. Patrick Regan Narduzzi
3. Greivis Vasquez
4. College JJ Redick
The Greasiest dude of all time
Maybe it's my badsketball bias
1. TV TEDDY
2. Georgia Tech stealing Ts, Knees and Jerseys
3. Zima and Cheese at Lane North
4. Tailgateuva on Instagram
Honorable Mention: Steph Curry for failing to get offered ( only because it's rehashed every time Dell Curry is around)
1. Swofford
2. Fuentay
3. Nardouche
4. Corny
5. Matt Ryan
6. Stripes - Danny Coale's TD, Adibi's phantom PI vs Reggie Bush what a fucking trash call
Paul Johnson, Beoheim, That fucking prick running back from Pitt this year, Fuente for killing my school's football program.
1) David Braine
2) Jim Weaver
3) John Swofford
4) Jon Gilbert
Hate is a strong word... but Charles Adair our women's soccer coach would be right near the top of my list. Wish that he still wasn't a part of VT athletics.
care to expand? I'm curious
My guess is that the answer would be a political violation of the CGs
Just google him and I'm sure you can find the source of frustration for some. As stated, it would probably go against CG/political boundaries to expand past that.
Verbally abused one of our student athletes. Singled her out. Denied her opportunities to get her usual playing time.... all for expressing her beliefs. But as said below, I won't get into it due to community guidelines.
allegedly!
we can stop this here now lol thanks
Most have been mentioned already but-
Coach K- Such a hypocritical purveyor of sanctimony. First time we played them in the ACC he was chewing out the refs up 30 points after getting every single call all game (they shot FORTY-NINE free throws) and was always like that. Sit down and shut up.
Bobby Petrino- He was mean to Frank Beamer; I won't have it. Also being a general POS.
Paul Johnson- Dirtiest teams I've ever watched play. There's a difference between cut blocking and what his teams did. Twisting ankles, blatantly tackling defenders, diving at the sides/backs of knees, going at knees after the whistle, etc. You name it, they did it- every single play.
Peter Warrick/90s FSU- 2nd dirtiest teams.
Matt Ryan/Jeff Jagodzinski
Patt Narduzzi
Few things are more reprehensible than a bully. And that's what top college hoops coaches are... bullies. Plain and simple. Knight, Dean, Izzo, Coach K, Beoheim, Huggins, you name it. You can't ask them a tough question, you can't criticize their teams- if you do its "you never played at this level", you can't call a foul on their teams, and they control every single aspect of their program- down to who sits close to the court. They are nothing but bullies because they finish in the top 68 every year- that makes them more powerful than the govenor. Beoheim got the cuse head coaching job when I was 3 years old. I'm 51. No that guys not a control freak bully asshole, nah. Coach K told Duke he would coach until he died on the sidelines if they didn't let him name his replacement. He then proceeded to not recommend Tommy Amaker, because that would be "weird" for the current staff. Nah, not a bully. Fuck all of them.
I was visiting a friend at Tennessee and there was supposed to be electrical work done at night in the summer when dorms are basically empty. Well this was the same week as Pat Summit's basketball camp. And Pat couldn't have a potential hour outage I the middle of the night for her girls so she changed the contractors schedule. I don't think Fulmer could have even done that, but the amount of power coaches have is insane.
My luck with contractors is they would have come back with damages from having to rearrange their schedule.
Oh they probably did, but Pat got her way
Can't believe I forgot coach K
From the Poll I had in the other Hate Thread:
Most Hated Football Coach: Pat Narduzzi wins on the 3rd Ballot
Most Hated Basketball Coach: Jim Boeheim wins on the 1st Ballot
Most Hated NCAA (other): Matt Ryan wins on the 1st Ballot
Most Hated Self Inflicted: Brad Cornelson wins on the 1st Ballot
1. Matty Ice, about froze to death in that wet cold weather for that BS.
2. Paul Johnson
3. Mountaineers
4. Pete Warrick
Honorable Mention for Hate Intensity, but who didn't impact VT that much relatively speaking: Kemp IV (annoying loluva WR), Jagodinsky, Redwine (UM DB) and his stupid turnover chain, coach Roy Williams (who said when Seth Greenbrug first came to VT that SG was "in over his head" or "out of his league" or some such nonsense), Keith Lee of Memphis State, Roy Tarpley (1984 NIT semifinals), and the sanctimonious Coack K.
Hell, I didn't even realize it was raining for the first 56 minutes of that game. I was too busy enjoying shutting him down. On the flip side, coldest 4 minutes of my life.
Also the quietest exiting crowd I've ever been a part of. Ditto the bus ride home to Richmond. If only the rain hadn't stopped in those last minutes.....
We knew it was raining and started worrying the second it stopped. We all knew Matty could chuck the rock.
I wore a short sleeve shirt to that game and didn't even care til those last minutes. Ran the water heater to death warming up afterwards.
1. WVU
2. Grayson Allen
3. Matt Ryan
4. Miami
wow... a lot of good picks but I think number 1 has been totally missed so far. Here is the definitive for me.
1. Marcus Vick
Worst Hokie Ever and killer of VT momentum in 00s
2. Swofford
Killing a conference for generations due to greed.
3. Jet Sweep
we all saw this ranking coming right?
4. Refs at Michigan Sugar Bowl
it was a catch!
5. Chinballs
Just a detestable human being
honorable mentions: Undersized DEs and Nardouche
I debated about putting Marcus on my list. I was close. But at the end of the day, he put on Maroon and Orange. And gave the salute to 2 of my top 6. And for that, I gave him a pass.
I do agree w you that he set us back though, and he's a trbl representation of a Hokie.
Besides his brother Marcus was the best chance we ever had to going back to a NC and imo was better than Michael, he just could not stop fucking his own life up
He could've been better than his brother. He seemed more of a natural QB, just a wild head case of a human being.
the fact that he wore the Orange and Maroon is exactly why he's number 1.
Marcus was such a disappointment, but the Bryan Randall-led teams were still fantastic.