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Spoiler Alert: Pie wins.

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There is no loser when you do it right

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I think your arteries and pancreas are the losers here...

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Technically this battle has played out tournament style

This was the promo

and here is the results of the battle

Ironically, the Pie that won has "cake" in its name. The controversy continues.

1) Brown Sugar Pie would Dominate Cheesecake. Cherry Pie would dominate French Silk.

The Final Four should be Cherry Pie, Brown Sugar Pie, Apple Pie, and Peanut Butter Pie. And, Tres Leches Cake has to make the field. The Selection Committee did a terrible job this year.

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Agreed. These are some seriously weak contenders.

where's the chocolate lava cake, Mississippi mud cake, rhubarb pie? And what about savory pies, like chicken pot pie or Australian meat pie (no innuendo intended)?

rhubarb is the 11 seed

so it is. I posted this from my phone so uh... that's my excuse. thanks!

Yes, and it's Mississippi Mud Pie.

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My mom and her mom and so on before you called it Mud Pie. That trumps the article. It's our culture and family history.

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no no, they are two different things

Mud Pie

Mud Cake

always remember

Mud pie=stronger, better, durable.
Also, if you combine Red & Blue lasers you have to subtract from Knowing.

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I'm currently addicted to the game GIJoe Battlefield. App is killing me. But definitely brings me back.

How did I not know this game exists?

French, I have a feeling you would love a visit to where I work - Lancaster County, PA - for an indulgence into the world of Amish Pies.

They are quite good.

shoo fly pie aka molasses crumb pie...I grew up on that stuff.

wet bottom?

#Let's Go - Hokies

Is there another type?

Lemon Meringue smokes pumpkin 90% of the time and I am not sure that Key Lime doesn't take down Cheesecake as well.

you couldn't be more wrong about this. homemade pumpkin pie is top 10 ... easily .. lemon meringue .. barely makes the field

Pumpkin pie is a poser. It is made from squash not actually pumpkin 90% of the time.

mind blown

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Add a little strawberry to that rubarb and you have a magical combination

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Brown sugar pie?

I've never heard of it..

Google time

The final four is all pie?

Perhaps I was just too hungry.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

It's because you finished eating all those popplers while I was stepping on them just for fun.

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Pie always finds a way #TeamPie

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I assume a "cobbler" is classified as a pie? I like the final four, but I would change Blackberry Cobbler for Apple Pie. Addtionally, I must say that Coconut got screwed by having to matchup against Red Velvet in the first round. I think it would have won against any of the others with the exception of Ice Cream and German Chocolate.

“These people are losing their minds. This is beautiful.”

I don't know how any proud member of #TeamPie can take pride in a result where their winning entry was cake. Also Ice Cream Cake would've DOMINATED red velvet in the Elite 8 and would've most certainly beat cheesecake for the win.

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Red Velvet is more consistent and can out last Ice cream cake in longer events. Cheesecake is just so strong and durable, hard to beat that.

The playoffs are a sprint, not a marathon!

"We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behavior" Stephen M.R. Covey

“When life knocks you down plan to land on your back, because if you can look up, you can get up, if you fall flat on your face it can kill your spirit” David Wilson

Despite that the Yankees called it a cake (typical) we've already proved that cheesecake is actually a pie.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Grasshopper Pie a 16 seed? Thats BS! And honestly apple still beats out cheesecake

Logan 3:16

Why do copied tweets just show up as a gray line for me?

It's a grey area.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

#TEAMPIE

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I just read that in the Soviet Union, when they didn't have shortages, they put cheese and cabbage in pies. This is why we won the Cold War.

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So you're a Commie if you prefer pie?

Even they were smart enough to know that a horrible pie filled with cheese and cabbage is better than cake.

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It's called pierogi and they are fabulous.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

agreed. they are fabulous. but aren't they a kind of dumpling?

More like a savory hand pie.
Think like an old style single serving pie you used to be able to buy at the market except with sauerkraut and onions or potato and cheese, etc.
You can put fruit in them and then cook them but most commonly they have robust flavored veggies.
Here's a pic before it's cooked.
Uncooked pierogi.
Dumplings aren't stuffed and are more like a biscuit.

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hmm... seems the internet disagrees AND agrees with you

While dumplings as such are found throughout Eurasia, the specific name pierogi, with its Proto-Slavic root "pir" (festivity) and its various cognates in the West and East Slavic languages, shows the name's common Slavic origins, predating the modern nation states and their standardized languages, although in most of these languages the word means pie.

also in slang they are referred to as the "Polish Dumpling"

This however

Dumplings aren't stuffed and are more like a biscuit

is inaccurate as an entire continent of Asian could show you. Dumplings are indeed always stuffed and nothing like a biscuit.

Ok, US versions of dumplings are almost never stuffed.
In Asia, dumplings are and have been for a long time. I'm familiar from when I lived in Japan.

I think the reference to Asian dumplings to be a bit forced though as the contact between Asia and Poland would have been quite minimal. Which is why I wasn't thinking from that type of dumpling.
Pierogi would be closer related to ravioli than gyoza anyway.

The only real contact Poland would have with Asia would be the Monghols and it's not really one of those foods that would be introduced in that manner.

Stuffings for pierogi get too much influence from typical Germanic foods than Asian in their common meat based stuffings.

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I have often contemplated doing a film review of the Mongol conquest of the steppes of Kazakhstan and use it to diagram how Loeffler should run more speed option.

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These remind me of a childhood delicacy....fried apple pies.

Filling was kind of like your standard cooked apples/apple pie filling, crust was a simple dough folded over, fried to a golden brown.

Ok, now I'm hungry.

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I had fried apple pie as a child too!

That ain't even close.

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

Regarding dumplings, don't tell that to my wife's family. I've come to learn there are two kinds of dumplings, the beautiful and delicious dropped dumplings (similar to biscuits) and hideous and unnatural slicks (similar to waterlogged pie crust). Both hinge on how good the gravy they were cooked in is, but drops provide a nice fluffy texture while slicks feel like you are swallowing an eel.

This will never become unfunny to me: This morning, French posts an awesome, in-depth film review of a very promising safety prospect, looking at his strengths playing the football, his willingness to come up in run support, etc. A few hours later, we're back to pie.

This evening the aforementioned prospect weighs in on his stance in reply to said debate of cake v. pie.

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CJ REAVIS GETS IT

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BILLY RAY MITCHELL GETS IT

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Yes but what about Wyatt Teller? If he's #TeamCake your world might crash down around you.

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“When life knocks you down plan to land on your back, because if you can look up, you can get up, if you fall flat on your face it can kill your spirit” David Wilson

Hey #teamcake,

Signed,
#teampie

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Hello, this needs 3 additional upvotes. #TeamPie

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Gotta love this!! Recruit Participation!

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This is indeed awesome!!

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There is only one good cake, A PANCAKE

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Did all but two defenders end up on the ground on that play?

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While the pancake block is awesome, Eric Martin getting the reverse pancake forebode of horrors to come.

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Plus, Austin Peay.

haha... I thought that was NC State. Shows how drunk I was during the season last year.

That, and shows how bad NCSU is that I legitimately thought that was them.

...and one of them because he removed himself from the play entirely.

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I notice there is one 12th seed upset of a 5 seed. There is always a 12-5 upset in the NCAA tournament - sometimes 2 of them.

Also, Birthday cake and Wedding cake are the same ingredients (if they are basically butter creme frosting), so how is one a #1 seed and the other a #6 seed?

The addition of strawberry to the rhubarb would seriously move that up from an 11 seed to a 6 seed, it would then knock off blueberry and key lime to meet cheesecake. I think it could win that battle (unless said cheesecake has chocolate and/or strawberry swirls in it).

Wow, I'm getting hungry!

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The real question, is Andy Bitter #teamcake or #teampie?

I don't know about Andy, but I haven't before now come down on this important issue. I would like to announce at this time that Hokie CPA is, indeed, a proud member of

team pie

#TeamPie

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I don't know who.
I don't know when.
But someone is getting that as a tattoo this year.

A decade on TKP and it's been time well spent.

I've pretty much been team pie since that Warrant music video came out in 9th grade

(yeah, I went there...)

No kidding, right? Except that was my freshman year at Tech. :)

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Uhhh right....something about pie.

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i've never had brown sugar pie ... but i love brown sugar

My family calls that Butterscotch pie, which i never really understood since it tastes nothing like butterscotch. Its amazing and one year I had that for my birthday rather than the weak sauce tradition of cake!

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Pardon me for this question, but I don't quite understand why we're having a debate between pie and cake. Anyone care to enlighten me? Thanks.

It's just what we do here. Running theme.

"Exit light..."

Ohh, gotcha. Well, in that case, pie is the way to go.

I dont know why we're having a debate either. Clearly pie is far superior

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Game over.

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EXIT LIGHT. ENTER PIE.

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"Exit light..."

OH MY GOD. THAT'S PIE'S MUSIC KING!

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Sundae?

Onward and upward

Any day of the week is fine for pie.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Quite. I'm partial to the third day. Fourteenth hour.

Onward and upward

I see what you did there.

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didn't see what I did though?!?!..musta been too subtle

Onward and upward

No, I got it, your included obviously. The Corollary to the Law is:
The Original Statement is always included in any response to its 1st Derivative Statement on TKP.

OK, class is over, please return to your original blogging! Go Hokies!

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it wasn't my original statement I was referring to...it was my response to Egbert

I'm partial to the third day. Fourteenth hour.

Onward and upward

OK, I'll bite.... Why are you particular to Tuesdays at 2 PM?

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He could be either a Pink Floyd or Moody Blues Fan.
He could be a Douglas Adams fan.

Lots of really excellent references to Tuesday afternoon or Tuesday at 2 Pm.

I think in this case there is a reference to The Hairless Albino Monkey and the depressed robot on the beach planet that is perpetual 2PM Tuesday afternoon just before the Vogons attacked it.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Also there's a real nice Tuesday reference on the Cowboy Junkies First album.
But, that was Tuesday morning and the female lead was out of milk for her coffee so, I think that's not it.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

really? I didn't realize it was that obscure

third day ----------- 3
fourteenth hour ---- 14

3.14

#PI

Onward and upward

Now I feel really stupid. Well done.

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Thanks..I'm sorry it was so cryptic..my sense of humor gets lost on people more often than you might think

Onward and upward

I had a delicious French silk pie this evening from Owens. I couldn't stop thinking about pie all throughout class and then had to choose between that and pecan. And now I want more pie...

Pie can be diabolical like that.

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The people have spoken. According to you great people of TKP as noted in Joe's email, Pie is the winner. If you argue with math, you will lose.

"The Big Ten is always using excuses to cancel games with us. First Wisconsin. Then Wisconsin. After that, Wisconsin. The subsequent cancellation with Wisconsin comes to mind too. Now Penn State. What's next? Wisconsin?" -HorseOnATreadmill

I wonder how exactly he came by those values...

I know the best way to solve the debate. At the official TKP tailgate next year, we need pies and cakes, and whichever is eaten more is the winner. Obviously.

^^^^This!! It'll be awesome!

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He did an in-depth poll on improving the site in 2013. Cake vs Pie was one of the questions. Pie won a resounding victory in the electoral college and the popular vote.

#PIE2014

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I actually remember that survey, now that you mention it. But, what about the influx of new members? The total count is still a mystery that must be solved at the tailgate. Or some other convenient time.

So we all donate some money to the site in the hopes that Joe puts in a live-count cake vs. pie tracker. When you sign up for the site, you have to vote, and your vote is added to the count.

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TEAM CAKE!!!!

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OH NO IT'S A WHAMMY

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Like this?

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

Nope

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Oops, my youth is showing. Let me hide that.

Sorry for the exposure.

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I would be on Team Pie, but there is one that rises above them all: Ice cream cake.

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We also discussed this at length and declared that since ice cream CAN be made as a custard, that ice cream cake is a frozen crustless pie, except for the ones, such as oreo ice cream cake, which is a crusted frozen pie.

The mechanical transformation of the custard renders the use of the pie crust as structure, as unnecessary and therefore an option. It can certainly be retained for flavor and crunch.

So, your enlistment to TeamPie is not endangered.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

I see what you did there. Devilish!

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I feel a lot better now that I am truly a part of Team Pie. Imaginary upvote for you.

My Mama says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush

Leg to get you on your way to handing out legs of your own.

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Pic

My Mama says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush

That's Perty....

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Team Pie is like that kid in high school that constantly needed validation by trying to constantly one up you. There was a discussion but as my wife will tell you that doesn't mean an agreement was reached. Cake is in the title, it is clearly cake. Its the only point that matters, all other points are like UVA's coaching staff, they're there and fun to talk about but at the end of the day they don't really do anything and can't win.

"We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behavior" Stephen M.R. Covey

“When life knocks you down plan to land on your back, because if you can look up, you can get up, if you fall flat on your face it can kill your spirit” David Wilson

Your premise is suspect.

To extend your point, we find the country of Germany must then be a germ.
It's is incorrect, it is a country.

Therefore your premise is found silly. Calling a Doug's taila leg, doesn't make it a leg.
It's pie.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Ice Cream Cake is ice cream. I'm not convinced it qualifies as pie, but I'm certain it's not cake. There's nothing cake about it. I'm pretty sure one ingredient of #everycake is FLOUR. There is no flour in Ice Cream Cake.

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When you ask Mom for some ice cream, do you ask for a slice of ice cream? No.
When you go to Baskin and Robbins, do you ask for a slice of ice cream? No. You ask for scoops. How many scoops would you like on that cone? 3 please.

When you are served ice cream cake, do you ask for 3 scoops of ice cream cake? No, you ask politely for a big slice.

You have already conceded that it's not cake. That leaves pie.

Your flimsy argument against it being pie? I don't think it qualifies. Can't even enumerate your objections so, you know in your heart that, it's pie.

Fess up and got yerself a nice big slice.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

That's just a cake that uses ice cream in leu of icing.

That you had to look and find some rare examples proves the rule.
Thanks.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

I had to find a reference to something I know I've seen before, so doesn't prove the rule. And the ice cream is inside as a proper layer of the cake and not just an icing.

Look, I am all for PIE but if the argument is that there is no such thing as Ice Cream Cake then this proves that there is.

Ice cream pies I had never seen before though.

A quick Haiku:

A blizzard outside
I have no pie in my house
Man I want some pie

You know what my birthday cake is? Pie. You know what's a piece if cake to make? Pie. You can't have your cake and eat it too, because your likely full of... Pie. My wedding cake topper was pie.

Only reason to eat cake is because it's holding pie hostage, and even then I'll only eat enough to get to pie.

Pie.

It could be worse.

That's commitment!

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Well, we do know there's something you can do to a pie (in fact an entire film series was spawned off of it) that hasn't been done to a cake.

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Pie is way sexier than cake. #TEAMPIE

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Doin' God's work, son.

Couldn't find the original thread so i'll leave this here. Sister made something like this yesterday... Red Velvet Cake in a pie crust... This way everyone wins, right? Red Velvet Cake Pie