The first time we lost to ODU, I was in Reno and only bet the over (which hit). I remember ODU being 30-1, and couldn't bring myself to bet against us. I learned my lesson. Take the underdog, and if we lose, at least I have some money to finance the impending bourbon binge. If we win, it was an insurance premium im happy to pay.
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This is exactly where I'm at, I want Pry to absolutely blow the doors off of ODU but I'll take ODU +14.5 any day of the week. Either my heart or wallet is happy
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the really sad part about this is that 3 TDs and 2 FGs is not good offense this day in age (especially against ODU, a team that finished 3-9 last year and had a deffense ranked in the bottom half of CFB). 27 points isn't going to win you very many games in 2023. (For reference, our 118th ranked offense scored 19 ppg in 2022)
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Yeah, we typically outperform in Game 1 home openers, plus Ali Jennings may have a little more in the tank for this game, as long as we have a QB that can get him the ball. I'd probably take us and give the points.
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A previously 3-win VT team who is getting settled in with its coaches and will be upgraded at most offensive skill positions vs a previously 3-win ODU team who lost its best receiver to said VT team and is playing on the road at night in the Terror Dome? Yeah give me VT -14.5. Nothing better than winning twice.
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I think the environment is still great, especially at night. The crowd always gets into it. And if they drop out because the team gets down big in the first half, that's a "the team needs to play better" problem not a Lane Stadium problem.
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Was at the WVU game last season and it was quiet by our standards. Most everyone videoed Sandman and didn't actually jump or scream, early game third downs were not nearly as rowdy.
I've been to OSU '15, Clemson '17, no where close to that. Hell even '12 GT and '19 Pitt were louder, and the Pitt game was in the rain!
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We four went to Fu'... hard @Fu'.
We four then went to Pry... hard @Pry.
Begging/pleading... 'you were not here, you don't know how much this means.'
Fu was dismissive when I told him they would beat him. Very.
Pry at least listened a mite when told the same-- tho' both viewed it as an O.O.C. game to, burn.
sad... we'll never get it back...
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b.street
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Easy money. Easy. Take ODU. Last years game SHOULD have been a VT cover of 14.5 or so, and you see how we bumbled that game down the stretch. Run to the book to take ODU. VT won't beat many teams by 2 plus touchdowns with this offense.
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yeah, exactly. Our offense is straight hot garbage until proven otherwise. And nobody has been able to prove otherwise in nearly 30 years (the "good" offenses that we have had (2009/10, 2016) were anomalies and not actually indicative of any trends or patterns)
Our offense was historically bad in 2022 and there is no real reason to expect it to be a whole lot better in 2023. We should expect another offense hovering around 100th in the nation. Anything better than that is an unreasonable expectation, IMO
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I don't bet, but I'd be very reluctant to put money on Virginia Tech to win a specific game by more than two touchdowns this season.
This game will be the Super Bowl as usual for ODU, while our players will view it as a game we "should easily win" because it's human nature and they're 18-21 year old men.
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Considering the "performance" of our offense last year, I'm not fully convinced we can score 15 points.
I know we have upgraded at the skill positions but QB play remains a big question and the OL is at least as big a concern if not more so than last year.
ODU plus the points seems like the wise bet. I, like many others, would be happy to be wrong but until our Offense proves they can be something beyond inept, I have trouble putting money behind them.
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Tell me who the QB is going to be (don't discount Pry rotating them to some degree), tho Wells should be good enough to cover against ODU. Receivers/backs should provide a framework for a very efficient short to midrange passing game (and hopefully Griffin Armstrong proves his worth in Game 1). Except for QB, last year's O should be in the rearview mirror.
Lots of well warranted, "I'll believe it when I see it", but, if we sign one more DB from the portal, we'll have, count 'em, 39 NEW players for next year, including 11 from the portal. The majority of those 11 will start and all will play a lot...and I think we'll notice.
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The first time we lost to ODU, I was in Reno and only bet the over (which hit). I remember ODU being 30-1, and couldn't bring myself to bet against us. I learned my lesson. Take the underdog, and if we lose, at least I have some money to finance the impending bourbon binge. If we win, it was an insurance premium im happy to pay.
This is exactly where I'm at, I want Pry to absolutely blow the doors off of ODU but I'll take ODU +14.5 any day of the week. Either my heart or wallet is happy
I'd take odu to cover but I think vt wins. Being that it's the first game it's likely to be ugly. I'm thinking something like 27-20
Ugly and we score 27? I like your expectations for the offense!
We could score 27 the Iowa way!
the really sad part about this is that 3 TDs and 2 FGs is not good offense this day in age (especially against ODU, a team that finished 3-9 last year and had a deffense ranked in the bottom half of CFB). 27 points isn't going to win you very many games in 2023. (For reference, our 118th ranked offense scored 19 ppg in 2022)
We will obviously miss an extra point!
Definitely taking ODU +14.5. If I lose I won't even care because it means we blew out an inferior team for once.
Give me VT -14.5. Home opener, at night, revenge game, healthy roster. VT wins in a blowout. Wins 4 more games this season.
dont you dare jinx our roster health or so help me i will personally hold you responsible, bar
Yeah, we typically outperform in Game 1 home openers, plus Ali Jennings may have a little more in the tank for this game, as long as we have a QB that can get him the ball. I'd probably take us and give the points.
A previously 3-win VT team who is getting settled in with its coaches and will be upgraded at most offensive skill positions vs a previously 3-win ODU team who lost its best receiver to said VT team and is playing on the road at night in the Terror Dome? Yeah give me VT -14.5. Nothing better than winning twice.
WADR Lane at night is nothing special anymore. When Duke comes in and toy's with you- you have to earn that back. sorry
I think the environment is still great, especially at night. The crowd always gets into it. And if they drop out because the team gets down big in the first half, that's a "the team needs to play better" problem not a Lane Stadium problem.
Disagree.
Was at the WVU game last season and it was quiet by our standards. Most everyone videoed Sandman and didn't actually jump or scream, early game third downs were not nearly as rowdy.
I've been to OSU '15, Clemson '17, no where close to that. Hell even '12 GT and '19 Pitt were louder, and the Pitt game was in the rain!
...showed in the score; n'est-ce pas?
We four went to Fu'... hard @Fu'.
We four then went to Pry... hard @Pry.
Begging/pleading... 'you were not here, you don't know how much this means.'
Fu was dismissive when I told him they would beat him. Very.
Pry at least listened a mite when told the same-- tho' both viewed it as an O.O.C. game to, burn.
sad... we'll never get it back...
🥈
b.street
Easy money. Easy. Take ODU. Last years game SHOULD have been a VT cover of 14.5 or so, and you see how we bumbled that game down the stretch. Run to the book to take ODU. VT won't beat many teams by 2 plus touchdowns with this offense.
yeah, exactly. Our offense is straight hot garbage until proven otherwise. And nobody has been able to prove otherwise in nearly 30 years (the "good" offenses that we have had (2009/10, 2016) were anomalies and not actually indicative of any trends or patterns)
Our offense was historically bad in 2022 and there is no real reason to expect it to be a whole lot better in 2023. We should expect another offense hovering around 100th in the nation. Anything better than that is an unreasonable expectation, IMO
I don't bet, but I'd be very reluctant to put money on Virginia Tech to win a specific game by more than two touchdowns this season.
This game will be the Super Bowl as usual for ODU, while our players will view it as a game we "should easily win" because it's human nature and they're 18-21 year old men.
I'm going to have a hard time picking VT against any spread. I love 'em, but I can't trust 'em.
Hard time betting the over having never seen most of our offensive skill position starters in maroon and orange.
Considering the "performance" of our offense last year, I'm not fully convinced we can score 15 points.
I know we have upgraded at the skill positions but QB play remains a big question and the OL is at least as big a concern if not more so than last year.
ODU plus the points seems like the wise bet. I, like many others, would be happy to be wrong but until our Offense proves they can be something beyond inept, I have trouble putting money behind them.
Tell your hundred to find ten of his friends and bet VT and the over
31-10 Tech, we cover the spread.
Tell me who the QB is going to be (don't discount Pry rotating them to some degree), tho Wells should be good enough to cover against ODU. Receivers/backs should provide a framework for a very efficient short to midrange passing game (and hopefully Griffin Armstrong proves his worth in Game 1). Except for QB, last year's O should be in the rearview mirror.
Lots of well warranted, "I'll believe it when I see it", but, if we sign one more DB from the portal, we'll have, count 'em, 39 NEW players for next year, including 11 from the portal. The majority of those 11 will start and all will play a lot...and I think we'll notice.
Great. Now I have hope.
If it's even a question to you, take the points.
I'll wait and see who QB1 is.