Background:
Born and raised in City of Richmond went to Benedictine High School. Played football for 2 state title teams there. Worked at Ukrops going from bagger to cashier to trained butcher with probably my favorite company ever in term of how they treated employees. Was admitted to Randolph Macon in Ashland in Fall 2002 and was going to play football but between lingering injuries, not "feeling it anymore" and too many parties I left the team after summer and early fall camp. Made it one year at RMC and decided college wasn't for me. During fall at RMC I had taken a job at Kings Dominion in security as short term seasonal. I was asked to keep working during the off season at night and into the next summer.
Also during this time was the infamous DC sniper shootings in VA the one that was closet was at the Ashland Ponderous steakhouse. I was working KD that night and it was weird standing outside the park directing traffic while knowing a sniper had just shot someone a few blocks from my dorm. Once I left RMC I started taking classes at VCU and working a lot more for KD. Was working the day we had the shooting in the parking lot during college days also. Had the chance to work with Hanover Sheriff deputies during my days at KD and applied when I was old enough and was hired at 20. This probably was biggest error I made in my public safety career. I had little life experience compared to most others on the job, who came after working for other busier agencies or time in the military. I was assigned to midnight shift and didn't make many close friends because of the age gap and my propensity to want to find calls to get into. Left Hanover after some heated meetings and am glad it came to a head early in my time. Went to the fire side with Chesterfield while working at MCV. Met my wife while working at VCU while she was doing an away rotation during her residency in Columbus Ohio. So after long distance for a year I moved to Ohio got a job with a fire department up there and we got married. I followed my wife around for residency, fellowship and first post training employment so never with one agency for more than 4 years but learned a lot, saw a lot got a lot of exposure and training.
We settled down outside Myrtle Beach SC for 4 years, at this point we had 4 daughters who were keeping me busy most days. We decided with tuition being really cheap for county residents at the state community college I would get working on some degrees to match my training and experience. When her hospital job became a ceiling with no growth potential we looked around and settled on Jacksonville FL area and moved down here 5 years ago. Since then I've earned a bachelors degree and my first of two masters degrees.
I spend my days taking kids to their activities, school and appointments, doing coursework and trying to take some plates away from my wife to support her and her crazy schedule. Our family enjoys Disney trips, Disney cruises and travel in general. This year we have gone to 5 states, and 5 countries, we always are telling the kids experiences over items.
I've been a fan of Hokies football since my cousin took me to my first game in Lane in 1995 or 96. Sat right behind the band in the East stands. Been a Hokie Club member for 12 years and a season ticket holder for 6. We recently got Jaguars season tickets to catch a few games, Duval! I have also taken up coaching girls flag football for 3 of my girls, all 4 play. Girls flag football with the support of the NFL has really taken off here. We expect between 300 and 400 girls for our fall season.
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Favorite way to explore the New River?
What specialty does your wife practice?
Have you started a wedding fund for your 4 girls?
Do your daughters appreciate your dance moves?
Never been on the New River. Until last season I had seen more away Hokie camps and bowl games than Games in Blacksburg. My wife is a gastroenterologist, we met over a colonoscopy. I was the technician in the room and she was observing and I shot my shot with a doc. Between college funds and all their activities I'm not sure we can afford more than a wedding in the backyard. My kids love my dance moves because I dance like I don't care and my wife can carry rhythm in a bucket.
This is amazing
What's next for you professionally?
What are you reading?
I got my first masters in emergency and crisis management my second is public administration. Once the kids are a little older I'm either going to find a company to do consulting work or work for local government in the executive offices helping oversee the public safety agencies for that locality. I'm too old to go back to an academy for fire (Florida doesn't take out of state certs) I might look at doing reserve police officer work once the girls are all out of high school.
Parenting philosophy. And what's it like having 4 kids?
Building off of this... thoughts on 3 kids v 4? Our second is a week old lol
Going from 2 to 3 is the toughest honestly. It's no more man v man defense your running zone.
Harder than zero to 1?
Honestly yes, zero to 1 we had to just learn how to take care of a baby. There were two of us only 1 of them.
Congratulations!
Thank you thank you
Parenting philosophy. Make sure they are well educated, have interests outside of the house, have food to eat a place to sleep and don't hurt each other too badly when they fight. 4 kids is a lot, I spend alot of time driving around everywhere, I spend Sundays from 1pm to 9pm coaching girls flag football. Thursday from 4-730 running kids to gymnastics or basketball games for 2 daughters who cheerlead. Travel can be rough often need 2 hotel rooms.
All true. As the 6th of seven kids and a USAF brat, , I can't imagine being or having an only child. The ex and I had three before she got her tubes tied or we would have followed in our parent's footsteps child wise. To some extent, you only truly experience parenthood when there's more than one- they often don't sleep at the same time, sibling rivalry, blaming the other kids when they get in trouble.
My mom was a saint and strong woman. With dad on TDY 3-4 times a year and his year in Vietnam in 1967-8, she did a lot of the parenting on her own. Before I was born, my mom had to bring the kids to Okinawa solo as my dad had gone ahead to secure housing. She flew from upstate NY to Okinawa BY HERSELF with a 6 yr old, 5 yr old, 4 yr old and twin nine month olds. The oldest three were on harness and leash (I don't like those but can understand why she needed them in those circumstances) and the twins were one on each hip.
She said at a layover in Kansas City, the three oldest got loose and ran in three different directions with none of them looking back(cause they KNEW if she caught their eye they'd have to stop!). She said she sat down, smoked a cigarette and a drunk guy came up to her and said "Do you want me to round them up""? She said she thought for 15-30 seconds then said "Yeah- their dad would probably miss them"! And damned if the drunk guy didn't get them all back to her.
Fond memories of childhood- we were not materially wealthy but I think far richer than most kids ever were in the things that count.
Have to ask: Which one of these kids in the KC airport was you?
I wasn't yet even a gleam in my dad's eyes at that point!(1962). I wasn't born til '65! And I was the poster child for the compliant kid. If I asked my mom if I could do something and her reply was "well I'd rather you didn't but you do what you think is right", there was no way I was doing it; it was like slapping my head ala NCIS Gibbs.
Side note- my dad asked my mom if they could take a boat and charter it to get the family to Okinawa. Also suggested (somewhat seriously) that they get a pair of monkeys to raise at the same time along with the twins!
Also re kids fighting. he actually had to build basically cages in the back seat to keep the kids from hitting each other.
Parents today have NO idea what traveling was like before the days of screens and consistent radio/music. We had our ten person 1965 Ford station wagon- 3 person bench seat in front, same in middle and two two seat benches facing each other sideways in the back(that could fold down to use as storage/trunk-space. My parents would only drive for 50 minutes at a time before pulling over at rest area and making all 6 of us get out and run around for ten minutes so they could have sanity breaks. and we sang in the car- old folks hits like "I've been working on the railroad" etc. as well as USAF drinking songs and Christmas carols. Sounds odd but those memories got us through the times when my parents passed away years later. Never forget when mom was in the ICU that April and expected to pass that afternoon and we had 6 of us in the ICU (when you were supposedly not allowed to have more than one in there) all of us singing Christmas carols and drinking songs. Got some strange looks from staff but also admiration for how we were dealing with it.
I know my son is a polar bear and all, but how do you survive in the heat down there? I'd never want to leave the house.
If you have been over there, any favorite places to eat in the Tampa area?
Haven't been to Tampa it's on our list. I learned from working a single week in a Virginia field learning from migrant workers who kicked my ass up and down that field. Take it slow and steady when you can, don't run, drink lots of water just keep at it and you will finish your outside job. As I've gotten older I do prefer the inside and some AC especially on the 95 to 110 days.
Tampa's definitely worth a weekend trip. Highly advise taking the long way around from Jax to avoid 4 through Orlando. Got my car totaled en route to Tampa a few years back.
Bern's Steakhouse was awesome, albeit expensive. (20 years ago last time I was there.) Consistently ranked among the best US steakhouses.
How did the trip to the Silos you were talking about in the Food thread. Was it as bad as I imagine it would be?
Honestly I really enjoyed it. Didn't think I would but I did. Waco was nice, got to eat some good food. The silos themselves had great food trucks, we took a behind the scenes tour learned about the history of the place, the church they moved, got to go up and take pictures as a family above the place. Went to a Texas Bucees (my 6 year old is obsessed with two we have in Florida). Wife found some cool
Stuff for the house and kids got souvenirs. We actually stayed in a home they renovated and rent our.
Totally agree!! Worked for them from summer before senior year in high school(1982) through the college years at VT during summers and breaks. Agree they were great folks to work for (met many of the family in person). The company picnic at the Ukrop farm in east end was awesome Their attitude toward s customer service transformed the local grocery market (driving Safeway out of the Richmond area). At a time when banks weren't open on Saturdays and ATMs were just starting to become common, they would cash checks for up to $350 over purchase(with inflation that would be like $800 or more now). If you forgot your checkbook or cash, you just signed a form and took your groceries home; payment could wait til the next time you came to the store. Groceries bagged and taken to your car for free with no tipping allowed. If you brought an empty milk jug and told them it had spoiled before the sell by date, they just said go grab another one for free.
I worked at the Patterson Avenue store which at the time was the busiest of their stores. Lines of dozens of people at the doors when they opened at 8 am Saturday; ran out of carts on regular basis; lines ten deep at each of the registers. Didn't sell alcohol at all; closed on Sundays;-people would do their grocery shopping at Ukrops then stop by Safeway to but their beer. Absolutely committed to quality and to service- I actually drove someone's groceries to the customer's house once after they accidentally left part of them at the store.
Sad day when they sold off the company to Giant!
I worked at what we lovingly called "ghetto U" on Midlothian near Chippenham. We were a small store but we all worked great together. The yearly picnic was awesome. Getting to use a ukrops box suites at the Braves games is awesome. Being in the ukrops Christmas parade, the work bonus for your birthday and your anniversary.
Sycamore Square bagger turned fried chicken master chef! Gosh I miss working there but I to this day can't walk into a grocery store without getting triggered by the smell of the chicken.
I can taste it now. Chicken leg and thigh, potato wedges and a White House roll. My other go to meal at work was chicken salad on White House roll.
I did almost everything for them including cleaning the entire store from scraping gum of the floors/shelves with a razor blade to cleaning the suspended ceiling panels. As a note to how things used to be, when we were cleaning the hanging signs (e.g. Dairy, Produce. etc.) we thought they were tan/brown signs...til we wipe it with rag and cleaner and discovered they were actually pure white! The nicotine stains from all the smoking in the stores had turned them brown!
What's the dumbest thing you have ever done?
Whats the nicest thing you have ever done?
What's your favorite sound?
What's your guilty pleasure?
Whats the oddest/strangest thing you have ever seen happen, where you literally said to yourself: 'I cant believe that just happened right in front of me?
If you could remove one thing from existence in the world, what would be? It could be a person past or present, a thing, an emotion, .....anything.
What's the dumbest thing you have ever done?
Tell my sergeant at the sheriffs office "No". Can't go into details but I left another new recurits left a day later and he was "encouraged to find another agency" a week later.
Whats the nicest thing you have ever done?
I have no idea. I've always tried to be nice and always tried to help my people, the community works at large. I did over 2,000 hours of community service my junior and senior year of high school, have volunteered as an EMT, firefighter, PE teacher for preschool, football coach, done medical assistance trips to other states and Mexico etc
What's your favorite sound?
My moms family is from Westmorleand county. I used to love going out on my grandmas porch and listen to nature. Either ran or storms, early morning bugs and birds or nighttime sounds I loved that place.
What's your guilty pleasure?
Food. I eat way too much and I know it but can't stop finding new places to try.
Whats the oddest/strangest thing you have ever seen happen, where you literally said to yourself: 'I cant believe that just happened right in front of me?
When I was a deputy I was called to assist Hanover fire department with an alarm call at a house. When I arrived on scene, you could hear the alarm and come in as a fire alarm but the fire captain was concerned that I was a burglar alarm I went into the home couldn't find anyone didn't see anything broken the doors are busted open or anything but as per my EMT training, I've gotten to use a forward looking infrared camera, so I asked the firefighters if I could use theirs or walking around the house, looking for a potential electric fire something in the walls person hiding anything we could see, and the only thing that lit up was making a noise in the corner behind the couch was a cylinder, a slightly warmer than the room around it. We move the couch and we gaze upon a 10 to 12 inch multicolored dildo vibrator still on. It turns out the families colleges daughter come back into town with her new girlfriend while the parents were out of town didn't know the alarm code had accidentally set off the fire panic while trying to turn it off and then ran into the back woods behind the house when they heard the sirens.
If you could remove one thing from existence in the world, what would be? It could be a person past or present, a thing, an emotion, .....anything.
Having to explain to my kids, what active shooter drills are at school. I've worked shootings before on adults and older teenagers. I cannot imagine what teachers, kids and first responders that have gone through/to school mass shootings with young 5,6,7,8 year old kids went through at that time and are still going through in their mind today.
What area? I grew up in the adjoining County and had grandparents in the Ebb Tide community on Mattox Creek in Westmoreland.
Oak Grove area mostly but have cousins and great fill in the blank all around Westmoreland and King George.
My grandfather's business was on Rt 3 just east of Oak Grove. I was in that area a lot. Came up to walk the beach and fish Mattox Creek. My grandmother was an expert at finding shark's teeth on that beach.
I'm amazed how many sharks teeth we found over the years at George Washington's birthplace, Westmorleand state park and Stratford Harbour area.
The State park cliffs are still full of them. I also worked at KD but earlier than you guys. I worked summers in ride maintenance in '79 & 80. Helped build the mountain for overtime money.
Smurf Mountain? Loved that ride and time shaft in there too was my favorite.
They were called Doozies, spelled something like that.
It's time for breakfast/brunch, what are you having?
Biscuits and gravy or country fried steak if it's a new place. At the firehouse on Sunday and now at places I've gone to enough to know they will make it, a
take two biscuits, cover in shredded hashbrowns, smother in sausage gravy with lots of meat and black pepper, top with two runny sun side up eggs and hot sauce of your choice. It looks like a pair of big bugs eyes starring at you, hence the name.
That sounds heavenly.
Side note: it is almost impossible to have too much black pepper in sausage gravy. Everybody is always too timid with the grinder.
How do you sleep at night knowing that you have arguably the worst food take ever on all of TKP?
Like a man who knows Mac and cheese is overrated.
Team Moe's. Always and forever.
Never had this issue at Moe's!
It's true. I've never gotten sick at Moe's. Then again, going once convinced me never to go back so the odds were pretty good.
You obviously didn't get the chipotle ranch sauce on your burrito.
What's the soundtrack to your life?
What's your favorite personal story?
Did you ever get the BS sorted out about your 2nd Masters?
Not sure about soundtrack I like so many different types of music from the 60's to today. Country, rap, alternative, Rick, Hispanic anything with a good beat honestly. But I can't tell you the names of the songs or who sings them in most cases.
How I met my wife and how our long distance dating happened. Already said how we met, over a colonoscopy. But when we were dating long distance I drove to Columbus once then flew once through NY which took forever. Then suddenly a new airline popped up with direct flights from Richmond to Columbus and tickets started at 10 dollars per leg. Each section of 10 went up incrementally by 10. There were no assigned seats and they loaded front and back doors of the plane. It was great. They went out of business one month before our wedding.
They allowed me to transfer 12 credits over and pick all my other classes myself.
Well at least you got to transfer the 12 credits...
Good to hear your story. I worked at KD full time from 88 to 06. I am sure we crossed paths. I imagine you know(knew) chance, hezy and Tony ( both tony's) etc. Maybe we can talk sometime.
And your mother is from westmoreland. Lived here most of my life
Depending on what department you were in likely. My mom is from Oak Grove. My cousins live all over the county still. I used to be at Westmorleand berry farm most summers up there.
Looking at Google maps and I see Ingleside Winery near the old berry farm is still open. My dad played tennis with the owner, Carl Flemer, quite a bit. Loved the river around Leedstown area. I haven't been back in that area in 30 years.
Leedstown has some cool history that most people don't know about.
https://www.americanhistorycentral.com/entries/leedstown-resolves-1766/
The cypress siding that was on my parents house was stamped on the back as being received by boat in Leedstown. I don't remember the year but the house was built in 1905.
How old are your girls?
6 ( will be 7 in September), 8, 10 and 12.
I knew one was about MiniLancerHokie's age and they were all pretty close in age...
Are you surviving middle school?
I've learned that girls a a holes to each other. It's me of the teams I coach is the oldest level so 7,8,9th grades. I laid down the law early about being catty or mean to each other also talked about self respect and I wouldn't stand for bullying.
I have 3 girls ages 15, 12 and 12 and you will hear the meanest things you've ever heard in your life when sisters fight
Mine are 12 and 8, can confirm. And I'm afraid that they're only warming up.
17 and 14. Same deal. and they won't give it up. They drag their Mom in too.
I have good noise canceling headphones and a motorcycle.
This is the way!
Or stop at 1.
or have boys...
Can't really control that my dude
After four girls, my parents tried every old wives tale trick for getting a boy. My dad wanted a boy and my mom refused to have 6 kids. It worked...
You think if you'd been born a girl your dad would have beheaded your mom?
You ever heard of Henry VIII?
(It's a history joke)
I saw Six last Friday night. Surprisingly it was really good and very short.
Middle School Teacher here
Can confirm middle school aged girls are vicious. I have seen girls have a full-on drag out fight the first week of 6th grade, be cool with each other for the next two and a half years and then try to murder each other the last weeks of 8th grade because of unfinished business from that first week of 6th grade.
Nobody holds a grudge like a preteen girl.
I never saw boys fight at school, but I saw a lot girl fights and those were the nastiest dirtiest fights there are.
Yeah I am certified NK-8 (and have a Masters as a Reading Specialist)and knew even before I started student teaching that I had NO desire to teach Middle School...
Student teaching reaffirmed this decision with no questions. Because of my certification. I had to do ES and MS placements. ES was fun and I enjoyed it. MS- not so much. I had a 6th grade girl who had a good 6+ inches and a good 50+ pounds on me scream at me to let her out of the God Damn classroom the day after she pushed me.
Flashbacks to the hooker fight I talked about....
I'm amazed how my girls can say the absolute meanest things to each other one minute and then hang out like nothing ever happened an hour later.
I told them if I spoke to my brother the way they spoke to each other we wouldn't ever see each other again.
Thankfully they all seem to have the code that they can speak to each other that way but NOBODY on the outside can, so they at least stick up for each other.
Parenting teen girls is wild.
The crew we go tailgate #18 with were having a discussion one day and one of the ladies ask why men are so afraid of girls.
My reply was that teenage girls are the cruelest creatures on the planet.
General agreement all around.
I own a typical 1950's split level. I've got smoke alarms on each level + co detectors on the lowest and highest levels. I have ABC fire extinguishers in the kitchen and in my bedroom. Central alarm is probably not in the cards right now. I dont park a car in the one car garage- its all just tools, a freezer, and storage. Is 2 fire extinguishers in the locations I mentioned reasonable for my house?
Put one in garage. Has your electrical been inspected? What kind of heat source do you use? Fireplace?
Oil furnace- forced air. 3 years old. No fireplace.
Wherever your oil furnace is it needs plenty of space around it about 3-5 feet clear.
Favorite thing about TKP?
If you could convert turkey legs to anything. What would it be?
That over the last 11 years the community has always been there. From helping with school work, helping with finding places to eat, tailgates at Lane. Helping navigate Blacksburg for the first time in decades. Being here to just lose myself during tough times in my personal life and tough times watching Hokies sports.
Convert my legs to 123,742 new Hokie alums who each give 1000 dollars to the program each year. This would more than double the budget for all sports.
Good job persevering on your education. Whether you use it professionally or not, more education is always a good thing.
What was it like shaking Fuente's hand?
I kid.
Do you ever plan to move back to Virginia?
Not really. I don't have a relationship with my parents anymore. So only family I come up to see is in the Northern Neck and we like living in a more suburban area especially one with a little bit older population for my wife's job prospects. Florida fits those needs well.
Sorry to hear that bud, but glad your nuclear family is taking to Florida. I lived outside of Tampa for 3 years and enjoyed it quite a bit. I still miss the storms.
Who are you tagging to be it next?
Danny Coale is my spirit animal.
Good luck with that. He was my first choice when it was my turn. He never responded. I think he is too busy playing on his SteamDeck to TKP.
Then Hokie jeep maybe.
Um, sure, why not? When and what do I need to do?
I think it has to be all Star Wars memes.
Today or tomorrow. Give us a little background then answer our random questions.
What's your most fun story from KD? (I know you and I have talked about this before but I don't remember anything specific.
So so many. That place was a lot of fun to work especially when the bosses weren't looking over our shoulder. Chasing teenagers through Yogi bear cave. College day was "fun" for different reasons. Working overnight perimeter security during off season. Parties at the hotel in the parking lot. Getting food delivered from the Denny's to the guard shacks and gates. During early spring guards getting sent to work games, waterpark and rides was awesome. Actually did a month stint as a games manager at midway.
Games department?! Gross
It was awesome month. I used to hop on games then egg on guys with their girls to get them to play.
They keep walking
Or age weight game. Was good at that because people would wear veteran hats or shirts and forget or their party would give it away.
Lol I loved KD. It shaped me more than high school in many ways.
I did some stupid and semi-dangerous things in my time working on the rides before the park opened. My older self cringes when I think about those. In my time, the rides staff used to do big parties offsite at some house near the park and we also had a bunch of softball teams playing games in an internal league for the park staff.
What years did you work there and where? I vaguely knew most ride operators that where there when I was in Operations.
I also was the frontrunner of alot of those parties lol.
I was a summer employee in ride maintenance, '79 & '80.
Never mind you are from another era lol.
He was working at KD before you even existed.
On a side note why did you ignore my nomination?
I'm pretty sure we did me during covid.
And also,
Yeah, I know, I'm old now. My body let's me know that all the time. It's cool.
No question, just wanted to say hi to a fellow Cadet.
Sounds like you were a South Sider growing up - were you St. Edward's or maybe Sacred Heart, if so? (OK, I did have a question, I guess.)
My wife's not a doctor, but we also did a LD relationship for years (DC-NYC-LA), so I appreciate and admire others who made it work. Cheers.
St. Benedict's just down the street. My dad was the police chief for the Virginia Museums when they had an actual police force. Then I just stayed there when he went to work in private industry. Mom worked at MCV so dropped me off.
Ahhh....also a fellow Comet! Seems like we roamed the same mean streets of the Fan! Grew up on Hanover Avenue around the corner from St. Benedict's and across the street from BHS.
Lived at 3113 Hanover for a few years!
Jackson Ward then 25th right after they renovated the old tobacco warehouses into apartments. Bought a house over on third across 64.
Wife went to MCV. graduated in 2007.
Can almost picture that house in my minds eye....my family was 3017 Hanover for a loooooong time.
Good friends with the owners of that place now. Super nice folks - our dogs were play buds.
Yea wasnt happy when both BHS and SGHS moved out to Goochland. It's completely changed the school. I was class of '02, you?
Going to school in the museum district was a lifelong experience. Having world class museums across the street from us, only blocks away from the fan, CaryTown, Maymont. Short city bus ride away from the capital etc.
It was a great place to grow up, for sure. Many, many great memories. I was class of '79.
Have a reverse AMA for the group at large. For y'all that work in finance and budgets. HOW THE HELL DO YOU DO THIS DAY IN AND OUT? I'm losing my mind over my budget class this summer. Regression, SMA, EXS, TMA. Between this class and Hazard data analysis last spring I have a new hatred for excel.
Not finance, but the difference is easy, they get paid. There are lots of stuff that is so much easier to do when you get paid to do it.
DUUUUVAAAAL
You're probably too busy to be reading anything fun at the moment, so what's your favorite book?
If you could remove one school from existence, who and why?
Bourbon? If yes, top 3?
Has Nocatee absolutely exploded yet, or has it been a gradual expansion?
I don't have a favorite book I used to read 2-3 books a week especially when I did EMS in Richmond and we posted up. Then with my iPad Kindle I can read a few pages while waiting to pick up or drop off kids so still get about a book a week. I like historical and military fiction. Alternate history fiction based things. Fantasy especially alien or space travel.
One school. FSU so we have that Natty and I don't have to listen to the chant down here. Alternatively Liberty but it's not a real school anyway soooo.
I did a bourbon tasting on our last Disney cruise but can't tell you anything about them. After high school and a drunken year at RMC I honestly don't drink a lot unless I'm on a cruise/tropical island. Then it's frozen and mixed drinks all day.
Nocatee has just kept steadily growing, going to have 3 Publix's when the Greenwise converts to one next year. But St. John's itself has just exploded. Every open lot on north end has a house or apartment on it.
What's your plan for getting the #2 spot back on the turkey leg big board?
This is news to me. My multi step plan:
Use this gif more
Leave grad school , clearly I am not on the website enough these days.
Remove my competitor.
You keep slipping and I'll catch you.
In 30 years or so.