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Aside from Fitzgerald's suspension, other measures included no more preseason practices off campus in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and a new locker room monitor who won't report to Fitzgerald or his staff.
I don't think this is the end of this story. How can you trust a coach whose teams need a locker room monitor?
Sources: Northwestern has fired coach Pat Fitzgerald.— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) July 10, 2023
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Northwestern's AD is already walking back Fitzgerald's punishment. The lawyers are just figuring out how to make it "for cause". There is no way Fitzgerald survives this. It is too messed up and the media coverage is only getting started.
Dang. I'd just seen some headlines but finally took the time to read these articles attached. Seems like the coaching search may be starting early than normal this year.
I was convinced Brown was going to be the first coach fired this season but Fitzgerald is going to get the coaching carousel started early this year.
Saw a comment on r/cfb that Fitz has never made a bowl game without his superstar DC, implying that he's not even that great of coach.
No reason to keep Him employed.
WTF did I just read. This is terrible if true.
There are much better ways to generate camaraderie and to generate a sense of "rite-of-passage" than hazing, especially sexualized hazing. Never understood the whole frat and locker room hazing rituals.
I'm glad Pry utilizes techniques like trips to the lake house to get the team to bond.
Edit: Realized my spelling of "rite" was "right" but not in fact right.
Boys/men aged 18-22 are not well known for great decision making, added to a highly competitive sport you bring in personalities that are prone to being winner or losers and mix it with juvenile minds. It's just why as a coach or leader you need to be fully engaged in the culture of whatever your leading and it sounds like Fitz just let whatever happen as long as it didn't slide across his desk
it's worse than letting it slide, he appeared to be participating by doing the shrek clap. Whether he knew what that led to I dont know, but he gave the impression that he was in on it.
You seem to be correct, my first read through I missed the part about Fitz doing the clap. Regardless, in it or not, it's bad culture and they need to launch him, for cause
"Give him the shrek clap" turns out to be pretty close to what you'd think it would be
I remember an interview with Braves manager Brian Snitker and the reporter asked him why young players do so well with the Braves, and no hazing was part of his answer.
I'm paraphrasing, but his point was why would you want to be cruel to someone that you need to count on for the next 162 games, and if there's a new kid why wouldn't you want to do everything possible to make them feel welcome?
Puts a new spin on the "Hard Things Together" slogan that Bronco put together at UVa a few years ago
one could argue it's very much the same spin...
anyone remember "meat spin"....? I had a pretty hilarious instance of that my freshman year involving a hall mate and a 2 week Christmas vacation.
Was that SausageHokie, your other other brother?
YIKES!!!
Pat Fitzgerald to Liberty confirmed?
Really wish Fitz was at Liberty instead of Chadwell 😒
What happened to carrying the pads? Who is the sick puppy that started all these weird hazing things.
Is Brown implicated in this as well or all falling on Fitz?
It's 2023. He is going to be fired. Soon. No question. If he stays, the protests, articles, ESPN virtue signal interviews will become too much to bear anyway. He's gone.
Wow what an awful take on this situation.
How so? There's going to be (if not already) so much pressure to fire him, NW won't really be able to make the wrong choice here.
I imagine it's moot at this point; NW is just letting the lawyers do their thing before giving Fitz the ax.
The implication that just because it's 2023 and ESPN is going to "virtual signal" (what a made up BS anyway) is the only reason he is going to be fired. Not the the conduct is abhorrent and wrong no matter what year it is.
Agreed, but the reality is that abhorrent conduct was tolerated (if not encouraged) decades ago. To DC's point, it is not any more.
But not because of "virtual signaling" or protests. But because these behaviors have been brought into the public's eye.
I mean, call it what you want, but PR blunders are hurting companies in all industries. I think the point is, if NW tries to sweep this under the rug and protect their chosen son (which, I believe the would/did try), then they will be punished by the fans and media (rightfully so).
See Leach, Mike. He was fired simply from pressure based on the "outside the lines" episode where they totally overblew the situation and pretended like they were saints and Leach endorsed CTE. Comical. Leach was re-hired immediately - because common sense- and won at other places. He didn't "haze" that kid, he wasn't an "awful" human, he wasn't on the "wrong side of history" etc. Fitzgerald will be fired for "social pressure" - if that is a less triggering word for you.
Leach's lawyers are still working on getting his back bonus's and pay from Texas Tech who fired him "for cause" with no actual cause. The same Texas Tech who put him in their Hall of Fame after his death.
If that Leach stuff had happened today, then we'd be seeing a parade of personalities on every ESPN show shouting "fire him!" Along with all of the people coming out of the woodwork on social media (many of whom would have had no idea who he was or what he did prior to any of this) shouting for his job or his head.
It gets tiring after a while, because it makes it harder for the average person to actually learn anything about the actual situation.
I heard Rece Davis on SXM this afternoon, and he had a good take -- if all of this is true, then heads should roll and people should be fired. But first, let's get all of the information, and then make a decision.
Not sure if it's a legit typo, but the phrase is "virtue signaling".
You are absolutely correct, and that's a good catch, but technically, much of it was virtual.
My ducking iPhone doesn't like "virtue" apparently.
maybe your phone is trying to signal something to you?
If you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin.
ESPN is a bunch of whores. They could give a shit about the behavior. They only want drama and clicks. If ESPN actually cared they would clean their own house.
Anyone remember the allegations with the UVA wide reciever coach hosting fight club against some player that was thought to be "soft/gay"? Hell anyone remember some of the rumors around Parsons time at PSU? Who was his coach?
https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/17832652/ex-uva-receiver-allege...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportskeeda.com/amp/nfl/news-fact-check...
Yeah ESPN shouldn't have touched the Mike Leech issue at all because they employed the person making the allegations. They showed a lack of integrity with the situation.
But in all honesty it's tough to not take the accusers at their word because there are very few stories that I wouldn't believe at face value when it comes to sports. Hell there are people dead and evidence stolen from the scene of the death to cover up child rape on a football team. Look at the rest of the Big Ten, is there an athletic department that hasnt had a major scandal? Heck I don't know any boy that wasn't sexually assaulted in high school sports when i was in high school, sexual assault just wasn't in our vocabulary.
So why I tried very hard in my previous posts to not accuse or assume Fitz knew anything or that this happened, part of me wants it all to burn down because it's a fucking shit show.
My high school was not big so maybe my experience was different. There wasn't much in the way of anything sexual other than getting called names. Lots of physical bullying but that was also my school. I was on the football team but in classes with all the "nerds" so my worlds collided every so often.
I now work in a field that contributes to fact finding in criminal investigations. I'm not law enforcement. I see the media rush to publish stories that often have little facts. I have seen it first hand hurt victims and the accused. Demand investigations, not stories.
No matter what the facts might be for the alleged hazing at NW, the appearance if Fitz lost control. The statement I read said something along the lines of Fitz did not go into the locker room because it was for the players. That screams mismanagement and liability if true.
lol- you been living in your basement? come on man
This is the random Simpson's clip that pops into my head in this moment.
I read the virtue signal comment more as ESPN being disingenuous and merely laying it on to get clicks, cuz I'm sure "they" don't care. Which is what I'd expect as a borderline cynic.
And you're implying that DC doesn't think that the actions alone are abhorrent enough to warrant getting canned. Two things can be true at the same time. The actions are terrible enough on their own. AND, as Bootleg said below, ESPN is a bunch of whores.
Probably better to ask questions about DC's views than go off on a rant because of what you think he meant.
Because of the other nonsense in his comment and his long history of posts it's pretty easy to understand his feelings and views on this issue.
Exactly what nonsense are you talking about? Like I said, two things (A. The situation is terrible on its own. B. ESPN are a bunch of whores that often virtue signal and get ahead of facts in their reporting.) can be true at the same time. You're assuming he feels a certain way because he decided to point out B instead of A. Doesn't make A any less true or mean that DC feels A isn't bad enough alone.
That because of these the school will be pressured to fire him not that his actions lead to his being fired. Then to use the made up "virtue signal" BS combined with his many past posts it's pretty easy to see where his feelings about hazing and racism allegations are.
to be fair (insert gif) pat's actions (or lack thereof) led to him being suspended for two weeks after an independent investigation. it wasn't until details were published by the student newspaper that there was mounting pressure to move on from him.
edit to add: if everyone felt his actions (or lack thereof) were bad enough for him to be fired, he would have already been fired instead of suspended. but somewhere, someone decided that a two week suspension was enough
And I think in 2000 and earlier in time it would have been enough. But now college football and college itself has become such a business that if there is a threat that donors are going to pull away that harsher steps have to be taken. I don't care about the media coverage, its all about donor, research and other sources of money coming into the school.
I don't have the energy for this. You have already made up your mind about DC and you're gonna read what you want to read.
GGC hit the nail on the head. Northwestern tried to keep him employed, then more details leaked that made it impossible for NW to keep him employed.
Either you believe that NW was ignorant to the sexual hazing, and made the decision to fire Fitz as soon as it was discovered, OR you believe that NW knew about the worst of the behavior, and was only going to fire Fitz based on if the 'bad stuff' got out to the public.
I tend to believe the latter.
Fwiw Fitz is gonna sue on the latter premise too
**Assuming the allegations are true**
I would not be shocked at all if the hazing that occurred had been occurring for years, even before Fitz took the job as HC, and that he is the natural fall guy. I'm not saying that Fitz should or should not be fired as a result - I just think it is possible this culture goes deeper than Fitz and his tenure over the football team.
It calls into question who truly is responsible for the alleged culture of hazing. Did Fitz implement it? Encourage it? Try to change it? Know about it? Maybe he knew about it and ignored it? We just don't know. If it was going on before he got there, and continued while he was there, is he really the only guy who should take the axe? If he knew about it and ignored it, I'd say that he bears some responsibility but there are probably other heads that should roll. This kind of feels like a case where people above Fitz are trying to scapegoat him to protect themselves. And Fitz may very well be in the wrong in some form or another; it's also possible he's not alone in being at fault.
It is pretty tempting (natural, almost) to make snap judgements and form water-tight opinions based on the media coverage and the information that is available to us. It's easy to let emotions get involved and sway our perspective one way or the other. Heck, I had an initial reaction to the news myself, and have taken some time to reflect and realize that there's more to this situation that I don't know than there is that I do know. It is less easy to be skeptical of, and yet open to, all possibilities.
The allegations are significant and should be taken seriously. The ramifications of the allegations will be severe for some, fairly or unfairly, both in the short term and the long term. I hope that full investigations result in justice and closing for those involved but I'm not naïve enough to think this will resolve perfectly.
You know who implements hazing type things everywhere? - the NFL rookies carrying luggage and picking up dinner tabs, the hazing that still goes on at the Citadel and VMI?, the dry humping at NW? - the players- that's who, the cadets- that's who. Its NEVER the head coach or Generals/Captains in the military. its ALWAYS the right of passage recent classes that pass this down. I would be surprised if Fitz didn't know some of these things went on. I would bet a ton of money that he didn't orchestrate it or tell them to do it. These things are always player led/right of passage. The freshman on the VT football team used to have their heads shaved when they reported- mid 2000's I think
Dont go and dig yourself a hole here by pretending that "carrying luggage" and "naked car wash" are in the same stratosphere
Never said they were the same. I opined on "hazing" and how it (always) gets started
I don't think anyone will ever totally eradicate hazing. I also don't think any one individual is supremely responsible for the occurrence of hazing. Perhaps it is naïve to think this, but I do think that individuals in positions of power could affect the nature of the hazing. As a coach who came through the same system I'm sure he also experienced some form of hazing (hopefully, it wasn't sexual in nature) and understands that it exists and that he probably can't stop it from happening. I would like to think that he could draw a clear line that shouldn't be crossed and lay out the consequences for those who cross the line.
I am not suggesting that Fitz, or anyone else, really, instigated or initiated the hazing. But I do think they set the tone of the culture that is regarded as appropriate. The coaches and administrators have to set the guardrails and punish those who go beyond those boundaries.
I personally, for better or for worse, have never been subject to hazing so I'm viewing this from the outside, admittedly.
I think a head coach could absolutely shut down hazing completely if they wanted to. The question is, are they willing to lay down the law and dole out the punishments necessary to make it happen, even if that comes at the expense of on-field results/competitiveness of the team? IMO, a good head coach should have the courage/moral authority to do that. And the school admin should support it.
FWIW at least occasionally, thiis cycle CAN be broken. My parents were both USAF enlisted who attended OCS in the mid 50s at Lackland AFB near San Antonio TX. (Mom was one class ahead of dad-staggered 3 month classes I believe, As is often the case in many setups like that, each class is hazed/treated badly by the one just ahead of it in time. Both my parents classes broke that tradition and did not in any way mistreat the following class despite having experienced it themselves from previous underclassmen. It CAN be done- but it takes strenth of character... a trait both my parents had in spades and passed on to us-their kids.
The head coach may not have implemented the hazing rituals, but as the "general" in this case he is responsible for the conduct of his players. It doesn't matter who started it, he is the one in charge and thus responsible for its continuation under his tenure.
In my time in the Corps of Cadets real hazing was rare. Generally it was an isolated case of one or two cadets getting carried away. The Corps leadership made it clear that hazing was not to be tolerated by anyone and it would be harshly punished. Particularly if sexual harassment was involved.
If it had been found that a company's leadership was aware of hazing and turned a blind eye they would have been removed from their positions of leadership and likely disciplined in other ways.
Hazing, sexual harassment, and alcohol violations were all subject to an automatic Executive Committee trial (the VTCC equivalent to a court martial). They could not be handled at any lower disciplinary level, which pretty much any other regulation violation could be.
I tell you this to illustrate that while the people in charge may not initiate hazing rituals, they are responsible for creating an environment where they are not tolerated, and everyone in the organization from top-to-bottom knows it.
Let's say that one of the practices discussed in the article reminded me of a "tradition" that took place occasionally in E-Frat back in the day (not my company, but I lived near them). Thinking back about that makes me cringe. I hope the practice of "humping" has been gone for a while.
For sure, it's hard to regulate actions that aren't reported. You just have to stress to your leaders that it isn't acceptable and go scorched earth on violations. Make sure there's a mechanism for anonymous reporting and zero tolerance for retaliation. It's not easy, but it's important. I conducted several harassment investigations my Jr and Sr year in the Corps, and I know at least one guy who got away with it because there was no proof and no witnesses.
That being said, you have to ask questions, you have to be vigilant, you have to monitor behavior. Fitzgerald doesn't seem to have done any of that, which is why I think his proclaimed ignorance of the situation is still a fireable offense. Probably a whole bunch of other dudes should be scrolling through LinkedIn as well from both the coaching staff and administration. No way this went on for 20 years and no one said anything to anyone.
I am E99. My class strived to make sure "humping" which was essentially a pile on died with our class. We along with E97, E98, & E2000 endeavored to leave the entire E-Frat shtick in the past.
I mean it's one thing for hazing to start with another coach and continue with a new one and doing so for 17 years without noticing. I am not saying Fitz knew about it, but its even worse if this had been going on for 17 years and he didn't know about it.
I wouldn't be surprised if it existed back in the 1993-1996 timeframe, which is when Fitzgerald played there. Would explain the report saying that there was no evidence that he knew about what was going on, but knew enough to do the clapping thing. If he knew it existed from personal experience as a player, but it never got to come across his desk as a coach, then that might explain the dichotomy.
This occurred to me as well. Also, its possible that the "Shrek clap" existed when Fitz was playing but the sexual aspect of the hazing developed later. So Fitz may have intended to identify players for hazing but in his mind he imagined the type of hazing that he went through (which could have excluded sexual harassment). There are just a lot of unknowns
Welp, he was suspended for two weeks AFTER a 6 month investigation. Then, nothing new comes out, except for it being blasted on twitter, etc and boom a 17 year alum and best coach they had is fired. NOTHING new came from the investigation. So yep, 2023 mob virtue signaling changed a 2 week suspension to his termination. YOu can spout bullshit about my "posting history"- so fucking tired, but in this case, I told you what was going to happen yesterday and it did.
I don't know if it's "mob virtue signaling" as much as "wait-- a two week suspension and not fired????"
Maybe - but the president read the investigation and suspended him two weeks. No new facts came out- except the fact it made it to twitter via the student newspaper. The mob is undefeated.
nothing you're saying is indicating that the mob was virtue signaling. is there a difference between "virtue signaling" and "placating the mob"? i think there is. Like gthunter said upthread -- the firing is definitely a PR move. that doesn't mean it's virtue signaling.
OK, I will use a less triggering term moving forward.
It's not a matter of triggering. You used the wrong term to describe the situation.
FWIW Schill said that he had spoken with both the accuser and his parents over the weekend and that helped lead him to the decision.
From ESPN:
It is somewhat surprising the president did not speak directly to the parents or student involved in the initial investigation before making that initial decision to suspend him for two weeks.
Not to me. They "investigated", came to a conclusion, and moved forward hoping everyone would forget about it and the next thing in the news would take over.
Exactly. They tried to avoid public scrutiny for the extremely light suspension by using the old Friday Afternoon News Dump. That doesn't work so well anymore.
lol no its not... whether you or others think it's right or wrong, (unfortunately) that's the world we live in
Interesting call out - ACC Commish James Phillips was the Northwestern AD during the time of these allegations
Very interesting. The usual pattern for these types of situations, unfortunately, is that if the head football coach knows, the AD is also aware. If that proves to be the case here, it will be interesting to see what the ACC does. Not to blend the 2, because they are completely unrelated, but he's been pretty underwhelming as the commissioner. I don't see there being much of a push to keep him if any of the powers that be want him out because of this.
If Fitz goes, he gone. Or the ACC style hypocrisy continues (which wouldn't surprise me either).
I think the ACC's only move will be to punish him by dissolving the GoR and letting us go to the SEC. That'll teach him!
Can you imagine how incredibly weak the ACC would be after all this revenue gap and Mag 7 talk, with members publicly voicing their displeasure, and the league commissioner gets caught up in an embarrassing scandal like this or steps down? To be fair I haven't really liked Phillips much either and thought his media days comments last year were so out of touch. But if he was in any way involved with the stuff at NW that is absolutely disgusting.
From the co-editor in chief of the northwestern sbnation site
While I have little disagreement with Fitzgerald getting fired based on what was alleged (and investigated appropriately by the University), I do have issue with these types of "sniper" stories that come out in their wake.
This is thinly sourced, notes that the referenced incident happened during an Offseason workout (which Fitzgerald may have not even been present for) and doesn't clarify if there was ever any report was made to coaching staff or the Athletic Dept at NW.
Fitzgerald at the very least was asleep at the wheel here, but trying to imply he is racist without any sort of concrete evidence seems quite unfair.
Counterpoint: once the first allegations are made public other people finally feel free to speak out without fear of retaliation
Then make a public statement with all the relevant details.
Per the report, this anonymous player last played in 2009. He's long since graduated and the coach is now fired and disgraced...there's little to reason to believe Fitzgerald could get retribution at this point.
I will never tell a victim what the appropriate way to come forward is. There is still a stigma and potential consequences for speaking out
It's not even clear that this person was the "victim" or if they simply overheard what was said or if they reported it to anyone at all.
From the minimal details that are provided all that is clear was that one NW player allegedly made a racist comment to another during an offseason session. The slant of the article is a thin implication that Fitzgerald has racist tendencies.
Rights work both ways..victims certainly deserve the ability to report without fear of retribution but the accused also deseve some level of transparency before having their reputation dragged through the mud when it's not even clear what (if any) role they had with the event.
And when there is the potential for a lawsuit, you never come out with ALL the details up front.
You the public aren't owed anything. If Fitz is clean and not guilty of any of this, the inner circle coaching fraternity will know. If he isn't clean, they also will know that.
Yeah, bringing this up 12 years after the fact taints its credibility for me. Just saying
You're certainly entitled to your own viewpoint on someone bringing something up after a long period of time but I'll also share mine.
I can definitely empathize with being bothered by something for almost two decades but not being brave enough to be the person that steps forward about it. Then, learning it was reported, investigated, and a paltry reprimand was handed out? That might cause me to make a phone call that I wasn't previously willing to make.
I think this is a very fair perspective, and probably one that many people have experienced in various ways.
And... He's gone.
Sad to see Northwestern buckle under the immense pressure of ESPN's virtue signaling /s
Boys will be boys /s
I mean, either he knew it was going on and allowed it in which case he should be fired, or he didn't know it was going on at all and he's bad at his job and should be fired.
I think this is the main reason right now. Lack of control.
yo, i get hazing can run the spectrum of various things but this type of sexual degradation is just mad gross and f-ing lame for a football team. There were a few things at a very low, similar level that my HS FB team would do but this shit is beyond borderline.
Hazing is not okay especially when it starts getting into the sexual harassment/assault realm.
But does anyone honestly think Fitz was out there telling guys "y'all better be sus with those new freshmen". Is there evidence of this even being reported to him? Not saying he's necessarily in the right, this just completely goes against his decades long reputation as a coach I'm not ready to bury the guy off one accusation.
Also Bronco openly encouraged this type of shit too and never got punished
Reports of a whiteboard in the middle of the locker room with the Shrek list or something like that for things like naked bear crawls.
There are also reports by current players that also say this is flatly untrue.
Of course, the former whistleblower says anybody who denies his reports was a collaborator or instigator.
Not sure who to true, but it looks like there was a lot of smoke for no fire.
Duplicate
He had to take that action and if the investigation actually cleared him (as stated) he might win the case.
I have a former co-worker who's son did one year at NW as a redshirt and then transferred out to a D2 school I think (he did get a rull ride out of HS). I will just say that this was within the last 10 years. I remember talking about it at work when his son transferred and he was pretty disappointed, said he just didn't want to be up there because it was too cold and wanted to come back to Texas.
I texted him yesterday to see if he had heard about Fitzgerald getting fired and he seemed totally surprised. He said he hadn't heard anything about it and would have to look up the story. Who knows if some of this stuff was going on that played a part in his kid deciding to leave the program. Maybe his kid never said anything about it and just wanted to leave, or maybe his dad did know and is just not saying anything (understandable), or maybe there was no issue at all with him so there was nothing to report.
I think this was a rush to judgement considering the school had already conducted a private investigation into the matter and gave a 2 week suspension. Going by Northwestern's logic wouldn't the entire staff have to be relieved of duty since the hazing took place under their supervision? Will be interesting to see what kind of coaching candidates they can find this close to start of practice.
Per Fitz's tweet/lawyers letter, that investigation said he was innocent. Going to be interesting to see where this goes forward. A lot of current/former players are going to need to publicly weigh in to clear his reputation if it can be.
My understanding is that the investigation did not find material evidence that he was aware of the hazing. I'm not sure innocent is the term I would use there, as I doubt the HC of a football program was completely unaware of this, but he is going to sue and use that part of the investigation to his advantage. It's likely a difficult task to prove he "knew" about it, legally speaking.
As to the second part, many former and current players have come out in support of him already. I'm not sure how much weight that will hold legally. It's certainly far from an area of expertise for me.
True, innocent was stretching it. Unaware is probably a closer description. NW used the buck stops there as a right to fire him. The article does not say if they are trying to use the "for cause" to avoid paying him the rest of his salary. He is probably suing to make sure the remainder of his 10 year 57 million dollar salary is paid.
I'm glad Coach Smitty was only there one season before heading to the Cardinals.
If you want a similar situation, look at the Maryland "investigation" and subsequent firing of DJ Durkin.
Totally forgot that Ryan Smith landed at Northwestern as CB coach after the 2021 season....
I thought he left after a season and went to the NFL?
Yeah, cardinals since february
Some really impressive reporting by The Athletic, tracing the hazing traditions back 20ish years.
You mean it wasn't the woke mob that made up issues to get him fired!
https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/luke-decock/articl...
How many lawsuits is too many for Phillips to stay on as head of the ACC? Just announced a third one tonight.
His media day appearance tomorrow is going to be a disaster.
It has to be cancelled somehow, right?
I haven't seen anybody report on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if another ACC official shows up because "something came up" on Phillips' schedule or he'll do a quick thing about the future of the ACC and offer no Q&A and GTFO.
On the other hand it just doesn't seem like a good idea for anyone involved to allow him to take questions, so keeping with goACC tradition he'll be scheduled an hour long session with 45min of questions.
It's going to be the first one. Prepared speech on how everything is going great and off stage.
Phillips will just run out quickly and tell us the ACC has never been better, nothing to see here.
He should come right out and announce a new $1B TV deal. That would certainly take the focus off him
Announce that The ACC is rebranding to 𝕏
As an aside, I will always say the 2 biggest missed opportunities in our gameday experience in Lane while I was a student was
1 - Not having the band play the horn/drum beat from Ludacris' Move Bitch after every big run during the Suggs, Jones, Humes, Imoh, Williams, Evans, Wilson, etc era....
2 - Not having the band play the horn/drum beat from DMX's X Gon Give it to Ya after every big play by Xavier Adibi