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Coaches already working on '25.
First, "THE HYPHEN LIVES!!!!"
Second, I totally read that list of fundamentals without zooming in and wondered why "mortality" made the list...
Just spent way too much time looking for a full game replay of 2009 BC @ VT where after a big JG-W highlight the announcer calls him a cyclops... I think he meant cyborg? Or something?
Anyway... dude was a specimen.
We will devote August recruiting to the signing of Chris cole...
Aaaaaaand? ;^)
https://www.on3.com/db/milton-ferguson-152261/
https://247sports.com/player/milton-ferguson-46127630/
Keylen Adams's high school teammate
ESPN rates him another top 10 VA prospect
No disrespect to him but unless the services are wrong I'd be surprised we take a scholly for a lower rated DB right now if its true that Mekhi White isn't a take due to numbers
We've got so many dbs already I'd bet our only take left at that position is if we flip Zahir Rainer
Do we know Mekhi White isn't a take?
It's a fair question, we spent a lot of time talking about whether of not we should be. Not sure anyone outside of the staff knows whether or not he is
Chris Cole with two more cb's to UGA : (
Haven't we known this for months?
Well, since they just got cb'd in the last 12 hours, i guess not
That he was headed out of state most likely to UGA.
We did, but I still allowed myself a small glimmer of hope. That's my bad.
There's been a lot of talk that we weren't the favorite, but we were in it and had a legit shot.
Sooo this mean we have room for Mehki White now?
Actually, I think we are using that scholly for Cole Beck.
I mean, if I was offered a legit spot at Georgia right now, I wouldn't turn it down. National titles? Check. NFL factory? Check. Athens a legit awesome college town? Check. 🤷🏻♂️
Anyone in the know hearing if the whole college football realignment and the ACC teams getting left further and further behind/possibly ending up like WSU, Cal, etc. is causing any problems with recruiting for us? Guessing no as things still seem pretty good. But concerned this could become a bigger impediment in the next few years.
I do think that, long term, our biggest recruiting hurdle is the fact we're in the ACC - an all-but-dead league. The sooner we get out, the better. I'm with DC on this. We should just bolt and figure out the details later. The long term costs of staying the league for another 13 years is far far steeper than whatever the short term costs would be of getting out of the league
I don't know. The cost to get out, to actually buy our way out of the GoR, is so steep, that who knows if the financial landscape will still be the same by the time we pay it off? We may be banking on future earnings that may not exist.
If we get the chance to move without bankrupting ourselves, then yeah, make the move. But I don't think that buying our way out is the right call.
120million exit fee (may be able to negotiate down), grant of rights is issue it cost Texas 100 million for ONE year, we are looking at 13 years so let's say it's at 50 million a year that's 650,000,000 so you looking at around 700 MILLION to get out today.
This gets repeated a lot, but how is the league all but dead? Because a few million disparity in TV money? Give me a break. Our conference can still beat half the teams that are supposedly in another tier. This is a tired narrative that isn't all that true, but maybe people will repeat it till it is. I certainly won't help it along.
Also the idea that it hurts recruiting is a total head scratcher to me. Hearing from people plugged into recruiting and a few recruits and family members, the only conference based advantage is the perception that the SEC has the best talent and it's your best chance of making the league. This wasn't really true for a long time, but people repeated it until it was. The SEC has had better talent since the mid 2000's, but it was mostly marginal. You could still line them up against an ACC or Big 12 teams without them looking all that different. I would argue that the disparity was not that great until around 2017/18. Now it's absolutely true, especially at the top of the conference, but even the mid and lower tier have surprisingly decent rosters. But you absolutely can not draw a direct line from TV money to that recruiting advantage (it's promotion and something that gets repeated enough that people think it's true). Furthermore the Big 10 does not have that recruiting advantage and they have always made significantly more TV money than the SEC
This was a pretty strong reaction. I confess that I've jumped onto the bandwagon of folks saying that the ACC is sinking because we're getting lapped by the SEC and B1G in terms of TV revenue. I think you're downplaying the importance of that revenue but I do agree that the SEC wasn't head and shoulders better than everyone else 10 years ago when
everyoneESPN said they were. ESPN was clearly invested in the SEC a decade+ ago, and they promoted the league for a decade+, and they successfully manifested the reality that the SEC is, now, over a decade later, head and shoulders better than everyone else.The money matters. Maybe it's chicken and egg but the reason that the SEC is promoted by ESPN is because that is where ESPN has the most vested interest. They need the SEC to be the top dog for their bottom line. So of course they're going to promote the league and tell everyone who will listen that it's the most dominant league on the planet. Regardless of whether or not that was actually true when they started saying it, they made it true because of the money. The ACC just isn't ever going to get the promotion you desire because the ACC isn't getting the same investment. In fact, the investments into the SEC and B1G continue to dwarf those of the ACC, which is why folks are saying that the ACC is basically dead. We're being left behind financially, which will negatively impact the promotion and perception of the league, which will lead to recruits looking elsewhere. Recruits need to be on teams that get promoted. If they believe that they're not going to get maximum exposure in the ACC, they're not going to come to the ACC. That's just how things work.
I'm not totally sure what you mean by this. If by "another tier" you are referring to the SEC and B1G then, I have news for you. The ACC went 6-11 against those two leagues in 2022. Basically, the conference won about 1/3rd of their games against teams that are "supposedly in another tier". Not 1/2. 1/3. And that disparity has been growing over the years. The more money the SEC and B1G get, the better promotion they get, the more the perception shifts that they are the best, the harder it's going to be for the ACC to win any games. In 10 years, the ACC will be winning 1/10th of those matchups.
You quite clearly understand part of what is happening - you just haven't made the connection to the dollars. That perception has shifted because of the investment into the SEC. The SEC isn't getting all that money because they are good. They are good because they are getting all that money. The money comes first. That is the problem. The ACC is being starved for cash, meanwhile, other leagues are signing huge deals and the ACC is stuck in mud. The ramifications of that will truly be felt a decade down the line.
Yes, exactly. There is a lag. The ACC may not be that far behind RIGHT NOW, but in 10 years, it'll be stark. You will watch that happen and there's nothing that can be done to stop it. That's what we're all screaming about. It's not that the ACC is done and dusted right now, but the ACC is completely stuck while the SEC and B1G slingshot past us and all we can do is sit under our dumb, low yield, contract for the next 13 years and watch as the conference falls into irrelevance.
You're so close to seeing it that it's maddening. Where does the TV money come from? The TV companies. What do the TV companies do? They air the games and hire the "talent" to cover the games and the teams and create the narratives. The TV companies are going to have a vested interest in promoting the teams/leagues where they've put the heaviest investments. The SEC and B1G will get a lot better. The promotion of those two leagues in particular is going to ramp up. The TV companies are seriously interested in making sure those two leagues get the best resources, receive the most favorable coverage and benefit from a shift in perception, which can be orchestrated by said TV companies. That perception shift will manifest in a very tangible and real shift of talent to the B1G and SEC. It will take time. It's not going to happen over night. But it is going to happen. 8 year old kids who are watching Fox or ESPN for the next 10 years are going to see and hear that the SEC and B1G are the best football leagues. Everything else is an afterthought. By the time they graduate high school and are ready to commit to a college to play football to try developing enough to reach the NFL and achieve their dreams, they're going to choose Vanderbilt over UVA every single time.
I hope you're not referring to G5, but I'm afraid that you might be.
LOL..I hadn't considered that as an option. I doubt that's what he means - because if beating only half of the teams in a "lower" tier is a bragging point then the ACC is on life support, if not already dead, which would be counter to his whole argument.
The fear is that the ACC is blockbuster, and the B10/SEC are Netflix. ACC isn't dead yet, but it doesn't look good.
My question is this, where is the money going to come from when these big deals for the Big Ten and SEC are up? I think a lot of folks are thinking they are just going to go higher and higher, but I think we've already seen the bubble start to burst with the Pac 10
That is my concern. If we jump ship and buy our way out of the GoR, who's to say that the money will be there in the next contract to recoup that buyout? Would we be taking on a crippling amount of debt on the promise of future returns that may not materialize?
In what way are ACC teams actually "getting left behind"? Honestly that whole narrative is a bunch of bullshit. Sure the top teams in the SEC/Big 10 are extending their lead over everyone else, but the idea a few million more from TV is going to pull teams like Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland, even Kentucky, Ole Miss, or Missouri ahead of good ACC teams is sensationalist. The only actual advantage any of those teams have is the "talent goes to the SEC" perception in recruiting. That has everything to do with promotion and nothing to do with TV money.
The only ACC teams actually getting "left behind" are the ones not spending to win in football. Boston College, Georgia Tech, UVA, and to some extent Duke, Syracuse, Wake and Pitt. And $10-20 mil more in TV wouldn't make a world of difference for them.
that's fair. I mean, $10million more to LOLUVa just means they build a nicer squash practice facility.
Well, they need something to complement the updated croquet facility.
And state of the art quiltmaking complex
And continuing to improve their stellar" social media/marketing teams!
Mekhai White announcing commitment tonight 7 PM EST...this may already be widely known but FYI
I didn't know it. Thanks for sharing. Guess we'll find out if he's a take after all. Although I suppose there's always that awkward situation where a guy gets up on stage, puts on the hat, and says, "I'll be furthering my football and academic career at Such-and-such University" and then the University says
Already scored a CB to Maryland today...looks like the narrative of not getting top in state guys is back on lol /s
Would be surprised if he picked VT based on the lack of smoke around the situation and this commitment seemingly catching most (all?) of us by surprise.
Maybe someone VT can double back on and push for him before ESD if they so choose.
I assume he changed his mind when he read he wasnt a take on tkp /s
Good thing this type of thing is behind a paywall now so recruits can't get influenced by us!
Aaaaaaand, he's gone. Not giving up my #KG2VT dreams just yet, though.
I will come on here an be the first to eat crow if White redshirts, plays special teams then transfers out at Maryland. I will be the first to come on here and say I was wrong. But I stand by the fact that VT made a mistake here. You sign as many good skill people as you can when your offense is ranked 128th and scores 2 TDs on average per game in modern CFB. You sign as many skill people as you can if you are serious about winning. This was a mistake. I will say that until White is on his 3rd program in 4 years and playing at liberty.
bookmarking this post and setting myself an alarm for end of season (repeating yearly).
Agreed
You're not wrong even if he does transfer and end up at Liberty. Hindsight is 20/20 in recruiting.
We don't have the horses to justify turning a kid like this away. I love 99% of what Pry is doing, but as the new coach he has the ability to walk kids out even if they don't want to transfer. You can't tell me that this kid isn't better than some of the guys we've got on scholarship right now. Young or old.
What if White is good, but the other recruits in this class are just as good/better?
Then we will score more than 13 points on offense a game and perhaps be ranked in the top 90. Maybe
Well I think the rationale for turning him away (assuming that he truly wasn't a take) was because the staff likes the current receivers in this class better than him. If in two years, we have 4 Division 1, Power [whatever we're at] level receivers that we can put on the field, then I don't think anybody will be mad.
My heartburn is that we don't take White because we like our receivers, optimistically half of them have productive careers as Hokies and half transfer out. Then this year we'll use the spot that could've went to White to flip a lineman from a G5 school on signing day and he never plays a meaningful snap.
So if you have a player that has a good probability to project to a ACC level contributor (which is what White's recruiting ranking indicates), then we're not in a position to turn them down.
My heartburn is that I watched our offense last year. I would take any and all 4 star talent on that side of the ball. But that's just me
Would you rather add a receiver or a lineman?
" I would take any and all 4 star talent on that side of the ball."
I don't have a clue whether we should or shouldn't have had
LewisWhite as a take. But I'll say this.....a 5* receiver doesn't catch anything if the QB is underneath 295 lbs of DL. A 3* WR might make a catch if the QB is upright and has time to throw.edit: Got the name wrong....shows you how much attention I pay to recruiting!
Didn't we already derail an entire thread with this conversation? He went somewhere else, we don't know one way or the other if he was a take for us and projecting future achievements is fantasy. I wish him well and I hope that he has a successful career as long as its never against us.
Seriously, just start a Mekhai White vent thread and take it over there so we can stick to well-reasoned discussions over here.
So basically, you don't think we have enough depth at WR? And presumably, you think correcting our WR depth is more important than addressing personnel gaps on the OL, or any other position, right?
I would prefer a 4 star OL (or other position of need) over a 4 star WR at this point. But I don't think that's what the two options are right now.
It seems like we turned down a 4 star WR to better address a position of need, which theoretically makes sense. But my hunch (having no sources or recruiting connections) is that the mystery hypothetical player will not be the level of recruit that White is. So we're turning down a player with a good chance to be a contributor for a complete unknown, which likely will not actually address personnel gaps on the OL or other critical positions.
To answer the question on WR depth, I don't think any position group on this team is so good that we can be turning away 4 star talent.
Edit: and i understand the absurdity of this entire conversation because there's a strong chance neither White nor [mystery player to be named later] become multi year starters. Thus is college athletics and off-season recruiting discussions, but given that recruiting rankings are supposed to indicate the likelihood of a player being successful at the next level, my preference would've been to take a player with White's ranking.
LOL. We had one good WR last year. Grand total of one. I guess that has changed?
Yes... yes it has. We got two proven FBS WR's in Ali Jennings (2265 career receiving yards) and Jaylin Lane (1528 career receiving yards). A third transfer in DaQuan Felton who is drawing rave reviews from the coaches so far, but we will see if that comes to fruition.
In last year's recruiting class we added Chance Fitzgerald (90 rated 4* by 247) and Ayden Greene (89 rated 3* by 247, the same as Mekhai White). Additionally, we added two 86's in Takye Heath and Marcell Baylor.
In this recruiting class we have Keylen Adams (90 rated 4* by 247) and Chanz Wiggins (87 rated 3* by 247, viewed as higher on our board than White by the staff).
So yes, it has changed a lot.
Jennings and Lane instantly improve things a ton from last year. Agreed. Smith was our only legit WR. Dwain Lofton is too small- and that showed. If Lofton is the 4-5th option, then yes we have improved quite a bit. I look forward to seeing these new names translate into production/.scoring.
Until they show out on the field, though, it's just projection. Fitzgerald and Green haven't proven anything yet. White is rated higher than Heath and Baylor. And Adams and Wiggins are unproven as well.
Don't get me wrong. It's a nice problem to have, but you still take talent when talent is available.
Edit: wrong thread.
don't start this again -- this argument is stupid and, while a fact, has no bearing on the conversation!
But it's not just this class. We got 4 receivers in the '23 class we haven't seen yet, 3 receivers from the portal, and 2 more in the '24 class. That's 9 new guys.
And don't forget, not taking White doesn't mean we don't look at how our receivers do this year and rotate some out (of the program) if they don't work and pull in some others from the portal (that we have the benefit of having seen actually accomplish something n college).
Plus, I heard we will be lining up Beck as a receiver /s
I'm not saying I disagree with you, but clearly roster management has been a significant issue at VT for the last few years. I think Pry is in the terribly unfortunate situation of not having the freedom and flexibility to do what you are suggesting, at least not right now. He has gaps to fill and needs to manage things in a very strategic way.
Just my two cents
I think this is a huge part of his strategy. And if he needs more receivers than what he's got and developing, I'd guess he uses the portal more strategically than his predecessor, so we may not see classes looking the exact way we think.
Do you have a link to where anyone from our recruiting or coaching staff said we didn't want White? If you're going to spend years nursing a grudge about one player we didn't sign, I assume you'd make sure that we actually turned him away, right? Because I haven't seen anything from our staff saying our WR room was full or that we didn't want him. I've seen message board posters in here say that, but it would be pretty nonsensical to hold our coaching staff accountable for what some random dude on the internet said. I know you like to get spun up over arguments where you feel righteous, but I feel like this is an argument you're having with yourself.
Thanks for the reality check. I can't have an opinion on here or participate on the threads. I can't respond with my opinion on White. Great. Always good to be humbled. thanks
You said that White wanted to come to Tech and our staff told him no because our WR room was full. You said that you didn't like that decision by our staff and would call them out if he's successful elsewhere. If it's true they turned him down then your opinion is totally fine, take the coaches to task for their bad decision.
My post was not questioning your opinion. Nowhere did I disagree with what you posted. My point was that I haven't seen it written anywhere but this message board that White wanted Tech and we told him no. You've been posting all over TKP that our staff is messing up and that we should have taken White, but I haven't seen anyone other than you saying we turned him down.
So I asked for a link. Your whole little self-righteous crusade about White has been based on the assertion that our staff told him no, but I haven't seen that written by anyone reputable.
Prove it.
Also, I did not downvote you since I know that you also like to whine about that.
Never said that first sentence anywhere. full stop.
You are upset with our coaches for not taking White.
The only reason to be upset with the coaches is if you believe it was their decision not to take him.
Logically, if it was their decision and not his, then he must have wanted to come to Tech. Otherwise, how is the staff responsible for him not coming to Tech?
I guess you could feel they didn't recruit him hard enough, however that once again is just based on pure conjecture and not any actual real information.
Unless you have a link.
My last post on this topic. No-my premise was- you take white and not worry about the 4th safety on scholarship- you make the numbers work. I never said I was upset with Pry etc. My only logic all along was- the offense sucks, take a 4 star playmaker from Va and make the numbers work. I was in fact dismissing "we are full"- yes - but I never said I was mad at Pry or anyone else.
Fair enough. If I misunderstood your comments I apologize. I thought your comment here was meant to call our staff out for their failure to sign White.
For the record, I don't disagree with you that we could have used him. Just don't know that we ever had him.
You implied it here.
You also explicitly stated that "VT made a mistake" by not signing White. Again, if White didn't want to come to Tech, then what mistake was made? You don't think that your comments didn't imply that White wanted to come to Tech and we turned him down?
White had asked Chanz Wiggins over twitter "where we going?" I think we're all assuming that the two high school teammates wanted to play together at the next level. Since White went elsewhere, it's further assumed that he was not able to commit to VT along with Wiggins. Not too much of a stretch to assume that, IM(ns)HO.
#KG2VT
That's a whole lot of assumptions.
Technically, it's one assumption, that (A) Mekhi White wanted to play college ball with Chanz Wiggins. If you assume A is correct, then (B) White was not allowed to commit to Tech along with Wiggins is a given, not an assumption.
It has been mentioned by TSL staff on one of their podcasts
Matej Sis also said on the Boundary Corner podcast that White wanted to come here but was not a take at the moment due to scholarship limits.
He is one of the most plugged in reporters when it comes to recruiting and is usually pretty spot on with his predictions.
Not to fan the flames, but do we know that we turned him away? He did have a commitable offer to us at one time and chose not to commit, correct? I would really like to know for certain that he wanted to commit to us and we recommended he look elsewhere before we burn the house down if he develops into a good player.
Apparently our WR room is full
I've seen that mentioned on here, but do we know that this was communicated to White? Did we in fact keep him from committing to us? Haven't seen that confirmed.
Nobody knows anything, it's all purely speculation by a handful of message board warriors. Won't stop certain people from judging our coaching staff for years to come based on some shit they made up in their heads and a pretend internet fight.
Nobody has a direct line to the staff but the general smoke of boards and twitter (including his own tweets and interactions) indicated that we had a good shot at him.
Then people on here who are generally trustworthy sources started saying he wasn't a take and a few weeks later he stops posting Hokie stuff and starts doing the same thing with Maryland commits. Then commits to Maryland soon after.
Now all the smoke and anyone that usually has info is saying that he wasn't a take here and he went to Maryland. Can't say with 100% certainty but when everyone is saying the same thing decent chance it's true. Id say it's equally proven as stuff like Kill punching Cornelson or Willis breaking the bottle over Bradburn's head.
He was not a take. Tried to commit to the staff multiple times, including on his OV and right before he announced his commitment to Maryland. There is an issue between he and a current commit that we were not able to smooth over so to avoid losing said commit we turned White away. We are still evaluating and entertaining the idea of taking another WR/DB type so the issue wasn't that we didnt have room, rather that White wasnt a "fit" here
Thank you for the clarification, and I sincerely hope this puts this issue to bed...finally.
I cannot tell you how much I value these insights
Whatever was going on, I'm glad we avoided what sounds like a serious bad blood issue. Hope both players do well in their respective locations.
Unacceptable. We should never turn away a top 10 VA player. rabble rabble rabble /sssssssss
I, for one, am glad the coaches are confident enough to avoid a locker room cancer like the ones that kneecapped us at the end of the Beamer era/throughout the Fuente era. Also, a good lesson for these young men: if you can't find a way to reconcile and move on, there will be consequences. For the vast majority of people with issues, the world won't put up with your BS because we all have shit to do and aint nobody got time for that.
dont think there's anything here to suggest categorically that white is/would be a locker room cancer. it is entirely possible that the "problem" is another player higher on our board and if we could only have one, it wasn't white.
basically there's two sides to every story and it's possible the coaches "sided" with the guy that was 1) already in the boat and/or 2) higher on the board
Fair enough. I mean, you could say the cancer would be this unresolved conflict, but yeah that would change the tone of things since it might not be White's fault, per se, but he is the one not getting to go to the school he wants to. That would be a less good situation because it means the one throwing the hissy is the one getting the protection of the coaches at the expense of the innocent player. Crossing my fingers this is not the case.
I think it's a mutual thing but I'll also say that there is a reason why White tried to commit to multiple different high P5 schools and ended up at Maryland instead
Fair, thanks for clarifying
Thanks for the info, folks. That's what I was looking for, sorry for my contributions to the slap fight above.
He was certainly one of our top WR targets, but unfortunately we only have so much room on the roster. Currently on pace to be like 12 scholarships over the limit in 2024 if everyone with eligibility were to return .
From what I've read/heard, White tried to commit to VT a while back and we wouldn't take his commit at that time.
The coaches clearly like White, but they like Adams and Wiggins at least slightly more.
He wasn't as high on the board as Adams and Wiggins and we don't have room for a ton of WR in this class. If we had room, he'd be a Hokie. Hopefully he has a nice career at MD, meanwhile Adams and Wiggins re-write the record books in Blacksburg.
If we do wind up with an extra scholly in December or February, I still think it goes somewhere besides another WR.
Hey look, 20 new comments in the recruiting thread! There must be important news.
...opens thread...
Ah fuck.
Seriously, can we just auto lock any thread that brings up Mekhai White now??
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Yoooo!! You just changed everything for me. Did not know this was a thing
How did it take so long for me to know this was a thing???
Thank you kind sir!
Wow. Thank you! Gamechanger.
How do you "collapse" a thread on this website? Showing my website ineptitude.
When I do this, it literally fades out everything except for the one comment I click the button for...
I think you're hitting the toggle switch not the "V".
Oof...thanks
We've all been there, or at least I have.
just remember that when you click the "V" the thread collapses like Virginia's football team
Where is the button where I can Venmo Joe $5 to up vote this comment +50 legs?
YES!!!! I'd hit that also!
Ah an instant revenue stream that doesn't require members.
Here's another 5 bucks to upvote 50.
Is this Mike Elkos spy account?
Different "Elko", I can assure you. Hokie graduate here.
How you think Tenn got the Hendon Hooker line.
Looking forward to 2025, I got hit with the "oh God, I'm old. "
It looks like DeAngelo Hall's son is an athlete in the 2025 class according to On3
Pry keeps saying 2025 is our year.
Ah. Like any true Hokie.
"20XX (usually 1-2 years from whatever year we're currently in) is our year."
https://www.on3.com/db/terrance-edwards-111343/
https://247sports.com/player/terrance-edwards-46109987/
that is...quite the assortment of schools.
Oklahoma's the only real outlier there.
Most everybody else is either in a state that is on the Atlantic or was once in a state on the Atlantic.
I think it's also the range of the quality of programs, from the lowest of P5 (UVA/BC) to highest of P5 (Clemson/OU).
TIL that Kentucky was once on the Atlantic.
Edit: Yes, I replied in the wrong spot. I'll drink to that.
Pretty sure (part of?) Kentucky was part of VA at one point so his math checks out
We're still (mostly) in the Eastern Timezone, damnit!
It used to be part of Virginia before splitting and becoming its own state. Same with West Virginia.
Still trying to figure out Pennsylvania though since it's bordered by Delaware, the Delaware River, and New Jersey to the east/southeast.
And the Delaware River Bone is connected to the Atlantic Bone
So bordering a river means you're "on" the body of water it flows to?
Well good to know Ohio is on the Gulf.
New conference realignment proposal: We just use the continental divide.
That basically gives you the PAC 10 on one side and everyone else. Second divide at the Mississippi, then for everything east of THAT, the mason Dixon line. Separates us from Cuse, Pitt and BC and into a TRUE southeastern conference.
There's two continental divides though, the Rockies of Atlantic/Pacific and Appalachian of Atlantic/Gulf
Eh- I would dispute the second- the Gulf ultimately "drains/flows" to the Atlantic
edit- there are apparently multiple different "definitions of "continental divide" that are similar but not exact- for an interesting (to geeks like me at least lol) discussion- see the following link
https://www.dmr.nd.gov/ndgs/documents/newsletter/2003Summer/pdf/Divide.pdf
Per that I suppose you could argue that for North America you have a divide between flowing to the Arctic but I'm pretty sure no D-1 schools would be affected by that.
According to the Proclamation of 1763, the American frontier stopped at the Eastern Continental divide.
Route 8 Donuts. That's as far as you can settle...
Hey that's Christiansburg.
Does this split campus in half? Or does this mean we get to pick our conference?
I believe it runs across the airport, west to east, then north along the ridge on the east side of town. All the sewage from campus heads to the New River, so by that metric we're a Gulf Coast school.
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Mason Fortune QB 6-1½ 195# not-rated (height?). Raleigh NC Millbrook HS 4,208 yds 42 TDs junior, 2yr total 7,308 yds 82TDs. 24-4 record with a deep run in the 2022 NCHSAA playoffs. 1 of 3 finalists for North Carolina's 2022 Mr. Football. Team captain as a junior on a senior dominated roster. 3.375 GPA with a football IQ that has adapted to his 4th head coach's playbook in three varsity seasons. Multi-sport athlete, all-conference pick in baseball. Pointed praise from Laymarr Marshall, a veteran coach in his first year at Millbrook HS: "He's playmaker with a quick release who keeps his accuracy under pressure ... and I would add he has the intangibles."
Yes! Yes, Please!!
This dude and the QB for Jordan this year are legit. Both a bit undersized which leads me to believe they're being looked over.
Former VT recruiting coordinator Lino Lupinetti joins former VT Recruiting Director Mark Diethorn at Mich St. It hit my news feed since it mentioned VT, but didn't think it needed it's own thread
Lino to Mich St.
Feel like Lino left very abruptly. Did anyone ever hear what happened?
His contract ended and he didn't sign a new one.
I just think it's a matter of Lino going back to work for the guy who got him started. The personal relationship trumped the current position he was in at VT. That happens sometimes.
I wasn't speaking to his motives, only why his tenure ended abruptly.
Looks like another former staffer has joined them there Jack Pollard, player personal assistant.
I was referring to this tweet, but thank you for explaining how contracts work.
Happy to have this guy leading the '25 class
That motion is soooo smooth
Nice work!
Throws a really good ball, not too much float.
Can't wait.gif!
He has massive talent. That throwing motion just pops. What's really going to determine his ceiling is his brain.