Oh how the turntables
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38347273/north-carolina...
Cited mental health reasons for his second transfer closer to home. From a what's the right thing to do perspective, the NCAA got it wrong (shocking), but glad to see UNC get the same treatment as us with regard to a transfer.
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I seriously hate this for him.
But I also remember a severe lack of empathy from Chapel Hill during the Brock Hoffman saga, so I'm not too broken up about it. And the statements from UNC ring very hollow today because of it
tldr; sucks for the kid, fuck the school
It just seems odd to me that of all the things the NCAA overlooks, THIS is the thing they decide to be sticklers about.
But yeah, Brock Hoffman.
The NCAA did not get it wrong. At some point a line needs to be drawn, while I sympathize with Walker and his situation, the rules are clear. If he wanted a guarantee to play this year, he should have transferred as a post grad.
UNC in its fillings tried all different kinds of excuses as to why Walker needed immediate eligibility, the sighting of mental health being the most gross one.
When one of my employees came to me and said they were burnt out, I didn't tell them to work more. Like it or not, being a Divison 1 athlete is stressful and its schedule is grinding and difficult. I fail to see how not sitting out a year is more beneficial to someone with a mental health issue than sitting out a year and reducing that stress level, especially if he truly has a close relative with a severe health condition.
I know mental health is a large category of things but it really sounds bad to claim uou need to play a sport where you get hit in the head for mental health. With many mental health issues taking shots to the head is really bad for you.
Yeah that mental health push by UNC is all kinds of slimy. If UNC is so caring about him, cover his scholly and give him the year to get his academics (shouldn't be hard at UNC) and family affairs in order.
Disagree. The NCAA got this wrong. I'm not saying that multiple transfers shouldn't be limited and/or have some waiting period attached, but the NCAA didn't implement this new rule until AFTER his transfer paperwork was submitted/accepted. They can't retroactively go back and change the rules, or in this case, change the rules and not tell anyone about it until days after his transfer was submitted.
My information is also based on the recent articles from ESPN on this, and given their recent hit jobs on VT I have to take their reporting accuracy and intent into consideration.
I agree with the spirit of the rule..there clearly should be some level of need demonstrated to prevent every player in CFB from becoming J.T. Daniels.
My major contention would be, per the article, this rule wasn't enacted until after Walker had enrolled at UNC, which would seem to be retroactive application. That does seem unfair.
I won't dive into what sort of "mental health" issues constitute reasonable need (or even more how one can adequately demonstrate that), but I do find it a bit dubious that the mental health issue neccesitates being allowed immediate Football eligibility.
I can allow and understand that competition, exercise, ect can definitely be beneficial for mental health, but I am also quite sure that UNC has a host of Intramural programs that can help provide that for this young man while he works through his issues.
he could still work out with the team and trainers, just not be held to the rigorous schedule of the season.
I have a fucking crazy idea here. Hear me out. Don't laugh. From the time you graduate HS, you have 5 calendar years to play 4 years on the field. Period. Oh my fucking god, how crazy. Wow. 5 to play 4. Period. These are academic universities not minor league baseball clubs. Seriously. So play it out. You graduate HS in June of 2023 and commit to play football for VT. Your eligibility to play for any school is done- regardless- in 2028. Period. Like it was for 100 years. You don't get unlimited pandemic eligibility, unlimited "grad transfers" etc. 5 to fucking play 4. Not hard.
what about 5 to play 5?
I'm listening if 5 to play 5 was tied to academics, sure. Legit graduate, pursuing a legit masters/grad major. OK. But not one last desperate transfer to your 5th school for playing time and nothing else.
I tend to agree but we're at 5 to play 4.3 right now, so why even redshirt.
I am perfectly fine with 2nd transfer is sit out a year which would mean only 2 transfers allowed, however this case is odd because the guy went to a school and didn't play because there were no games. So how do you define the 5 years? Does it start when the first game is played? Had he gone to a college that didn't have football then transfered to play football then transfered to UNC his first year wouldn't have counted to the 5. So I am sympathic to this case because I think the rules should be more defined so that the athletes understand how they will be affect by them.
The 5 is based on when you graduated from HS. Simple. If you don't play major D1 football until 4 years after HS graduation, you have 1 year to play 1. and so on.
That would totally screw over BYU and Utah. Sounds great!
Yeah, because taking a 2 year break from sports and conditioning in the middle of your college career is a such a big advantage. How dare they exploit that tactic.
break from practice, yes, but at least back in the 70s, there were arrangements made to keep up with conditioning for promising athletes. Sauce: father in law played college basketball and was offered an option where he'd be sent somewhere with training facilities available if he committed to playing for BYU when he got back from mission.
I've always felt that BYU has a bit of an unfair advantage. Dudes pushing 30 by the time they are seniors.
I like it... incentives degrees + master's or additional degree in separate field
what about 5 to play 5?
Then you'd have people complaining they didn't get their 5 in because something-something.
5 to play 4, no excuses, no exceptions would be the most sensible.
Eliminate the special requests, the judgment calls, the "special exceptions if you're Georgia football or get the right lawyer" nonsense.
Whoa now, cut and dry rules don't allow the ncaa to swing their power dick around at random.
No sympathy.... signed Brock Hoffman, Ty Outlaw, many others
I always keep wondering why college football and/or the Universities even continue to allow the NCAA to have any say. That goes for all the sports. Just ridiculous decision after decision comes out of the "Halls of Justice" and the time and effort wasted by all the people involved in these archaic processes and rulings. How many "man hours" have gone into this single appeals process? 500? 1000?
NCAA citing two transfers when the kid only really played at one since Covid season at first school was canceled.
The other denial for a two time transfer that pissed me off was the Colorado kid. His first transfer was to play for Primetime. He decided he wanted to continue playing for Primetime for his second transfer. If the coaching staff changes any kid should be allowed to transfer without penalty.
Just seems backwards now with NIL in the mix regardless.
The NCAA is their for the olympic sports- that's their main purpose. Without it, you'd have bishop sycamore situations etc. Governing major football and basketball has been a failure anyway and now it has no pretense. When Pitino and Self openly pay players and Manziel openly is not a student at aTm, and nothing happens- we don't need you. The conferences should govern their conference in major college football. NC State watchdogging chapel hill would be much, much, much more effective anyway.
I was listening to the radio on the way to get lunch, and Adam Gold was on 99.9 in Raleigh, which generally gets broadcast across the state. Funny thing they had brought up - Mack Grown actively campaigned and petitioned for the NCAA to tighten its grip on the transfer portal to make it more difficult for players to hop from team to team.
So yeah, when you hear the words from UNC this weekend about this, remember they were vocal in support of the very rule changes that made this happen. They just didn't expect the leopard to eat their faces first.
Mack is well past Grown. Mack is on the Shrink phase I think.
But yes, oh sweet irony.
Oh ffs, to the penalty box for me
And then you get free...
It's the only sport where they let you have a rest for breaking the rules. Beautiful.
This is beyond stupid but nonetheless not surprising in the least.
Having lived in the triangle and attending UNC hosted sporting events, they are by far, the most entitled fans I've ever encountered. Not surprising at all
i dont disagree with their position. My only disagreement is that the new rules allegedly were voted on and approved last fall, but wasn't communicated until days after his transfer. I'm fine with the rule, but how the heck was he supposed to know he would have to sit when the new rule hadn't been made publicly available?
Mack Brown publicly lobbied for these exact rules
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Rules for thee, not for me...
UNC, where the numbers (and rules) always work out in their favor.
And the NCAA just caved to Mack Brown. Tez immediately eligible, will play this weekend
There's the NCAA be all know and loathe.
Had to focus some energy on banning pictures, lost sight of its battle against transfers.
UNC to the SEC confirmed
They must have paid the right lawyer, who "contacted" the right people.
I have no idea why eligibility is a thing any more? These kids are professional athletes being gifted 70K trucks on lease, being offered 1.5 million dollars to transfer, and playing 9 years in college or playing for 5 different schools. I saw Jalen Cone play for VT in Maui 5 years ago and he just transferred again. Eligibility is a thing still? Why? Just play for whomever the fuck you want to for however you want to. That's reality anyway, and these are pro athletes.
hes still got 3 more transfers in him, better take those lawyers with him though
Lmao...this is a perfect summation of the current state of College Football.
I don't have a problem with this (or any player opting out, for that matter). Football is violent game, no need to risk your entire career for an exhibition game.
The whole point was that the first line of Tez's transfer appeal was BS.
The overarching reason for transferring was playing in a more visible conference and catching passes from a top NFL QB prospect to boost his own stock. Pointless bowl game or not, it's funny how it worked out that Tez has the chance to suit up for Carolina in his home town and is sitting out.
NCAA could've avoided the whole mess, if they just rightly didn't treat Tez Walker's initial transfer from NC Central to Kent State in 2021 as a real transfer, since he didn't know if Central would have a season at that time and Central didn't have a game the whole time he was there in 2020.