Behind the scenes look at ACC's latest expansion

This reporting is from the ACC's perspective, but a good look at how SMU, Cal and Stanford earned ACC invitations.

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/nc-state/article28063298...

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Eh, this is what happens when you're late to the party, you get to "squabble over the scraps from Longshanks' table"

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"My understanding is ACC Presidents meet again tonight to discuss expansion," Miller wrote to Weisiger. "I'd love to share my thoughts with you about what SMU and Dallas bring to the table, but also (in case you're not aware) want to let you know that we've offered to come into the conference and not participate in media revenues for 7 years.

"Amounts to several hundred million dollars that can go into 'Success Pool'. Would appear to help solve issue with bigger football programs, such as yours. We're fortunate to have a very wealthy alumni base that is passionate about athletics and willing to underwrite whatever costs are incurred to get SMU back to Power Conference status. "

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After expenses, does SMU joining the ACC really amount to several hundred million dollars to the ACC over seven years?

The contract with espn says that they have to pay per school. More schools means more money. So SMU's additional 39ish million each year would go to the acc instead of SMU. Over 7 years that would be almost 280 million. This article kinda spells that out.

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Got it. Interesting. Thanks for posting that.

ACC gets the revenues from ESPN (estimated at $40M per school), doesn't have to give them to SMU. (SMU doesn't really lose that much because they were only getting $9M/yr under current arrangements). From SMU's perspective, SMU generating $30 more million per year as a team, and letting the ACC keep it, as well as the $9 M they'd have gotten anyway, for seven years. Worth it to them, as being in a power conference isn't so easy to achieve with only four of them now in play. Sort of a "win/win".

Sort of a "win/win".

For a short time. When that arrangement expires and SMU gets a full share, it dilutes everyone except SMU.

I suppose the argument would be that they bring with them to the ACC access to the Dallas TV market.

I mean, that was the argument for Maryland and Rutgers to the B1G.

Does the Dallas market bring 40+ million a year in revenue to the ACC after SMU's 7 years are up? If not then the rest of the ACC is paying SMU to be in the conference. I just don't see that kind of money being brought in from that market every year. I could be wrong as I haven't seen the numbers but I just don't see that kind of future forecast dollars.

I depends on how much of Texas has the ACCN added to their TV package. Say this pushes the Dallas and Houston carriers to add the network to their mid level package, means millions of households at a few bucks per. Same goes with Cal and Stanford, by it's about forcing the ACCN into the two most populated states.

Plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

So it's official, Houston coming to the ACC as well! TX2ACC.

Fuente was just ahead of his time with the TX2VT plan!

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I live in SoCal and ACCN is already included in my YTTV (but Pac12 is not). I just now looked at my local cable TV provider Cox Communications and a "preferred" plan at $105/mo is necessary for ESPN and Pac12; and an "ultimate" plan at $145/mo is necessary for ACCN and the BTN.

So, it's already here for a price. Maybe it does force a change in the ACCN being in the preferred plan, or maybe at least in NorCal.

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The dallas market is big time- for the fucking SEC, since that is where texas is. Nobody nationally watches SMU football- nobody. They watch fucking Texas and Texas AM football.

None of this shit matters so long as ESPN is the carrier for both the ACC and SEC and they pay the SEC 60% more. Period. That's why FSU wants to leave. If the NFL negotiated 60% more for the AFC vs. the NFC for TV, you think that's workable? in terms of balance? no fucking chance. This is no different. Both leagues have the same TV partner, and one league makes 60% more. it fucking sucks, no matter what teams are added. Hell, our shitty deal is WITH golden child notre dame.

All true, but I'd much rather be inside the P4 than outside of it.

IMO that's a lot of apples & oranges. The NFL and its teams are the equivalent of a college conference and its teams. Comparing the ESPN deals with the conferences would be like comparing FOX with TV deals with the NFL, XFL, UFL, CFL, whatever. There is just a TON more disparity between the NFL and the next-most popular professional football league (whatever that is) than between the SEC, ACC, etc.

That said, I'm not discounting your point of the major issue of contract imbalance. The ACC let itself get totally screwed on many different fronts over the last quarter century-ish and now is shitting its pants and crying foul.