HOKIES HOOPS CENTRAL: Florida State (13-10) at Virginia Tech (13-10) 9PM ESPNU

Wanted to get this put out. Game write up will drop tomorrow.

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HOKIES HOOPS CENTRAL: Florida State (13-10) at Virginia Tech (13-10) 9PM ESPNU

Florida State (13-10)
At Virginia Tech (13-10)
January 6th, 2023
Cassell Coliseum
9 p.m. ET
ESPNU
Virginia Tech Sports Network

ESPNU
Play-by-Play: Bob Wischusen,
Analyst: Jon Crispin

Local Radio
Virginia Tech Sports Network
Play-by-Play: Zach Mackey
Analyst: Mike Burnop

Current Spread: Hokies -5.5
Over/Under: -152.5

Can the Hokies put up a fight?
The Hokies come home after getting overrun by a Notre Dame squad that had lost seven straight ACC games. The Hokies really don't seem to be able to counter other teams that are moderately athletic. FSU's last game was an 80-76 loss to Virginia and lost three of the last five games.

The Florida State Seminoles squad comes in 13-10. This will be the 62nd meeting between the Hokies and Florida State. The Hokies are 24-37 after dropping the initial meeting in January. The game could have been much worse but the Hokies held FSU to 20% perimeter shooting while hitting 47.8% of their own.

The Seminoles have been coached by Steve Hamilton since 2002. Florida State is his fourth head coaching job including a one year stint as the Washington Wizards head coach. He also spent time as an assistant at Austin Peay and Kentucky from 1971-1986. The Seminoles come in 13-10 with only one Notable win over Colorado in OT. Their understandable losses were to Georgia, Florida and UNC. They also lost to SMU, USF, and Lipscomb which were quite ugly with USF and SMU both winning by double digits. Since playing the Hokies last they are 6-4 winning games they were expected to and losing the same.

FSU lost two of their three top scorers to the transfer portal. Florida State returnees Darin Green Jr and Baba Miller are major contributors. The Seminoles also got three transfers in guards Josh Nickleberry from LaSalle and Primo Spears from Georgetown (winning the name to school name squad first team award), and forward Jamir Watkins from VCU. Watkins is a starter with Spears playing starter minutes off the bench and Nickleberry getting about 13 mpg. Four-star forward Taylor Bowen was their only freshman commit and has played in almost every game.

Spears missed the Seminoles first eight games waiting on his NCAA transfer waiver to be approved by the NCAA and was freed up by the recent court decision that allowed all transfers to play immediately.

The Seminoles Darin Green Jr is the only one playing more than 30 mpg. They have four players averaging more than 22 mpg but have seven more that regularly average at least 10 mpg. The starting five are Green, Watkins, Miller, Warley, and either De'Ante Green or Cameron Corhen. Spears is the primary subs off the bench. Cam'Ron Fletcher, a key reserve, who missed the last game is now out for the season due to an ACL injury.

Hamilton has the Noles playing a loose man-to-man defense focused on collapsing to the lane. His teams focus on preventing open shots, limiting dribble penetration and disrupting interior passes. They are very focused on positioning to get defensive rebounds and clogging the paint to prevent second chance opportunities. So far opponents have shot 33% from outside on 23 shots per game. They tend to lose perimeter coverage off screens and crossing runs along the baseline allowing open corner looks.

Offensively, the Seminoles prefer to get to the hoop or find an interior pass to a big. They are averaging 17.8 threes attempted per game in ACC play, shooting just over 31%. Dribble penetration by Green and Spears drives their offense. This isn't the forest of bigs that Florida State has typically had in years past but there will be one or two 6'10+ players on the floor at all times.

Seminoles Backcourt
Darin Green
22 SR G 6-4 180
11.7 Pts, 3.1 Reb, 1.0 Ast

Jalen Warley
1 JR G 6-6 200
7.3 Pts, 3.0 Reb, 2.6 Ast

Primo Spears
23 JR G 6-3 185
10.6 Pts, 1.9 Reb, 2.2 Ast

Chandler Jackson
0 SO G 6-5 215
5.1 Pts, 1.3 Reb, 1.1 Ast
Josh Nickelberry
20 SR G 6-4 205
3.1 Pts, 1.2 Reb, 0.3 Ast

Seminoles Frontcourt
Jamir Watkins
2 JR F 6-7 210
14.0 Pts, 5.7 Reb, 2.7 Ast

Baba Miller
11 SO F 6-11 204
7.6 Pts, 4.9 Reb, 1.5 Ast

Cameron Corhen
3 SO F 6-10 225
8.5 Pts, 3.4 Reb, 0.4 Ast

De'Ante Green
5 SO F 6-10 210
5.6 Pts, 2.1 Reb, 0.5 Ast

Taylor Bol Bowen
10 FR F 6-10 195
3.0 Pts, 2.6 Reb, 0.3 Ast

What to expect from Florida State?
The Seminoles will alternate a three guard/two forward set versus two guard/three forward sets. Watkins is the swing forward so with him on the floor its typically a two guard/three forward set. They are led in scoring by the combo of Watkins and Green. In ACC play they have had to rely on Watkins much more as teams have run them off the perimeter.

Green and Spears driving to the hoop creates most of the Seminoles offensive opportunities. Their dribble penetration force defenses to adjust to them. The Hokies cant afford to let these two dictate inside adjustments. Getting around screens cleanly or switching off will be crucial to success. Spears is coming off the bench but playing 25 mpg. He is like a change of pace back in football so Hokies need to be aware of him when he checks in.

The Noles are able to create double digit turnovers but significantly less than the last time the Hokies faced off with them.

FSU has played several real duds, struggling defensively to keep teams out of the paint. The more success the Hokies have inside the more FSU draws to the lane, leaving shooters open outside. Perimeter could be a rejuvenation game after several games struggling from outside for the Hokies.

The Seminoles have a heavy focus on getting defensive rebounds. That said there is very little difference in the rebounding averages this season. They allow 11.8 offensive rebounds per game and 12 second chance points.

The Hokies
Can the Hokies put forth a better effort inside than they did against any of their recent competition? FSU while not as big inside as years past still has formidable size inside which has proved this season to be a major factor in the Hokies losses. I am not sure what the answer is with Young seemingly unwilling to employ alternate lineups or defensive styles.

The Hokies need to create open looks by getting inside and drawing the Noles into the paint. FSU is susceptible to dribble penetration and overreacts in terms of collapsing inside. The Hokies have been stronger in the last three games in terms of getting into the paint. The Seminoles overreact to prevent lane possessions which causes them to lose track of perimeter shooters. The ACC has feasted on shooting threes against the Seminoles.

The Noles struggle with fouls with five players averaging at least 2.8 per game. The Hokies have a great opportunity to get starters off the floor and get to the line if they can create opportunities for Kidd under the basket. The ability to work guards along the baseline is another area FSU has had a hard time defending and has led to reach in fouls or offside layups. The Hokies got 20 free throw attempts but allowed FSU to get to the line for 29 attempts.

In Closing
Who dictates pace and space? The more the Hokies can get the Noles to adjust to them in the paint the better their chances are of winning tonight. Forcing FSU to score outside of three feet is another major factor in getting a win. Controlling the paint unfortunately isn't a strong suit for the Hokies.

The Noles struggle against perimeter shooting teams that can pass the ball effectively around the perimeter. They lose though when they are forced to make baskets away from the hoop. In their ten losses they only shot above 40% overall in three games. They only manage about six second chance points a game as well. They just have shown they are beatable. Not really surprising when you see it like that. Bottom line: Contest shots and pack the lane.

The concern all Hokie Fans can attest to though is as much as Florida State has shown themselves to be beatable so have the Hokies. I just don't know what to expect game in and game out.

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Comments

LET'S GO...

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HOKIES!!!

Go Hokies!!

Kill..me...

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

The good news is I switched over to Hulu plus Live TV, so I get ESPNU now and can watch this game. The bad news is I switched over to Hulu plus Live TV, so I get ESPNU now and can watch this game.

Seriously though, this is a winnable gam. So go get 'em boys!

I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me.

Updated

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Since there is a t-shirt giveaway then that means we can't giveaway another 2nd half lead... right? there can only be one giveaway per game.... RIGHT?!?!?!

There are two tShirt giveaways so do they cancel each other out?

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

FSU is aware that their school primary color is not blue... right?

That 9p start time isn't doing us any favors in the stands... eek. Is it fair to say that the ladies out draw the men at this point?

Did Kidd just get 4 rebounds in one possession?

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How many times have FSU initiated the contact to get a foul?

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

all of them it seems

Danny is always open

Wahoos laid an egg against Pitt after finally getting ranked

UNC as well

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Camden in one full rotation

Inbounds pass knocked out of bounds
Turns ball over with terrible pass
Fouls FSU for shooting foul on other end

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

No one playing defense.

Both teams over 50% inside and out.
Just never know what's in the mystery box with this team

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Ok I lied I'm watching๐Ÿซ 

I would argue we're trying to play defense but what's allowed contact for us on defense is much less than what's allowed for FSU on defense

young did not commit a foul

Danny is always open

Meanwhile Kidd Pedulla or cattor get smacked and bodied driving to the paint and no whistle. FSU initiates lower body contact and VT player has hands down and it's a shooting foul

That put back attempt by Kidd sums up his season

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Why can't we ever get officials who call things both ways? Game starts and we are getting clobbered every time we go to the basket and they call fouls on us for hand checking and ignoring them traveling.

Good to see Young and little Poppa Pump get some run...may as well give them minutes to get more accustomed to ACC play at this point!

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Hopefully Watkins keeps running his mouth

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

They aren't going to call it on him even if he does.

Collins is fast! Need to maximize that and get him to play under control

We put the K in Kwality

Cattor steam rolled and no foul come on man

Collins might have looked at the guy too long and a foul

Thought they had given them the ball for a second

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

How can they throw our guys down driving to the lane without getting called for a foul?

We put the K in Kwality

Then guy jumps in Collins face and kicks his legs out. Foul on Collins.

We put the K in Kwality

Ours happens in a crowd. They are getting our guys on ISO

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Feels like Pedulla always misses freebies at worst times

Rob Peterson
VTCC
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Class of 1999

F Joe Lunardi as an "expert"

He was ranked 98th in terms of predictologists last year.

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Cattoor on floor again...third time on a drive this half

Rob Peterson
VTCC
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Class of 1999

And they call fouls 1:10

We put the K in Kwality

Rechsteiner never touched him

Rob Peterson
VTCC
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Class of 1999

Booked him with intent.

We put the K in Kwality

That foul on Pedulla was straight trash.

We put the K in Kwality

My lord man. Guy throws Pedulla to the floor, foul on Pedulla. Even these idiot announcers don't get it

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Fucking hell

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Kidd defense is killing us

Rob Peterson
VTCC
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Class of 1999

Kidd lack of defense is killing us.

I seldom speak to loluva grads, but when I do, I tell them I want large fries.

He started the year so well... Completely crumpled in ACC play.

his double teams are just free points

Danny is always open

These refs must have cataracts. They are seeing and not seeing amazing things. Either that or they are tripping on shrooms.

Collins gets his contact knocked out by an elbow to the face.

We put the K in Kwality

Collins is playing a hell of a game.

We put the K in Kwality

All FSU has to do is leave the floor to get a foul called

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Don't love Camden ball handling at the top of the key.

We put the K in Kwality

Don't like him in the game right now at all regardless of hitting his free throws.

Welp just gave them back on other end

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Totally agree. Unless he's in to foul.

We put the K in Kwality

Took four fouls for Watkins to get called for one

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Waited for the blood to leak through our uniform to make the call.

We put the K in Kwality

How do you hold someone with both hands in the air?

We put the K in Kwality

Take it right at Watkins

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

We should have been fouling every possession. They're missing a lot and can't get a 3-pointer.

We put the K in Kwality

We are getting called for them every time down anyway

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

bacon!!!!

We put the K in Kwality

Got lucky there

Rob Peterson
VTCC
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Class of 1999

Glad Kidd woke up.

We put the K in Kwality

Refs are calling us for breathing right now.

Ref was two feet from that and still blew it

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Even the announcers are saying over and over again that isn't a foul....

When ACC announcers are calling it bullshit. It HAS to be true.

We put the K in Kwality

Pedulla not good at breaking press. Collins has been much begetter about getting it down the court.

We put the K in Kwality

Pedulla seems to want to get trapped. Just get down court.

Yeah. But then he makes a lazy lollipop pass out of it.

We put the K in Kwality

Double Double for Kidd

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

Quote of the game from the commentator..."John Camden when fouled at mid court: 'thank God.'"

Smacked Pedulla in the face

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

No foul, Pedulla got hit in the head.

"They missed a couple"
Understatement of the night

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

FAM

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

Good win, I had a feeling they could get this one.

Gotta feel good for the guys to end that three game losing streak.

Unfortunately UNC lost to Cuse tonight, so I imagine they'll be out for blood Saturday, and our fresh meat is on the menu

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Yeah. And the game is at carolina. Can only imagine what the reffin' will be like on tobacco road.

I seldom speak to loluva grads, but when I do, I tell them I want large fries.

That will be our upset game for the year.

UNC gout caught looking past 'cuse to the big matchup with us.

and our fresh meat is on the menu

Phrasing?

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If you're reading this mail me West End London Broil pls

Went back and watched the remained of the second half after I decided to go to bed and HoL E Cow that bald ref was seeing ghosts on the calls against the hokies for the last ten minutes

It says something when even the announcers are saying we didn't see a foul there.

For almost every foul from 10 min remaining!