There is the off chance the Hokies are 4th in the polls tomorrow FAM.
USC, Stanford, NC ST and Iowa all lost this week. I doubt the drop Stanford that far but with the attention the ladies got today maybe it will be enough.
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At the senior day presentation, the crowd just kept chanting "One more year" during Amoore's part. Glad her parents and brother were able to make. I hope they can make it next year at this time as well.
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I expect her to stay another year. She can make 10x a WNBA Rookie salary from NIL if she stays at Iowa for next year. Expect much of the current projected top 12 picks to do the same. I believe 8 of the current 12 have the option to return which works in Kitley's favor as she might jump up to a top 5 pick (currently projected 12th to the Atlanta Dream.)
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I'm not sure your math checks out. If she would make that much from NIL compared to the WNBA, would she not potentially make a lot from endorsement deals as a professional (going to the WNBA is more desirable for a company looking to sell women's athletic gear, Nike for instance)? So she would be potentially getting national endorsement deals AND WNBA salary, compared to NIL, which for college women's sports doesn't seem like it'd be as much.
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In a perfect world, yes the endorsements would carry over, because it should be about her value alone, but that's not how NIL works in the real world, it's paying players to play for VT. Players in a VT uniform are more valuable to me than players in other uniforms.
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Yep this. Some deals would probably carry but not nearly as many as WNBA has a much smaller viewership than College basketball and the owners aren't desperate to keep a player whereas Iowa will be to get another year of her high profile play.
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Clark currently has NIL deals valued at over $910K annually mostly from Nike, State Farm and Gatorade. She also has deals with Buick, Bose, shoot-a-way, Hyvee for cereal, H&R Block, Topps, Goldman Sachs, and The Vinyl Studio for clothing.
She already has an estimated net worth of $3M.
Her WNBA salary would be $76K but she wouldn't be a one woman show if she goes to the Indiana Fever. They have Aliyah Boston, this year's WNBA Rookie of the Year among others.
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The really silly is that she is only the third highest paid women's basketball player somehow.
Angel Reese ($1.7M) and Flau'jae Johnson from LSU ($1.1M) are higher mainly for their social media following and doing brand shoutouts. Reese has 5.2M social media followers and Johnson has 3.1M.
Clark 1.4M but more national TV endorsements.
Reese has deals with almost 25 companies though including Playstation, Tampax, Raising Kanes, Reebok, Amazon, Airbnb, Starry and Beats by Dre. Johnson and Reese share many of these same companies deals.
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Why? It's way more marketable than the WNBA. There are so many more viewers of college basketball than thr WNBA. It's not even close how much more popular college basketball is over the WNBA.
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Clark currently has NIL deals valued at over $910K annually mostly from Nike, State Farm and Gatorade. She also has deals with Buick, Bose, shoot-a-way, Hyvee for cereal, H&R Block, Topps, Goldman Sachs, and The Vinyl Studio for clothing.
She's going to make all of that whether she's in college or the WNBA. Jake from State Farm doesn't care where she plays as long as she sings the jingle. She'll go pro.
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The smart move is to stay at Iowa where she's a protected asset. WNBA is a lower salary than her NIL deals plus the fact that everyone there is at least her level of play. She won't standout or be espn's top headline everyday. She won't be able to armbar her way to the rim and draw fouls like she does now; the refs and people of importance in the WNBA isn't gonna care who she is or what she did in college. Zion 2.0
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Not to mention, I honestly think a lot of the NIL deals for Clark, Reese etc disappear when they leave their schools. The NIL organizations are coordinating the pay to play contracts. As stated WNBA doesn't maintain the same star power (for now).
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I'll admit, I pay attention to Caitlin Clark and what's she's doing because she's in college and because I follow most VT sports, I'm gravitated to follow her story.
I can't even name 3 WNBA teams and can promise that once she's in the WNBA, her following will drop drastically and therefore, a lot of her deals.
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Just like the countless UCONN stars before her, Clark will go to basketball siberia that is the WNBA. Nobody watches those games on TV or in person. She will likely have to play overseas to supplement her income. Enjoy her this next month, because after that she disappears into a dying league and/or a league in Serbia.
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I didn't realize she had national brand endorsements. So her salary for the WNBA wouldn't be as much as a doctor, but she would keep endorsements. While the WNBA may not have as large a viewership, if her name is big enough, Nike puts female pro athletes in commercials to appeal to larger audiences. So just because college may have a higher viewership than the WNBA, their commercials target audience would be all female basketball players, even junior levels.
Think about it another way: Nike isn't trying to sell products to Iowa women's college basketball fans. Her going pro will potentially give her even more name recognition than she has now, even if fewer people actually watch the WNBA. Nike cares more about overall name recognition for the people they give endorsement deals to. I still think going pro would get her more endorsement money than her current NIL deals.
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It's not selling products to Iowa fans. With her national recognition every time she plays all college basketball fans and just about any sports fan in general is exposed to her any game she is featured because ESPN puts her on a loop. That won't happen with the WNBA. WNBA is rarely even covered in highlights on ESPN. Goes from hours of coverage nightly to minutes of coverage.
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Unfortunately. Maybe with the last couple of years of increased viewership of the women's college basketball will translate to the WNBA, but I think that most people like rooting for their college team first and specific players second.
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Queens of Cassell Fam
Massive win!!!
LFG!!!
HOKIES!!!!
FAMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Clinched at least a share of the regular season ACC title!
Dont we own the tiebreakers?
Yes, clinched top seed in ACC tournament
Who are we sharing it with?
If we lose out and Syracuse wins out, we will be tied, though we hold the tiebreaker.
Kitley FAM
Amoore FAM
King FAM
Summiel FAM
FAM! Great win despite all the distractions. Game Day crowd repped the Hokies well.
Forgot to watch because I was building a pantry, but all the FAM!
Don't forget Amoore with a double-double while only playing 3 quarters!
HYEAAAHHHHH FAM
FAM! It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood!
FAM!!!!!!!
Now to hear what Banghart has to say about we don't play defense.
Or sell out... times 5 so far.
They made the first points then we took the lead and never looked back. FAM!!
I loved the ESPN article about they had the lead early. That was when the score was 3-0 and then 3-2. They never lead again after that. FAM!
Big win against a good program. Great last regular season game at the Cassell! FAM!
Amoore with the double double, FAM!
Kitley tied her season high AGAIN, FAM!
5th Sell out of Season, FAM!
The connection 🙏
i didnt realize that was between the legs until now... awesome play
WHAM
BAM
THANK YOU, FAM!
There is the off chance the Hokies are 4th in the polls tomorrow FAM.
USC, Stanford, NC ST and Iowa all lost this week. I doubt the drop Stanford that far but with the attention the ladies got today maybe it will be enough.
Hugely biased take by me but I honestly think we can claim to be the 2nd best team in the country right now
If we are #4 then NCSU will somehow be #3...
/S
FAM !!
This team continues to impress. Very nice win!
No way we are not at least 5th. Just keep winning baby.
At the senior day presentation, the crowd just kept chanting "One more year" during Amoore's part. Glad her parents and brother were able to make. I hope they can make it next year at this time as well.
I didnt pick up on it, but someone else said they noticed her mom saying "one more year" too while the crowd was chanting it.
Ladies are up to 5th this week.
Comparing wins of those ahead of us vs Top 30 in NET rankings
Ohio State: 5-2
Wins: Iowa, Indiana, Michigan St (2), and Nebraska - 1 road win
Losses: UCLA and nUSC - 1 home loss
Remaining: @ Iowa
Other Losses: @ Michigan (#52)
Texas: 4-3
Wins: UCONN, K State, @ WVU, @ Baylor - 2 road wins
Losses: @ K State, Oklahoma, Baylor - 2 home losses
Remaining: @ Oklahoma
Stanford: 7-3
Wins: UCLA, @ Utah, Indiana, Oregon St, Duke, Wazzou (2) - 2 road wins
Losses: vs USC, @ Gonzaga, @ Colorado - 1 home loss
Remaining: @ Oregon St
Other Losses: Arizona (#33) - home loss
Virginia Tech: 6-3
Wins: NC State (2), Duke, @ Louisville, UNC (2) - 3 wins on road
Losses: nIowa, @ LSU, @ Duke - 0 home losses
Remaining: @ Notre Dame
Other Losses: @ Florida St (#40)
Have to cheer for Oklahoma and Oregon State this week.
Actually better for Ohio State to beat Iowa again most likely. If Iowa wins they probably would jump the Hokies and Ohio State might not even move.
Maybe if Iowa loses, Caitlin Clark will stiff-arm another student and then fake an injury. I'm rooting for it.
Always good to root against Iowa until Clark is gone.
I expect her to stay another year. She can make 10x a WNBA Rookie salary from NIL if she stays at Iowa for next year. Expect much of the current projected top 12 picks to do the same. I believe 8 of the current 12 have the option to return which works in Kitley's favor as she might jump up to a top 5 pick (currently projected 12th to the Atlanta Dream.)
I've also heard rumors that she (Kitley) will forego the league and go straight to med school
While playing in the WNBA would potentially be fun, she'd probably make a fair amount more as a doctor.
If she truly wants to be a doctor she is probably better off continuing her education straight away.
I'm not sure your math checks out. If she would make that much from NIL compared to the WNBA, would she not potentially make a lot from endorsement deals as a professional (going to the WNBA is more desirable for a company looking to sell women's athletic gear, Nike for instance)? So she would be potentially getting national endorsement deals AND WNBA salary, compared to NIL, which for college women's sports doesn't seem like it'd be as much.
In a perfect world, yes the endorsements would carry over, because it should be about her value alone, but that's not how NIL works in the real world, it's paying players to play for VT. Players in a VT uniform are more valuable to me than players in other uniforms.
Yep this. Some deals would probably carry but not nearly as many as WNBA has a much smaller viewership than College basketball and the owners aren't desperate to keep a player whereas Iowa will be to get another year of her high profile play.
Clark currently has NIL deals valued at over $910K annually mostly from Nike, State Farm and Gatorade. She also has deals with Buick, Bose, shoot-a-way, Hyvee for cereal, H&R Block, Topps, Goldman Sachs, and The Vinyl Studio for clothing.
She already has an estimated net worth of $3M.
Her WNBA salary would be $76K but she wouldn't be a one woman show if she goes to the Indiana Fever. They have Aliyah Boston, this year's WNBA Rookie of the Year among others.
That is absolutely silly for a college player.
The really silly is that she is only the third highest paid women's basketball player somehow.
Angel Reese ($1.7M) and Flau'jae Johnson from LSU ($1.1M) are higher mainly for their social media following and doing brand shoutouts. Reese has 5.2M social media followers and Johnson has 3.1M.
Clark 1.4M but more national TV endorsements.
Reese has deals with almost 25 companies though including Playstation, Tampax, Raising Kanes, Reebok, Amazon, Airbnb, Starry and Beats by Dre. Johnson and Reese share many of these same companies deals.
Why? It's way more marketable than the WNBA. There are so many more viewers of college basketball than thr WNBA. It's not even close how much more popular college basketball is over the WNBA.
That should help w med school.....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v6bD23vEigE&list=PLZbXA4lyCtqqz-_unvi5b60uEYZXA94mr&index=6&pp=iAQB
I see what you did there. A leg for you. One of my favorite movies.
She's going to make all of that whether she's in college or the WNBA. Jake from State Farm doesn't care where she plays as long as she sings the jingle. She'll go pro.
The smart move is to stay at Iowa where she's a protected asset. WNBA is a lower salary than her NIL deals plus the fact that everyone there is at least her level of play. She won't standout or be espn's top headline everyday. She won't be able to armbar her way to the rim and draw fouls like she does now; the refs and people of importance in the WNBA isn't gonna care who she is or what she did in college. Zion 2.0
Not to mention, I honestly think a lot of the NIL deals for Clark, Reese etc disappear when they leave their schools. The NIL organizations are coordinating the pay to play contracts. As stated WNBA doesn't maintain the same star power (for now).
I'll admit, I pay attention to Caitlin Clark and what's she's doing because she's in college and because I follow most VT sports, I'm gravitated to follow her story.
I can't even name 3 WNBA teams and can promise that once she's in the WNBA, her following will drop drastically and therefore, a lot of her deals.
Just like the countless UCONN stars before her, Clark will go to basketball siberia that is the WNBA. Nobody watches those games on TV or in person. She will likely have to play overseas to supplement her income. Enjoy her this next month, because after that she disappears into a dying league and/or a league in Serbia.
That's why I believe she stays at Iowa next year.
Exactly. She stays another year, breaks several more records, makes a boatload of money and then, only then... goes to basketball Siberia :-)
If she is smart, even at her tax bracket, she can be a significant step towards saving for her retirement.
I didn't realize she had national brand endorsements. So her salary for the WNBA wouldn't be as much as a doctor, but she would keep endorsements. While the WNBA may not have as large a viewership, if her name is big enough, Nike puts female pro athletes in commercials to appeal to larger audiences. So just because college may have a higher viewership than the WNBA, their commercials target audience would be all female basketball players, even junior levels.
Think about it another way: Nike isn't trying to sell products to Iowa women's college basketball fans. Her going pro will potentially give her even more name recognition than she has now, even if fewer people actually watch the WNBA. Nike cares more about overall name recognition for the people they give endorsement deals to. I still think going pro would get her more endorsement money than her current NIL deals.
It's not selling products to Iowa fans. With her national recognition every time she plays all college basketball fans and just about any sports fan in general is exposed to her any game she is featured because ESPN puts her on a loop. That won't happen with the WNBA. WNBA is rarely even covered in highlights on ESPN. Goes from hours of coverage nightly to minutes of coverage.
Unfortunately. Maybe with the last couple of years of increased viewership of the women's college basketball will translate to the WNBA, but I think that most people like rooting for their college team first and specific players second.
For me, I will watch anything VT is doing. I watch every VT mens and womens bball game. I never watch the nba or wnba