https://athlonsports.com/college-football/acc-coaches-talk-anonymously-a...
I enjoyed this one:
"The recruiting hasn't been there yet, for whatever reason. It's a very hard to recruit in-state because out-of-state programs raid the top guys, and now Virginia Tech is cooking again."
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It will never not seem weird to me to see Stanford/cal/SMU on these lists.
I happen to agree with the comments about Diaz. I think he's a decent coach who got screwed by Miami admin.
Also didn't realize Grayson McCaw is at NC st. That's kinda scary. They might win 10 games for once.
Agree on Diaz, but Duke is a very odd place for him.
Not excited to see the turnover chain at Duke?
I loved the turnover chain, it was sooooo Miami. Tacky, juvenile, and awesome.
I'm sure they will find something equally tacky, but totally Duke - like a turnover trident or a turnover cape or a turnover beret.
The turnover JJ Redick jersey
Turnover Diploma?
Nah, that's UNCheat
IDK, I work in Durham and one of the founders of my company was also a professor at Duke. He quit being a professor because he said the cheating was so rampant that he couldn't participate in the charade of calling it a degree any more.
How much of that cheating has become predominant since we have replaced teachers and Aides with computers, online classes, and automated testing? I understand at Tech almost none of the math courses I needed for an engineering major are actually taught anymore.
Just my opinion, and mildly political- but IMO cheating is not a big deal to people in today's culture. People don't care as much about integrity, morals, etc. as they used to- not near enough.
To be fair, institutions (government, employers, communities, etc) have been less interested in building trust as of late. It's not just that people suck; the environment around us is changing (for a variety of reasons/causes), as are the incentives. People are just reacting rationally.
You look at the UNCheat example mentioned above - The university's identity, brand, and income was tied closely to winning basketball games - the university was directly and indirectly incentivized by TV networks, alumni, fans, and potential new students to win at all costs. The recruiters, the coaches, the administrators... they just responded to the incentives. 40 years ago, the incentives were no where near as strong.
Good point. Imagine theft and assault being "de-criminalized" years ago? It's just where we are
I don't think it's been 'decriminalized' - rather the rewards that sacrificing time for a community, or getting an 'honest' job, or not faking college athlete admissions, etc doesn't (always) outweigh the rewards for taking the opposite path.
Keeping this in the college sports world... If Roy Williams didn't get a fake class created for his athletes, someone else would have, and that someone else would've won a championship instead of Roy. Then Roy would have gotten fired and the fans/admin/boosters would have hired someone who was willing to do the dirty work.
In the past, that 'someone else' may not have been there, because that 'someone else' wasn't pulling 8-9 figures from a TV contract every year.
You know that you won't get any argument from me on the big boys cheating to win. Roy -could- have done it honest- but that's not college hoops.
OH MAN, HERE COMES THE TURNOVER ENCYCLOPEDIA MUSIC!!! MOST EXCITING TRADITION IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!!
Turnover Floor Slap
Lame AF... remember when they also all signed the floor after they lost like 2 acc games? barf
I was staring at this wondering when GT was beating #4 Duke 56-6... That'd have been a fun game!
An apple turnover.
I've got a turnover for Duke.... Turnover ya lunch money, nerds!!!!
McCall certainly hasn't been around 6 years or anything
Man it's nice to see a whole list of positive comments
Looks like some folks are starting to notice VT again.
People noticed Virginia Tech during the Fuente era too. I remember Sports Illustrated noticing the culture that Fuente was building and writing a nice feature article about it.
Ah yes. That was after he ran off a bunch of Beamer's players and we were entering the "Storm's a-Brewin" "It Start Snow" era of VT football.
At a certain point, it became impossible not to notice that the program was being destroyed under Fuente.
"It's SOOOOO bad" - Kirk Herbstreit
Hahah, yeah that's the other one I was thinking about. I wanted to post the clip, but I couldn't find it.
I think being a TKP member has spoiled me. Felt like I was reading that article through a mail slot by the time all the pop up ads got in place.
Firefox with ublock origin is the only way to browse the internet
With pihole infront of it
at least you got that far... my blocker is so extreme I can't get passed the warning from Athlon to turn it off. And my ad blocker isn't a browser extension - its a whole network content tracking thing and I'm not going to go through the hoops to fix it.
getting mentioned in a positive light in the UVA roast *chefs kiss*
I always like these. NC State will be annoying- as in they could beat Clemson and lose to UVA. and Louisville will be very good/pain in the neck as long as Brohm is there. I don't think Duke or Cuse are any good, and UVA will still be terrible. FSU always gets whomever they want in the portal, so they will win 11-12 games. I don't think Clemson is where they were in their prime, so I like FSU to win the league. Notre Dame will go undefeated in ACC games, BTW. SMU is better than we think.
Man, ND gets both FSU and Louisville at home and plays GT at Mercedes Benz, Navy at MetLife, and Army at Yankee Stadium... must be nice to have that pull.
Always. they never play Navy home and home. Ever. and they play their stupid "shamrock series" games at neutral sites that always happen to favor ND. David Teel jumped my shit on twitter when I said they would play neutral ACC games- and of course I was right as Wake moved a game with them to charlotte. I hate it- and so does every non domer
Yeah the whole Navy deal is pretty sad IMO. Memorial Stadium is awesome and ND having played there a combined total of ZERO times is ridiculous.
I went to the game two years back at M&T and it was empty. There's not enough demand to warrant a larger stadium, it's idiotic.
SMU will start strong and maybe give FSU and UofL a game, but then by Duke I expect a losing streak. Their Oline is not good. They have good skill players but they are going to hurt in the trenches and it will catch up to them.
I am not sold on Klubnik at all. I think 9-3 type year.
Bryan Harsin catching strays and clapping back lol:
My understanding is that the coaches they get for these quotes are very rarely ever head coaches but most often lower level staffers. In that case, an anonymous staffer might just say something like this.
just out of curiosity, this is chatGPT's take:
Or:
And these are every bit as valid as Athlon's anonymous quotes post every year.
Valid
Not sure I want to know what it would say about our program.
I kind of do....
me: Anonymous opposing coach quote about Virginia Football
ChatGPT: "Virginia football? They're like a sleeping giant that never wakes up. You expect them to be a force to reckon with, but they consistently disappoint. It's like facing a paper tiger – looks intimidating from afar, but easily torn apart up close."
me: More insulting
ChatGPT: "Virginia football? They're a laughingstock, a perennial punching bag for any team with a pulse. It's like playing against a high school JV team that accidentally wandered onto the college field. They're so inept, it's almost comical."
clearly ChatGPT scrapes content from tech football blog comment sections because that second one is almost verbatim some I've read.
Correct- they talk to the SID's first, and they are either told no or given a position coach/GA/etc.
Steven Godfrey (the reporter who has been doing these for years, also the same guy who did bag man and foul play) clapped back as well. On his podcast he's said that's never head coaches, but it's often assistants (position coaches, coordinators, analysts, QA, etc):
I've been reading these for years so they really do