Watching Minnesota vs Wisconsin for the Axe. Bunch of Minnesota fans wearing the Hokies overalls with Minnesota shirts.
What else are you watching outside of Hokies Womens basketball and soccer?
Big XII all piled up at the top so they have some key rivalry games to decide who gets to Championship game. Hoping Arizona St and Iowa State win out so Colorado is left in the cold.
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Here's the flowchart based on Colorado's expected win.
Looking forward to the Egg Bowl and all of the late games.
0-8 in conference play, 3-8.
getting absolutely blasted 0-52 at Colorado.
Is Gundys seat not hot?
***Favored to win the conference in preseason.
Guess we know how the ACC is going to make the Miami game go tomorrow already
nothing suspicious to see here, folks.
This looks awkwardly weird now...
Nailed it
Haven't paid much attention to college ball today. I've been too excited about the possibility of Pry bringing on Eberflus as the new game clock coordinator. He'll fit right into our coaching culture.
With nothing to lose, Mississippi State is certainly letting it all out. Fake punt well back in their own territory and then going for it on 4th and 7. Taking the 7-3 lead.
Sam Houston, with Corny at OC, survives a late comeback and beats Liberty Bibberty.
Wisconsin ends their 22-year bowl streak after their loss today.
AND I AM HERE FOR IT
This 7th ranked SEC team sure is struggling with their mediocre ACC rival.
I think the $EC just has a better marketing department.
GT has 307 yards in the first half, good golly
If not for this last drive Georgia was under 100
Philo has to be grinding his teeth after leading GTs big come back last week only to have Haynes King leading the Jackets over Georgia this week.
Nah, he comes from a GT family. They want him to redshirt this year. If he plays tonight he burns his redshirt.
Don't understand spiking it on the 4 with 45 seconds on clock
Hell of a TD with the dive but left a lot of clock and UGA has two timeouts
So is GT a "good" loss for Miami now???
If this finishes this way, I can't wait to see the shit people are going to throw at Lane Kiffin
That looked like something Marve would do. All goes back to spiking it on 2nd down and goal. If they hadn't done that no way UGA gets this kick
At least he missed
And now not having a returner back may hand prevented a kick six
Cheering for Texas A&M, Auburn and Vandy tomorrow. Bring on all the SEC chaos.
In addition to what you have here, pulling for (1) the Cyclones and (2) for OSU to put up about 70 on Michigan.
If I could only get 1 of the 3 you listed, would definitely want Auburn to win. Not even the playoff committee could get Alabama in as a 4 loss team.
Yeah up above said cheering for Iowa St and Arizona St so Colorado is left in the cold.
We all know how this review is going to go
Seems clear to me ball is out before he is down
...and there it is. Giving UGA life
Yeah. Hopefully I will be wrong, but hard to imagine Georgia will not win this.
Didn't understand going for two there. Hope it comes back to haunt them
Doesn't make sense at all. Yes, it's still a two score game but now they have to go for two on the next TD to get within a FG.
The wrong call was made on the field, but I get that there wasn't enough evidence to overturn.
It's what should've happened in our game against Miami
I thought it was clear the ball was in GT players hands before the UGA RB button hit the ground
Interesting. Yea, I didn't think it was that obvious at all. Likely? Sure. Definitive? IMO no.
Edit - sorry, posted in the wrong place,
Hope GT converts here. Or decides to kick to extend lead to 2 TDs
Wow can't believe UGA let that happen. That play took forever
Haynes King is 3rd and Loganing UGA
If GT somehow manages to pull this one off, how many 3+ loss SEC teams make the layoffs? I'm guessing at least 2. Could be 3 or 4.
Given that we beat GIT 21-6, I think we should be in the playoffs.
So here's the thing: 12 teams is too many. You can't find 12 deserving teams in any year except maybe 2007.
When we went from a 2 team playoff to a 4 team playoff, it was because there were deserving teams who got left out from the 2 team playoff. That wasn't really the case when we went to 12 teams - we did it because the first round games were boring and the NY 6 games were meaningless (and obviously money)
So anyways... you need to fill out the bracket with 12 teams... who else you gonna put in? Oregon, OSU, IU, PSu, Boise, SMU, Miami OR Clemson, B12 winner, SEC winner, ND... then you gotta find two more... Army? Then who?
Yep, totally agree. My dream scenario - which I know will not happen, I'm just dreaming - was 4, 16 team regional super conferences. 1 each in the northeast, southeast, midwest and west. None of this Rutgers and UCLA and Virginia Tech and Stanford are in the same conference. Each have 2 8 team divisions. At the end of the year, the division winners play each other and the winner gets an automatic bid to an 8 team playoffs. The other 4 are at-large bids but they have to be ranked in the top 10. And if the highest ranked team that is not in one of the super conferences is in the top 10, they have to be picked.
Oh well. What can you do?
This, and promo/relogation, and CFB will be the best it ever has been.
Three levels of two 16 team leagues. That's 128 teams. Boom. Easy.
All of a sudden every FSU game is must watch TV as they get relegated.
This is just such a wild, entitled take.
College football is a massive outlier in the world of team sports. Even now less than 1% of the field makes it to the postseason. That's still a crazy lean field. No other sport anywhere has such a small field.
I'm not sure if you're expecting 12 undefeated, flawless and unbeatable teams to make it to "the field", but using language like "deserving" is some pompous language.
Nobody says shit like that in sports. I get that our postseason has been so fucking stupid for so fucking long, but don't trash the creep of improvement.
Is an opinion that "99.9% of the college basketball teams are undeserving trash that should never play in the postseason?" taken seriously? Are they taking this very serious advice and slimming down on March Madness?
Shit, only like the one seeds ever win the damn thing. Why even hold a tournament? Just hand the top 1 seed a trophy every year and save us all the effort.
You do know that college football has far more upset potential per spread than college basketball games? Football is far less predictable, even considering the difference in scoring, than basketball.
We DON'T want to see that play out on a real sports field?
This will be the first season we actually see a real bracket with auto bids. Just because we've never had a 68-team playoff doesn't mean we need to mail it in and go back to voting the postseason away.
College football is neither boring nor predictable. And hopefully the last sport where we EVER used (past tense, fingers crossed) fucked up language like "deserving" to describe who gets handed an unearned tiara.
Tournaments. It's what sports do.
There's two different conversation happening here:
If cfb is going to select over half of the post season field based on how they 'look', then they open themselves up to pageantry judgement. You can argue that's a feature or a bug, but it's reality.
Also, don't golf tournaments do this too? They don't advance a set number of people each round. They don't decide a required score before the round starts. Each round, the scores come in, and they find an arbitrary line where scores drop off.
In most years in college football, it's pretty easy to draw that line. Some years it's 1-2 teams, some years it's 3-4 teams, sometimes it's 6-8 teams. It's almost never 12 teams.
Texas is in. If UGA wins conference championship game they get in. If Tenn beats Vandy they are in. Then it's a question of Texas A&M, SCar, Ole Miss and Alabama
Georgia should have been hit with an unnecessary roughness before the GT FG. Probably would have ended the game though so of course not.
A TD there would have definitely made it hard for UGA to comeback.
As it is now it looks like momentum is with UGA looking to be only down 7 shortly.
UGA gets bailed out again inside the 5 yard line by officials. Ball was tipped so PI can't happen but they refused to review.
ACC refs treating UGA like NFL refs treat the Chiefs
Need another long, time-consuming drive and FG for GT.
Edit: I'll take the TD instead.
Regardless of how this ends up, I'm just angrier at how our season went. When we play to our full potential we are easily a top 25 team, if not more.
Kirby Smart is really happy that conference champs get in the playoffs no questions asked now.
Only the Top 4 rated Conference Champs
Are you kidding me?? Why would you not just take the clock to the 2 min timeout. Why runs play there??
Take the TO and make sure you're ready to call the play. Damn.
Play clock was going to expire at 2:07
Ugh....Marve calling defense and then that
How that wasn't targeting is beyond me. And of course no mention of it from the booth
That's what the GT coach was asking for
Definition of the rule
Of course they put time back on to give UGA a 4th timeout
I can't think of a time I have ever rooted for GT...
Officials doing everything they can
lol... that's a clear offensive PI on GA
Holding much?
Or hands to the face. They both get a blind eye from the zebras
In fairness. Was there ever much doubt GA would win this? At 27-13, I thought there was a chance for GT to win, but never felt it was likely.
How dumb was going for 2 now?
That was a pick play on the tying TD
The officiating has been dismal. They really want UGA to win....
Too much money involved to let GIT win this game
That ball hit the endzone, bounced back and went out the side of play
No chance that GT wins this. 0. Absolute 0. 0 on the Kelvin Scale. And no, there is no way I would say this as a way to appease the evil sports gods to somehow let GT win. I would never do that.
Maybe a makeup call there swallowing the whistle on that failed 2pt try
5ot is dumb
6ot is dumb
Will this game be over by the SEC title game?
Well that was a kick in the groin
Well shit
Good night all. Hoping for better results later today.
The real tragedy is that UGA won't suffer for this at all.
ESPN is the MSM. So this of course happens.
The game announcers last nite were doing the same thing for UG ("SEC on ABC"). They're such tools.......
no moral victory, a loss like that in rivalry week absolutely would gut me for weeks.
GT looked so good in the first half yesterday. I went to bed at half. I assume nothing interesting happened after that
Nope, nothing interesting. Just exactly how you thought it would go w an $EC sweetheart in the game.
All I saw was UGA blantantly (comically) holding on every pass. Was egregious on their game-tying drive. Guess if they're not going to call it, why not? The number of cheap shots (targeting, punching HK after a tackle was obvious). But it's ACC refs so why not screw your own conference.
The three most aggregious calls
Not overturning what looked like a clear strip inside the 5 yard line. Georgia scored next play.
Calling Defensive PI on 4th and Goal on a tipped pass. Refused to review for the tip. Georgia scored on the next play.
Not reviewing the King "fumble" for targeting. Georgia gets ball at GT 30 yard line and scores TD.
The pick play for TD was pretty bad too, but king fumbled on what was a hit to the head which is the hits you want to elmliminate
ESPN/ABC couldn't get more shameless if they tried
I'm assuming somewhere between the Mouse's stat person, script writer, and editors they got "program history" and "FBS history"'mixed up
Is it one of those stupid misleading stats that hinges on the fact we didnt call it "FBS" until recently?
Like how there are "premiere league" records but the prem only started in 1992 so everything before that is kinda hand waved away
Watching Elko on Gameday this morning. Tremendous coach. Absolute travesty that he was interested in the VT job and we turned him down for Pry. Thanks Ballein for lobbying for your buddy!
Elko had ties to TAMU, left Duke after one year. He would've done the same thing here.
Would've taken a year or two of Elko if that's all we got. He was interested in the job.
First I'm hearing of this
Sellers for South Carolina just did a heck of a Mike Vick impression. What an elusive runner.
Vandy scored on the opening kickoff vs Tenn.
Tenn fumbles 2 plays later.
10:22 left in Q1. 14-0 Vandy.
Tenn did not make 4th and 1. Turned over to Vandy at Tenn 45.
Tenn Int in the end zone.
Next play Vandy ain't at the 35 with a 15 yd unsportsmanlike.
Texas Tech is whooping up on the cousins. Is this the last of Neal Brown for real this time?
Also, anOSU - Michigan tied at halftime. I know I've said this before, but another loss has to be the end of Ryan Day.
I hope OSU loses. They don't deserve to be in the playoff. The Big Ten is so incredibly overrated.
SEC seems pretty overrated this year too. Which begs the question who is actually rated? I think this was a good year for parity in CFB and unfortunately it doesn't get reported that way nor will the CFP reflect that.
I think there's decent depth in the SEC, maybe not one elite team. But I think the ACC is underrated this year, pretty good depth. Even some of last year's bottom feeders are much better. But the Big Ten is just so overrated IMO. It's OSU and Oregon this year, and snake oil salesman James Franklin hanging around but can never beat OSU. Indiana was a good story for sure.
Gameday was talking this morning that two ACC teams should get in and I agree. But I think way too many SEC teams will get in as a result of all these quality losses.
"Quality" according to ESecPN?
Should have put scare quotes around "quality losses"
ACC making a pretty good showing. GT took UGA to the wire last night, looks like Clemson is going to pull away from little Beams, Louisville is smacking Kentucky. Maybe it just doesn't mean more?
Will not be reported by E$PN.
Did Gus Johnson just go through puberty while announcing that interception?
Here's the replay of it.
stroke?
6 wins in a row to close out the regular season. I know 1 bear that is very pleased.
Sellers for USCe is a straight baller. He's going to make us look silly next year in the opener. He's had several jaw-dropping runs in this game.
I don't know. I mean we have such a strong history of allowing average-to-below average QBs to run wild against us. Maybe with a great running QB, the gods will be confused and let us play well against him?
They are trying to protect the top teams at all costs. Day called back to back time outs around 2min left against Missagain. And instead of the illegal time out, they call them for 12 men on the field...
And it's not as if it will make a difference. I mean, <1% chance OSU does not make the playoffs even with the loss.
Optics. Easier to select a team w 1 loss than 3. (Assuming Oregon beats them in the conference championship...which it was said on espn at half that teams shouldn't be penalized for having to play and possibly lose that extra game....)
Wait, but isn't OSU out of the championship game if Indiana or the Pedophiles win? OSU has 2 conference losses and the others only have 1.
Yes
OHio State goes poof
Ohio State has to be the most overrated team consistently.
South Carolina beats Clemson.
Go Shane!!!
They are chanting Beamer Ball behind him in the interview after the game.
Impressive season by Shane. He's really put together something special down there.
Clemson QB should have thrown that in the dirt or out the back of the endzone no point to throw that to the RB when you were in clear FG range and would have one more shot at the endzone.
Players are fighting after the Michigan/OSU game
#33 from Ohio State better not walk down any dark alleys alone after tearing Michigan flag off the pole and stomping on it.
... typical baffling Ohio State loss. lol
also, they damn sure discourage this line of behavior, but they damn sure aired every minute of that senseless, classless squabble in 4k, didn't they?
Yeah had that thought too. Could have cut the broadcast but instead aired every second of that push fest.
ACC officials already bailing Miami out, wow.
Why avoid the rush? If you do it all game it looks more legit.
something about Syracuse really gets under my fucking skin. Fuck that school, I hope they lose in everything.
Arizona St crushing Arizona. Halfway to Colorado being eliminated from Big XII title game. I think all the scenarios now come down to BYU beating Houston to eliminate Colorado.
NC State up by 4, really hope the UNC missed XP comes into play for the ending of this game.
Edit: NC State evened it out for them 🙄
Miami trying their best to shit the bed at Syracuse. 35-35
42-35 Cuse now. So much time left though.
Miami just handed the win to the Orange
Up 21 in second half, where have we seen that before?
NC St blew this one.
They are winning right?
nc st wins... 35-30
fight on field after game
"Don't turn your back on the Wolfpack
Ya might wind up in a body bag"
Glad to be wrong. Great catch by Rogers for NCST
Cuse just won
Were things rigged by the ACC for SMU v Clemson?
Wow. Well no chance of two ACC teams in the playoff now. Way to go Clemson and Miami sucking!
Shane said after the usc game "no offense to Miami, but I hope Syracuse wins up north tonight."
Quite frankly, the ACC kind of deserves going all out on Miami blowing up in their faces.
That's a team that should have lost 4 or 5 games this year and were bailed out by the refs in 3 of them.
ACC just went from possibly three CFP teams to one.
Would Clemson winning the ACC in a close game not get SMU an at large?
$EC and B1G bias.....
They ain't played nobody pawlllll...
Miami has yet to win an ACC championship. Imagine telling ACC leadership that in 2003. Its beautiful.
Miami has only been in the ACC title game once.
Same as Duke, UVA and Pitt. One less than BC and Wake
Miami has only scored 3 points, total, in their single ACC Championship appearance*
I hate Miami so much. I can't even enjoy this because the world's least deserving Clemson team just backed themselves into a game for an autobid.
How do they have an autobid? The top four seeds are reserved for the top four ranked conference champs. I don't see anything that says any particular conference champ gets an autobid.
There are five auto bids, but only the 4 highest ranked get the BYE.
Ah ok I'm reading the rules now. So five auto bids but only four auto byes? lol great system.
I certainly agree... I'm not a fan of expansion, or the way it played out. I understand why people like autobids, but this Clemson team is exactly the situation where they undermine the regular season. This Clemson team is 9-3, without a single win against a good team. Even the Pitt team they beat didn't have their QB for the game, and they needed a game winning drive to win that one late. Now all the variance that comes with a single game could let them into the playoff over several teams far more deserving with strong resumes, including the South Carolina team that beat them in Death Valley today.
I mean very similar to.the MLB postseason
3 auto bids for division champs, but only the top 2 get the bye
Eric MacLain just now said if Clemson wins ACCCG they have auto bid. Lol no they don't.
There's still a lot to be sorted out. They certainly didn't do themselves any favors by losing to USC.
The winner of the ACC championship game is going to get in the playoffs this year. Question is do they put the loser in.
I think SMU should be in either way. Clemson should only get in if they beat SMU
Cyclones! 10-2 and needing BYU to win for a trip to the championship. I thought they were in with a win, but apparently they need BYU to win as well.
Mack Brown losing his final game feels like some petty vengeance for Frank's last home game being spoiled too.
Brown whining about "this isn't the game I signed up for" is classic UNC.
How are we thinking the playoff shakes out?
It looks like there is really only 1 spot up for grabs next weekend... It's Clemson's if they win it. If SMU wins, then who gets the 12th spot?
Locks:
Big Ten (4) - Oregon, Ohio State, Penn State, Indiana
SEC (3) - Texas, Georgia, Tennessee
ACC (1) - SMU
Notre Dame
MWC Champ- Boise St or UNLV
Big XII Champ- ISU or ASU
Win and In:
Clemson
Bubble:
BYU
Miami
Alabama
Big XII Loser
Boise St (if loss)
From your bubble list, Bama has the best resume by far. I think South Carolina will factor into the bubble convo though. Maybe Ole Miss, but I feel they are more outside looking in.
Have to look at the standings in detail, but off the top of my head, my guess is UNLV does not make it even with a win. After all, we need to make sure Alabama gets in no matter what. Also skeptical SMU gets in if they lose, though they would (presumably) be replaced by Clemson. SMU is very bubble-ish to me if they lose. Can't imagine BYU, Colorado or Big XII loser making it in.
By the way, just went to look at the final standings and this pops up on the feed:
"Why Finebaum views Miami as a fraud after Syracuse loss"
The answer is, of course, because Miami is in the ACC and we have to get Alabama in. No need to read further. If Miami was in the SEC, it was because Syracuse is really good and underrated, so a quality loss and Miami is even more deserving.
I really don't think that is the case, and Alabama has wins over Georgia, South Carolina, Mizzou, and LSU. MIami's best win is Florida? There's no doubt about the SEC getting preferential treatment along with the B1G, but Miami's resume is really not impressive at 10-2 and a lack of quality wins, certainly compared to Alabama's wins. You can maybe argue Florida over LSU given they beat them head to head, but Georgia and South Carolina are two wins that are clearly better than Miami's best win.
Oh yes. Sorry, should clarify. I agree that Miami was vastly over-rated. My point was that if Miami was in the SEC, he would not have said that publicly.
Will be interesting to see how far Miami falls after the loss. Likely it will be conveniently 13th to move Alabama up into top 12 which is utterly ridiculous with their losses. There are too many teams with only one or two losses to have a three loss team in but we all know how it works.
Colorado is not a bubble team. Not even in their conference championship. Don't mind me while I celebrate.
Don't see them putting Boise St in if they lose the MWC unfortunately. If they don't I want Boise to play Colorado in a bowl.
Any bubbles will go the SEC way unfortunately.
As expected they dropped Miami to 14th in the AP Poll. Alabama up to 11. It's just blatant.
Bama loses to 6-6 Oklahoma by 21, drops six spots in rankings.
Miami loses to now ranked #23 9-3 Syracuse by 4 and get dropped eight spots in rankings.
EDIT as Nate23VT reminded me the top 5 conference winners get in, not just the top 4. Adjusted my predictions below.
So, coming back to the original question of who I am thinking will be picked - not who I want or think should be picked, but who will be - I'm guessing this:
0 or 1 AAU - probably 0 as I doubt Army or Tulane is ahead of UNLV if they win and they are definitely below Boise State
1 ACC - SMU-Clemson winner
4 Big 10 - Oregon, Penn State, Ohio State, Indiana
1 Big 12 - Arizona State-Iowa State winner
1 Independent - Notre Dame
1 or 0 MWC - Boise State if they win and probably UNLV if they win
4 SEC - Texas, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama
No way a conference should have three teams with 0 or 1 total losses. Just shows how broken these super conferences are. It would have been four if Ohio State hadn't shit the bed against a 6-5 team.
It really worked out perfectly for the B1G with the schedules to get four teams in easily. It's unbelievable how few of those top teams actually played each other.
5 conference champions get auto-bids. If UNLV wins the only other possibility is Tulane if they beat Army to win the AAC. But even then I think UNLV would jump Tulane due to the quality win over Boise.
Oh sorry. I thought it was just the top 4 got auto bids. Let me adjust.
I don't really understand how Indiana can be seen as a lock but not SMU? The resumes seem very similar to me.
They both had weak schedules, but I think SMU had some tougher opponents overall, and their lone loss looks a lot better now. Indiana just got smacked around by Ohio St. which surprised nobody. I think it's just a matter of IU getting overrated at just the right time to minimize their slide in the rankings.
I agree, Indiana hasn't played ANYONE in wins. The problem is if SMU loses Conf Championship they will have two losses to Indiana's one.
Indiana has one win over a team with a winning record. Wouldn't even have that if Ohio State beat Michigan.
SMU has wins over 5 teams with winning records and only loss is by three to a ranked team.
Indiana
FIU 4-8
WIU 4-8
UCLA 5-7
Charlotte 5-7
Maryland 4-8
Northwestern 4-8
Nebraska 6-6
Washington 6-6
Michigan State 5-7
Michigan 7-5
Lost to Ohio State 38-15
Purdue 1-11
SMU
Nevada 3-10
Houston Christian 5-7
Lost to #19 BYU 18-15
TCU 8-4
FSU 2-12
Louisville 8-4
Stanford 3-9
Duke 9-3
Pitt 7-5
BC 7-5
UVA 5-7
Cal 6-6
Indiana = Big 10.
SMU = ACC.
And if SMU loses to Clemson, they have 2 losses to Indiana's 1. But I'm focused more on the Committee using the following thought process:
Being in SEC > Being in Big 10 > what teams actually did on the field this season.
Hopefully I am wrong.