Dunking the ball over the goalpost will now be a 15 yard Unsportsmanlike Conduct foul after the play.
Another one bites the dust in Goodell's version of Emotionless Football.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10671807/nfl-penalize-goal-post-dunk-n...
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I know what they're thinking - it's just such a travesty to see a player celebrate a scoring play! People don't watch or play sports for excitment, damnit! They do it for the manners! And discipline!
Before you know it, they're going to start handing out consolation prizes to the losers of every game...
I believe that's called their massive paychecks.
At least then the Browns can win something.
Just going to stick this here:
"We don't even have a football team, but I bet we could beat Cleveland"
correction "We don't even have a football team, but I bet we could BEAT Cleveland"
Whoops, correction made
In all seriousness though - messing up the goalposts is a problem. Apparently Graham did that twice last year (and I recall a couple other instances where a big guy scores and screws them up from hanging on them). You have to delay the game to fix it, and I can understand wanting to prevent that, but then why not do something like "If you do this AND you ef up the goalpost, it'll be a penalty and a fine. Dunk at your own risk." Why ban it all? Just make the players take responsibility if they want to continue to risk it by dunking in celebration.
that makes too much sense
but not enough cents
You penalize intent, not result, or else you get into a situation like the NHL has where you see guys getting suspended only if their dirty hits cause another player to get injured.
If your intention is to stop it from happening, make it an automatic penalty. And you're right, it is about players messing up the goalpost alignments and potentially breaking the joists in there. It causes a ridiculous delay. Oooh, nice, you can dunk the ball over the goalposts, good for you. Just spike the stupid thing, yell some incomprehensible babble, mug for the camera, flex, do some silly dance and run off the field. Is that really too hard to do?
Well, there's a huge difference between needing to take a minute or two to fix a goal post and someone getting a traumatic brain injury. The intention is to stop the goals from getting messed up, not to stop the dunking. So if a guy wants to dunk and risk the penalty if he screws it up, fine. But I have no problem with a player expressing himself if it does no harm and isn't obscene.
But what if you don't make it over the goalpost?
It's still 15 yards/Unsportsmanlike. But this time, unsportsmanlike because a true sportsman would make that dunk.
Maybe the penalty should only be applied if you DON'T make it. You know, because that's embarrassing. Your pride and your team must now suffer.
He caught a glimpse of Kam at the last second and panicked.
I caught a glimpse of him in the Super Bowl and panicked.
Yea... Davis' ego was really hurt by the goal post, its about player safety!
Dunking over the goalpost is EXACTLY what i would do if i were athletic enough to play professional football. This is a tragedy.
That was nice of Roger Goodell to wait until Tony Gonzalez retired before rolling out this rule...
He is trying to protect the equipment on the field. Next thing is a penalty for touching the pylon too hard.
"Layups, gentlemen, layups."
Just to piss off Goodell I would do a finger roll that would make the Iceman proud.
Goodell wouldn't be able to hear you...he's too busy counting his stacks. $40M worth if I'm not mistaken.
I can kinda get behind this one. The guys screwed up the goalpost too many times doing it. It never would have been an issue if the posts hadn't gotten screwed up and play have to be halted to fix it.
You would think this wouldn't bother them very much. They could have just fined the player for "damages" and then run a couple commercials while they fix it. Seems like a Win-Win for the NFL.
15 yards on a kickoff... That's not going to stop everyone. Remember when this happened...
which got followed in real life by this...
What would compel Deon Butler to run like that?
Haha that's our flag football team's name. Guess what we do as a celebration when we score...
Remember the old days when TO, Chad Johnson, and Steve Smith would compete every week for the best celebration? None of them were malicious in any way, and I have yet to talk to a fan who didn't think they were hilarious. I remember a few years ago when the Cowboys got a 15 yard penalty because Sam Hurd (I think it was him) ran up next to Roy Williams after a TD and did the Hook 'Em Horns sign. Is that really worthy of a 15 yard penalty? I know the rule is more than 1 player can't be involved, but shouldn't there be some room for the ref to make some logical judgement?
I think next rule will be that you have to gently place the ball on the ground after a play to protect the equipment.
After that, we can say "no touching the ball" as that will cause it to get oil from your fingers on it, and over time that will damage the value of the ball when some kid tries to sell it to the Pawn Stars guys.
You are correct, sir.
Your argument was unassailable and with merit.
I withdraw my support for a rule change that prevents players from performing acts which have been demonstrated to damage on-field equipment, causing a delay in play and not an actual part of the game itself.
UVA should take note. If they have ever find themselves out of timeouts and need to ice a kicker, they should just have a defensive celebration and have a couple players hang from the goalposts, requiring a stoppage in play to repair the damage.
Or they could make snow angels.
you're assuming that they'll have players who could reach the goal posts in the first place....
Again, I stand corrected, I had assumed they'd be smart enough to stand on each other to reach it, like a totem pole. Duh, my mistake yet again.
You are also assuming they will play a close game...
he didn't say the game was close...you assumed that..I'm assuming that loluva tries icing kickers no matter what the situation of the game is...14 min left in the 3rd quarter and their opponent is about to kick a PAT to go ahead by 28 points...BETTER ICE THAT KICKER!!!
Ah...me and my assumptions...you got me
A player dunks the ball over the goalpost - shouldn't James Harrison get fined for that?
I just realized why this rule may have bothered me more than others. The Redskins don't score enough touchdowns with people that can jump that high to have ever had a game delayed from the goalposts being damaged.
Cowherd talked about this on the radio today as I drove to work from class. He thought this was all about insurance. Someone dunks and the goalposts go off-kilter, then you have to wait to have them adjusted, they're still loose, what if it falls and kills someone, etc. Not a risk the NFL wants to have on their insurance.
*Sturdier goalposts!!
*Come on! You think a 200-300 pound person should be able to do that? I think they got cheap with their construction.*
idk man..that's a pretty good amount of torque
Yeah, I mean look at the moment arm you have to consider. 200-300 lbs times what, a good 6-7 feet? That's a lot of torque.
it's also an impact load instead of static...
I'm sorry, I forgot my sarcastica stars...I'll go fix it.
I thought we were going to agree that Comic Sans = sarcastica?
Dang, I guess that football scholarship offer I got was Frank Beamer just trolling the s--- out of me.
I'm pretty sure the subsequent responses were meant in a joking light as well...
At the least I got the sarcasm in the post, I was just adding on
yes all in jest
p.s. I just tried to give everyone legs on this post (blindly) and got a weird message..then I realized I had tried giving my earlier comment a leg...didn't know I couldn't upleg myself...THE MORE YOU KNOW!
haha we used to be able to upvote our own posts. i'm not saying how i know that, i'm just saying.
One of the other rule changes being implemented is to extend the goal posts 5 feet up from the crossbar. That would add more weight to each end and make a crooked post much more noticeable. I wonder if the dunk rule was created because of this?
New rules roundup: Field-goal posts to be extended - NFL.com
That actually does make a lot of sense. Insurance has caused some really stupid rules to be implemented out of the blue.
This guy is on fire today. Love it.
Well as a Panther fan that saw Tony G and Jimmy twice each, every year, I can't say that it was fun for EVERYONE. But I agree with him. haha.
those Taiwanese are at it again
Me every time I see one of these videos:
As long as they never ban the Lambeau leap, I don't care what they ban because the NFL sucks now.