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May get downvoted for this, but here goes...
I don't get why people want "stick it in" so much. I was a freshman in 2004 during the ole' 'stick it in' days, and yes, I would drunkenly dance around and sing along, but it was not a very big part of my Lane Stadium experiences.
The reality is that probably 50% of the crowd would accompnay 'stick it in' with hip thursts, which, given the sexual connotation, is probably a wee bit offensive to some.
Just my $0.02. Although Whit is obviously interested in creating positive fan experiences, I think he can do better than 'stick it in'. All Maroon everything perhaps?
I see nothing offensive about this...
I liked it because it was something that got the entire stadium unified while the team was on offense. Otherwise, it's mostly "stand quietly until something good happens, then go nuts, and repeat." Give the guys a morale boost when they're knocking on the door. The biggest gripe I had was that there was nothing to replace it. We've got Key Plays (awesome), then pretty much nothing unified until it's time for the Hokie Pokie. I guess I started to love "Stick It In" more once it was taken away, and that was just out of principle. Something needs to take its place, whether we bring back the original chant or come up with a new one, we need something.
There we go, Whit - competition for the students - create a new red zone chant and win season tickets or something.
I'm also a fan of #ALLMAROONEVERYTHING but I am not a fan of #ALWAYSMAROONEVERYTHING. Pick a special game each year and unleash the Legion of Doom. Miami (at night) is always a good choice for that. I fully support making it an annual tradition.
I agree with GuitarMan here...I have been clamoring for SII ever since it was taken away, but I realize some may find it offensive. I want Lane to remain classy and be a comfortable destination for families. If SII is too suggestive I can understand getting rid of it. HOWEVER, I do think we should have something in it's place. I liked the cheer, but I'm not opposed to having something else...we just need SOMETHING.
yes, this post is epic!!!! They took a fun, yes sexual chant away and replaced it with 12 noon games. I can see how it is offensive and we need to stay classy, but give us something else to chant/cheer. The Hokie Pokie gets old and the Key Plays .. yeah everyone has keys so that's like common sense.
If Whit were smart.. which we all know he is a genius he will find a way to get the students back into Lane and stay full.
It's really not offensive... We just want to stick the football into the endzone. But that phrase is too long to chant.
Stick-the-foot
Ball-in-to
The-end-zone
Nine syllables exactly. It fits. It just sounds strange.
ALSO, as a former drum line alum, it was one of the greatest drum riffs in our repertoire.
Was an MV for 2003-2007, loved SII more for doing something the entire stadium was into than the innuendo. SII was frequently inappropriate but if you're trying to avoid that sort of thing, you shouldn't zoom in too close to the student section for any cheers, anywhere, ever.
I say go back to the old days man. White for away all maroon for home. Simple
Holy shit! That is hilarious. Didn't know somebody actually did that.
No downvote but I'd personally like to see it back for the following:
-It was unique to LANE/Hokienation. Shaking keys on third down is done in a lot of stadiums, having half of the crowd scream lets go and the other half scream the team name is done in a lot of stadiums, throwing girls in the air after scoring points is done is a lot of stadiums, etc etc. But Stick It In is HokieNation's own.
-The song that accompanied the chant was awesome. That beat, the percussions.... glorious.
-It's a sing-a-long which are always fun.
-The student section's passion has been dwindling. I'm all for anything that could improve that.
-And it's just so damn college, let the kids have fun.
Perspectives change as fans get older but I think the last point hits the nail on the head. When we were students the sexual innuendo that goes a long with it was so very college. And you know what, it should be. This is a university sports stadium on a university campus filled with university students. It's a time to break away and find independence and yes throw some hips around. If you bring your family to a university sports game you expect to see some shit.: Overt Drunkeness, Excessive PDA, Guys with their shirts off. Girls in short shorts or in FSU's case basically no tops whatsoever.
(I'm not complaining)
Are hip thrusts and a sexual connotation to the words that mostly only teenagers are going to understand any worse that actually looking at half naked student bodies?
Let's ratchet down the conservatism and understand the environment we are taking our kids to. As parents you make that decision knowing full well what may come from it, so people shouldn't complain when things like this happen. It's not like people are grinding or bending someone over and slapping their ass.... well, OK that could happen but again you choose the environment.
I for one want a rowdy stadium. I think the banishment of things like "stick it in" is also one of the reasons why the current student body is, shall we say, less adherent to the rules of lane whereby you stand and shout, and pay the phuck attention, the entire time. More traditions that they can grab a hold of that keeps them centered on the game the better.
I forgot what we were talking about...
...Oh Wait!
Is it just me or does it look like the one on the far left belongs in this picture?
cowboy hat...top hat...meh..not quite the same, but I can see where you're going with that
There are cowboy hats in that pic?
They're trying to take our Maroon and Orange!
UConn seems to be doing the Stick It In chant too nowadays. I just think it helps with the crowd environment. It's a college football game with half the student section drunk, no need to pretend that it's a disney event.
Oh, {bleep} naw.
I believe the naval academy does it as well
Yep I see this video of the Naval Academy using the Stick It In chant
damn I guess it's not unique to us. I'm sad now. Thanks a lot man.
we'll just assume we started it and uconn and navy are ripping us off
THIS^^^^ explanation is 100% plausible.
Agreed. I never got the obsession with it. Plus, being a little vulgar, I'm not clamoring for it to return.
I will not downvote, but I wil disagree. Does not matter which side of the rough you putt from, stick it in is the name of the game. This chant should not be censored. And yes...all Maroon, all Everything. Both. Cake and eat it too. That is what cake is for. And pie, yep Pie! Sam Rogers. The end.
Agree with everything minus the cake. #TEAMCREAMPIE
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omfg haha this made me laugh so hard.. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to figure it out
At work anyway.
red zone offense became abysmal as the effects of "stick it in" slowly dwindled out of our football program
Much correlation. Very causation. Football logic. Wow. Stick it in! Stick it in! Stick it in!
Oh Hokiedoge, you give me the gigs.
Much twitter. Very username. Thanks for the handle. Now @HokieDoge. Appreciation. Will start tweeting soon.
Hokiedoge! HAHAHAHAHA
Here's why I want Stick it in back: When I was in high school we got a new band director
freshly graduated from VT. This is was in the late 1990's I graduated in 2000. Anyways of course
we learned a lot of the same songs that the MV's played including all the drum breaks.
Instead of saying "stick it in" we had to say "pump it up". It just brings back a lot of memories from
high school and when I first started going to VT games. Even today when I hear that same drum
break I will still yell STICK IT IN!!
What about PUNCH, POUND, or RAM? They just don't carry the same intensity as STICK. I dunno....maybe STAB IT IN???
Sorry, I think "Ram it in, Ram it in, Ram it in" is just as vulgar and probably more violently vulgar. That said, No complaints if addressed at me in a private circumstance by my special lady.
Ram it would also be more of a VCU or UNC thing. But I want Stick It In chant back.
Maybe poke it in would be more appropriate
"Gobble It In" doesn't come across any cleaner, does it.
DID SOMEONE SAY STAB?
HA-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Downvoting Futurama?
Apparently I fat fingered it without noticing.
How about Rodgers it in!!!!!!!!
There's no "D" in "Rogers". Take that any way that you like.
For those who are interested, the MVs did come up with a drum rhythm to replace "stick it in." I know it's not the same charm, and it doesn't unify the student section nearly as much, so I can't help you there.
However, the MVs all have dances to the drum cadences (much like how stick it in had it's own "dance") - and if you want one to do in the student section, pay attention to the baritones (the best dancers in the band). We call it "The Frank Beamer."
Stick it in and Six are NOT the same. Six was "Na na na na, hey hey hey, good-bye" which was also banned due to poor sportsmanship.
Sorry. Need more sleep, I've fixed it
I want six back more than I want stick it in back, and that's saying something. Sportsmanship is for before and after the game. During the game it's "Bring it on!".
I still dont understand how informing the other team that its time to go start the bus and saying goodbye to them are poor sportsmanship. Seems like goodwill and fair play to me.
#SIX!
I'm with you except for the "best dancers" bit. That goes to the 'Nets.
Nonsense.
I'm with you on this one, at least from my time there. The Tones take that one. Sorry. Though I tried to inject some creativity into the Bones, it seems to have fallen off from what I can see from the west stands.
Does anyone know the Wobble song? It's big in New Orleans / down south. Lyrics pretty much just go 'wobble baby wobble baby wobble baby wobble' over a catchy drum line and a ridiculously awesome line dance that accompanies it. Pretty sure we should turn this into 'gobble baby gobble baby gobble baby gobble' and all lose our minds in dance and song.
SOMEONE CALL WHIT.
SOMEONE ELSE CALL THE MARCHING VIRGINIANS AND MAKE THEM DO THIS.
lol good luck getting Sochinski to score that. Would love to see that, though.
pretty much anyone can score music for stand tunes. Sochinski mostly does the halftime stuff. Grad assistants score pep songs all the time and they try them out. If its popular with the band and sounds good, they play it at games. The biggest hurdle is getting the director to sign off on it and add it to the book.
And also paying for the rights to play the songs
To further the necessity for this, the lyrics before the hook go like this...
"Get in there, yeah yeah. Get in there, yeah yeah. Gobble baby gobble baby gobble baby gobble"
That sounds like the best red zone chant in America. Someone post a Youtube link. I can't at work.
Gobble Gobble
lol if Stick it in is still considered offensive, no chance in hell this ever sees the light of day in Lane
Hahaha gobble baby gobble baby gobble baby. That's epic. I'm gonna have to start saying it that way everytime I hear the song.
That's not a bad idea for a chant at all. @Alum07 I don't see how that could be considered offensive. "Gobble baby, get in there" Not offensive at all and get in there fits the endzone theme.
maybe it's just me and my mind is in the gutter...but 'gobble baby' could be construed as an idiom suggesting fellatio..thus, probably viewed as offensive
Pretty sure thats also the intent with the lyrics themselves
The original phrasing from the song is Wobble. Referring to a young lady's rear-end moving back and forth.
As PC as I could put it.
Wobble- verb
1.move unsteadily from side to side.....Kinda like twerking, or maybe even stumbling. hahah
If you dig hard enough I'm sure you can find some sort of connotation in any sort of cheer or chant.
Oh yea true, good point. Wasn't thinking about that but cmon we're the hokies aka gobblers, it's fitting.
And the original lyrics are "wobble" not gobble so nah I don't think that's the original intent to the lyrics.
Oddly, I'm OK with this idea.
Wasn't this song really big like a year or two ago? I'm pretty sure I heard it everywhere my senior year.
Did you ever see the "Gobble Gobble B*tches" shirt? I always meant to buy one.
Maybe the loss of an encouraging jingle is why the team struggled so much the last 2 years in the red zone. At this point I'm willing to do whatever it takes to see more TD's inside the 20.
I actually would like to see stick it in brought back (signed the petition and everything). However, when you're all standing, having someone do hip thrusts behind you can be a little disturbing (according to my wife). And let's be honest, the real appeal is just anything that everyone will get into. So it doesn't have to BE stick it in, just something that's easy, fun, and has mass appeal //insert your mom joke here.
Also, I'm probably late to the party with this, but I hope you laugh:
That's just great
I forgot what the hell we were talking about when I hit the metallicat. Does VT own a metallicat? Has VT looked into what it would cost to own a metallicat?
Even more pressing issue: can it run on a treadmill?
#AllTheThings On #AllTheTreadmills
Team Stick it in baby, all the way.
I'm kinda tired worrying about whether or not some people may or may not be offended.
Is it unique? Yep.
Does it work? Yep.
Shoot, what cheer, dance, song, etc doesn't have sexual innuendo?
So....Stick it in, THEN follow up the touchdown with the Gobble Baby song/dance.
And there was much merriment in Hokie-land.......
(and much bourbon and pies were consumed.)
I graduated before the Stick it In deal...so I don't miss it.
I would say, I wouldn't want to take my son and daughter to a game with people behind us doing hip thrusts and yelling stick it in however....
I am sure we can think of something else without having 50% of the stadium doing hip thrusts.
If you think of it from the perspective of people bringing families to the game, then maybe you will think of it different?
Thats my opinion.
I agree with you as well. Having a daughter I can't say I want her to experience that. From a family perspective I'm sure there are other ways to get the entire stadium involved. We've got Enter Sandman, but I'm sure we could come up with something else as well. Someone mentioned in another post For Whom The Bell Tolls, why can't we have something like that? That giant bell when we get down there to throw off the defense?
The family angle makes sense...somewhat. I was at the Duke game this year (first one back in Lane in way too long of a time) and the eff bombs, s-words and the like were ever present. Let's not act like taking a kid to a game won't require some sort of explaining at some point (adults get mad/happy and use foul language, etc). Hell while they are young just tell them it's a dance. Personally, I'm less offended as a parent by the Stick It In cheer than I am by the fights, yelling inappropriate things at refs/opponent and the like. There are FAR more offensive things that happen on TV, in school, etc, that saying something with a slight sexual innuendo should be completely banned is low on the list. Just my 2 cents.
Yes.
How hypocritical for the fans standing in front of me to feign offense to the students cheering 'stick it in' while said fan is yelling 'F- this or that' every other play while getting plastered, etc, etc etc.
Completely agree. When we played JMU my sophomore year - I think, Kevin Jones got hit really late out of bounds and the student section started a F*** you JMU chant. Add that to the bs chant and I think the "Stick it in" chant is pretty tame. I don't have any kids of my own so I can't completely relate, but when I take my nephew to a game there are far more things to worry about. Kids believe a fat guy slides down a chimney and brings them presents...and you're telling me you can't explain away the "Stick it in" chant?
late hit is an understatement on that one.
Call me a hypocrit but my wife and I cuss on the reg but will beat our kids for doing it. We're adults, they're children life isn't fair, get over it! If you cuss around our kids they know not to repeat it, if you cuss AT my kids then you deal with dad.
What if we just got rid of the hip thrusts????? Problem Solved!!!!!!!!
yes, that would solve the problem. And yes, when I was in school, me and my friends skipped the hip thrusts (we opted for shaking our fists or pointing or something that wouldn't knock the girl in front of us down a row). I just don't think we can trust the maturity of students or even alumni (have you read half the posts on this thread) to abstain. that said, I did sign the petition under the principle that the AD had no right to ban it.
and while we're talking hip thrusts
Let's not act like college kids doing hip thrusts is the most offensive/scandalous thing they do...that day even.
How about we do the reverse? Get rid of the Stick It In song and ONLY do the hip thrusts?
I hate to say it, but hearing someone say "stick it in, stick it in, stick it in" and hip thrust is NOT the most inappropriate thing you will see or hear at a football game in Blacksburg. It's a college campus, lighten up and let the kids (and me) have fun.
Best idea yet...How about we just kick some a$$ on the football field and not worry about hip thrusts and sticking it in??
I prefer to do my hip thrusts in the comfort of my own home...
I prefer doing hip thrusts in the comfort of your own home too [ducks] j/m
Maybe we shouldn't be bringing our children to COLLEGE games. I will probably be down voted for this
but I wasn't allowed to go to VT games until I was in my teens and could handle being around
an adult atmosphere.
I concur, I think a lot of people get a little too worked up about the environments they find at a college football game on a college campus full of college students.
I mean, honestly, what did you expect? Holding hands and sing-a-longs? That's what they do up in boo-hooville.
And Notre Dame. Don't forget Notre Dame.
First of all, I HAVE taken my kids to Hokies games and I have had no problems. Its a great experience. Of course, no drunken guy was hip thrusting behind us.
My kids hear bad language and have seen me drinking...thats not an issue.
Telling people that they shouldn't bring kids to games is ridiculous however...it is COLLEGE, but it is also Virginia Tech. Alumni and their families have just as much right to be at a game and enjoy it as students do.
I went to that COLLEGE...I have taken my kids to that COLLEGE...I have had no problems.
I was not worked up over Stick It In...
I have never even been at a game when Stick It in was done.
I don't expect sing a longs and holding hands...I find your post pretty condescending actually.
I am surprised that fellow Hokies would act like this over a chant...discouraging people from bringing their kids, basically mocking me for not being a 100% supporter of Stick It in? Go figure...
I don't believe you are actually reading the comments correctly.
Amber, RocketHokie, vtfly and I are saying that you as the parent choose to take your kids into the environment. No one else. Certainly none of us. However, if you choose to take them to Lane for a game then there is an obvious expectation of sophomoric behavior, including hip thrusts.
If you want to take your kids to Lane, as I do, then you know what to expect. No point in you getting agitated, or calling anyone's comment idiotic, that we are pointing out that it's your decision.
Of course it is my decision..just as it would be for you to bring your kids or your family. I DO bring my kids...I will continue to bring my kids. I just don't care about Stick it in. I didn't complain about ANYONES behavior. I don't mind drunk people...I don't mind cursing. I used to one of the drunk people yelling things at the games.
I am not offended by anyones behavior at Hokie games....I didn't complain about anyone doing anything. I simply said I prefer to not have the hip thrusting around me.
I never said to BAN anything and I would never tell another Hokie they shouldnt bring their kids to a game.
What I do find offensive is the suggestion that kids shouldn't be at the games and condescending comments about sing-a-longs and hand holding.
Yeah, dude, you still cannot comprehend the original intent of the comment. At this point I'm not sure why.
First, I didn't say you wanted to ban anything.
Second, I'm glad you take your kids to the game.
Third, being that it's a college environment there may be some hip thrusting going on whether to Stick it In or not. Is that really such an issue for you that someone near you is thrusting their hips in the air that it spoils the game experience? If you are focused on the game you should barely even notice this. I never did.
Fourth, no one is suggesting kids shouldn't be at the game. They are saying that if you the parent feel hip thrusts, or any specific thing, is bad then choose not to go or not to take your kids. But that's your choice and responsibility.
Fifth, don't be a dick and call someone's comment idiotic when you haven't understood it.
woah woah woah, did I say anything about bringing kids or not to the games? Is the word "kid" even in my post? no. I was just saying there's some behavior that should probably be expected at a college football game.
I wasn't mocking anyone for supporting anything. I was simply saying college kids tend to be rowdy, loud, obnoxious, and inappropriate in these sort of events and situations. Anyone who thinks or expects otherwise is going to be disappointed. What you do with your kids is of zero business to me.
A lot of future Hokie fans are made by watching the game with their dads though. And nothing probably stands out more to them than actually being at the stadium. Now I'm not saying that everyone should bring their kids to every game, but I don't think it's a bad thing for Hokies to bring their kids every once and a while.
I don't think she's saying not to bring your kids, but rather you as a parent decide when you do and what issues there may be with it.
As a parent it's your responsibility to make those decisions. When my kids are old enough to get what's going on and enjoy it I'll be bringing them, one cheer doesn't change my mind one way or another about it.
Thank you vtfly.
And if it does concern anyone to bring kids to a game, there is a side of the stadium that is more "family friendly" - West Side Stands have always seemed a little more at ease, so to speak.
Yep. That's how I became a fan. I went to a game with my Dad. When he felt I was ready.
Really? You try living with my little girls when I don't let them go to a Hokie Football game.
I don't bring them to the student section, of course but let's not pretend that being on a University campus is any excuse for truly offensive behavior.
I haven't seen anything yet that's been too bad, but I eventually expect to see some streaking or something.
I'm not going to be go poking through bushes looking for what might be happening there but, in public, out in the open, I don't expect to have to explain anything more than "Oh, you'll under stand in a few years, they're just having fun."
I don't want to have to explain reproduction and it's precursor activities or drugs, other than alcohol.
Yeah, but that's your personal decision to bring them. You want everyone else to follow the standards you've set for your daughters. I respect your parenting but how is that any different than someone wanting the same for their own game experience? No one is saying offensive behavior should be accepted but at the same time there is a reason I'm not taking my daughter to a strip club or a louis ck comedy hour. But I think this is BIG difference than some hip thrusting and yelling stick it in.
I have a daughter and honestly I would bring her to Lane with a crowd full of fans yelling Stick It In any day of the week. I would even teach her the chant sans the hip thrusts. It's only sexual if you personally make it so.
Virginia Tech games are for everyone. I went to COLLEGE at Virginia Tech and I DO like the option to bring my kids if I want. I don't have a problem with the Stick It in...my problem would be with people all around me doing hip thrusts. I don't know if that happens or not since I haven't experienced it...
Maybe you should re-evaluate what Hokie football is about if you think kids shouldn't be at the games.
Her point is that you are taking your kids into an environment that EVERYONE expects to have some sort of raucous behavior. If you went to VT then you know that students tend to drink at games, on warm days students (boys and girls) tend to wear less clothes. Sometimes a lot less. that there is sometimes excessive amount of kissing and petting going on with said drunk students. Excessive swearing.
As a parent all of this should be expected. Why? Because it's a university filled with 20 year old kids. To bring your children into an environment such as a university and not understand that there is a potential to see these things is what is idiotic. Your the parent. Make the decision based on facts. If you are worried about your kids seeing these things then you need to make the tough call and not bring them.
I bring my kids to the games and have NO PROBLEMS with any of this. I have brought them already and am not complaining about ANYONES behavior.
You are missing the point. I just said I don't care about Stick it In....I didn't say ban anything, or complain about any of the fans or students.
I don't care about swearing, I don't care about drinking....I enjoy tailgating...You are way off base.
How exactly am I off base? You don't understand the original comment and then say it's idiotic. Then you say that you've had no problems at games bringing your kids to a college environment.
What exactly am I missing?
Fernley...obviously we aren't on the same page here. My entire point on my original comment was that I never experienced Stick It In and I didn't miss it because of that. Given the choice, I would prefer to not have hip thrusting around me....That was IT...I didn't ask for anything to be banned, I didn't say I wouldn't bring my kids to a game. I didn't say I had experienced anything bad or offensive.
I didn't ask for parenting advice...those comments were necessary since I wasn't complaining about anything at all or complaining about my kids having a bad experience. It hasn't happened and I don't expect that it will. That is what bothered me...there was no reason for anyone to start doling out parental advice.
Ok. But let me point out that the parenting advice that you believe people are giving you is written in the third person. No one is saying you specifically. Yet you are taking it as specific commentary on your parenting.
As RocketHokie said, how you parent your kids has zero to do with us.
What about the people who are obscenely drunk or shout profanity or getting into fights? Should tailgating get banned because I don't want my kid seeing drunk people? There will always be something that you don't want your kids to experience/see going on. It's your CHOICE as a parent when to potentially expose them to it. Not everything can be banned.
Tailgating is heaven. Who said anything about banning tailgating??
Getting into fights? Yes, that should be banned...in fact, it IS banned. Shouting profanities? Probably not fitting in with the image of this great school, but if you want to yell obscenities, knock yourself out.
I drink...I will drink in front of my children at a tailgate.
I am not in support of banning anything...I didn't ban Stick It in...
Where is this coming from? Because I don't want hip thrusts around me??
No...its more the global point there is always SOMETHING offensive so where should the banning stop? If someone is sloppy drunk and throwing up on my kid's shoes and I don't like it then ban it.
The point is you find one thing offensive so it should be banned but everything else is fine with you so it's fine. I find another thing offensive should it also be banned?
It's our responsibility as parents to choose where and what to expose our kids to knowing what's going on.
You are taking a personal offense and I'm not making a personal attack. I'm just trying to get you to see the other side of the argument.
WHO SAID TO BAN ANYTHING?
HEY HEY HEY! EVERYONE! I didn't wanna bring this out, but
That is the entire point of the thread! Stick it in was banned!
Right...by Weaver...Not by me. I never supported banning anything. Comments about banning tailgating and sing a longs were directed at me for no reason. (I guess because I didn't support hip thrusts or because I mentioned bringing my kids to a game)
I'm pretty sure you're the one who saw general statements and took them exceedingly personally. Nobody once said "man, that vhokie guy banning stick it in! boo on him!" Just chill out.
Did you ever see me mention banning ANYTHING in any of my posts? Where did the BANNING come from? Not me...
I guess I will continue to come to The Key Play for good solid parenting advice from you...
"It's our responsibility as parents to choose where and what to expose our kids to knowing what's going on."
Thanks for that...
Chill out. No need to be an ass
Feel free to down vote me for not supporting hip thrusts and parenting advice from strangers.
Knock yourself out.
"Frankly thats a complete idiotic comment."
Smh. The irony is strong with this one.
Exactly. It's like bringing your kid to an "R" rated movie and then complaining about the language and drug use.
No, that's a pretty poor analogy.
This topic could be discussed for hours and hours and days and days.. At a young age I would never have put the 2 +2 together and think oh hey Stick It In= some sort of sexual meaning.. add the hip thrusts and I still would be a little weary about it.
To me this issue is more with the older crowd.. yes i said it.. With that being said the older/alum are the ones that bring in the $ and support the school with funding and other things.. If you have an alum who decides you know what that 50k I sent in, I'm not going to do that this year because of Stick It In.. that would be devastating and I'm sure that was the message.
I don't think/hope Weaver took it out due to some alumni complaining without looking at what they donate/have donated. There was some reason behind this madness other than some alumni/people complaining.
Wouldn't be so sure. Weaver HATED it and looked for an excuse to ban it. Asked him about it at an even down here and when it was asked whether or not we'd ever hear it again, he QUICKLY replied "not on my watch" in a sharp manner that made it very clear to leave that topic alone.
well good thing its now Whit's Watch and not that old broken one. I wonder if a media person/student will ask him about Sticking It in?
He'll be down here in April for a Hokie Club event. I can ask him about it then
You my friend are just great!! Legs for you!
Nice!
Just my opinion, but Kirstie Alley is pretty much the antithesis of what I consider attractive in a woman.
That's not Kirstie Alley, its Kristen Johnston from 3rd Rock From the Sun. She also portrayed Ivana Humpalot and played chess with Austin Powers in The Spy Who Shagged Me, among other roles.
That's not Kirstie Alley, it's Kirsten Johnson of Third Rock From The Sun. She's like 6'-1" or so.
Thanks guys.
But that doesn't change my mind about Kirstie Alley.
No disagreement from me on that one. Kristen Johnson's legs however....
I've always wondered what would happen if the students still did the cheer. Weaver can really only control the band... so really, why did we stop doing it? I mean he still took away Thursday night games, schedule ECU for 50 years all at noon...
Was there ever any consequences discussed?
people tried to do it, the problem was without the drums to follow, not many people could keep it together, so it sounded like chaotic yelling and hip thrusting instead of stick it in.
I'm not remembering the drums at all. that gives me the sads.
Was it difficult? Or could say a group of enterprising students bring some snares and replicate it so that the crowd could follow?
That's what I was gonna say. Shit, I'd bring my own trumpet or bugle or my conch shell horn.
Somebody posted this on another thread, but this is it.
That's how it's supposed to be done! I think if a dozen or so students bring drumsticks to the games and bang out this cadence on the bleachers there's NOTHING they could do to stop it. Also from the soundbite it would seem they scored after the chant.
I think they would eventually ban bringing drum sticks on. Or, at least, Weaver would have for sure. Who knows what Whit would do. I assume someone has brought this up, but if they're still selling stick it in shirts (which I know they are because I bought one the last time i was in Blacksburg, 2 years ago), clearly people still know about it. If the university is still profiting from SII, that should be reason enough to bring it back in some incarnation.
Noisemaking devices are already banned, I believe by the ACC. The SII shirts are also not being sold by the university, they're from the shops downtown that license VT stuff, but SII are not part of that. They just conveniently happen to be printed in maroon & orange.
mmmnn...such sweet symphony...
The problem when we tried to start it without the drums was most people would start with the "oh" and then people would hear it halfway through and not know which "oh" we were on and yeah it was just a mess. I tried to get people to start on "stick it in, stick it in, stick it in" then proceed to the song so it was clear where we were but it never worked. So any current students reading this, make it happen! Just start with the three stick it ins so everybody's on rhythm.
My friends and I did it a couple times last year with zero consequences. Granted I was the only one who knew the thing and they kind of fumbled through it each time, but we were right in front of security. So I'm guessing they weren't told anything by the athletic department.
i know when i was at VT games in 07 we tried to do it countless times in the NEZ but it really did become chaotic. Think one game someone managed to sneak in an ipod with the band playing it and it having speakers. Still didnt work out
If that's the case then we need to start a kickstarter to bring it back.
I went to my first ever VT football game in 2003, against Boston College, when my family went up for @BilldozerVT's recruiting visit. I was 13 years old and had no idea what the rules of football were and none of my family or friends were Hokies (yet), so I didn't really know what was going on. One of my only memories from that game is two drunk guys in probably their late-30s about 3 rows back.
I just remember them standing up while everyone else was sitting down in the upper West Stands and shouting what I came to later realize was the "Stick It In" cheer. I'd never heard it before, but I remember thinking that they looked like they were having a blast. I'd never really seen anyone enjoy a football game so much and they were really getting into it, even though Tech was losing.
I never once thought of any sexual connotation at the time and it never did until years later when I found out that it had been banned. Since I never got the chance to join the fans in Lane in shouting "Stick It In," I can't really say that I miss it, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed that I never got the chance to join the rest of the students in the chant. I really feel like the issue was overblown, and I can think of worse things that drunk students could be shouting.
Personally, I wish it were not banned. I've spent years shouting other fun things ("NO TWEEDY, IT'S WHIP!", etc.), but never did get that chance to yell "Stick It In" with the rest of Lane Stadium and I still feel robbed. I don't think Whit will explicitly un-ban it, but I think that a big enough movement can make him turn a blind eye, provided big donors don't cry.
I feel like asking people for their address and stuff like that we'll deter some people from signing up
Guys something has come to my attention... Weaver was the AD... Key word WAS I wonder what would happen if the Band just decided hey lets play it and see if Whit even knows about the whole debate. I bet he would be right there in the middle with Buzz Bud and Beamer's chanting it.
I don't see Dave McKee (Director of the MVs) pushing the limits due to a grey area. The last thing he wants is to get on the wrong side of athletics.
Grey area...??? oh no he would be pushing it into a choas of #ALLMAROONEVERYTHING
As a current MV in the drumline, I can say two things...we will definitely be in Dave's ear about it, and he is not likely to let us play it without express consent from Whit. I believe that Weaver had originally told him he'd lose his job if the band played it even once, which is why we don't currently. He loves Stick It In, and during the marshall game this year, he even said aloud "I wish we could play Stick It In right now", but he won't risk his job over it. If Whit gives him permission, Stick It In will definitely make its way back to Lane. If Whit doesn't, you probably won't hear it again until there's both a new band director and a new athletic director at Tech. At that point, it may have been so long that you won't hear it at all.
Perhaps Dave can call it something else...like the "Goal Line March"
It's cool, grey used to be a school color.
So it's all settled. STICK IT IN...back in.
Some of yall are really tripping over hip thrusts and a stick it in double meaning. If your kids are so young that you're worried about hip thrusts, then don't you think they're too young to even put two and two together? Seriously.
And if they are old enough to put two and two together, then they're probably saying, maybe doing worse things, and definitely watching things worse than a stick it in cheer when you're not home. Seriously. (not trying to criticize anyone's parenting skills, I'm sure hokienation produces the best parents out, but kids gon be kids.)
The only thing that I'll say in the overly conservatives defense is, the overly drunk people and pda and swearing isn't university sponsored, whereas the stick it in cheer would be. I get that but still, cmooon loosen up a bit, have a beer or two, and have some fun in LANE.
I am tripping over the condescending attitude of a few people on this message board...people who feel this is the forum to hand out parenting advice and make condescending comments.
I don't care if they bring back Stick it in...I don't have a problem with ANYTHING at a Hokie game. Drinking, cursing, and hip thrusts would not keep me from going to a game. I don't support banning anything.
(except unsolicited parenting advice and comments from fellow Hokies telling alumni not to bring kids to games...I will support banning that)
I am not sure you and I are reading the same thread
petebuddywilson...here is what I said: (somehow that resulted in me getting accused of wanting to ban things)
"I graduated before the Stick it In deal...so I don't miss it.
I would say, I wouldn't want to take my son and daughter to a game with people behind us doing hip thrusts and yelling stick it in however....
I am sure we can think of something else without having 50% of the stadium doing hip thrusts.
If you think of it from the perspective of people bringing families to the game, then maybe you will think of it different?
Thats my opinion."
Somehow that was construed as me wanting to ban things and then morphed into me being told to not bring my kids to a COLLEGE game.
No one told you not to bring your kids, and no one is telling you how to be a parent. That clearly wasn't the intent and that comment was well clarified. Reading through the comments, there seems to be very little difference in opinion on the actual thread topic between your comments and all the idiotic a$$hole ones.
Oh awesome, an advocate for censorship within TKP..... yay....
Please oh please oh please let this thread devolve into a virtual pissing contest between those who have kids going all Vietnam Vet with the "YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU WEREN'T THERE" and those without kids jabbing back with the "I might not have kids, but I know how to pick out terrible parenting when I see it", all the while the original meaning of the thread getting lost in the wilderness. Lets totally go there, I mean seriously. Only good can come out of it.
Sorry I started something here guys I apologize. That really was not my intention at all.
NO! Don't you DARE apologize. You said NOTHING wrong.
Really??
"Maybe we shouldn't be bringing our children to COLLEGE games."
In my book, that is wrong.
holy crap, guy. The whole point is this: "If your child is too delicate to handle hip thrusts and the words 'stick it in' repeated three times, then no, don't bring them to a college game, because they could see that and things far worse (like f-bombs)." If your kids aren't too delicate, then bring as many as you'd like. Just be responsible. How is this a wrong comment? And how are you taking this so personally?
I didn't complain about Stick it in...I didn't say I was offended by anything. I didnt say I wouldnt bring my kids. Given the choice, I will pass on the hip thrusts...thats all.
Somehow this thread morphed into a social commentary from several of you about making responsible choices with our children and the suggestion that kids shouldn't come to games.
We all have preferences...I am sure you would prefer not to have someone yelling the F-bomb in your ear all game and throwing up on your favorite sweater, right? But would that keep you from coming to a game? Probably not...
Me neither.
I come to this board for friendly discussion about the team we love...
I didn't say my kids were delicate...I didn't complain or ask to ban anything.
Being responsible about our kids is common sense and a string of comments regarding that topic was not needed.
Honestly, I am surprised at some of your comments.
Dude I've been uplegging most of your posts. But you're taking that completely out of context.
Don't apologize for someone who can't understand your comment and is taking this WAY too personally. What you said was clear, precise and correct. I would give you more turkey legs if I could.
Thank you fernley.
Hey, what about lovable ol' Bender? I'M THE GREATEST, BABY!
Thanks to you too Bender! :)
my pleasure
Oh yes!!!!! :)
While we're at it, I say we ban the hokey pokey. It's offensive. "Pokey," don't think I don't know what you're talking about. Aint nobody pokeying around my kids.
exactly. cause there's no hip thrusting going on when we do the hokey pokey....
..I thought THAT was what it was all about?
The hokey pokey, it'll get after ya.
Folks, let's put it this way:
1) You are allowed to bring your kids to VT football games. It's a public sporting event, you buy the tickets, you can bring your kids, wife, brothers, grandma, whoever.
2) It's a public sporting event, college students are allowed to go, and they are allowed to behave how they want, within the confines of the law of course. So streakers will be punished, but if a bunch of kids start thrusting and yelling "stick it in" it really doesn't matter how you feel about it because you have no right to do anything about it.
So that being said, whether you want to bring kids to VT football games is up to you, and I think it could be a great experience, but remember that a large number of college aged kids will be there as well, and they will expect as college aged kids do. And let's be frank, did you really not do anything vaguely inappropriate/suggestive/offensive when you were in college?
THIS^^^^
Your comments just underscore what I am trying to say....I have never been offended in any way whatsoever at a Hokie game. My kids are not scarred for life and have enjoyed the games.
I was a drunken wreck at Hokie games as a student...I hope I never offended anyone, but I probably did.
I don't want anything banned. I don't support banning anything.
Exactly. It also underscores what everyone else has been saying, which is why reading through these comments has been more confusing than trying to figure out what actually happened in The Prestige.
I know...you think one of those clones would decide the show was over and wasn't going to kill himself that night.
I read your points and I do agree with them after careful consideration. bravo, you got me.
Although at that age I did some things that were probably inappropriate/suggestive/offensive, being in college was/is not an excuse for bad behavior. The issue is the definition of what is considered "bad". Statisically, college students are in the minority when it comes to making that definition.
Anyway, some reasons why SII may have been banned: Big $ donors gave Weaver an ultimatum, parents (who pay the bills) watching their college age kids acting up on TV or at the game. There is a lot of sensitivity from the administration about sexual assualts on campuses around the country. It means they have to be concerned about the school's image regarding demonstrations of sexual promiscuity (right or wrong, the association of football players and sexual assaults). Maybe some politicians threatened to hold back school funding. Maybe the TV broadcasters had concerns. I think it had more to do with money than anything else.
I personally don't mind the cheer. If there was a way to sanitize to overcome the above objections then it could return. Get creative people! We have a chance for a new start with a new AD. It could be time for a new and better cheer.
When my SO was 9 or 10 she and her sister (two years her junior) went to the championship game in NO with their parents...they joined in to the "Ho-mo-sex-uals" toma-mock chant with their parents...at the ages of 7ish to 10ish two little girls screaming "homosexuals" at the top of their lungs...their parents were fully aware that that was happening and they just rolled with it...they turned out to be great people and now they both have a memorable football moment for the rest of their lives...I see nothing wrong with Stick It In....but if some fans aren't comfortable with it we need to find a viable replacement. GuitarMan said it earlier, and I agreed, we need to have SOMETHING to keep fans engaged. Getting rid of the chant altogether without any replacement was a bad decision IMO.
And now we have... paper airplanes...
See what happens, we get rid of a little pelvic thrusting and everything goes to sh*t.
(Joke commentary- though paper airplanes at games ARE SO STUPID)
IIRC the paper airplanes stemmed from students printing off student tickets....I think it's a waste of paper and I think there are plenty of other options we could explore to admit students to the games more efficiently. I don't see why we can't have scanners for students to scan their Hokie Passport at the gate to get in. Once in, the designated student sections should be first come first served seating. That will eliminate paper airplanes. It will also get rid of the groups people try to set up with all their friends so they can sit together. Just arrive at the gate with your friends. As a student, you can also get to experience different parts of the student section...you won't always be stuck in the same place all season long. All I see is upside...
I wouldn't like a first come first serve seating because I like maximizing my time tailgating, and I also like sitting in the North End zone. That would be the first to fill and I would hate to have to leave tailgating a lot earlier just to get in there. But I do agree on getting rid of paper. I think all tickets should be like the one's you pick up through the lottery system
As it is now, the stadium is getting more and more people showing up late to the game. I'm all for tailgates, but I'd love it if every seat was full for Sandman.
I tailgated for every game this year and I have yet to miss Enter Sandman. I have it down to an exact science as to when I have to stop grilling, clean up, and start walking. I would make it to my seat every time with about a minute or two to spare. So I don't think punishing me by making me have to leave earlier to get a good seat would necessarily be fair.
I agree about wanting the stadium to be full but I don't put that on tailgating, that's more because students just don't care as much.
I've only ever missed Enter Sandman once...it was the night game where I think Darius Rucker sang the National Anthem and the security was RIDICULOUS! In line for 30 damn minutes just to get into the game...
well if we didn't have so many damn noon games we could tailgate more AND get to the stadium early to get good seats..I also think having all those noon games hurt attendance...when I was in college Friday night was a BIG night and it was tough to get up early on Saturday
Point-counterpoint:
If a few people find something offensive, and the majority of people don't find it offensive, or at the very least don't care one way or the other, is it really the majority's obligation to stop said offensive thing? I know this happens a lot in this country, where one or a few people alter the course of things for everyone because they don't like it.
Purely observational/non-scientific unbiased post here. Just curious what people think, and not just on the "stick it in" chant, but maybe on similar things.
THIS^^^^
I personally believe we've grown soft as a nation...and that saddens me. It's a reality we live with though. I don't get my feelings hurt easily. I usually go for the path of least resistance. I try to just roll with the punches and work with what I'm given. The cheer was taken away. We can debate whether the chant should have been taken away or not until HOAT is 6 ft under, but that won't change anything. I liked it while it lasted...I'm living my life normally without it. I would like for Whit to find ways to keep the fans engaged, and I think he will.
I think you have a good point though...I think that the vast majority is affected by the actions of few...but that's a whole other debate I don't want to get into
Look whats going on with the Washington Redskins right now...
You can't see it, but I am thrusting my hips at all of you right now....
This is ridiculous...lets just convert me to tight end and call it a day...
day!
I will always wear my Stick it In tshirt regardless
Personally, I'd love to see Stick It In brought back, but telling people they shouldn't take their kids to college games is ridiculous. Maybe it could've been better stated like "if you don't want your children being around drunken college students who do questionable things, then leave the kids at home." But telling someone they shouldn't bring their kids is stepping over the line. When I have children you better believe they will get to experience Lane very early.
I would really think the best way to build a huge fanbase of life long fans, would be to indoctrinate the kids to Hokie football early on. My kids, although they may never go to Virginia Tech, are diehard Hokie football fans and probably will be for life.
I have such great memories of Hokie football games that it really is special to have my children experience the glory also...I want my kids to share in the fun and have lasting memories of the experience.
The problem here is that it's already banned (thanks a lot Weaver). Whit strikes me as the kind of guy that, if it was around when he became AD, he wouldn't have cared about it and would have let it go, but I don't think it would look very good for him to go out of his way to bring it back. I would love if he did though.
Flashback story: 2012 game against Miami right before Logan punched it in with that beautiful run, my section was doing a poor version of the Stick It In Chant. Keep in mind that absolutely nobody around us was following our lead or in all likelihood had any idea what the hell we were actually doing. If I recall correctly, between 3rd and 4th down (might have been between 2nd and 3rd) a girl I was talking to at the time who was in the row behind me yelled at me because I was thrusting to violently (sorry vhokie for the thrusting) and I replied back, "You haven't seen nothing yet!". Well, as well all know, Logan goes on to run that touchdown in for the score. Safe to say I also had my own score that night too! Had to prove that that she really hadn't seen nothing yet!
My daughter's favorite video is (still) Gangnam Style. Elevator guy and all.
Ok, I probably could've done fine without this.
I love the cheer. Bought a #StickItIn t-shirt last year at homecoming, which was the first home game we took my 7 year old too. We live in SC and the other day my wife decided we should take the girls to walk around the neighborhood. I couldn't figure out why I kept getting weird looks from some neighbors. I was wearing this shirt. My wife realized it and pointed it out. I told her i wasn't worried because they don't know what a Hokie is anyway to which my 7 year old screamed 'I am.'
I bought a stick it in shirt recently to wear to coachella in a few weeks. I'm sure people will wonder what it's about, I hope it helps me get some girls ha. I'm also bringing my beautiful VT flag that will be the first thing I set up when I get to the campsite. Bringing my VT koozie, VT shorts, VT flip flops, VT hats, VT everything. If them Californians don't know about VT now, they will soon.
I wish right now there were twice as many people who sign the petition than comments on this thread. I hope everyone that's in favor of it at least shared it on twitter or facebook.
For all the TKP'ers attending the spring game I propose that we (those of us who own one anyway) ALL wear our SII shirts :D
any takers?
My thoughts on Signing Petitions:
Let's just make badhorse do this. Captain Hammer lives in New York, not Blacksburg.
I was referring to how Billy scoffs at the idea of signatures being helpful when Penny is explaining the petition. And how at the end he "would love to sign." Though after the fact I realized that Billy ranted about new leadership being needed and VT athletics now has new leadership.
Am I the only one who cringed at the wording on this petition?
The petition might be more successful if it were written a little differently. I just don't see Whit looking at this petition as it is currently worded and saying "Yes, we MUST bring this back."
I do admit the drum beat is awesome...the chant sounds great.
Unfortunately, Freedom of Speech doesn't protect a school financed marching band.
Lets just beat Ohio State...
Speaking of petitions we should make one to bring back turkey calls in the stadium. I sure do miss that as a kid in Lane Stadium. Nothing bears that sound and hearing the crowd roar. I know they do that electronic one but it's not the same.
Stick it in is the past and will not stand the test of time. We need a future with something original and unique to VT. Maybe someone can create something combining the Hokie Pokie and Stick it in. Something in between the family freindly Hokie Pokie and the baudy Stick it in. Any creative persons out there?
family friendly but with mild innuendo? got it...
Downvotes? That is weak. The "Hokie Pokie" can be a metaphor for stick it in, don't ya know? ;)
OT question: why is your SN PMS???
http://www.branding.unirel.vt.edu/brand-expression/colors-typography.html
Ahh, ok. Still a bit misleading though. And with that I'm at 2k gobbler legs. I'm Bender baby! I'm the greatest!
Don't worry about it...I got you with an upvote and a hip thrust. This isn't a good thread to disagree with anyone on.
I have 3 times more downvotes on this thread than UVA has at their spring game.
Almost half way there!!!
I'm sticking this in the front. It's been awhile. Bump.
Just wanted to STICK THIS BACK IN at the top since it's been awhile.
I just received a call from the ticket office asking for my thoughts about the gameday experience. I told them to bring back Stick-It-In. If anybody else receives a similar call, make sure you mention it.