'26 composite 4* WR Carnell Warren commits to the Hokies

I mean at that point Frank earned retirement at the end of the year, but that was the end for him. Sure he went undefeated in the ACC which had 3 teams with >.500 records and a 4th in FSU in the championship game. We beat obe 10 win teams, one 9 win teams, one 8 win team and one 7 win team. We had 3 of the best backs VT has had with 2 WRs that would end their careers at the top of VTs record book, and the 2nd best QB in the history of VT, and we couldn't get 1 yard against a 1AA team.

In 2011 we weren't much of a team, we had a ton of great players but we came the closest to being shut out since 1995 to a team that gave up 70 to WVU. We beat 5 teams with winning records Ark St which had 10 wins, but you best win was against an 8-5 UVA team. That doesn't sound like a great season. We had insane talent but we weren't as good of a team as the talent we had.

After than we didn't have the talent cause we had a couple of bad classes, it really was a sign that Beamers time was coming to an end.

I would figure you would want that. You talk about how we dont have the right mentallity in Blacksburg for winning championships. Losing to 1AA should be unacceptable if you want to win at the highest level. They would have had a losing record if we had won.

You said in another thread that we should be prepared to lose to JMU by 10 this year. We'll they are a way better football team now, there should be way less shame in losing now they are atleast in the same subdivision. They now have the same number of scholarships.

National Champion coaches dont have fluke games that late into their time at a school when they are at the top of their game.

People tend to forget that hat JMU game was the perfect alignment of factors against a VT win.

Most important factor was the Boise St game the week before. It was a physically hard-fought game late on a Monday Night that ended in an emotionally devastating loss. Most people don't understand how long it takes to physically recover from a football game and to prepare for the next one. It's a major reason why Thu Night NFL games tend to be kind of ass. A typical game week is game on Sat, rest Sun (and sometimes Mon), recovery, practice, and game prep Mon-Fri. That week they didn't even get back to Blacksburg until Tuesday morning so that day was a complete wash. That left just Wed-Fri for recovery and game prep for JMU. But the players were answering questions all week from reporters about the devastating Boise St loss. You could sense that they hadn't moved on mentally and the reporters weren't exactly helping by constantly asking about it.

Second factor is that Mikey Matthews (JMU's coach) was a good football coach. He literally said in a radio interview the following Mon was that he knew that VT's players would be beat up and still physically recovering from Boise St. He then said that they kept talking about that game in interviews so he knew that they wouldn't be mentally ready. So he made the smart decision to switch to an option-based offense, that they didn't use the week before, to take advantage of VT's mental and physical fatigue and to try to milk the clock to limit VT's offenses opportunities. VT had no way of expecting that switch so the defense, already slowed down due to fatigue, were completely caught off guard. By the time they could adjust, it was too late.

Then add in the rain. A wet field slows down a defense. So a VT defense already slowed down by fatigue and slowed down even more by trying to think and react to a completely unexpected option-based offense now had to contend with that, too. You could see how the players just looked sluggish, like even when they wanted to move, their bodies were just having a really hard time functioning.

VT's offense wasn't exactly a juggernaut to begin with. The whole game plan was to try to out muscle the opponent at the point of attack and run the ball down their throats, because "it's just JMU", surely we can push them around. It's pretty hard to do that when you're exhausted and the other guy is fresh, even if you're the superior athlete. Add in the limited number of possessions due to JMU milking the clock and its a recipe for disaster. I firmly believe that Darren Evans doesn't fumble the ball on that last drive and VT scores if the Boise St game was on the previous Sat.

It was literally the perfect storm. I have nothing but respect for the leadership on that team that had the closed-door, player's-only meeting that is credited with helping the team move on and to just roll through the rest of the conference.

it was very clear Pry cant coach, he blew the last drive on shitty clock management. We could have had 2-3 more shots at the endzone if he could coach.