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Let's Ho Gokies!
6'5" and 200lbs as a sophomore. Not too bad, not too bad.
Only have to keep him in the boat for 18 months.
And this kid has some wheels to boot. If he has a decent Jr. campaign, the big dogs will come a callin'.
Has wheels.
Other offers were Penn State and Syracuse.
This does not compute.
I know right?? But watch the film. And dude posts an 11 flat 100m.
Wow! Hopefully this catalyzes the '26 class
Sticking with staff's desire to get a QB in the boat early to help push confidence with other croots in the class
This is good, right?
Interesting Hudl film.
Given his size, thought he would profile more as a pocket-passer but he clearly has some mobility and they aren't afraid to run zone-read with him.
Throwing mechanics are pretty raw..has a baseball-style release but assuming that can be ironed out, he could be a huge pickup for VT.
A Penn State target/offer from Pennsylvania; taking croots from Franklins backyard?
I like this get.
My how the turn tables...
Yeah, it's about damn time
You just had to tempt fate, didn't you
Chin music.
We can't have nice things...
Everything keeps coming up Hokies these days.
I will choose to be excited about this news.
All name team?
looks like calzones will be served during the games at the 07Hokie household
He better get some NIL DP Dough
I had DP Dough the other week. Nobody at the bar had ever heard of it before.
Hmmm, did you tell them to look it up in the urban dictionary?
/s
Invitation accepted 😀
The Low Fail Falzone Endzone
Rivals just gave him a 5.8 rating, 4*
Is a 5.8 good? I have no clue how rivals works
Yes. It's the low-end of 4-star, so if he signs, he would be the best HS QB recruit in the Pry era according to Rivals rankings.
I looked to see where that would rank him nationally foe dual-threat QBs. With the caveat that much of the 2026 class is not yet rated, He would be somewhere between top 4 and 7 in nation, but only about a dozen dual-threat QBs are ranked at this early stage.
If anything, if Belfort is still here and Falzone signs, this would be the first time we've had 2 x 4* QBs, signed straight out of high school, on the roster since Tyrod and LT3
I don't (and am not) rooting against a kid, but if Belfort ever takes a meaningful snap in Blacksburg I'll eat all my hats. Just don't think he's athletic enough to overcome his stature
Good caveat with "meaningful"
I have a sneaking suspicion that you might not have any hats, and that this isn't the confident boast that it sounds like.
Hendon and Quincy?
According to Rivals, Hendon was a 3* QB
he was a 4-star (91) by 247
3-star (78) by ESPN
3-star (5.7) by Rivals
and a 4* by composite
This particular subthread was specific to Rivals in house ratings, not composites or other sites.
i think it started that way but when you just say "If anything, if Belfort is still here and Falzone signs, this would be the first time we've had 2 x 4* QBs, signed straight out of high school, on the roster since Tyrod and LT3" people aren't going to assume you meant by Rivals
I see that I should have clarified that when I posted.
This is why I didn't reply, I'm pedantic, very much so, so much that I thought I'd let everyone know tyrod was 5* not 4*, but eh I let it go because it started of as rivals, because belfort is only 4* for rivals so I assumed it was only rivals
He is now a 4* on 247 and #216 in their top247
In the Pry era, he would be the 4th highest recruit out of HS. If Messiah Delhomme commits and signs to the good guys, he would knock him down to 5th. Of course, also have to keep Mathews and Outten in the boat. And there are also several potential top 247 targets in 2026 as well, which could knock him down a few pegs if they commit and sign.
But, definitely the best QB recruit out of HS after missing out on Malik Washington this year.
As soon as I saw the thread re-activated, my immediate thought was the decommitted. Sigh.
But, hopefully he finds a place where he will be a good fit.
Same. During downtimes I dread when I see old recruitment threads, knowing what's inside. ... welp, to be expected I guess...
Surprise level: Zero.
1st thought: kid has a great frame to build from but mechanically needs quite a bit of work
2nd thought: kids shouldn't be "committing" as high school Sophomores (or younger).
I mean if I was a highly sought after QB recruit, watching us routinely put our QBs in a tough spot and literally running them into major injuries after they were already showing signs of breing hurt in games, I would decommit, too.
We have to get an OC who has experience developing QBs in here ASAP.
I don't think we have had one of those this century.
If Pop starts, he would be the first QB who was not a transfer QB since Hendon Hooker 5 years ago.
Agree..why this isn't surprising at all.
Also, I'm sure Pry's "good friend" James Franklin has been in this kid's ear non-stop.
New threadddduuhhhhhhhh
Are you seriously telling me we only have 2 years to try to fill this roster spot?
Thanks a lot for the short notice, Falzone!
As soon as I saw his recruit ratings kept going up I knew there was zero chance we'd keep him locked in
Che cavolo!
Heading to Blacksburg to be a battering ram into the line is frowned upon by talented qbs
Pop wasn't a battering ram cause he actually throws a nice ball
He reviewed our film from last week
Oline problem.
He's going to follow Mack Brown at
UNCumm...somewhere else.He's going to follow Mack Brown
at UNC umm...somewhere elsehome.FIFY
Going to Penn State
Gee, would've never in a million years expected that.../s
Fuck a penn state
With paul finebaum's stupid looking head...
good riddance tbh
100% Committed
800% or it doesn't count.
F that guy/s. I hope he does what he does, I just wish it would have been in O and M
He just flipped from Penn St to Auburn
Jumping around a lot already. Even if he did come here, if he preformed well $100 says he leaves at the first chance for higher money.
Evidently the chatter is that PSU was gonna play him at TE after he flopped at QB at a camp in State College and Auburn is gonna let him play QB
As a QB, he looked raw. He did not have a natural throwing motion in the film I saw--threw it like a baseball. Great measurables and athletic potential but there is much more to playing QB--see Anthony Richardson.
The pitfalls of "rating" HS Fr. and So. We annoint them when they are still growing which probably stunts their development more than anything else.
He will play for 5 schools in 5 years.
Sadly depending on his measurables he might have had a better and longer career as a TE than a QB. Less pressure.
Depending on how it breaks at NFL level though, he could stand to make more as a journeyman backup QB than as a starting TE
I was thinking at the NFL level. Logan Thomas made a lot of green as a TE. Excellent College QB's ride the bench in the NFL behind exceptional talent. Good doesn't make for the most part.
Beyond QBs that you and I could scout- Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, Elway. The NFL is horrid-absolutely horrid at scouting QBs. You have to try to be worse. Maybe this kid not being an "NFL" QB means he will be the next Joe Montana- the NFL gets way more wrong than right on QB scouting.
Thinking back over some of the QB's drafted in the last 10 years you have a valid point. I guess they forget some diamonds in the rough are still coal at heart.
I originally read this as you calling LT3 an excellent college QB, and I was gonna ask if you spent 2012 & 13 in a coma after 2011.
2012 and 2013 were not fun football seasons, but for all of Logan's faults, I can't help but wonder if those offenses would've had even less success without him. Those teams had Swiss cheese offensive lines and not much skill talent to speak of.
Logan was not the problem, the not recruiting enough wide recievers was the problem. Coles was injured, Davis didn't play too his talent, the rest weren't great except for Fuller who was a transfer. The RB room took a hit but nothing like the recievers.
Including if we had a better QB, Thomas would have been a beast of a receiving TE.
Tajh Boyd choosing Clemson over VT changed the trajectory of two different programs.
Him or like 7 other VA qbs Bryn Renner (a legacy), EJ Manuel, Mike Glennon, Phil Sims (who am I kidding VT would have failed him like all the other schoosl)
Word was we didn't have a good program for developing QBs. but Tyrod stayed in the league longer than all the VA QBs that went out of state
Barely beating Russell Wilson, who has other issues on why he's not in the league.
And, unfortunately, Tyrod is the last VT quarterback that has shown any development during his time at VT. Staff has 2 more chances to do that with Drones and Pop. I want to see someone in the QB room actually get better year-over-year for a change.
Logan developed but the rest of the team went south so it was difficult to see. Having Coales, Boykin, and Wilson made his SO. year much easier.
A few years ago I went back and watched every interception from his senior year with the exception of I believe wofford (what ever 1-aa we played) because I couldn't find the tape. He threw one interception that he shouldn't have thrown. He had one that was a 50/50 ball that maybe was more like 60/40 the opponent and the other like 11 were the reciever ran the wrong route or it hit them in their hands and it bounced out. He basically had 2-3 actual bad throws instead of the 14 or so it actually was.
I blame Drew Harris for not enrolling.
It depends if he's replaced with Motley or someone better. Those seasons are definitely not solely his responsibility - poor OL, RB room, weak WRs. But his inability to throw a screen pass anywhere but at the feet of his receiver and inconsistency in the overall passing game didn't help.
Motley was around with Jerod Evans. I think you might mean Leal if I remember right? And we saw what could happen with Leal after Logan got taken out of the UCLA game
Leal and Motley. Motley was there in 12 & 13, but you're right I meant Leal.
Come on man, you can't blame LT3 for 2012 or 2013. Our best receivers in 2012 were Demitri Knowles (who could run really fast, but often forgot there was a ball to look for) and a TE (Kalvin Kline?). Pretty sure in 2013, we only had that same TE and an 80-year old Dyrell Roberts who came out of the nursing home to fill out our two deep.
Then don't even get started about our RB room which had like frosh JC Coleman, Oglesby, and one-legged Martin Scales as our options.
Wild choice imo, PSU is the better long term investment. Freeze is probably gone at Auburn unless they have a miracle year this year.
I can't imagine playing for Hugh freeze period. He's like a real life amalgamation of everything I hate.
i dont think "long term investments" mean much in college athletics. it's the epitome of securing the bag now because you aren't guaranteed it later -- think we'll see relatively few athletes betting on themselves
First, with the success PSU just had with Tyler Warren (a converted QB) you would think kid might see the forest for the trees.
Number two, it seems like this is a Recruiting tactic that has become a standard for Auburn--"c'mon down, we'll let anybody give QB a shot"
Gokies!
Could we put parenthesis around the update portion of the post? It's pretty confusing when you read this title.
Something like this:
(Update:Decommitted) Original title
done and welcome back (but also tkp harder next time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Hah, been lurking hardcore but excited for the season and football coverage to get here!
I'll always skew 1 or 2 games higher than is realistic. O&M glasses and all that. The only team I have time to watch these days so hoping to see at least a competitive showing each game.
We give Pry a lot of crap for the two decommits but Louisville has had six decommit in June and 9 overall for Class of 26.
We didn't have 6 commits to decommit ...
If they decommit were they ever really commits?
I've accepted that these kids can't keep their word. Commitment used to be measured in years, now its measured in hours.
Eh hard to blame them for letting go of a job offer that is months away (and no signed contract), when a new offer with a sexier company or a higher salary comes along.
The whole sport (college landscape as a whole) is a mess with all the amenities expected by professional players with NONE of the collective bargaining rules in place to prevent flippant free agency from happening.
They should let players just sign up without the signing day. Once they sign, a school they want to transfer to needs to pay a compensation amount to unlock them from their contract. Make a decision and move forward.
Long term the product is going to suffer from all this do what I want whenever I want stuff.
There is a court case with Wisconsin suing Miami that touches on this and tampering.
The judge will rule in favor of players moving unlimited times/places with no rules.
In that case, the player had signed an NIL Contract with Wiscy and then bailed. They going after him for breach of contract I believe and Miami for tampering.
So our players for the last 20 plus years should argue they only signed with VT in order to play against Wisconsin, and sue Wisconsin since they didn't get a chance to play them due to the perpetually postponed home and home series with them... /s
You can't have any laws or rules that restrict maximum money for players in any fashion. If you make them sign something, that limits their ability to get 2 million more from Ohio State. It will never fly.
As long as they are not employees.
This is the answer that has been staring the NCAA in the face for decades. Just make them employees.
There are thousands of students that are also employees of a university - I worked for VT when I was a waiter at Donaldson Brown when it was a hotel.
Once they are employees you can indeed sign a contract and have enforceable penalties for leaving early.
The money aspect won't kill the sport- employees or not- but the unlimited free agency/transfer rules will. THAT needs governance more than anything.
Because those penalties have stopped coaches from leaving ...
Why would any recruit sign a contract with penalties? It's going to be 4 year scholarships all over again where no one used them.