[Mark Umansky]
Who: Virginia Tech Hokies (3-6, 2-3 ACC) at Florida State Seminoles (4-5, 1-5 ACC)
When: Saturday, November 15, 2025 at 7:30 PM ET
Where: Tallahassee, FL | Doak Campbell Stadium (79,560)
Watch/Listen: ACCN | Virginia Tech Sports Network
Spread: VT opened +12.5, now +14.0
Weather: 59°F Clear
Series: The Seminoles hold a 24-13-1 advantage in the series.
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Let's Go...
HOKIES
HOKIES!!!
Edit: guess I'll start drinking and learn how to use the "reply" button 🤷
It's early. I'm going back to bed.
I need to see James Franklin wearing a VT at Doak tonight.
Are C Wiggins and K Adams ever going to play?
Adams was supposedly close at beginning of October. Wiggins at that time was not close. Since then, with head coach firing, etc decision may have been made that it doesn't make sense to risk re-injuring it for a lost season. Have not seen any other updates on them on setbacks etc.
Not sure if I missed any chatter on TKP but I saw Clark Ruhland on Twitter referencing the uniform reveal intentionally not showing the side of the helmet. I wonder if we're breaking out a new/special helmet
I assume they say James Franklin on the side as our coaching reveal. /s
Yes, that would be the coolest coach reveal ever.
But no way that wouldn't have leaked out.
Is anyone going to say what we're all thinking?
I'll do it. That burger discussion earlier was completely out of line. All burgers are beautiful in their own right
Edit: if you happen to be in Norfolk, find your way to 80/20 burger bar, get a deviled egg appetizer and order one of their burgers (I recommend the PB&J).
Y'all need to come to Chicago and get Red Hot Ranch. I just had a day old burger and it was delicious.
I haven't been back in Chicago in like a decade. Good food everywhere I went while I was there.
Only place I've ever outspent my per diem though, including Paris and New York.
save your pennies for probably the best burgers I've had, and it's in northern va
Slightly off the beaten path but Spelunkers in Front Royal also makes a great one, though it's been over a decade since I've been there
Eww, i don't trust anything in Front Royal. But next time you're in Front Royal, try the sushi and crab sandwiches at the Liberty gas station up from the Knotty Pine 🤮
well how could I say no to that
I went to the coolest dive-iest bar in Front Royal with townies I had just met. So much fun
I worked in Front Royal for 16 years. Cool and fun are definitely not two words i would use to describe anything
And yes, Melting Pot pizza is the worst pizza i've ever had, by far
It was called Knotty Pine and it was one of the weirdest places I've ever been but in the best way
Yeah, the Knotty Pine is the big locals hangout spot, especially for breakfast. There's definitely better places to eat there but there's also worse. See several posts above, as i was telling Beard of DeChristopher, there's a Liberty gas station right before the Knotty Pine that sells an assortment of exotic foods like sushi. I'm sure it's top notch.
I was there probably from 10ish to close
I agree, Spelunkers has good burgers.
Best burgers in Nova are at Burger Shack in Chantilly
Ppfffftttt! Well. Played.
you're a lucky soul to have never eaten an unbeautiful burger. I, however, cannot say the same.
Well ok then
Annihilate Free Shoes tonight and then do the same to the overrated cocksuckers in the southern part of Florida next week. Fuck those douchebags....both of them. THEN CAKE WALK OVER LOLUVA!
LETS GO HOKIES!
💯
I got a perfect buzz going right now. LETS FUCKING GO!
This x 100
Who's rocking what jersey numbers Tonight? I'm reppin #4 Eddie Royal/David Wilson
Drink per drop?
Hawkins!
That looked like a high school pass.
Geez.
Not even a good throw.
Why do we even bother throwing the ball when we run it so well?
He probably catches that and scores if he doesn't slip.
It was thrown inside, Greene was outside. It was underthrown.
Why the hell does Ayden Greene fall down on routes so much??? If it's an equipment issue at this point, then goddamn, fix that shit.
It's a consistent issue, but in his defense tonight, FSU has also had a few receivers lose their footing already too. I wonder if the field isn't in good condition or wet or something
I didn't realize we were playing in Pittsburgh
To be fair, have seen four guys fall on their face along that sideline.
Fuckin brilliant playcall. Run for 30+ to follow it with a Drones beach ball.
Not to mention no one was within 15 yards of Heath.
That had INT written all over it
This coaching staff is just so so so so so painful.... you literally can run anytime you want and they just keep calling passing plays... I mean no wonder everybody is getting fired. Good Lord.
Ugh. Cmon
How many 3rd down conversions on rtp?
And now the stupid penalty stuff... seriously, we diagram each week the things you can do to lose.
Why can't we just wear the standard classic maroon helmets? For once? Too much white.
they find a new way to get the helmets wrong nearly every week. If only that were the biggest of our problems
Is the field wet?
Lots of slipping out there.
Wide Right motherfucker!
I'm gonna say it.
We should attempt no more than 8 passes tonight - 2 per quarter(ish). We freaking dominate on the ground with 3 capable runners. Run the freaking football!!!
dodged a bullet there.
let's do this right this time.
Just heard from my sauce that if VT passes on first down to start their second drive James Franklin will accept the job officially
Should have been targeting on 0.
thinking the same thing
Stewart running really well
We were going to head over and go to this game but kids activities got to be too much this weekend. Alot of FSU fans want us to win so they can fire the coach.
Glad we could lose some yards on the edge of fg range
And the 4 yard loss was the difference
Doomed call from the start. 3rd and 2 - let Stewart run it up the gut twice. Don't get cute
👏We 👏are 👏not👏a👏passing 👏team 👏
3rd and 4 and we throw behind the line of scrimmage.
Monty's offense and playcalling is highly suspect. We know we have the best chance at success running the ball. But we are hellbent on being pass happy.
Lmao man this 1st quarter sure explains each teams' records. Disappointing
That was just a long handoff. Really a running play. FSU just blew it up.
Got to drive that ball. That thing floated forever. Not sure how heavy the air is right now either.
This field is dogshit
Yup
The field must be in horrible shape. Everyone is slipping.
I just hope whoever the next coach is hires a competent offensive coaching staff.
Did they stop paying for field maintenance to save up for a buyout?
I was trying to come up with the snarky way to say this. Well done.
RUN
THE
DAMN
FOOTBALL
Losing 4 yards on a floating swing pass on the edge of FG range is an absolutely mind baffling call (I know Monty didn't actually call for us to lose 4 yards). Sheesh. This should be easy.
This game has such a sickos vibe
If castellanos was any good VT would be down 14 right now.
So...are the bear and eagle married and the fish their kid? Or are the fish and eagle married and the bear is their kid? Or is this some kid of weird Appalachian love triangle?
A weird Appalachian love triangle usually involves a beaver.
...and a shovel...and a tractor.
Feels like some northern Wisconsin erotica
Similar. That involves a badger and an ice auger
FSU with novel pass play concept. Get the receiver past the 1st down marker on his route.
No way that stands as TD
There we go
I don't think that was a catch
Not a TD
Yeah there was no way that was a f****** catch it popped right out of his hands before he went out of bounds
overturned... must not be acc refs
Duce Robinson....king of the Bobble
We should be down 14. Just get the offense doing something and we have a chance.
Monty is like, "I think we should drop back and sling it some more."
That is, unfortunately, sort of his thing.
We are 3/4 of the way through the season. Is it too much to ask to have something semblance of a passing game?
Better call on 3rd and short there.
We did a pass effectively!
what a dive by Drones
If what you mean is "good play calling that didn't put Drones in a position to take multiple bad sacks", the I completely agree
no what I mean is he kept his knee off the turf before going into the endzone as he was falling. It seems to be extremely hard to get good footing on the field tonight.
The turf does look bad. It's going to have an impact on the final score tonight.
I think you read drive. I think he meant what he said, dive. Literal dive into the end zone.
Indeed. Leg
TD for the good guys!!!!
Whoever the next guy is I hope Overton is part of his plan.
Yay points!
Overton in space seems like a good thing.
Two good blocks by the receivers to spring Overton
The Overton window is shifty
Anyone else missing the Spurtle commercials?
That fake Christmas tree commercial is a good substitute.
My wife and I were vaguely interested thinking it might be good for our toddler's playroom/our sunroom, until we saw it was $200 and I noped the fuck outta that. I was fully expecting like $75 at the most
We laughed at the price also.
Overton over balled to get inside the 5.
God our secondary sucks
Was he trying to tackle him or tie his shoelaces together?
Looked more like trying to mount him
See the Appalachian love triangle above 👆
How did he not tackle that guy?
Not watching, but I've asked this so many times this year. Was it better or worse than that one Sellers run in the USCe game where he should've been sacked like 4 different times?
Worse. He had his arms wrapped around his legs and the WR just ran out of the tackle.
It looked like my toddler wrapping up someone at their legs and just bring run through
Jeez that's awful
That was embarrassing
what was that tackle attempt?
Reddish getting destroyed. Shoutout DC. He knew 😂
What the hell is wrong with this field? Our guy just feel down on the KR. He just took one step forward and fell down.
That may have been the worst tackle attempt in the history of football
Overloaded left side, ball on the left hash, let's call a pitch to the left ... smh
I think more men who are selling backup batteries need handlebar mustaches
The ohhhh ohhhh ohhhho with the limp arm flail is the stupidest thing in college football. Period.
Come at me bro
Overton has pop to him. Looks promising.
Yes. Lotta pop.
Close to interference.
Replay shows it was PI.
That did not look like a hold.
Why no TO there? There is barely any time left.
Monty is just as bad as clock/timeout management as Pry.
What's the time management strategy here?
Brilliant clock management. Is Mike London on the sideline?
Bonkers clock management here
Lol and didn't we supposedly work a ton on "situational football" in the offseason? Horrific 2 minute drill/clock management.
I get he missed earlier, but is the field that bad that we don't try a field goal there?
If they aren't confident he can plant, they might be worried about a bad slip kicking that far
They did say the air is heavy with the humidity. Could have been a factor
And why not give Love the chance again?
Talk to me like I'm a 3-year-old why are we not attempting a field goal there?
MattBoard might be right. Worried Love slipping and getting hurt on a low probability FG attempt.
My guess is field conditions.
I guess, but cmon....you need to pull out all the stops on The road. Time runs out one way or the other. Take the higher percentage and the half ends anyway.
He was short on a 54 yard attempt earlier in the game. Field is wet and slippery. Air is heavy and humid.
Making a 58 is highly unlikely and very much likely to end up being short enough to be catchable \ returnable by FSU
Your team: poo
Your coaching: poo
Your conference: poo
(I may have only focused on the "talk to me like I'm a 3 year old part.)
i guess bringing the sticks out to measure is no longer a thing?
Nobody wants to prolong this game
fair point
Not a catchable pass.
This
How is that PI when the ball is clearly unwatchable? But two plays earlier theTE was blocking 15 yards downfield when the the was thrown away?
Ball: uncatchable.
Defense: unwatchable.
Refs obviously want Franklin to be the next VT coach. Hoping to help keep Norvell in Tallahassee
I swear Robinson could make me look like a QB1. His catch radius is amazing.
Just don't throw to him in the end zone!
Oh look another dipshit penalty
Just seeing the replay. It wasn't a penalty. TW went over but then was clearly back. They threw the flag before the snap and didn't stop the play.
Yeah I think you might be right. I'd like to see a shot down the line.
Unfortunately because it was the guy on the end they probably left it because unimpeded to the ball
Unimpeded blows the play dead.
this may be the second worst disciplined team (behind Louisville)
FSU got away with throwing one of our defenders over the pile after the play there.
Yup.
Two third down conversions on penalties.
"penalties"
Do not understand how the ACC can be so afraid of us that they need to put their thumb on the scale.
Thank you Thomas Williams. FSU couldn't have gotten that TD without ya.
How many different kinds of portable air compressors is the ACCN going to try and sell us????
I'm team PocketAir Pro
Why am I not seeing the ads you are?
Verizon Fios over here watching on the cable box. Online streams are probably getting something different.
Monkey magnets, collapsible Xmas trees, air compressors . Yep, ACC Network is a serious platform.
Averaging 11.5 yds/ carry is what the announcer claims.
I know they are beating us, but it's apparent Norvell has lost his swagger. Last time we were here he went for 2 on one of the first touchdowns in the first quarter. Dick move. Now he has to have zebra help to score on us.
3rd and 7 is not challenging enough. Give me 3rd and 12!
Well that was not good.
Drones does not tuck the ball, he waves it around and does not change hands to keep the ball away from the tackler.
He's just simply going through the motions out there.
stupid mental mistakes. Does Drones have no ability to recognize the blitz and call an audible???
Well, apparently not.
I refuse to believe Drones is our best option at QB
I've been saying this since the 1st quarter against ODU, yet here we are.
^^This^^
That alone is good reason to fire Brent Pry - not having a D1 QB on the roster is criminal.
Why do you run into the teeth of a 15 man blitz?
This team could be winning this game and most of the games we have played this year, but we have a total butt passing offense and continually shoot ourselves in the foot.
I wonder what the lowest scoring game with no punts is?
WIth or without Drones at QB?
I'm done. I know Halloween was a couple weeks ago, but you all enjoy the terrifying performance we're putting on the field tonight
Welp that's probably it. Another potentially competitive game pissed away with mistakes and dubious playcalling.
I long for the day when our team doesn't just give up after some bit of adversity. (We got a few small glimpses of it this season, but not much)
Well, look on the bright side. If we manage to hire competent coaches it won't take much to get us to 8+ wins next year
Why o why do we not switch it up at QB?
Our coaches have Zero clue.
Are we "tanking for Franklin"??
Seems like we really want Mike Norvell to hang on for at least one more year.
Defense is gassed. This is over.
Dline is gassed. Fixed that for you. The lbs and safeties have been shit all game
Embarrassing lack of talent. Pissing the game away with stupid mistakes and penalties. But untalented players make bad plays 🤷
Still a little fight in the defense.
Then they'll have to find some other bullshit penalty to call on us.
BASS NEEDS TO SIT
He was sexually assaulted by the O lineman so hard to get mad about that flag.
We are not capable of doing anything decent on D without offsetting it with a bone headed penalty
Good hit at LOS.
I'd be more upset if we weren't getting Franklin.
Be healthy and beat UVA and blow this team up.
At this point, I'm only watching to see Franklin officially announced during the 4th quarter.
Only watching to wait for Wrestling to announce who they wrestle tomorrow in the National Duals Wrestle Backs
Which will happen first...
Drones with more than 150 yds passing in a game?
OR
OL with less than 3 false starts in a game?
Good drive.
I think it's the frustrating part. They have the talent to accomplish a lot, but make so many boneheaded mistakes over and over again
Like allowing a long kick return? Yep. It is definitely frustrating.
And Stu strikes again...on cue as always
Do we not have a single defensive back that can cover Deuce Robinson?
Injury tent the only one that can cover him.
D is done.
Almost like repeatedly extending drives with dumb penalties on 3rd and 4th down will come back to bite you...particularly when you aren't exactly stout to start.
Just frustrating to watch over and over
SMH, what would our record be this year without defensive drive-extending penalties?
Note to announcer. 31-14 = 17. Not 16 as you said.
Greene spinning in circles looking for the ball.
Then wormbruner on 3rd down.
Then needless happy feet on 4th.
Passing game is just hopeless-- we would literally be better off running Triple option on every play
Greene should have been walking into end zone there but went deer in headlights again
Maybe move the pocket instead of making Drones fight a rush that's been getting pressure literally the entire game.
*all season
I guess this is a good time to go get my guitar/gear packed up for tomorrow.
Better hope whoever the new coach is (Franklin??) brings along a QB
Drew Allar to VT confirmed!
Might be that Falzone kid back to VT. He had committed to Auburn after Penn State fired Franklin. Freeze fired, full circle.
That would be a nice turn of events.
He's out of eligibility and the NCAA doesn't grant us waivers.
Does the ACC cameraman realize he was zoomed in on a "Fuck around and find out " tshirt?
I think he was focused on the girl next to her that almost gave us all a show
Dear FSU girl in the stands...when your team is 4-5 and 1-5 in a bad ACC, wearing a "Fuck around and find out" shirt really only displays your stupidity as more teams have, in fact, not found out mathematically.
Maybe save that shirt for the next time you guys actually have a good year...10 years from now.
I'm trying to find that clip of the shirt.
People were wearing them at our last home game... a couple dudes selling them outside Lane and people were buying them. Such a bad look. I guess I would be considered old for wanting that crap out of here.
No, overuse diminishes the impact.
I believe the original was "Don't tread on me."
Which is still the better saying.
So you're telling her there's a chance (in ten years)...
What a fitting way to close out this Sh*tshow
I will remember Drones much the same way as Grant Noel.
No hard feelings, he played hard but ultimately just wasn't very good.
There will be no remorse seeing someone else behind center asap.
We never put him in a place to succeed. He either needed much better protection, or game plans tailored to his skill set and we did neither.
He can't throw the football accurately, period.
Its the most basic skill needed to be successful and he doesn't have it.
He wouldn't have it behind the 1995 Cowboys OL either.
Drones is what all the pundits claim Jalen Hurts to be
I don't think he'd ever be an award winning QB. But we took a guy with a some skills, used none of them and then hoped he'd gain some new ones out of no where.
Wouldn't argue that Montgomery's offense was a good fit or that he ever had an even average OL but Drones:
-isn't accurate enough to make intermediate/crossing routes work
-doesn't read the field/covearge well
-has repeatedly shown poor reads in the read-option running game
-has poor footwork that degenerates to the second he feels pressure
I mean...what kind of scheme can you possibly devise to overcome all that?
He has been good running the ball and using the option with the occasional pass over the top. We saw it tonight. Then for some reason we get pass happy and get surprised when it all falls apart.
I disagree that he is good running the ball. I think he is lucky he doesn't get stripped more often in the way he did tonight. His ball protection is horrible.
What was that slip of drones on third down. He should have had the first easy. But oh well.
I don't think he slipped. He's had a habit of diving early all year.
Nah that was definitely the field getting him. That sideline all night had a ton of falls. You could tell by his body language as he got up that he was pissed and knew where he needed to get.
The good news is, we shouldn't have to worry about FSU coming open. Not that we had to, they can't afford to fire Norvell
Not that any of us thought this would happen any way, but that loss mathematically took us out of any kind of post-season. I guess the bright side is that we get to start the off-season earlier than any of the teams we aspire to be competitive with.
The old goal of wanting a bowl game so that your guys can practice more seems a lot less important when you field a new team every year.
I think now it is more a chance for some of your non-opt-outs to get some game/film time for next season (for the current team or the next)