247's scouting report in the posted link describes a guy who would fit well in Montgomery's Veer & Shoot / Art Briles scheme:
Big-framed pro-style quarterback with a corresponding big arm that shows in downfield vertical passing game juice and short-to-intermediate velocity. Excellent timing and touch passer who knows how to throw to spots to allow only his receivers to make plays on the ball. Smooth, repeatable release fosters consistent spiral and RPMs. Live evaluations at multiple Spring 2025 events passed with flying colors, including an Elite 11 Austin performance that revealed the ability to consistently rip it to multiple levels into a stiff wind. Appears to play with encouraging pocket awareness and subtle evasiveness to extend plays inside and out of the pocket as necessary. Capable of drilling intermediate throws on the move, including across his body to the field. Good combine tester who also plays basketball. Not a high-volume run threat at the next level, but functionally athletic enough to present a scramble threat and more importantly extend plays for big-time off-schedule throws. Occasionally throws a bit flat-footed at times. Production context is not crystal clear due to lack of concrete data at this point, but the tape and live exposures have been strong. Projects to the P4 level with significant long-term potential that suggests multi-year impact starter upside.
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I'm a little confused how he's a good fit. Those schemes were best with an accurate quick and elusive QB that can throw on the run. I just don't see a big pocket passer as a fit for that scheme.
I really question what P Mont's philosophy is in the new era. He hasn't had a good offense in a decade. He's made some QB's look really bad at his post Baylor stops (it's possible they actually were bad, but over so many different QB's it looks like it could be a pattern).
His bad offenses usually featured a pocket passer type QB, which was odd to me. They telegraphed every play, were easy to defend and seemed to follow the strategy: Get stopped for a short gain on 1st and 2nd down then chuck it on 3rd. Would be absolutely pissed if that's what he brings here
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Baylor lit everyone up with guys who had strong, accurate arms and weren't very elusive like Bryce Petty. RGIII was the exception and he still had a huge arm and could connect on a bunch of downfield shots. Montgomery's Tulsa team scored 52 on VT in Beamer's last game using a similar strategy with Dane Evans at QB.
Petty ran for a total of 338 yards in college with on an average of 1.8 ypc (sacks included because CFB stats are dumb). Dane Evans was even less with 244 yards and 0.3 ypc.
I don't know if he's still running that scheme, but this kid seems to match those sort of QBs.
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I would be A-ok with a QB that only ran for 350 yds and threw for 4,000. I think the modern QB needs to be able to be a threat with his legs and make a defense pay for dime looks and deep zones through designed QB runs, but don't have to be LT3, J Evans, and Drones style battering rams. Give me Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray types.
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Offer list not stellar, but it looks like we were competing with GT and Colorado for this guy primarily, and both of those teams have had/are having recent success at QB.
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Need to have a dramatically improved offensive line for a QB like this to work. For so long the QB has had to scramble so much and/or be a rusher. No pro-style QB could work at VT because we could never protect them long enough to be successful. Hopefully the line will make these kind of strides, because I'd love to see us have a QB who actually is a QB and not having to make the plays with their legs.
Don't get me wrong, happy to have a QB that can make plays running and scrambling. Vick, Tyrod, etc. I just don't want that to have to be the primary or only way to make the offense go.
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I'm convinced that Blacksburg is where offense comes to die. I'll never expect our offense to go. Fuente is probably the most astute offensive football coach we've had and he couldn't make it work without substantial talents. I'm not expecting this new set of coaches to do any better than what we've seen over the last 30 years. Our offense will probably score 28 ppg and fall somewhere in the lower middle third of offenses in the ACC and we'll lose 6+ games because we just can't score enough. Because that's what our offensive identity has been for my entire lifetime regardless of the coach.
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Fuente is probably the most astute offensive football coach
Yes, he was "considered" an offense minded coach. What he showed us all is that it was his way or the highway (read: Bench!). If you tried to think through your reads and not do the primary play plan - he shut you down. This was all exposed after he left.
Sorry, I am not buying this line based on the product we all saw from him here.
I hope Montgomery's plan will work (but that jury is still out). I don't have enough data there to disagree that he has had success in the past and that this kind of QB could work with his plans. I feel our OL will be improved and that the youth that came with Moore will be a base to build on through next year at least.
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my point is two-fold. 1. Fuente wasn't a great coach in Blacksburg - partly because we haven't had a good offensive coach in Blacksburg, like, ever. So him being the "best" we've had doesn't mean he's necessarily good. Just better than what we've had otherwise.
2. Maybe he was actually a good coach, but Blacksburg is just cursed and it doesn't matter how good a coach is, they're not going to be able to get our offense to play better than a mid-major. Basically, I don't think it's the coach. I think it's VT. VT just isn't meant to have a good offense and I don't care if you put the best offensive mind in the world on our sidelines, we're just not gonna be good at offense. I'm going to harbor this silly belief until someone comes along and proves me wrong. I will never EXPECT a coach to actually put a good offense on the field in Blacksburg. Many have tried. Many have failed.
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Can confirm that as of now his Twitter profile still also says Hokies FB Commit, though I guess Minnesota is making a push for him and got him to visit
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Most recruits who didn't officially decommit were in "wait-and-see" mode, much like the top players on the roster who didn't enter the special 30 day coach-fired-window.
Franklin instant impact has me thinking that most of the guys he wants to keep from the recruiting class and roster will be here next season.
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The more the merrier. Iron sharpens iron, the more good recruits we get in house the better competition will be and the better out team will end up. That is what we had in our best years under Beamer and what we should look to expect under Franklin
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I think that's just taking the news that Leavitt probably isn't going back to ASU and saying he should come here. Rumbling of him going literally anywhere (except Michigan) is probably legit.
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That started with a troll account on X using 274Sports as a handle posting an image of Leavitt saying we gave him $8M and then a bunch of people believed it and reposted or made new images like it
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Yeah, kinda figured it was bogus. A coworker was sending me snips from some website/message board about it. Wherever he got them from it wasn't 247/TSL or any site i've seen before.
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This was one that started it...couldn't access Twitter watching my kids basketball practice at the Elementary school
UPDATE: Just moments after entering the portal, Sam Leavitt inked an $8 million deal with Virginia Tech to play for James Franklin, per multiple reports.Franklin said, "Sam was the first call we made. He's the quarterback we wanted and the quarterback we believe in." pic.twitter.com/ZTNHTPoPIW— 274 Sport (@274sport) November 18, 2025
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Bergeron's senior year game film looks better than average for a high school QB. He can throw on a good run with accuracy and touch. He throws the ball to where the receiver can make the play, a receivers QB. Some things we have not seen from a QB in a while. Of course this is from film on selected plays. I hope he joins us in 2026.
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Yes, excuse the hyperbole but like Tom Brady, Bergerson looks like he's on the same page with his receivers. Coaching? Innate talent? Hours of practice with his receivers yielding results? Will it transfer to the college game with taller and faster players?
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All the sites point to him leaning Minnesota at this point but he hasn't been in front of Franklin yet. Hopefully he can do some convincing this weekend. I do think QB is a much different spot to recruit these days with the portal but still important to get guys in the boat early.
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247's scouting report in the posted link describes a guy who would fit well in Montgomery's Veer & Shoot / Art Briles scheme:
"Functionally Athletic" is how I internally think about my athleticism these days.
Functionally Athletic seems like the 2025 version of a real gym rat.
Subtle evasiveness - sounds like a real first-in, last-out kind of guy.
I'm definitely not 'functionally athletic' but I might be 'functionally alcoholic'......
I thought that said 'functionally alcoholic' which describes my athleticism these days.
You need to drink for functionally making the same joke 3 months ago
Did I? Hmm...must be a good joke.
Can we actually use a QB as something other than a battering ram?
I'm a little confused how he's a good fit. Those schemes were best with an accurate quick and elusive QB that can throw on the run. I just don't see a big pocket passer as a fit for that scheme.
I really question what P Mont's philosophy is in the new era. He hasn't had a good offense in a decade. He's made some QB's look really bad at his post Baylor stops (it's possible they actually were bad, but over so many different QB's it looks like it could be a pattern).
His bad offenses usually featured a pocket passer type QB, which was odd to me. They telegraphed every play, were easy to defend and seemed to follow the strategy: Get stopped for a short gain on 1st and 2nd down then chuck it on 3rd. Would be absolutely pissed if that's what he brings here
Baylor lit everyone up with guys who had strong, accurate arms and weren't very elusive like Bryce Petty. RGIII was the exception and he still had a huge arm and could connect on a bunch of downfield shots. Montgomery's Tulsa team scored 52 on VT in Beamer's last game using a similar strategy with Dane Evans at QB.
Petty ran for a total of 338 yards in college with on an average of 1.8 ypc (sacks included because CFB stats are dumb). Dane Evans was even less with 244 yards and 0.3 ypc.
I don't know if he's still running that scheme, but this kid seems to match those sort of QBs.
I would be A-ok with a QB that only ran for 350 yds and threw for 4,000. I think the modern QB needs to be able to be a threat with his legs and make a defense pay for dime looks and deep zones through designed QB runs, but don't have to be LT3, J Evans, and Drones style battering rams. Give me Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray types.
If he is Tom Brady, Payton Manning, Drew Brees with his release, he just has to make the first person miss. Neither of them was ever a run threat.
Offer list not stellar, but it looks like we were competing with GT and Colorado for this guy primarily, and both of those teams have had/are having recent success at QB.
Need to have a dramatically improved offensive line for a QB like this to work. For so long the QB has had to scramble so much and/or be a rusher. No pro-style QB could work at VT because we could never protect them long enough to be successful. Hopefully the line will make these kind of strides, because I'd love to see us have a QB who actually is a QB and not having to make the plays with their legs.
Don't get me wrong, happy to have a QB that can make plays running and scrambling. Vick, Tyrod, etc. I just don't want that to have to be the primary or only way to make the offense go.
I'm convinced that Blacksburg is where offense comes to die. I'll never expect our offense to go. Fuente is probably the most astute offensive football coach we've had and he couldn't make it work without substantial talents. I'm not expecting this new set of coaches to do any better than what we've seen over the last 30 years. Our offense will probably score 28 ppg and fall somewhere in the lower middle third of offenses in the ACC and we'll lose 6+ games because we just can't score enough. Because that's what our offensive identity has been for my entire lifetime regardless of the coach.
Yes, he was "considered" an offense minded coach. What he showed us all is that it was his way or the highway (read: Bench!). If you tried to think through your reads and not do the primary play plan - he shut you down. This was all exposed after he left.
Sorry, I am not buying this line based on the product we all saw from him here.
I hope Montgomery's plan will work (but that jury is still out). I don't have enough data there to disagree that he has had success in the past and that this kind of QB could work with his plans. I feel our OL will be improved and that the youth that came with Moore will be a base to build on through next year at least.
my point is two-fold. 1. Fuente wasn't a great coach in Blacksburg - partly because we haven't had a good offensive coach in Blacksburg, like, ever. So him being the "best" we've had doesn't mean he's necessarily good. Just better than what we've had otherwise.
2. Maybe he was actually a good coach, but Blacksburg is just cursed and it doesn't matter how good a coach is, they're not going to be able to get our offense to play better than a mid-major. Basically, I don't think it's the coach. I think it's VT. VT just isn't meant to have a good offense and I don't care if you put the best offensive mind in the world on our sidelines, we're just not gonna be good at offense. I'm going to harbor this silly belief until someone comes along and proves me wrong. I will never EXPECT a coach to actually put a good offense on the field in Blacksburg. Many have tried. Many have failed.
I appreciate you recognizing that it's a silly belief and that you'll hold that belief until proven wrong
Two QBs in 1 week.
I like two sport athletes and that he was recruited by Indiana. Also 89 rating is pretty good, better than Kelden Ryan who I'm pretty high on.
Guess who just got a bump to 4*
ahem...is he still committed?
Yep
Can confirm that as of now his Twitter profile still also says Hokies FB Commit, though I guess Minnesota is making a push for him and got him to visit
Most recruits who didn't officially decommit were in "wait-and-see" mode, much like the top players on the roster who didn't enter the special 30 day coach-fired-window.
Franklin instant impact has me thinking that most of the guys he wants to keep from the recruiting class and roster will be here next season.
Thanks all.
NO WAY he is going Louisiana to frigging Minnesota. Major culture shock.
Money talks, maybe he wants to Row the Boat or just really likes Fleck, he's a kid, etc
Living in the Midwest, anybody who's ever lived in MSP will never stfu about how great it is.
800%
I could see him getting flipped to Minnesota if we get Huhn. We'll likely only get away with keeping one
We will gladly take both and let the best man win in training camp.
If that means guys like Pop get encouraged to portal, so be it
Also apparently there's rumblings about getting Sam Levitt to Blacksburg
Edit: not sure if that has any merit to it
The more the merrier. Iron sharpens iron, the more good recruits we get in house the better competition will be and the better out team will end up. That is what we had in our best years under Beamer and what we should look to expect under Franklin
I think that's just taking the news that Leavitt probably isn't going back to ASU and saying he should come here. Rumbling of him going literally anywhere (except Michigan) is probably legit.
That started with a troll account on X using 274Sports as a handle posting an image of Leavitt saying we gave him $8M and then a bunch of people believed it and reposted or made new images like it
Yeah, kinda figured it was bogus. A coworker was sending me snips from some website/message board about it. Wherever he got them from it wasn't 247/TSL or any site i've seen before.
This was one that started it...couldn't access Twitter watching my kids basketball practice at the Elementary school
From the illustrious "274 Sport" account
Offshoot of the reconfigured and highly respected SI brand
Damn Franklin getting recruits a bump already. I like this big dog stuff.
Bergeron's senior year game film looks better than average for a high school QB. He can throw on a good run with accuracy and touch. He throws the ball to where the receiver can make the play, a receivers QB. Some things we have not seen from a QB in a while. Of course this is from film on selected plays. I hope he joins us in 2026.
So you're saying Bergerson is Tom Brady to Kyron Drones being Uncle Rico?
Yes, excuse the hyperbole but like Tom Brady, Bergerson looks like he's on the same page with his receivers. Coaching? Innate talent? Hours of practice with his receivers yielding results? Will it transfer to the college game with taller and faster players?
wait... ratings go.... up?!
i guess thats what happens when you have a top 10-15 coach
Ratings rate the same.
Will we get new weights now that we're a big dog?
Or do they still weigh the same?
kinda /s
Yes
All the sites point to him leaning Minnesota at this point but he hasn't been in front of Franklin yet. Hopefully he can do some convincing this weekend. I do think QB is a much different spot to recruit these days with the portal but still important to get guys in the boat early.
still important to get guys in the boat early.
sounds like, subconsciously, you think he is going to minnesota :-)
What am I missing here? Is he not already committed to VT at this point?
Committed to Pry and after the firing it was in a stage of "I'll stay committed, but I will begin to explore elsewhere as my coach just got fired."
Oh, I hadn't heard the latter part. Can't help but think, though, that having Franklin here would help him lean towards staying.