Now or Never

Virginia Tech has an opportunity to solidify its tournament position, but they need to learn how to close games first.

[Virginia Tech Athletics]

Whenever I have a hunch that some statistic is true, I get to work on finding the numbers to try to prove it.

In this case, we really don't need any numbers: Virginia Tech cannot close out basketball games. The Hokies haven't lost all their close games, but even in the wins they've played so inexplicably poor, and have outdone all the good work they do for the first 36 minutes, that the point remains.

(That clip I just linked was after a timeout. I love you Mike Young, but c'mon!)

Below is Virginia Tech's point differential in conference play split up by five four-minute segments in each half to approximate the media timeouts.

Half Segment PF PA Diff.
1 20-16 5.6 7.2 -1.6
1 16-12 7.0 5.7 1.3
1 12-8 4.7 7.2 -2.5
1 8-4 8.0 5.8 2.2
1 4-Half 7.2 7.9 -0.7
2 20-16 7.4 6.0 1.4
2 16-12 8.3 7.9 0.4
2 12-8 7.5 6.1 1.4
2 8-4 8.1 7.2 0.9
2 4-Half 7.9 12.2 -4.3

Tech plays pretty normal basketball for the first nine segments, and then turns into Mississippi Valley State in the last four minutes for some reason. Their under-4, second-half point differential is by far their worst, which is surprising because they're actually a plus-second half team outside of that.

It's no secret that teams tend to let up when they have a late lead. You might've heard of the rubber band effect: teams are more efficient point-for-point when they are trailing, mainly because they're trying harder.

Tech has been playing with fire: in over half of their conference games, they've had leads of varying sizes at the under-4 timeout, and then the rubber band has snapped back at them. They've struggled to overcome that momentum shift, and have gone 2-3 in those contests:

  • Jan. 27 vs. Georgia Tech: led by 13 with four minutes left; won by six
  • Jan. 21 at Syracuse: led by nine with one minute left; won by two
  • Jan. 14 at SMU... no comment.
  • Jan. 7 vs. Stanford: led by 13 with three minutes left; lost
  • Jan. 3 at Wake Forest: led by one with 1:24 left; lost

Tech's interior defense is so porous it looks like they aren't even trying. Per CBB Analytics, in "clutch situations" the Hokies sit in the 27th percentile of FG% defense at the rim (64.9), 1st percentile in rim attempts allowed, and 0th percentile (!!!!) in forced turnover rate.

Simply put, they are playing with a level of passivity on defense late in games that is completely inexcusable. Tech has time to put things together, but the season will go nowhere if they can't figure out how to close.

This upcoming week would be a good time to start.

Board Battles

There hasn't been just one thing hurting Tech in close games. Sometimes it's missing free throws and open threes. Other times it's making repeated dumb passes trying to break a press (even more perplexing since Tech is normally so good at avoiding turnovers). To what degree can Mike Young control the latter? Without being at practice, we can't know for sure.

Speaking more broadly, one of the biggest red flags that's going under the radar is not turnovers but rebounding.

This year, Tech ranks 295th in Division I and next-to-last in the ACC in defensive rebounding percentage (33.4%). If the season ended today, that would be the worst DREB rate for a Young-coached team in nearly 20 years. His teams are almost always good-to-okay at cleaning up the glass.

Under Young, guards are expected to rebound the ball more than most systems. This is mainly due to compensate for not having super athletic big men — Tobi Lawal being an obvious exception, but Christian Gurdak not so much. (Tech is also playing undersized).

Lawal has shouldered an incredible load on the boards, but that's probably not by design. Gurdak has the second-lowest DREB% among ACC centers as he's limited by his athleticism. Jailen Bedford (26th among 35 ACC wings in DREB%) and Jaden Schutt (33rd) have been non-factors.

And while Neoklis Avdalas has decent rebounding numbers, there's still a higher level he can get to. There have been too many instances where he looks passive once an opponent's shot goes up. Among ACC players 6'8 or taller, the Greek native is 41st among 46 in DREB%.

This is where Tyler Johnson is missed dearly. He ranks sixth among 35 ACC wings in DREB%, and brings a level of toughness that Tech lacks at the moment. His rebounding numbers were even better last season. Tech should get him back against NC State (Saturday, 12pm on The CW), and they'll need him.

This is far from the only reason the Hokies have wilted late in games — it would help if they stopped yeeting the ball halfway down the court on baseline inbounds sets — but it's probably a factor. Offensive rebounding is a tactical choice: teams are careful not to send too many guys to the glass to prevent transition opportunities the other way.

But that dynamic changes late in games, especially for the trailing team, who has less to lose by not getting the ball since the team ahead will naturally play more conservative. And regardless, players are going to be more aggressive on the boards with the game on the line (there is evidence to show that offensive rebounding is partly a function of effort as it tends to increase late in games.)

The decisive possession from the loss to Wake Forest was a microcosm of that.

1) Gurdak gets out-leaped by Cooper Schwieger (#13) under the basket. The ball did take an odd roll and Schwieger timed it very well.

2) Ben Hammond gives up positioning to Juke Harris (#2)... not that it matters a ton since he's so mismatched to begin with.

3) Bedford came down with the ball but didn't hold on.

This was a unique situation in that Lawal was injured and Hansberry had fouled out, so Tech was playing super small. But you can find other instances of the Hokies just getting outworked on the boards.

Again, it's far from the only issue with this team, but as we've seen with four years of VT football, those types of missed details will usually come back to bite you late in games.

As a corollary to their struggles on the glass, the Hokies rank in the 19th percentile for percentage of points in the paint allowed and 23rd percentile of 2nd-chance points allowed. Shockingly, in conference play those numbers are even worse (10th and 8th percentiles, respectively).

A Case of the Yips

That said, the situation is far from dire. Tech is currently the first team out in Joe Lunardi's field. They have three Quad I games coming up: at NC State (Sat.), at Clemson (Feb. 11), at Miami (Feb. 17). Lose all three and they're in trouble; but steal just one and they'd be favored to make the tournament.

Avdalas has to get going though. I have no doubt he won't shoot 30% from the floor the rest of the year, but it seems he's letting his shooting struggles affect other parts of his games. He committed a bad turnover late against Duke that made Young apoplectic and he was benched for the final four minutes.

In conference play, Avdalas' turnover rate is way up, and his rebounding is literally nonexistent: of 120 qualified ACC players, Avdalas ranks 120th in offensive rebound percentage. His defensive rebounding is not much better.

While he's still getting his assists, he's struggling to shoot from pretty much every level. (May I make a polite recommendation to cut down on midrange jumpers? Over his last five games, Avdalas is 1-for-15 on non-paint 2's. That was a huge part of his game earlier in the season that has completely disappeared.)

Young said after the loss to Duke that they are working on tweaking Avdalas' shot. He used the term "dark place" to describe his point guard's mental state, which is fairly ominous language at this point in the season. He did praise Neo's passing, but was otherwise curt in his answer as to his struggles. When a coach declines to comment on a particular aspect of a player's game, that's usually a sign he has nothing complimentary to say.

It's easy to empathize with Neo. He's a 19-year-old freshman adjusting to the American game, and is now being booed by his own fanbase. But he was brought in (i.e. paid) to score points, and he hasn't excelled.

Meanwhile, as fantastic as Ben Hammond has been, Young did not construct this roster around him. He built it around Avdalas. There is no scenario where Tech is making a deep run in March without Neo producing.

Avdalas was brought in to lead Tech back to the NCAA Tournament. It'd be a shame if he shot them out of it instead.

Comments

To your 3rd paragraph, I've always been against boo'ing kids, and I've always classified college athletes as kids. But when you're getting paid to perform and then not performing, it gets harder to defend you...

They'll really get after ya

At this point they are professional athletes, Basketball even more so than football. So while I agree that booing your own team is bad, he is being paid to play a sport and is failing at it.

That said, I only ever boo the refs and the other team.

I think booing your own team is tacky no matter the situation.

Unless the players name is Boone!

Or Humes!!!

Reach for Excellence!

VT Football: It'll get after ya!

Proud Hokie since 2004.

Or Bruce!

But then you're "brucing, not booing".

With OkSt. beating BYU last night, the paths to the tourney are dwindling if we don't add a couple of Q1 upsets to our resume. Hopefully a head to head win against Miami will help at the very least. Still hopeful that 4 wins out of our last 8 will get it done.

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ #YNWA

As much as Neo has dropped off, it looks to me like tired legs or some injury and it's not bad enough to keep him out. Perhaps we will see Neo getting more rest when Johnson returns. It's just such a big difference between the first 10 games and the most recent 5 games.

Plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

Great article, Shelton, as always. This paragraph made me spit out my coffee. I'm not second guessing your analytics, but from my vantage point CMY teams have always "hit it and quit it"... meaning that they shoot the ball and run. I don't think I've ever seen a CMY coached team where anyone, namely the guards, are interested in rebounding the basketball, particularly on the offensive side of the court.

Reading this makes me second guess what I'm seeing!

Under Young, guards are expected to rebound the ball more than most systems. This is mainly due to compensate for not having super athletic big men — Tobi Lawal being an obvious exception, but Christian Gurdak not so much. (Tech is also playing undersized).

Is coronavirus over yet?

Late response here. Offensively, Mike's teams typically rank below average to average in O-rebounding. That's probably Mike not wanting to get out-"athleted" in transition. So your presumption is correct.

Defensively, I'm not adept at explaining the specifics, but when bigs are able to box out it allows the guards to use their athleticism to reach for boards (in other words, a guy like Gurdak is not going to win many 1v1 battles on the glass, so he needs to focus on boxing out his man in such a way that it allows the guards to get the ball).

A couple years ago Sean Pedulla led ACC guards in D-reb percentage. The years before that Cattoor was up there. Guys like Aluma, Beran, and Poteat especially never put up big rebounding numbers relative to their position group. Lawal and Kidd were up there just because they're more athletic. Problem is this year's guards just haven't been willing or able enough.

VT '21

Two things for me on this.

Wake Forest game was lost in the first half. I know we gave up the late lead but that 1st Half was legitimately the worst half of basketball this team has had in ACC play mainly driven by Neo sleepwalking. May have only trailed by 4 at halftime but Hokies had 13 of their 19 turnovers in first half. Neo and Hansberry combined for 13 turnovers in that game.

The change in rebounding strategy based on personnel. I am not surprised to see that this is the worst defensive rebounding team Young has had but a big part of it seems by design. In quite a few games you can see the Hokies setting up for transition opportunities before they actually obtain the ball. Its like the reverse uno of Young's "Fire and Forget" mentality on offense where he prioritizes being set in half court over pursuing second chance opportunities.

You will see the shooting guards drift up and towards the sidelines after opponents shots rather than attacking the basket. Hammond is an exception as he attacks the rim on both ends. I dont know if its overconfidence in Lawal and Hansberry or just an aversion by the guards to contact but some of it seems to be by design.
One thing of note on this team is they are by far the highest scoring team Young has had here, averaging 80 ppg. Nearest other Young teams come was 22-23 and 23-24 at 74.1 and 74.9. His other four teams were between 68.6 and 72 ppg. The counter is this team is also allowing the most per game of any Young team here at 74 ppg.

My biggest problem with those last four minutes is the seeming lack of fundamental basketball cognizance especially in Neo. Big lead, little time means burning every second becomes even more critical yet frequently we see this team launching up bad threes with around 20 seconds on the shot clock or making unnecessary risky passes to try to get quick hitter baskets when burning 30 seconds of clock is way more productive.

Get a good shot yes but if the other team isn't fouling you burn as much of the shot clock as effectively possible. The Stanford loss was the worst loss of the year because it should be impossible to blow a 13 point lead in 2:52 if you just hold on to the ball.

Rob Peterson
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Class of 1999

This is my biggest gripe as well. You have the lead. Call a timeout to settle the guys down and say "look, we're up 12. I don't want any bad shots. Unless you've got a wide open layup or dunk, I don't want any shots before 10 secs on the clock, got me?"

"That's it guys. Let's get out of here. That cold drink's waitin' on us, let's go." - Mike Young after win no. 300.

Well,... its Never

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

Hello Darkness my old friend.......

I still subscribe to the old adage of win your home conference games and road losses are not killers, but these guys really need to pick up a Q1 road win here soon or they can put away their dancing shoes until next year.

Plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

Yea, I hate to say it, but I smell the NIT.
Unless a miracle happens and they wake up.

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!