They do know their preppy clothes.
http://www.nbc29.com/story/26144002/uva-law-grads-open-country-club-prep...
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They do know their preppy clothes.
http://www.nbc29.com/story/26144002/uva-law-grads-open-country-club-prep...
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I can honestly say I have never had the urge to firebomb a store until today.
If you ever catch me saying
please firebomb me out of existence.
This perfectly encapsulates everything that's wrong with the majority of the UVA student body. A couple rich white dudes decide to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars, a lot of their time, and a lot of their effort to get a JD, when they didn't even have a desire to practice law anyway. So instead of sucking it up, they get the money from somewhere (huh, I wonder where. thanks mom and dad!) to open a clothing store. A preppy clothing store. A store that revolves around being preppy. Has the word "Prep" in the store's name.
I wish all of us were so, um, "blessed" with such a safety net that we could be so whimsical with hundreds of thousands of dollars.
I'm second to none in my disdain of all things 'Hoo.
But.
But.
I'm just tired of seeing this phrase thoughtlessly trotted out like a pejorative: "Rich white dudes".
So I'm not saying the following out of anger, or a sense of outrage or offense, but rather because I feel like it's a chance to maybe encourage people to think about some things they may not have thought of before.
And then I'll end with a slam on UVA, so if you just want to see that, skip to the last few lines.
How is "Rich white dudes" any less racist, classist or sexist than any of the endless parade of evils blamed on that subset of America?
For example: How do you refer to the owners of clothing lines catering to inner-city youth? I'm more than a little certain that description doesn't include a disdainful description of their race or class. At least not in polite company.
The proper word for either owner is "Entrepreneur".
Why should anyone care how anyone else invests their money, assuming they aren't spending it on something illegal?
Why are you upset that, "instead of sucking it up" and pursuing a career in something they had no passion for, they actually found another path?
What is wrong with a couple of people making a go of the American dream and starting their own business?
Is it their fault they have a large niche market of gullible fart-sniffers with a high limit on their credit cards and apparently no low limit on their sense of style?
If nothing else, can you at least be happy that there are a couple less practicing lawyers, for crying out loud? I'm sure all lawyers on TKP are the finest of the fine, but let's face it:
I freely and proudly admit: I hope someday to be rich, and I just happen to be a white guy. Who grew up dirt poor. I pity those who, rather than work hard to overcome whatever hardships they faced in life, spend their lives whining about how other people caught all the breaks.
That's life, sunshine. You don't get to choose where and to whom you are born, or when Lady Luck lifts her skirts and pisses all over your happy plans.
You do get to choose whether or not to accept and overcome challenges that come your way.
So congratulations to these two. May they find all the success a good business plan earns them, and fleece as many whiny LOLuva fans as they possibly can of their tear-stained money.
It's not surprising 'Hoos spend so much money on clothes that give them a sense of belonging to something bigger than them.
It's not like rooting for their football team will ever give them the same sense of superiority or satisfaction as their clothing choices do.
I mean, look at this sad, sad man in the striped shirt: He still needs that imaginary friend to whom he's giving "bunny ears" in a forlorn attempt keep his spirits up at the tailgate.
I can't disagree. I am a white middle class guy who got an engineering degree from Tech and has been working and saving once the loans were paid off. By many definitions I am now a rich white guy, but that is a result of hard working for more than 26 years and saving.
I think the difference is that he was making the distinction that these people seemingly hadn't even entered the workforce, much less worked and saved for over 2 decades.... but rather that they had the money to blow on an expensive degree that they don't intend on using, with enough left over to start up a business..... and these 2 people just happened to be "white dudes", I don't think it in itself was being used in a derogatory fashion, but I could be wrong
First, have a turkey leg for your eloquent admonishment, and UVA slams. I appreciate you engaging me in conversation.
Second, don't assume that I "thoughtlessly" trotted out that phrase. Without getting too far into it (because I'm already teetering dangerously close to a political line), I'm off put by the air of exclusivity that this establishment gives off, and how, based on the limited information we've been given about these guys, it seems that they're flippant with resources most of us can only dream about. That's what the pejorative "rich white dude" refers to.
And yes, most of us who are white and male do aspire to be "rich white dudes" in one way or another, but my hope is that we realize the effort it takes to get to that point and act accordingly. The UVA stereotype we like to perpetuate paints UVA as a place of careless richness and exclusivity, people born on third base and thought they hit a triple. To spend $200K on a degree then decide not to use it doesn't exactly put that stereotype to rest.
Thumbs up for the well-spoken response, and for taking no offense at my comment.
We live in times where words get thrown around casually that can give the wrong impression, and indeed, over time and with enough use, can make the wrong impression become the conventional knowledge.
Most plot-lines out of Hollywood these days make it clear that the conventional wisdom is "Rich white dude = bad guy". There was a day when our parents and teachers told us: Find a successful person regardless of their gender or ethnicity, and learn from them how to be successful. I can't imagine anything more dangerous to society than stigmatizing success.
I agree that UVA's stereotype, particularly as we engage in it here, is that of entitled trust-fund babies. I'm glad that was the angle you were working.
My apologies to everyone for the detour -- I have been reminded over the past couple of days that it is important to make whatever small positive cases you can for camaraderie and understanding whenever you can, and this seemed an opportunity to do that.
Please carry on bashing Wahoos. Because I'm pretty sure if your name isn't Angus Young, this is not a look you should be trying to pull off without getting some public shaming.
You shouldn't be baring legs that pale unless you've put on SPFcoffin.
Outsider butting in here......but I just turkey-legged all of your above posts. (krak_t and St Louis Hokie)
Y'all just demonstrated what I love about TKP.
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A random post becomes a thoughtful in-depth discussion between two people with differing perspectives, while STILL managing to provide a well-deserved vituperation of uva.
Well-done.
And.....
I think a valid point not made in all of this seriousness is that you almost HAVE to be skilled in law to even open a business nowadays.
Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming...
Holy fuck I know that kid....I went to highschool with him
What's with the dowmvote?
I didn't down-vote you, nor do I believe in the practice, but some people have hair-triggers for down-voting cursing.
I know man, I wish people would cut it out its gotten really bad lately. Oh well I suppose there's enough people to cancel of out on this site. But I reiterate myself....I know that kid and he definitely has that picture hanging up on his wall at home haha
This is an interesting discussion. This line:
...is a great one. Well in to you on this and all of you on the rest. Legs all around
Agree with your statement on racism, classism, and sexism. At the same time, it's hard to ignore the flippancy with which these 'entrepreneurs' are able to disregard 3 years of time and (what to most people would be) six figure debt because they "didn't fall in love with being lawyers." Especially when you have friends struggling mightily to work their way out from under said debt. And I interpreted that to be the thrust of St. Louis' post.
Not only do these 'entrepreneurs' come across as ridiculously dismissive of the opportunities afforded them, but they forsook these opportunities to enter an intersection of retail and fashion predicated upon the glamorization of privilege and entitlement.
Now, it's a free country, and maybe I don't get the joke, but these people need to be ridiculed.
My take on the deal is that I'd have preferred it was two VT grads who decided to profit from the UVa predilection towards prep clothing. Then made it into a highly successful business with locations in Cville, Chapel Hill, Columbia, Athens, Oxford MS, Princeton & elsewhere. Then laughed all the way to the bank.
I don't disagree with your points here, but I'll play a little devil's advocate:
I don't begrudge anyone a change in direction at all. When I went to Hokietown, I didn't know what I wanted to do. Ended up in an engineering, now work in software. Could I say that I love it? Not really. It's a great job, but is this job/industry for me permanently? Probably not. Lots of people shift gears in their careers, and these guys found something that they like more. Kudos to them for finding it out early on in life, as opposed to wasting decades being lawyers before deciding they've hated it forever. The fewer LOLawyers out there in the world, the better in my book.
Now, that doesn't change any of the rest. That they had the opportunity to make this change seems to have been an accident of birth. Lucky them. But to the other points made in this discussion, that these guys had the chance to change gears into doing what they'd (expensively) prefer at the expense of the (expensive) plans they had during their college year plays directly into the LOLUVA stereotype. For that, I'll chuckle a bit, grab my lunch pail, and head back to the job that I need to help build the opportunities I could look towards in the future.
Which won't include selling argyle socks to frat brothers. Maybe designer horseshoes for fillies, though.
Yeah perhaps I got a little carried away with the Hoo hatin' and got up on my high horse. I've definitely benefitted from the ability to adjust course once in a while. In fact I'm enjoying a career transition right now. Who knows, maybe these guys worked their asses off in a law firm for a few years, paid off all their debt, and made so much money that they were able to cash out and start their pretentious little haberdashery.
"It's a lot of color. It's a lot bowties, a lot of seersucker, a lot of madras. And it's a lot of fun,
this looks like a great example of a guy i would not hire to do any sort of serious job. might make a good coffee fetcher, though. or a fool.
Or a major tool.
Eh, I'll stick with Craftsman. Thanks for your application, though.
but really, looking at this picture just makes me angry. is it november 28 yet?
You've gotten pretty good at this TKP stuff, coach.
I see a couple of our guys apparently chimed in the comments section.
Here it is. I got the UVA campus emporium right here
EDIT: Oh, I'm sorry. I was confused. That's JPJ Arena. Sorry folks. Sorry.
Here's their emporium
The only problem I have with this, is there was damn good bbq joint (Buttz) this store replaces.
Oh man, the jokes write themselves then...
"There's a big pile of preppy Hoo crap where Buttz used to be."
http://futurama.wikia.com/wiki/Seymour_Asses
That episode gets me every time.
Oh are you walkin' on sunshine?
And now I miss my dog.
Here comes the unpopular opinion:
I feel like i'm the only one here who would actually love one of these in Blacksburg. I love dressing nice and I think it is a very classy and timeless look. Kudos to them for having a successful business plan.
Just a little toooo thick.
Your shirts are better.
(EDIT: Maroon Effect (pick a year) >>> Bow-tie Effect)
Thank you, sir!
I'm gonna have to agree with you. While most of the Boo Hoos take it waaay too far with the pastels and stuff, sometimes I feel like if you aren't wearing camo and a dirty baseball hat your True Hokie status is questioned. Ain't nothing wrong with a seersucker suit and looking nice when the situation calls for it.*
*As for what you wear to a football game, yeah, get those bowties and crap outta here.
I'm sorry, but this downvoting of opinions is getting out of hand, and there REALLY needs to be a stop put to it.
Oceanfront Hokie has 38 (well, now 39 after I leg it) and got hit with 2 downlegs for simply sharing an opinion on here. Thats freakin absurd, and its infuriating to a Hokie who wants to see this website grow with legitimate good discussion (much like we have seen directly above us in this same thread). This comment did not deserve a downleg. Period, it just didn't. I'm growing very tired of seeing downlegs thrown around like candy. We have gone over numerous times what their uses are, but disagreeing with an opinion is NOT one of them. You downleg someone enough times, they cannot post in here anymore, which is why they should STRICTLY be used against spammers and trolls. So seeing this kind of treatment given to those with very low post counts is particularly frustrating, as it very well could lead to someone getting censored off this site for nothing more than sharing an opinion.
Come on, The Key Play... we're better than this. You don't like an opinion, either reply with your reasoning or ignore it. Don't downleg people (ESPECIALLY those with less than 100 legs) for simply disagreeing with their opinion.
I definitely agree, especially for the people with so few legs.. if they have said something out of line, comment and let them know what they said wrong.. but to just "drive-by downvote" seems silly
Agreed.
I'd love to see a couple added metrics on the Turkey Legs Big Board.
Not only should your total leg count be a point of pride, but also your leg count compared to the number of down-legs you've given.
So it'd be nice to see how many down-legs each member has given.
Another metric I'd like to see is your average up-leg per post ratio, as that would add some context to the leg-count. Maybe have it only kick in after you've reached 1k legs, but that would differentiate between people generating legs with a high-volume of posts, and those who are providing comments that maybe add a little more quality banter.
Quantity is good. Page-clicks are revenue on the intar-webs.
But it'd be a good metric people could use for their own improvement, if they desired.
I don't think we need more information on how people vote, but maybe name the down vote something similar to what it is intended for. Maybe call it a "Sabre poke to the behind". Tells the original commenter, they were out of line and are deserving of a jab from our enemy.
I see what you did there. ROFLMAO
Give Joe a break. He got da shit all wrapped up
If you ask me, downlegs should be public. If you're going to DL someone, you should be able to own up to it, and defend your reasoning when asked. And if you're in the habit of DL'ing someone for simply sharing an opinion you don't like, you deserve the public ridicule that comes with it.
Can we let this go? I get the down vote is annoying and what not but people will always jump on and up vote to even it out plus some. The more you mention it the more the chode who's doing it will keep going because he gets his fake internet balls off by seeing people complain.
Thanks for sticking up for a newbie Alum07. You scored me 9 more delicious turkey legs!
alligator alley on main street has stuff like that. theres another place on main too right across from Moe's that has that kind of inventory, the name of it is escaping me at the moment
310 Rosemont
This story actually ran on the station I work at. When I saw it, I refused to put it in my newscast haha. There are a couple other VT grads that work with me and we agreed it was vomit-worthy
What station so you work at may I ask?
NBC29 in Charlottesville
Ooph behind enemy lines?
We've got a couple of brave souls like him on our site.
ELI5: what is your 'newscast'?
yup, unfortunately i am. and I produce the 4:30 am-7 am shows, so the next time you find yourself up reallll early in charlottesville, turn on nbc and watch my stuff haha
Greetings from another Charlottesville hoke! As a producer of the morning show, do you have any input as to the makeup of the sports reports, or are they overseen by the sports dept?
No, that's all them. We just re-run the stuff they produce earlier the previous day. My roommate is one of the sports reporters though, talking to him is about all the input I get haha
You need to get some kind of blackmail material on him....maybe find some way to get the sports report to be less uva-centric (I mean, does anyone really care if Ryan Zimmerman, former hoo, went 0 for 3 yesterday??)
It's as if they are proud of the fact they are a running joke, always new material to be used against them.
I feel like every store in C'ville should be named "Sour Grapes". And it would always work perfectly.
"Welcome to my store.....now BE QUIET!"
I mean, tell me you cant see this coming from a hoo tool...
"What a nice Sunday I had. I went to Sour Grapes and had a lovely brunch. They have the best crepes around. Then I took a stroll and did a little window shopping. Sour Grapes has some great new bowties! And right across the street Sour Grapes is having a sale on kitchen items... I got a great cheeseplate which I can use on the friday after thanksgiving to serve brie when the Hoos get pounded by VT. Then I went and got the Volvo washed at Sour Grapes. They had some cool new air freshener scents... I had a hard time choosing between "Crisp 100 Dollar Bills" and "Air of Arrogance". I stopped by Sour Grapes to pick up stuff for dinner and the University's Douchey Douchees Club was selling raffle tickets as a fundraiser for their upcoming tickle tournament so of course I bought a dozen. Headed home after that but of course I had to go by Sour Grapes and scoop up a nice Chardonnay. The cashier was so nice and gave me a compliment on my knit belt and pants with whales on them."
A Virginia Tech student did something similar.......
http://www.wdbj7.com/news/local/meet-blacksburgs-bow-tie-maker/26483538
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When Vineyard Vines just isn't cutting it for your preppy needs...
you know far too much about preppy clothing stores
I had a roommate from Alabama (their frats loved that shit) and living in the Arlington area did that to me.
Though, I do rock me some argyle during the winter.
"Well, we went to the University of Virginia. We know preppy clothes..."
How very cavalier.