Let me get this out of the way... First of all, I appreciate a lot of the comments on here recently, I couldn't have chosen a better time to join TKP, as we're really knocking it out of the park right now in terms of content and humor.
With that said, I'm bothered about the peer pressure that is being placed upon TKP right now, and specifically some of the messages I'm seeing within a couple of the threads the past couple days in relation towards needing to focus on the entire season. I don't like the direction the discussions on here are taking, because I know where this path goes, and as a fanbase, we don't want to go there. I appreciate the need to take the season one game at a time, but I don't want to get ourselves to the point where we absolutely melt down and consider a season a failure if we don't make or win the playoffs. That was our fanbase from 2000 to about 2010, and while it was nice to win ACC titles and be highly ranked during those seasons, I look back on those years remembering that I was pretty miserable as a fan at the end of each and every one of those years because we never made it back to the national title game, and that was during the legitimate glory years of VT football.
We had allowed ourselves to get to the point where no matter who we beat, we were constantly hyper analyzing the college football landscape to see what it meant, big picture. Every big win was met immediately with a 'this doesn't matter if we don't win next week'. We never allowed ourselves to sit back and legitimately enjoy the ride because we were putting way, way too much pressure on the team to do something that the school had never accomplished in any of its sports over the history of the university. I don't want to go back to that point.
We just beat Ohio State, arguably the single biggest regular season win in school history. We went into the largest venue with the largest crowd to ever witness VT play any sport, and we came away with a 2 TD win over a Top 10 nationally ranked team in a game where very few legitimately gave us a chance of winning. Let's enjoy the fact we won that game. If the schools wants to make shirts to commemorate the occasion, let them. If people want to buy the shirts, don't shame them for 'not being focused on the big picture'. If people want to act like we've never been there before, let them, because we HAVEN'T been there before, and there's always a chance we won't get there again. I mean, as a Carolina Hurricanes fan in hockey, I remember when we won the Stanley Cup in 2006, the reason the team wanted to keep the banner hanging in the arena understated was because they expected to be there again. In the 8 years since, we only made the playoffs 1 other time. You never know when the bottom is going to fall out, and after the football we just witnessed over the last couple years, all I want to do right now is just enjoy the ride. Should this young team drop a game or two down the line this year, the last thing I want to see happen is the fanbase look back on the Ohio State someday and think "man, we really blew that 2014 season after the start" instead of "wow, we went into the Horseshoe and beat #8 Ohio State".
Enjoy this ride. Whether it takes us to 15-0 or not, we've already accomplished more this season than just about anyone in college football said we could before it started. We have a roster chocked full of young talent gaining invaluable experience, and we're primed to bring in even more with the recruiting class. At this point, we're just playing with house money, and I don't know about you, but to me, that's pretty awesome.
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Alum, please tell me what your favorite car-wax is, because I'm sure I'm going to agree 100% and give you a turkey leg.
You'll have to ask these fine ladies. I defer decision to them.
Ho-Lee sh*t!
I regret that I have but one leg to give this photo. And for the downvoter, have some gum.
Probably was downvoted because they are clearly not using carwax. Those sticklers will get after ya and take your turkey legs.
The Ohio state game was a huge success, will we probably be favored in other games this year? Hellz yeah! But this team has a certain vibe about it that we all crave, lets enjoy it like alum said! We all said going into this season that if we made the playoffs we would be VASTLY ahead of schedule, so lets not all the sudden make it seem like that was our goal all along. If it happens, awesome, it happens and ill be as pumped as you all, if it doesn't, keep in mind that this is a really young team. Lets appreciate the enthusiasm they've injected into our fan base and go from there
Eh. I'm not going to get into a twist about it.
I love this post. It seems like some people have trouble enjoying the moment after a big win, something that being a joint Auburn and VT fan for the last few years has shown me to be extremely important.
The OSU win is like the first big drop on a roller coaster. In the middle of that drop (from last Wednesday to today IMO), you don't go looking around at other rollercoasters at the theme park or what's ahead of us on our current ride. Let's worry about the awesome-ness that is our ride. No one else can replicate Hokie football, win or lose. No one can replicate Auburn football, win or lose.
Let's worry about what's on our schedule maybe one day a week, but focus on upcoming opponents as they come. It makes the ride a LOT more fun when you're not intensely looking around at how everyone else is doing in the country.
This is OUR RIDE. Let's make it awesome together.
Turkey leg for using Griffon at BGW
Yep, it is a spectacular ride. No doubt about it.
I'm freaking pumped about beating Ohio State but I do want to focus on the rest of the season as well. The team we saw Saturday is capable of beating anyone, and we're capable of being 15-0 if we continue to play like that. I'm not the type of fan that's going to be in a tizzy from getting my hopes and being let down, but until we lose another game (if we do) I'm going to keep my eyes on that 15-0 and not forcing myself to be happy with a 2-0 start. That's not a winning attitude and I don't want to take part in being just "satisfied". And if we do lose another game? If we slip up against Pittsburgh, or Miami, or whoever... If we don't get to the ACC championship? So be it. I won't be satisfied, but I will be very happy with the improvement we've seen from last year to this year. I know Hokie Nation is better than many other fan bases but I don't believe there is anything wrong with expecting the best and being passionate about expecting wins. We haven't been able to feel this way in a long time. While the Ohio State game made me feel good, having hopes and being nervous for the rest of this season is making me feel good as well. This team is optimistic and it's got me feeling optimistic as well. It's contagious. I love this team so much.
And I'm going to have to side with Beamer and Michael Brewer on this one: "The Ohio State win doesn't mean anything unless we take care of business next week"
i think beamer and brewer are probably good guys to side with
...you took the words out of my mouth. lol.
Totally agree. I think some of us remember the 2003 huge win over # 2 ranked Miami , after which we tanked, beating only Temple. If some fans want to celebrate one huge win for the next 2 years , Fine . However, I don't think that because we beat Ohio State , Pitt,Miami,UNC or Duke are going to lay down & forfeit.This team needs to forget this great win & prepare& focus on the next game.
i think one thing that makes tkp great is everyone has a different perspective on the season and outlooks for each game. this is a great community for everyone to have an opinion about the ongoings of vt football which im sure we all love and really care about. i actually enjoy hearing everyone else's perspectives because it makes me think about things ive never paid attention to before.
of course there is no place here for derogatory comments and cut downs. but each one of us as fans is going to handle football season differently. one thing we have in common is that we're all going to back this team and watch with interest every game we can, because we care.
I'm going to want us to go 15-0 and probably stress out about every game but enjoy the osu win too. this is the best time of year. lets enjoy it.
I'm enjoying the ride.
I always love playing with house money.
did you say house money!!!!!! This is how I feel right now with our scheudle/ride!!!
When I saw Alum07 posted a forum topic "I have something I just need to get off my chest right now..." this was not the rant I expected in part due to the drama that has unfolded on other threads between members. That being said, 15-0 or 3-9, I'm proud of this team for what they did on Saturday. I'll always believe we can win the National Championship and I'll celebrate for days when we do, but until then, I'll enjoy every win and move on after every loss.
I'd be a little concerned if we went 1-9 the rest of the way.
And I don't believe we will, but my point remains that win or lose, it's not the end of times. Our day will come. Maybe this year, maybe in 20 years, but we're going the right direction.
Can't we do both? I am enjoying the win as I have watched it about 7 times now, but I would also like to keep winning.
This ^
That's not what I'm saying, though.
Look, I want them to keep winning as well, its ridiculous to think any Hokie would not want that to be the case. What I am cautioning against is allowing yourself, and the fanbase as a whole, to get to the point where we define each big win over whether or not the team is able to carry that win into even more wins down the line. I don't want it to get to the point where we're not able to really sit back and take pride in the fact that we beat a legitimate big boy of college football because we have to remain focused on the big picture, and anything less than a conference or division title isn't accomplishing our goals.
Seeing the ridicule of and peer pressure to not purchase shirts on here over the last couple days that commemorate the win over Ohio State because our mission is to win the division/conference/playoffs did not settle well with me and made me post this. The idea that we cannot celebrate this win without also hedging the greatness of the game on whether or not we keep winning down the line just isn't healthy. I saw our fanbase do that a decade ago, and I would have hoped the last 2 years of mediocre football where we were lucky to even make a bowl would have reset that mindset, and it frustrated me to the point where I had to say something when I saw that kind of mindset bubbling up again.
I'm not asking you to not hope the team keeps winning. We all want that. I'm just saying, let's not allow us to get to the point where, if the team doesn't keep winning, it taints the greatness of the wins we do have.
I do agree with you. I just think that our fan base has been conditioned the past few years to be fearful of every game. As fans, we want to do everything we can to help the team win, hence reminding everyone that we still could lose and to remain focused on the big picture. Even though we can't affect how our team approaches this "trap game", we somehow think that posting about staying focused will somehow make it's way inside the locker room. Ultimately, it's the coaches that will prepare the team, and I think the fan base trusts the coaches. I just think it's human nature to want to remind the team to "keeping playing to dominate and play to win (not play to give ourselves a chance to win)" as this is not the way we played the past few years.
I haven't posted much about staying focused, but I have been thinking it... a lot. I want to see this team continue to have the attitude that they showed on Saturday.
As for the shirts - I think they're kinda lame, but that's just my opinion. I'll support them because any money we can generate is good!
PhillyHokie007 said this a few posts below:
I think this is all that needs to be said (I'm going to say more, though).
I don't like the Mission Accomplished thing. At all. If someone else does, that's great, it's their prerogative. They think it's awesome? Sure! Enjoy! Buy a T-shirt! For me, no. I don't consider either perspective 'peer pressure', regardless of how it's said (even if it's a flat-out personal assault, I'm not going to take it personally).
I'm enjoying the victory. Hell, I got free drinks at a State College bar that night. My coworkers continue to congratulate me on the win, and I revel in it. Basking in the reflected glory, as well as gaining significant intrinsic satisfaction from it, is what makes me a fan, and I won't shy away from it.
But we've seen what happens when players and teams think that one win defines them (hint: they tend to drop a less significant game). This win doesn't define my Hokie fandom, nor does any other win, any loss, even a national championship (although I'm sure the satisfaction from one would last quite a bit longer).
I don't want to go too far here, because I don't like where I'd take this conversation. Suffice to say, similar to my earlier post, that I don't think the way another fan approaches any single game, season, celebration, disappointment, or T-shirt, should be subject to questioning by anyone but them.
I think everyone enjoyed and is still enjoying the win over OSU, however, even Beamer cautioned "we have to build off of this game moving forward" while he was still on the field! I was jacked up about the win and wasn't even thinking about the next game at that point. But Beamer made me think about it. He judges our success in the conference higher than success against top OOC competition as evidenced by his press conference quote about how "We win a big game, sure, but it wasn't an ACC game" (something to that effect). When your head coach has that mindset it can be infectious to the fans. I'll grant you that that kind of mindset can turn poisonous in some individuals, who think that just because we beat the #8 ranked team that we can go undefeated and win the national championship. Those people will declare the season over if we lose to someone like ECU.
That's not to say I won't be disappointed if we lose to the Pirates, but I know that we can still win the Coastal and possibly the conference. I agree with Philly and HOAT: react as a fan however you want to react.
"...react as a fan however you want to react."
Amen.
I will enjoy the ride also and root for this team no matter what they do the rest of the year. The ONLY reason I don't want the team to lose is so I do not have to read anywhere that what the team did against anOSU was a fluke. That, to me, would take away from the truly great coaching and the heart and effort the team put in.
But that is me as just a fan, every little ding and slight that I read about the Hokies manages to piss me off to no end. I have no blood and sweat invested in the team, just an endless passion for them.
every year there are posts/comments about trap games and keeping focus. that we need to take it one game at a time. that's nothing new here on TKP. but i will say there are a hell of a lot more people on here these days and the amount of posts saying essentially the same thing is higher than ever. i'm on the fence about that as i really enjoy reading great things from great Hokies, but at same time finding it difficult to keep up with so much content with my limited time.
but i think Alum07 is partly saying he doesn't want to see the passive aggressiveness and flat out negativity that is prevalent on techsideline and other VT fan sites. I can definitely appreciate that. i like well reasoned opinions no matter positive or negative, but the negativity can get out of hand quickly.
I think fans should enjoy the season however they wish, whether they take the season game-by-game or have an eye on the big picture. The important thing is that each person enjoys their own experience.
With that being said, I wonder if you're misinterpreting the sentiment of the fanbase; granted, I don't have the time to stay up-to-date on each and every active thread on the site. While I agree that there are most likely some people that have been pushing their own viewpoints (as fans) on others, I have gotten the impression that the contingent that values the one-game-at-a-time approach is speaking more about the team and not the fanbase.
Personally, I hope the team is taking each game as it comes. The last thing I would want to hear is that the team has gotten over-confident or spent too much time enjoying the previous week's victory, only to under-prepare and overlook the next opponent.
I have faith that Frank and his trusty coaching staff have these boys focused for the game this weekend at noon.
I believe.
You Sir, are 100% in the Correct. A fan has right to enjoy his fanhood anyway he or she pleases, as long as it doesn't infringe on other people's enjoyment of fanhood in a reasonable manner.
So, from my perspective, I think reasonable minds would agree that nobody has infringed on anyone's enjoyment of fanhood and thus, this issue is moot.
You may have just changed my opinion on this matter. Leg for you.
Agree 100%. I think that we, as fans, get worried that the team will lose focus after the big win. Since we have no control over (or even insight into) how the players think/feel, we feel the need to exert control over ourselves to maintain focus. Of course, what we as fans discuss has no impact on the players' focus, but because we so closely identify with the team, we often feel that our actions impact their actions. It's silly, but not uncommon. I've seen it before on other message boards, and if the team half-asses it this weekend and loses to ECU, many will point to the Internet's inability to move on from OSU as proof that the players weren't focused on the next opponent either.
tl;dr - fans be crazy, yo.
I agree completely.
I have been behind this team win or lose for over 20 years. There have been highs. There have been lows. I have laughed. I have cheered. I have cried. I have cursed everything under the sun. I have always enjoyed the ride though, and I always will. This is my school and my team for better or worse. Yeah, I was the one who posted the forum about the "Mission Accomplished" shirts too. I never said I had a problem with the shirt itself. It was the slogan. The slogan says it all. I don't think our mission is accomplished. Even if we win the NC, I still won't consider our mission accomplished, because I know they will say one year was a fluke. In my mind it won't be accomplished until we are that powerhouse team everyone fears. Not just the defense!!! THE TEAM!!! So, if I chided anyone for buying said shirt and they were offended. I'm sorry I'm not sorry. If you want to make commemorative shirts until you run out of cotton. Be my guest. Make a commemorative shirt for us beating W&M. I DON'T CARE. But don't put "Mission Accomplished" on the thing when we still have an entire season to play, an ACC Championship to win, a National Championship to win and a narrative about our team to change and expect me to be ok with it. I don't want to be the almost team anymore DAMMIT!!! I WANT TO BE THE TEAM THAT HAS DONE IT ALL AND SHOWN THE WORLD!!! If that makes me an asshole. So be it. If you think it makes me a bad Hokie. Well, that's just like, your opinion man. It's been said by Brewer and Beamer and I will shout it until I'm blue in the face...this win means jack shit if we drop the next game or can't even win our division. But let's not stop there. Let our mission NEVER be accomplished, because there is always a next game and next season.
Well said!
Your post was good until you wandered off the PC reservation. I want to win but I don't consider Tech a failure if we don't win a NC because I don't channel through a group of 18-23 yr old young men. I am very proud to be a Hokie, proud that Frank and his coaches and players represent a university that provided me with an excellent chance to provide for my family. I want to see Frank and his team achieve their goals. Hopefully the "fans" will be satisfied.
Let me ask a rhetorical question. Do we as fans want to win a National Championship? National Champions win big games and then play a "trap" game the next week and win that one as well.
I loved that for a awhile we were the only team in the country that had a 10 or more game win streak a year for 8 years, it was awesome. I loved how our defense played against Bama last year, it was awesome. You know what they both are when you really think about it? Moral victories! Something for us to cling to when dealing with the let downs.
Coaches coach and players play at every level to win their respective championship's. So, yeah I enjoyed the hell out of beating tOSU and I will all year. However, after looking at our schedule several months ago when it came out I knew that we have something special here if we win that game. Those feelings intensified after seeing Clemson break in the 2nd half against UGA, and FSU win by 6 against OSU, and UNC struggle with 2 FCS schools. I don't expect to win a natty this year, but we can go far if we just stay focused and play this game ONE WEEK At a Time. Because beating tOSU is sweet, but it'll be that much sweeter if we make it to the ACCCG or playoffs than it will be if we lose to ECU or GT.
Doing great things brings more expectations, it is the nature of our being. My aspirations for this team have raised after OSU, I believe this is a good thing. Look at the big picture but always,always enjoy the ride.
It was a great win and I think everyone enjoyed it in the moment, but it's not like if we lose to UVA later in the season I will say, "well that loss is ok because at least we beat OSU." Most fans live and die with the week-to-week outcome, which is what you described with "riding the rollercoaster" and will continue to support the team even if they eventually lose a game this season. Personally I would describe the fanbase as cautiously optimistic and perhaps even superstitious. So while I'll always be happy about the outcome of the OSU game individually, I wouldn't look back after the season and be satisfied just because of that win if the team fails to make a bowl game or compete for the ACC Coastal title.
I agree 100%. The one thing that bothers me about the Hokie fan base is that when we are having a good season and we lose that first game, it sucks the enthusiasm out of everyone. There is/was the attitude that if we don't go to the NC/BCS bowl/ACCCG then it wasn't even worth having a season. So Tech loses a game. BFD! 99% of college football teams lose at least 1 game every year!!!
Example: 2003 vs. WVU. 6-0 heading into that game in Morgantown including a victory over Texas A&M during a hurricane. We lost to WVU big time. 28-7. Walking around Blacksburg that week you would have thought CFB had passed away and Bud Foster went to coach for UVA. And then the team goes on to lose 3 more games because they truly thought if they couldn't be in the NCG, then there was no point to taking the field. They beat #2 Miami but lost to Pitt, BC, and UVA because they just didn't care. It showed on the field.
But I believe this team is different. I don't think this team has that attitude. And as a fan base, we shouldn't either. Celebrate victory over OSU. Be homers! And if we lose a game at some point, move on. If it's OOC, even better! We could still go to the Orange Bowl. It's sports. Life goes on. Everyone loses sometimes. How do you think OSU feels this week?
First:
For everyone that thinks player attitude (much less fan attitude) was the determining factor in more than a very small few of the games lost over the past 10 years, you are ignoring the 800 pounds worth of gorilla Frank Beamer replaced a couple years ago.
Second:
Does anyone really believe that the people who made the "Mission Accomplished" shirts themselves believe the season's mission was to beat OSU?
Can we give them just the slightest benefit of the doubt that they might be able to count past 2, and were merely saying the in-season mission of beating OSU and regaining national relevance, a mission which most everyone said was futile bordering on embarrassing, has been accomplished?
I think doing otherwise is insulting to those who made the shirt, whether insult was directly intended or not. I think it's detrimental to the since of kinship all Hokie fans share with each other to start making or implying "No True Hokie" arguments when the easiest and most fun thing to do is just let people enjoy themselves. If their manner of celebration doesn't blow up your skirt, find another grate to stand over.
That whole thing is just overblown, and I am four-square behind the sentiment that you let fans be fans, and if they aren't disrespecting anyone, why bother getting bent out of shape with the means by which they show their fandom?
Hey now, say what you want about Curt Newsome as a coach, but he wasn't THAT fat. I give it like 650, tops.
Everyone relax, enjoy the team as you wish and go eat some pie.
or some other dessert
I think people were annoyed with the T-Shirt due to the specific message on the shirt, not the sentiment you're expressing here. We are far from 'Mission Accomplished.' If that statement had been removed and replaced by something more germane to the game itself - like maybe 'Hell in the Horseshoe' or something equally stupid - people would have had no issue.
As far as the general 't-shirts for a specific game' issue, I'm afraid we are going to see that more and more often. Companies like Teespring and Sunfrog encourage marketers to capitalize on trending issues in real time with limited edition tees. You should have seen Facebook news feeds during bowls season and NFL playoffs - Seattle fans got a new T-shirt offer minutes after each playoff victory.
Regarding your sentiment - people can both enjoy the victory on its own merit, and place it in the context of the complete season. What I have experienced over the years is fans drawing the ***wrong*** conclusions from a victory like this ('we're better than anyone else on the schedule!') rather than understanding how different games might play out differently due to different matchups. And then meltdowns occur.
more importantly, I placed my first bet on a sporting event (Ohio state to fail to cover a 11.5 point spread) and won $10. Sorry I didn't just bet the money line with a 400% return. Hellooo slippery slope...
I think there is a larger point here, even larger than the one you're trying to make. I've been on TKP for the better part of 2 years, actively taking part in just about every discussion that we've had. I've seen the status quo go from 3-4 threads a day, with maybe 20 comments and fewer than 10 upvotes per thread explode into what we're seeing now. OK, that's the end of the "get off my lawn"/old man part of the program.
Part of all of this is Joe & Co. knocking it out of the park with content, and part of it is the explosion in the community (which is a product of that last part). What's happening is a huge number of threads, with a lot of people offering very stark opinions, that are being read by an ever-increasing number of people who are not going to agree.
So let me make the following suggestions to people:
1. Don't post threads with the sole purpose of riling people up. For instance, "ESPN just said ______ about us - they suck!", "Bleacher Report sucks!", etc. are not worthy of threads. We've largely gotten past this, but it's an apt reminder.
2. Use threads to stimulate discussion, not go on a rant about anything. Remember: your audience is much larger than you may suspect and is very diverse. I'll use the T-shirt thing as an example (not to single anybody out, but it's a good example). A better title for the thread could have been "anOSU Victory T-shirt: Yay or Nay?" (or "neigh" if you're on a treadmill). Encourage discussion, please. We do that well here.
3. If you're posting a link to something, please at least comment on it. Tell me why I should click it. A lot of these topic-only or link-only threads are starting to overwhelm the important stuff with a fair bit of noise. If something is important enough for people here to discuss, at least tell us why (you think) it's important. Pose questions and things you're thinking about. You don't have to be an essayist (and most of us just go TL;DR anyway), but a well-thought couple of lines generally makes for a much better discussion to follow.
So that's how he reached the realm of 20,000 legs... That's a lot of threads.
And that number is going to continue to grow rapidly with all the great content being distributed.
I love these points, GuitarMan. As another user who likes to read everything from everyone (except the occasional troll thread), it's been tough this week keeping up.
I've commented a few times in the last week about things I've seen all over the internet, like the Wang getting big ugly of the week and today's link to Pat Forde. I have NEVER STARTED A NEW THREAD. I will ALWAYS attempt to find a thread in which the link I'll contribute will be relevant. I don't want to dilute that awesomeness that is the content that is officially produced by TKP. (Not to say that many of the user-contributed threads aren't very good contributions, especially eshiben's weather reports. Any thread that anyone puts a lot of effort into and is on-topic I'll read in its' entirety.)
As the community grows, and new members gain more experience with the site, I think people will simmer down a bit. Thread explosions that resemble last saturday night at midnight will be the exception, not the norm. Unless we keep winning big games, but the only game I see on the schedule is ECU, I don't know if we play any more after that (chuckle).
As an aside, yay or nay or neigh or oink or buck-buck-buckaw or moo or baaa are all acceptable in my stable.
I too have never started a new thread in the almost 2 years I've been here. The most tempted I've ever been to do so was this past weekend. And by the time I got a topic typed out, I'd refresh and there'd be a new post with exactly the subject I'd planned on posting. Which leads me to believe that I should continue just being my normal, hairy, witty self.
So your are saying I shouldnt start a thread called Logan Thomas with the only words in it being Logan Thomas just to start a fight?....I dont understand
haha...Just remember some very uncivil discussions last year....There was a lot of passion in the fan base on the subject
Indeed. I remember coming over here on Oct. 27 last year and things were just exploding. I have no idea what happened the day before, I mean, we didn't even play a game that day, as far as I know. Just a bunch of ugliness. Sad times.
Excellent points. I agree with you. Threads should stimulate discussion and be more than just a link. I agree with Alum07 in starting the thread. I don't want to be an Alabama per se or 11w the last few days where after a loss the sky is falling and everyone should be fired/retire.
I'll reiterate a comment someone made the other day about different types of posts that I would support. All the Joe, French, Mason, staff, anything Joe deems worthy to bump gets a separate section in the side bar so it stays at the top. And other things people post that you may or may not want to see gets a separate section below. I'm sure Joe has better things to do right now than code this, but I like the idea.
http://www.thekeyplay.com/comment/177471#comment-177471
Why thank you :)
Duly noted. I am passionate to a fault more often than not. Probably has something to do with the red hair. Excellent points. For my part, I will try to do better and keep the bar high.
DING. DING. FUCKING. DING.
I couldn't have written it better myself. I think what we need are mods, not to crack down on folks, but nudge people who might be new here in the right direction of what TKP's culture is all about, which is exactly what this comment does. This requires some work to set up, and I don't have the time right now, maybe for the bye week. VTGuitarMan my first call is to you.
Thanks, Joe. I'd be happy to help. Shoot me an email any time.
yeah this is what I meant but only said much better. +1
I would add, if you feel like you want to express your opinion then check the tracker first. If your opinion is vaguely similar to someone else's opinion post already then just put yours as a comment in their original post. no need to have so many "let's stay focused" posts. (just and example) I am happy to read your opinions all the same but this way it saves having to fish for previous threads because they were pushed down by similar opinion posts. Plus at least then you have a chance to get some turkey legs for your opinion right?
You use your tongue prettier than a 20 dollar whore.
Wonderful point, beautifully expressed. I was thinking something similar when watching some footage of the downtown Blacksburg scene after the win. My first thought was, "This might be an overreaction to one game." But then I realized that it's just a great reaction to a great win. To anyone who says to act like we've been here before, I say screw that. Big game, big win, we'll act however the hell we want.
I am just going to enjoy the ride