Bitter blog - Virginia Tech or East Carolina: Who has the edge?

DISCLAIMER: Forum topics may not have been written or edited by The Key Play staff.

Comments

I agree with your entire analysis here, Andy, first-rate work

VT '10--US Citizen; (804) Virginian By Birth; (979) Texan By the Grace of God.

Rick Monday... You Made a Great Play...

I also root for: The Keydets, Army, TexAggies, NY Giants, NY Rangers, ATL Braves, and SA Brahmas

When did lane stadium lose 601 seats??

He's no good to me dead.

It happened a couple years ago, I think when they replaced a number of West stand seating with the chairs. Having the armrests and everything reduced capacity a good bit.

Yep, that was it. A change in the seating section. It was the same year that we began the reseating the second round. I think that would place it at five years ago.

Well I hope they eventually make it to over 80k+ seats.

True Hokies STICK IT IN!!!

STICK IT IN Army of Virginia Tech

Fosterball

I'm going 35-17. I think the running game gets it's first real good game and either one of Shai or Marshawn will pick up 100 yds on the day. Would be awesome to see Stroman take a punt back as well. I doubt Carden will have the time or open recievers that he had in USC-e. Gamecocks defense is pretty suspect IMO.

If you don't want to recruit clowns, don't run a clown show.

"I want to punch people from UVA right in the neck." - Colin Cowherd

In sticking with the wrestling theme that's been going around lately and the word "edge" in the title, I think this is an appropriate representation of how I see this game going down.

Edge

Razor Ramon was awesome, the Razors Edge.

Did you catch the Real Sports piece about him now, kinda sad.

The Dude Abides

"Hey Yo...." My personal GOAT right there.

"I'll put a quote here to distract you from my inane comment."-Me

I see that edge and raise you this Edge.

Closer to football too.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

Very appropriate, as the Hardy Boyz are from NC

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

And we have a Canadian WR.

It fits better than I thought.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

I think the rushing attack will be much improved from last year. We have better backs and a line that can get more push. Also, a more accurate QB and improved receivers will open up the passing game which will prevent ECU from stacking the line of scrimmage. I would give VT the slight edge when they run the ball.

"These people..are losing their minds!"

Slight???

If you don't want to recruit clowns, don't run a clown show.

"I want to punch people from UVA right in the neck." - Colin Cowherd

This is what we will do to ECU..
Yupp

"If at first you do not succeed, then skydiving is not for you." - Anonymous

Wow gallagher got old

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
“I served in the United States Navy"

Does having Magic Mike as a mascot give them any edge?
This school is weird. God I hope we don't lose to this team.

magic pirate

FOSTERS: Australian for defense

Holy shit, their mascot really is a stripper. I've never seen that before.

He's got Cavman quaking in his boots

The Dude Abides

Umm, we've got a 'roided up turkey for a mascot. Let's give that a thought before insulting other team's mascots.

Excepting the hoos, of course. They deserve it.

Comment of the day. thanks I needed the laugh at the end of the work day.

30 years after starting grad school at Virginia Tech, I finally defended my dissertation and earned my PhD.
Don't give up on your dreams.

I like roided up turkeys.

Special teams...even? ECU has well below average kicking and punting game. While it remains to be seen what to make of VTs kicking game, the net punting difference is going to a factor in this game.

Virginia Tech has a 45.2-yard punting average.

ECU is at 47.2

Boom.... Andy just owned that with MATH!
math

FOSTERS: Australian for defense

See below

beaatch

That's great if every punt is a fair catch...

2014 NET punting yards: VT 39.9 ECU 35.5.

2013 NET punting yards: VT 37.3 ECU 36.6 -- however VT had a much lower % of touchbacks (i.e. 3 and outs...urghhh). So let's look at 2013 avg yards per return against: VT 4.7 ECU 10.3.

I don't have the avg return for 2014, but ECU is no better than 11.5 yards per return against so far this year while VT is no worse than 5.3 against.

Those are big differences in favor of VT.

Great. Hardy's a better returner than Stroman.

Both kicking games have their question marks.

Edge: Even.

When stats don't work...

I think before this year is out, you will not be saying that Hardy is better than Stroman as a punt returner.

BTW, so far this year...VT 11.4 ypr ECU 7.0 ypr. I like +4.4 yrds per return for PLUS +4.4 yrds per net punt. That's a ~9 yard difference per exchange of punts.

Edge: VT

Dude.....

VT 2016
Go Hokies

Take it easy man. We're on the same team.

At least we can go back and forth with the beat writer.

Beats sending a letter to the editor and waiting a week for it to show up in print.

___

-What we do is, if we need that extra push, you know what we do? -Put it up to fully dipped? -Fully dipped. Exactly. It's dork magic.

Yes it is. And kudos to Andy for having the stones to put himself out there and put up with guys like me.

VT has had five punt returns this year. ECU has had four. Seems like a small sample size to be drawing definitive conclusions from anything.

Hardy's been a pretty good returner for a couple years now. Stroman has had two returns in his career. We'll see how it turns out, but I don't know if I see anything that says VT definitely has an edge on special teams, especially when you consider everything else.

We'll see. I'm only wrong 49% of the time. Not ... too ... shabby.

Oh, definitely a small sample size for this year. To the point of being almost irrelevant.

But they've got mostly the same guys doing the same things this year as last year and they were pretty much below average across the board on special teams last year -- and this year's numbers look like last year's so far. And against the 100+ strength of schedule last year...

Having said that, VT was no world beater in the kick off or placekicking game either. But there are some new faces there for a reason even though the old faces are mostly still on the roster.

I guess that's why they play 'em.

You can't triple stamp a double stamp.

Oh, definitely a small sample size for this year. To the point of being almost irrelevant.

But I'm sure as hell going to quote these irrelevant statistics to prove AB wrong.

We are the Hokies. We will prevail. We will prevail. We will prevail. We are Virginia Tech.

You mean like the 2014 punting avgs???

You know, I think I'm gonna trust the opinion of the beat writer, who's seen a lot more of this team than I have, and who gets paid to analyze this stuff.

So it turns out the special teams were probably...EVEN! Both teams missed a FG attempt. VT had a nice punt return to set-up the tying TD (Stroman IS going to be very good), but the kick OB was equally crucial. The rest wasn't really a factor, I don't think.

But c'mon Andy...when ECU passes? Edge: VT? What were you thinking???

They don't have AJ laying the boom, though

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

Or Slye.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

This... No one can argue.
Edge: VT

For #AlltheSpecialTeams

What's Important Now
The Lunchpail.
The Hammer.
BeamerBall.

Sorry, Andy, but I gotta give you a minus leg for that whole "Virginia" thing in your blog post. Nothing personal.

principalities

ECU has the edge.

Am I too late?

We put the K in Kwality