Defensive end Jalen Dalton (Clemmons, N.C./West Forsyth) has set a date to announce his college decision, according to 247Sports National Recruiting Insider Ryan Bartow.
Dalton will announce for either Virginia Tech or North Carolina at 3:45 p.m. ET Nov. 13 (next Thursday) in the media center at West Forsyth High School.
The 6-foot-5, 235-pound Dalton is the No. 4 weakside defensive end prospect in the 2015 recruiting cycle per 247Sports Composite rankings.
With the Hokies in serious need of Defensive End, I will closely be watching which college Jalen decides to attend.
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Here's to hoping!
Come to us Jalen!!
um, how about a NSFW heads up?
I mean it's only a girl in a bathing suit. You see that every time you go to the beach. I'm not in work but it's not like she's taking it off, IMO.
oh you're right! totally SFW then.
Yeah seriously. Also, there are a few of us women on this site who don't
come here to see half naked women...just saying...
Well there could be...
LMAO god I love Seinfeld. I guess this could be true. :)
There could be men looking for football players running around in spandex, too. To cover all our bases, and satisfy Title IX...
Well, I don't know about Jalen.....
Seriously...where do I sign?
......for committing to Virginia Tech
i'm in that photo somewhere...
Considering the original intent of this photo, really not a fan of re-purposing it.
Agreed.
I don't get it.
It was an event organized to thank everyone for their support after the campus shootings on April 16, 2007.
Hokies Thank the World Page
Hokies Thank The World message to be recorded from outer space
(I'm in the "V")
Oh I see thanks for the clarification. I agree that's pretty uncouth.
2007 was my Freshmen year. 4 of the people shot were friends/classmates of mine and only one survived so yeah, while it may not be "rude/immature" in your eyes, I find it entirely inappropriate.
well then i will take it down.. that's all you had to say
Thanks.
thank you for being civil as well and not creating an argument!
No problem.
Much more better. Good stuff.
How about you don't copy and paste pretty much an entire 247 article. At least provide a link and use blockquote if you're still too lazy to write your own stuff
So I'm just gonna assume you're the one who gave the down vote. I wish people would get over stuff like this, it's modern day journalism, everyone steals everyone's story. I for one am just glad to be able to get on TKP and find out great news like this from guys like HokieBlitz who can post stuff while I'm at work. Thanks again.
What he's saying is he doesn't have a problem with HokieBlitz posting this but he wants him to provide a source and put the text he copied and pasted from the article in quotes. There is a reason for the quote button.
Wishing people would get over plagiarism?
Count me out.
Stealing a story and citing the source and plagiarizing are two different things. One requires an extremely minimal amount of effort and the other requires a lack of integrity and respect for the person who did the work originally. All he needed to do was give 247 credit.
Modern day journalists still attribute their source.
That said, it's also part of the community guidelines:
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Don't copy and paste entire articles into posts and comments. Limit it to the most relevant paragraphs. Include a link to the original source so people can read the entire article. Wrap pasted text inside <blockquote></blockquote> tags using the quote button.
http://www.thekeyplay.com/content/2013/july/24/community-guidelines
Are you a professor of African-American Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill?
Overqualified
Ive got more pressing issues than worry about plagiarism. Im more worrying about guys like Dalton, Sweat, McGirt, Gaines, Tolliver, DeBerry, Taylor commit to VT . BTW, any VT college student should know that its not plagiarism if you give credit to the source. Makes me wonder if you are an in-closet LOLUVA fan.
if that's what you're referring to, i don't think that's a sufficient citation. but then again, us engineers isn't very good at english.
If you look at the link VTrumpet provided, that's not the citation needed. Credit goes to JC Shurburtt for the article that HokieBlitz copied and pasted.
sick down vote bro
Where did you give credit to the source??
Defensive end Jalen Dalton (Clemmons, N.C./West Forsyth) has set a date to announce his college decision, according to 247Sports National Recruiting Insider Ryan Bartow.
That's not your source, that's a copied line from an article written by JC Shurburtt of 247Sports.
Shurburtt cited his source, you did not. Plain and simple.
Oh so its the source of the source. Now I get it. Seems like a pretty dry piece of journalism to be running for the plagiarism hills on. I don't think anybody is stealing a Pulitzer. With that said, rules are rules and a simple link might have been more appropriate here with the meat of the story being that we are in the running for a really good DE and he will announce soon. While downvotes were probably appropriate, I don't think it would have ever crossed my mind without the above conversation.
You could try this on for size...
Via JC Shurburtt of 247Sports...
With the Hokies in serious need of Defensive End, I will closely be watching which college Jalen decides to attend.
Except you didn't give credit to the source.
Edit: Why are calling him a Hoo for correcting your mistake? Geez.
some of you are missing the point. When there is no time constraint, we can all get technical , we re all smart hokies. the forum is a quick reminder that one of the highest rated recruit in the country has the hokies in his top two and will be making his decision on NOV 13TH.
Missing what point? You made a mistake by not correctly citing your source, VTrumpet corrected you and instead of taking his advice you call him a Hoo?
Well, it's been said above, but for emphasis I will repeat it. Observe and follow the Community Guidelines. You copied and pasted information from somewhere else. While this is not as egregious as taking things from behind a paywall, pay credit where it is due. As the Guidelines state, post a relevant snippet and a link. The people that broke the news deserve the page views for the work they did. Yes, this is interesting, and relevant to what we like to talk about around here, but there's really no urgency in this that prevents you from taking 10 extra seconds to use good etiquette.
Somewhat respectfully, I think you're missing the point. I don't care if Michael Vick discovered extra years of eligibility and is coming back to school, it's more than some courtesy you can skip. Someone else (in this case, Mr. Shurburtt) spends time every day compiling this stuff and putting it up on the website. How many people view his stories absolutely matters for his job security. Posting his story word for word without proper attribution means none of us know of a reason to visit his site. That's why it actually matters that you stole content from another website and posted it here. If you want, add in the fact that its unethical. If you didn't write it, please don't lead us tp assume you wrote it. Even though you aren't a journalist or an academic on this forum, please consider things you learned while in school.
tl;dr: source your shit.
Did I really spend 20 minutes writing this? Well don't I feel silly. And can someone get me a ladder? This horse is really high
I only come to TKP to learn about VT athletics. Anything else you are babbling about, I already knew. even after reading your rambling, I'D do it the same way if I had to post it again.
i don't usually like to high horse.
but i enjoy reading TKP. i'd hate to see something happen to it because people aren't citing articles that they're posting.
You know, all it takes is to go back and add a URL to your post. In the time it's taken you to type various replies and dig in your heels to the effect of "screw the Community Guidelines," you could have done that twenty times over. All that is being asked is that you properly source your information. There is liability that can befall TKP if this kind of stuff keeps happening. That's why there is an expectation of proper sourcing.
When you don't source, it appears that TKP is trying to take credit for breaking a story which is essentially ripped directly from somewhere else. For a website that just got its media credentials and is quickly trying to cement itself as a legitimate news source that puts out incredibly thought provoking and in depth analysis, nothing can cut it off at the knees and ruin all its good hard work than to get labeled as a website that steals its information from other locations.
If you're pulling something directly from somewhere else, source it. Otherwise, keep your mouth shut.
And another thing.... I'm getting really f'n tired of the overly casual use of the downvoting. People are getting hit way too hard recently for things that simply do not deserve it. Period.
The only comments in this thread that deserved the DVs are the ones showing complete ignorance towards the rules we have in place.
8 downvotes for pointing out that the article was a rip without proper citing, which is required in the guidelines. Another downvote for someone saying that saying "According to...." without linking is probably not good enough. 3 more downvotes for someone saying that its not acceptable to insult posters by calling them names (as in 'Hoo') for pointing out a violation of community guidelines. Another downvote to the freakin Moderator for pointing out that guidelines were violated. And then after that it is just snowballing to the point where everyone going forward who disagrees with HokieBlitz gets a downvote, regardless of how respectful or constructive the conversation is.
This right here. This thread is a complete showcase for the misuse of the downvote process. People should not be penalized for sharing opinions, ESPECIALLY when those opinions are 'hey, please don't violate the community guidelines'. I mean hell, even a guy asking for a NSFW tag with a bouncing boobs gif got tagged for 2 downvotes. The abuse has to stop.
Downvoting is part of community guidelines. I would give you two up-votes if I could . But why so sensitive?
I... bu.. how...?
You seem to have a complete lack of awareness or care for the rules of this community, and that is sad. Let me help refresh your memory.
COMMUNITY GUIDELINES
And as for why does it matter, its not like the Mods and admins really abide by this, right?
http://www.thekeyplay.com/comment/186884#comment-186884
http://www.thekeyplay.com/comment/208173#comment-208173
Reading. Pshaw! That's as useless a waste of time as avoiding plagiarizing.
Since we are apparently making no inroads on this down-vote stuff, can I get a ruling from the judges:
Is it ok to downvote stupid?
Provided that said stupidity results in actions contrary to the Community Guidelines...
In any other case, please just roll your eyes or shake your head, as appropriate, and move on.
Since Alum has nicely taken care of everything I would otherwise say, please enjoy the following GIFs involving my favorite breed of dog, the majestic corgi:
Will t make a difference? It seems like most downvote getters just brush them off rather than reflecting on why.
(I suppose I'm in this camp, actually, because I stand behind what got me 8 dv's above and don't plan on apologizing. I guess people are calling me out for calling him lazy, which isn't very nice on my part)
An automatic timeout after getting a net -X turkey legs or something might be a stronger message, but it might be overly harsh
I guess people are calling me out for calling him lazy, which isn't very nice on my part.
How do you know its a He?
That right there is a reason for downvote. LOL.
I'm actually a misogynist asshole who thinks only men like sports. You got me.
ETA: yes, I should have said him/her. But you know, time constraints and all that.
Seriously, I don't post a whole heck of a lot on here, but i am really noticing alot of arguing here recently over this whole "up-vote, down vote" thing. I don't get it. Does a downvote really do anything to you? I'm not asking to be an a-hole, that's a genuine question. It just seems that in every post there is an argument over up-votes and down-votes...
I agree with you and was going to say the same thing. Multiple down votes can hurt you, but one or two here and there by accident or by someone upset with you really don't matter unless you are obsessed with your turkey leg count.
This complaining about a single down vote thing is beginning to annoy me and starting to take away from the purpose of the voting and the purpose of TKP.
Your question was just answered.
2 comments up.
Right here.
For my part, it's an attempt to stem incorrect behavior that might degrade the community. If everything starts becoming a like/dislike voting contest, then things devolve badly. Of course, many threads devolve anyway, but that's because we're seeing a lot more contentious stuff being posted, largely as a result of frustration with the season. This is a growing community, and those of us who have been around a while are trying to encourage the behavior that has made TKP great - civil discourse, insightful posts, and hilarious stuff to help us pass the time. Downvoting is for offensive content and violations of expected standards. Used to be that days, even weeks, might go by with no troll threads, flame wars, or even a single downvote. Now it's almost daily where people are sniping at each other and misusing the system. It seems trivial to many people, I know, but preserving expected standards is a worthwhile endeavor. It takes minimal effort to do things appropriately.
This is why I initially posed my question. I have been reading this site for a few years (I did inadvertantly create a new profile because I forgot my other username) and I loved all the funny, yet informative posts on this site. It just seems that those posts have given way to arguments over something that, as you mentioned, seems trivial. I do understand the desire to preserve standards, and I agree that it is a worthwile endeavor. I just wonder if constantly pinging on every little downvote is a good thing. Could it be provoking the immature activity? I am in no way trying to be a jerk here, or cause another argument. I applaud everyone's effort to keep TKP the great forum that it is, just wanted to voice an opinion.
These types of complaints aren't going to last forever, because eventually those in charge of this website are going to act, and its not going to be pretty for those who are abusing.
My reason for complaining about the downvotes is because I don't want to potentially lose good contributors to this site because they didn't understand or didn't care to follow the guidelines in place for downvotes. We're getting very close to a precipice where the banhammer is going to drop, and its going to drop hard. Those who abuse will be gone, and the ones left will be sitting there saying "we tried to warn you".
It's a good question - the old, "ignore them and they go away" idea could apply. I don't harp on every -1 that happens. No one should. Accidents happen, people forget they can reset, and some people just forget what the standards might be. Let that slide, sure. I think in this instance, we have a member who did something wrong, pushed back hard (using much more effort than would have been necessary to rectify the mistake), and now we're all just bitching at each other, but there is systematic misuse of voting on this thread - anyone who is sticking up for the CGs is getting hit, so that's not just something random that's happening. Probably time to:
I generally avoid worrying about them, since a dv here or there doesn't really hurt anyone's leg count. And since voting is logged, I trust Joe to handle anything that gets egregious. I think the original argument about sourcing is valid though, and that's where this started
People constantly complaining about the downvotes annoys me more than people abusing the voting system, and I created the system. "Comment Score: " should be the barometer for how well your post was received, not the total of up and down votes. There'll always be people who can't follow the rules (those who downvote based on opinion) as well as folks who misinterpret a post/comment as a breach of the community guidelines. Complaining about downvotes adds even more noise. Instead, take a break from the website, read another college football article or start a new thread and share something insightful.
Threads like this make me think twice, and regret, the amount of time and effort I put into TKP.
I'm not picking on you fenix420, just was the best place in the thread to respond.
Sorry about all this
No offense taken Mr. Lanza, I am in agreeance with you 100%, and that's kinda what I was getting at.
I haven't thought the following through, so I'm sure there's something horribly wrong with it, but here's an idea:
How about restricting new members from issuing downvotes until they've been on the site x-months, or have accrued several hundred legs of their own.
That'd give new member time to see and get comfortable with how the TL system is supposed to work, allow them to upvote things they like in the mean time, and remove a lot of the contentiousness of improper downvotes.
Less policing. Less bickering. Less distraction.
I don't think this addresses the problem of people not following the rules. It's not just new users, and after the waiting period was up, people that chose to, could do whatever they want. I may end up suppressing the individual upvote and downvote counts and just show the comment score; ignorance is bliss.
I almost think if you suppressed the individual counts that would make the situation worse.
Maybe you should make downvotes public. Completely eliminate the anonymity. Do it for upvotes as well. That way, its clear to everyone what is going on if/when abuse occurs and if it does happen, the community will be able to deal out its own punishment in kind. You do this, and I guarantee this issue will subside. People are hiding behind the wall of anonymity, so break it down.
Also, thinking meta for a second... I know how you gave GuitarMan auto-blur abilities... maybe you and he could dole out auto-promote status for comments you deem worthy? And not to auto-green them, but with a flick of an admin/mod switch, any comment deemed worthy gets a stamp of approval, or the background goes a shaded maroon or whatnot. Just a thought. Sometimes I think your all's voice gets lost too often in here.
How could the situation be worse if only the total is displayed? Most times people complain about it because they wrote something not worthy of a downvote to go along with a bunch of up votes. If they don't see that -1 or -2 and all they see is a +4 instead of a +6 ignorance becomes bliss.
There's no chance in hell I am making the votes public, all that would lead to is people vote stalking.
I dont have a magic wand to make these changes, they take that I don't have to engineer. Honestly, I'm more inclined to charge everyone a fee and use a paywall to ward off the dopes.
Again, the easiest solution(s) for all involved is what I mentioned above. It's not ideal, but it's not the end of the world.
Hey this brings up a good point. I just noticed that comments are blurred if they hit ten downvotes regardless of how many upvotes they get. Seems unbalanced to me. Regardless of whether or not you conceal the total upvote/downvote totals, would it be possible to only blur comments if they hit -10 on the overall score rather than ten downvotes?
EDIT: Also, you're the tits, Joe. You run the best damn VT site on the interwebs. Don't let all the brouhaha about downvotes getcha down. Everyone's a critic.
Agreed, I'm sick and tired of the whining associated with downvoting. If arguments like these continue, might as well just remove downvotes and/or turkey legs altogether as it's seriously degrading the quality of comments.
Agreed, I am all for following the community guidelines, but there are wayyyy too many posterS on here that get so butt hurt after a down vote or two.
And I think, as has been pointed out, that citing your source is also....
I get so excited to log on and see 20 new posts in the Jalen Dalten thread -- then I discover all of them are regarding downvotes and upvotes. I feel like I'm watching a CSPAN debate entitled "Climate Change" where all of the delegates are arguing about immigration.
this is straight from the TKP About Us page:
you came to the wrong neighborhood!
Finally something in this thread worth upvoting. As much as the discussion has been about "improper downvotes" none of the upvoted posts added anything beneficial to the community or discussion in any way. Aka, they're just as bad.
I've got 99 problems but a downvote ain't one.
Sooooo tempting to ironic downvote..... Must restrain self.
Was there a time constraint with this? It probably took you 15 seconds to start a new forum post, copy, paste, add your line at the bottom, and post. I get that you enjoy posting references to other topics concerning the Hokies as soon as they are posted, such as ESPN articles and the like, but if you can copy and paste the text of an article, you can, at the very least, copy and paste the link to that article. You would be upset if someone stole your work in your job and got credit for it without mentioning you at all, so just do him a courtesy. It's not asking that much to just say that you got the information from someone else.
I'm starting to hate being the leaders in Crystal Balls.
Seriously, I thought we were #TeamBallsofSteel anyway.
Suspense is killing me.
It looks more like you just had some Chipotle.
he needs some chipotlaway for sure
So I'm thinking we get Chris Clarke this Thursday afternoon for BBall and next Thursday afternoon we get Jalen Dalton for FBall
One hour before Chris Clarke commits, huh....
NAILED IT!!! Do we have another member with #sources?
Also thought there was going to be some big news (since this had 64 comments), but no, just a bunch of comments arguing the community guidelines. got my hopes up
Came into this thread expecting to see 74 posts about Dalton's commitment...instead got to sift through bickering about sources, plagiarism, and The Hoff.
So..............after the lengthy sidebar.........is there any new news regarding Jalen's announcement?
but how about that Kate Upton gif! mamma mia! I came back to this thread just for another peek!
i was lucky enough to have a friend send me the link to some.....other..photos of her.....yowzas....
Gotta love a woman in tie, huh?
Ol' Verlander ain't shy either.
haha no doubt
Wow..what a waste of time scrolling, looking for new information on..you know the title of the thread. Just lost 5 minutes of my life reading about downvotes and turkey legs and such. I'm sure potential recruits that may want to check out what's going on with the hokies on the key play website were enthralled with the downvote argument, and will come back again to read more about it...
well I guess I don't need to watch Jerry Springer today to get my fill of useless drama!
I'm over here scrolling like
And I guess getting Jalen would be cool too!
ooopsss spaghetttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pardon us, just doing our duty as the internet police
Completely agree...for most people following the team, its nothing more than a hobby. No reason to get up in your feelings about a virtual sign of disapproval.
I really hope Beamer, Foster and Wiles all make an effort to attend Dalton's game tonight. If you want to get rid of the notion that you don't recruit well, you better go out to your top targets games the weekend before they make their decision, especially when we have a bye this week!!!
Supposedly a lot of coaches on the road this weekend, I would think Dalton's game will be covered.
For those that are not on Twitter - this exchange happened earlier today:
I don't think anyone has ever questioned how important Foster thinks recruiting is, people question his actual recruiting skills.
I've followed VT recruiting since 1998 and I've seen Bud evolve greatly. It used to be that we kept him away from recruits. He didn't seem to have the desire to make the time for the hand holding necessary to woo a 17 year old. I think that switched with Vince Hall. As many remember, Hall was wowed by UNC and we sent in the entire defensive staff + Stiney to convince him that this was the place for Vince. Word on the street after that was that Bud was spectacular that day.
Since then, Bud has held his own in NOVA as the lead recruiter on many important guys (Ekanem comes to mind, where we made up a ton of ground from November to KE verballed pretty late in the process). We bring him in on all the bigtime defensive recruits as the specialist. He was DeShawn Hand's "favorite recruiter," which eventually didn't matter but I'm not sure that was on Bud.
You can hear Bud being more patient with the media as well, he's a much more engaging interview now than he was in 2002. (He's much more interesting than Frank with the media).
This evolution is why I have become a supporter of giving Bud a chance once Frank steps down.
I had the opportunity to ask that recruit about that (now infamous) day once, and while he made it clear that everyone made him understand just how important he was to VT (and therefore caused him to choose VT), it was something Stiney did that had the greatest effect.
I didn't come out and ask him to be able to repeat the story on a message board, so I don't feel totally comfortable saying much more.
On a side note...
I have a TON of faith in Stinespring, though, because of this and other first hand accounts. It really bothers me to see people seemingly try to out-do each other spewing their venom towards him on message boards. Same thing goes for, DeAngelo Hall - great Hokie that does things behind the scenes that no one will ever hear anything about.
* I know no one is spewing any venom here. Responding to any posts that attack them only inflames things. I just like to pick innocuous spots here and there to throw out posts supporting those guys, just because I feel it needs to be done. Carry on.
Good points. Wish you could share more but I respect your stance.
On a side note, I've only ever heard good things about DHall from people around him and the program. People assumed that he was selfish and a problem because he was too emotional and talkative on the field (he was less talkative than Ronyell Whitaker and no one seems to have anything vitriolic to say about him). Just my two cents.
Haha - Ronyell was the ORIGINAL D Hall! LOTS of hate for him on the boards back in the day, too - maybe the haters all died off, lol. There is a huge portion of the fan base that just does not tolerate trash talk - Hokie respect, and all. Some are OK with it, to a degree, understand that it is part of the game, but can't tolerate any penalties that come from it (I think most coaches would fit into that category, as well). I understand that, and see that, logically, it is the best way to go. You need to stay under control. I get it.
Still, I'm emotional, see football as an emotional game, and I probably fit into the lunatic fringe on this issue... I loved Ronyell - kindred spirits, I guess. The more he talked, the better he played. I was fine with the occasional unsportsmanlike penalty - it was just paying the freight. Intimidation was a bigger part of the game back then, and Ronyell had it down to a science.
+1000 many folks just understand how mentally challenging of a game it is. Some do and hate it just the same but trash talking is a craft. First of all, there is a lot that goes into preparing, and then when in front of 10's of thousands of fans, maintaining that focus and edge on the gridiron. Some guys are able to realize that they have the innate ability to shift their opponents' focus, edge, and fearlessness to their advantage. If you can get a guy out of their zone you open the door to penalties and critical mistakes. Its not for everybody and not everyone can do it but to those who can: kudos and respect.
I didn't mind that Ronyell talked trash. I minded that he talked trash after giving up 30 yard gain after 30 yard gain.
Ronyell Whitaker was an ok player, nothing special at this level, but he cost us games because of his personal fouls. I know he cost us a Pitt or West Va game or maybe both. I also remember a INT he got vs Miami and he thought he could show boat to the end zone and got caught by someone he didnt see. Couldnt stand him when he was here. And for the record I liked Jimmy Williams and DHall. Maybe it was because they could play and didnt get penalties at all the wrong times.
FWIW I've also heard good things about Whitaker as a person, he just did some bonehead things on the field. I dont know how posters dont remember that.
Ronyell even delivered a late hit on Michael Vick out of bounds during the 1999 Spring Game. I was flabbergasted.
It was a BC game I believe when we stopped them on 4th down at the end of the game and he got called for unsportsmanlike conduct, giving them a 1st down and eventually the victory. Just a total "me" player and a bonehead on the field. Whitaker always made me wary of players wearing #2. I liked Jimmy Williams, but I think Josh Morgan was wearing #2 when he muffed the onside kick against Matt Ryan...
No it was definately the Pitt game when they had Larry Fitzgerald. All they did was throw fade routes to LF in the endzone and he caught it every time. We stopped them on 3rd down and they were around the 50. Whitaker got a unsportsmanlike penalty after the play was done which gave Pitt the first down. They then went on to score via a fade to Fitzgerald covered by Whitaker. He got us some other penalties in the gator bowl against FSU as well, along with getting torched by the FSU reciever.
Yep. BC game is seared into my mind. Thanks for recounting it. My day can only get better from here.
Here is a quick personal story about Whitaker.
In 2000 I was living in West AJ. A few weeks after the Miami game that year where we got beat and Vick didn't play, I was walking out of the dorm one night with my buddy and we were talking about Santana Moss.
2 guys were walking in from the direction of the athletic dorms and one of em looks at us and says "This mother F'r righ here made Santana Moss an all American" and started cracking up and pointing at his friend.
That friend was Whitaker. I didn't recognize who the other player was though.
I love Stiney. He's the best OC on the staff.
Looks like he is headed to UNC based on his latest tweet. :(
That's a retweet from one of his friends
Doesn't mean this thread isn't about to melt down, but I wouldn't read too much into it.
a UNC commit friend, at that.
i wouldn't read much into it either.
Yes, that does not look good.
mind embedding? no twitter at work.
Here is the thread of tweets
TY sir, have a leg.
I agree, not looking into it...fingers crossed for Thursday.
This UNC recruit seems to imply that going to UNC would be turning oneself into a sheeple (3 sheep emoji following blindly) Hopefully Dalton is all like:
I wouldn't read much into it. Plus based off of what he said it appears his friends don't know where he is going and that probably includes the UNC commit. Seems like the UNC commit is trying to sway him more than anything.
I remember when Trevon Hill had a pro UNC tweet a couple days before his announcement when he was down to UNC and VT and a lot of people on here freaked out. Stay calm, recruits tweet or acknowledge these tweets in Jalen's case to build suspense for their announcements and honestly if I were a recruit I would do the same.
I'm not reading into it too much. I think it is more his UNC commit friend trying to sway his decision
So we're just gonna forget that he retweeted this a few days ago? Since we're on the topic of basing recruiting opinions off of tweets and retweets.
Probably wouldn't be smart to say on twitter what you plan to announce on Thursday. Maybe I need to step away from ledge. :-)
Staying positive and hoping for a commit Thursday. It would be great to see him as a Hokie!!!
The suspense is killing me. With the season not going as good as I hoped, I could use some good recruiting news.
Hopeful for this commit from this one!
Seems like this one is probably going right down to the wire. Haven't been this excited/nervous for a recruit's decision in a long time.
....since Nnadi
Ooof. Thanks for the reminder!
The excitement is getting the better of me and tomorrow is going to be a butt clencher kind of day
I'm sure our coaches will hear tonight or by mid morning tomorrow what his decision is. Then the crystal balls can change and we'll know.
getting nervous
I think throughout this recruiting season, we are going to have these moments where the kid has been through the process and is sitting down to make his decision and the big question is "What happens when Beamer retires?"
That could cost us significantly this year.
You need to worry more about whether he has peer pressure from friends and family to stay in NC. I wish he had made his decision right after his OV, I hate he's had so much time to be pressured.
I'm glad he took some time to try to make the right decision. I mean, this is a kid deciding where he wants to go to school. I'd hate for him to make it rashly while swept up in the fun of an official visit. Hopefully, taking a while to decide = not transferring later.
Oh, I agree he needs to make the right decision for himself. I was just referring to silly peer pressure, for a young man sometimes they can make wrong decisions listening to their friends. I want him to be happy with his choice on a personal level.
Yeah, I know what you meant. The whole recruiting thing just seems so sleezy sometimes, though. It's my least favorite part of college athletics.
Anybody have any #sources on where he may be leaning? Seems like he has pretty quiet about where he is choosing, which I think just shows his maturity level.
Supposedly it's a battle between UNC's academic scandal vs. Beamer retiring early (wonder who's peddling that...) with both sides feeling optimistic.
I would say it's 55% VT, 45% UNC, so... continue to be nervous I guess.
On a brighter note, despite the recent CB's to UGA for Sweat, apparently VT is the leader in the clubhouse for him at the moment as Ryan Bartow said...
If that's the true sticking point, then I don't reasonably see how he's not a Hokie tomorrow.
Although we've had a few down years and some people are calling for CFB to be gone, Fedora's seat at UNC is probably pretty toasty too after going 7-6 last year and being 4-5 this year.
But the main thing I see is that our situation is controllable, UNC's isn't. The chance of CFB being gone after this year is slim to none, and if he is gone it's because he was forced out by the administration. They're not stupid. Whit and everyone else in the Athletic Department knows the talent that we're in the running for, so they're not going to fire Frank (or force him to retire) right now and watch all these recruits walk away. UNC on the other hand can't really do anything except sit back and hope that more former athletes don't continue to speak out about their practices. If the NCAA wants to open up a big investigation and punish them, they're gonna punish them. UNC can't do anything about it.
Dalton & Sweat= Make me doubly nervous & sweating bullets.
Looking forward to an update on this. With possible sanctions coming to UNC, I'd say its easy. But crazy things happen
We need this so badly. Come on Dalton.
Well today could either be viewed as the start of the climb out of the defensive funk we're in or could be viewed as just another frustrating day in a series of frustrating times for VT football lately. Let's hope for the former.
Don't get me wrong I like the class we already have, but we need more of quantity of quality. Depth has become an issue.
Yep with so many other big time recruits watching what he does, Dalton's decision could make or break our class. If doesn't pick VT then we are in some trouble.
you're 100% right about depth being an issue this kid would be huge for the d. fingers crossed he goes with the good guys today
today at 3:45pm is the start of VT reeling in the FAB15
I have a disturbingly good feeling about today. I'm not sure if it has more to do with the frequency of his visits to Blacksburg, or a feeling that things are about to start trending in a positive direction. Fingers crossed.
I do too - my first email at work was from a guy with the last name 'Dalton'
Its kind of crazy... I can't recall ever being this down about the football team on the field, but I can't recall ever feeling this good about a potential recruiting class coming in.
Its like bizarro world right now.
If it's between NC and VT, I can't see the academic scandal and threat of NCAA sanctions helping NC very much while the trips to VT have to have helped.
From what I've read this year, the game experience at VT really impresses the recruits.
I hope he commits to VT. We've had some poor recruiting classes and the depth needs the shot in the arm.
Please, send us scarey monsters, Foster is the dean of scare school.
Monster U!