I'd be 100% okay with amending the policy. Tyrod won ACC POY, so I'd like to see his retired, and would be absolutely onboard with Bam Bam Kam receiving the honor, too. But as the rule stands, I don't think there is anyone eligible who hasn't had their jersey retired.
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Retired Jerseys
In 2002, the Virginia Tech athletics department developed a new policy on retiring jerseys. This special honor is bestowed to acknowledge an individual who has won an established national award in their sport, while allowing the number to continue to be worn by others. Tech will no longer retire numbers.
In 2002, three football jerseys were retired in ceremonies at Lane Stadium/Worsham Field. The fourth was retired in 2006. The jersey of Michael Vick was retired Sept. 1 prior to the LSU game, Frank Beamer's jersey was retired Sept. 12, prior to the Marshall game, and Cornell Brown's was retired on Nov. 20, during the West Virginia game. Jake Grove had his jersey retired on Sept. 23, prior to a game against Cincinnati.
Frank Beamer
Winner of eight national coach of the year awards following the 1999 season
Michael Vick
Winner of the 2000 ESPY as College Football's Performer of the Year
Cornell Brown
Named the Football News 1995 National Defensive Player of the Year
Jake Grove
Awarded the Rimington Award, given to the nation's top collegiate center, following the 2003 season.
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Jimmy Graham was never fully utilized at Miami, imo. And it seems his skills translates to the NFL pretty well. My fear is that is Bucky's future. I hope I'm wrong.
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Agreed, but Graham played basketball forever and was a real late comer to football, if I recall correctly. Bucky's been doing Bucky things on the football field for quite a while now.
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I'd be interested in seeing the policy amended to account for NFL performance too. If Kam plays for 7-8 more seasons and is a multiple Pro Bowler, maybe wins a couple more rings... It would make sense to me to honor him, even if his play while at Tech wasn't national award worthy.
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This is the level at which you need to achieve to get the honor
*in 2002 the University amended the policy to where only jerseys are retired, allowing numbers to continue being used going forward, but grandfathered all retired numbers to keep them out of circulation* 10 - Frank Loria 1965 All-American, 1967 Consensus All-American, killed in 1970 at age 23 in the Marshall air disaster, elected to College Football Hall of Fame in 1999 73 - Jim Pyne - 1993 Unanimous All-American, 1993 Lombardi and Outland Trophy Finalist 78 - Bruce Smith - 1983 coache's first team All-American, 1984 Consensus All-American, 1984 Outland Trophy winner as America's top Lineman, 1985 #1 pick in NFL Draft, finished career as NFL's all-time sack leader. 84 - Carroll Dale - Virginia Tech's 1st ever All-American in 1958, 1958 Jacobs Blocking Trophy winner, 1958 & 1959 2nd Team All-American, 3x NFL Championship winner, elected to College Football Hall of Fame in 1987. Michael Vick - 1999 ESPY for top collegiate player, 1999 Heisman Finalist, 1999 Archie Griffin Award as Nation's top player, #1 pick in the 2001 NFL Draft. Frank Beamer - 1995, 1996, 1999 Big East Coach of the Year, 2004, 2005 ACC Coach of the Year, 1997 induction into Virginia Sports Hall of Fame, 1999 AFCA Coach of the Year, 1999 Associated Press Coach of the Year, 1999 Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year, 1999 Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year, 1999 George Munger Award, 1999 Paul "Bear" Bryant Award, 1999 Walter Camp Coach of the Year, 2010 Joseph V. Paterno Coach of the Year Cornell Brown - 1995 Virginia Tech's first ever Consensus All-American as a Junior (named to 5 First teams), 1995 Football News' Defensive Player of the Year, 1996 1st team Walter Camp All American, 2nd Team AP All American. Won Super Bowl XXXV with the Baltimore Ravens. Inducted to Virginia Sports Hall of Fame in 2013. Jake Grove - 2003 Unanimous first team All-American, 2003 Rimington Trophy as Nation's top Center. Corey Moore - 1999 Bronko Nagurski Award as college football's defensive player of the year, 1999 Lombardi Trophy as top Defensive Line player, Unanimous All-American
It is really, really hard to get your number retired at Tech. The list of accomplishments these guys have are impressive, and while we've had some really good players come through, I'm not sure anyone is really deserving of the retired jersey honor. Of anyone I can think, because of his accomplishments in the NFL, I would think Kam Chancellor has the best chance.
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It is really, really hard to get your number retired at Tech. The list of accomplishments these guys have are impressive, and while we've had some really good players come through, I'm not sure anyone is really deserving of the retired jersey honor....
I would agree with that. Tyrod, Logan, RMFW, DW4, Eddie Royal, Flowers, Kam's time at VT. They were all great players and put up great numbers but I couldn't see putting any or all of them in the categories of those stated above.
I think our best chances of seeing a national award winner outside of making the all american team is Bucky getting the John Mackey or Kendall getting the Thorpe award.
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It is really, really hard to get your number retired at Tech. The list of accomplishments these guys have are impressive, and while we've had some really good players come through, I'm not sure anyone is really deserving of the retired jersey honor....
Compare our policy to Ohio State - you have to win the Heisman.
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Would being an All-American count as a national award to make one eligible? Not saying we should retire every all American but it would open the conversation on some.
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Kevin Jones is the only one on that list who has a shot. I don't think anyone else over the past decade has a chance other than maybe Tyrod, and even that's a long shot. Like Alum07 said, getting your jersey retired at VT is no small thing.
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In all honesty, Jimmy Williams jersey should be the next one retired. The guy was a UNANIMOUS All-American in 2005. To put that in perspective, VT has only had four Unanimous All-Americans in its history: Jim Pyne, Corey Moore, Jake Grove and Jimmy Williams. Williams is the only one who doesnt have his jersey hanging in the North Endzone.
Given the new rules, it is extremely difficult for a player to have his jersey retired. One must now win an established National Award. Since the new policy was enforced in 2002, only Jake Grove has won a national award (2003 Remington Trophy). If we had had these rules back in the day, we would have a lot less retired jerseys/numbers. Frank Loria, Carroll Dale and Jim Pyne never won any National Awards. It is interesting to think that if these players were around today, they probably wouldnt have had their jerseys retired.
I have a lot of friends at NC State, so I attended their Spring Game last year. Everyone was ecstatic that Russell Wilson, fresh off his Super Bowl Championship, would be there to have his #16 jersey retired. Wilsons #16 was the tenth jersey retired by the Wolfpack, and his name was prominently displayed alongside former #1 NFL draft pick, Mario Williams. I quickly found the retired numbers of former NC State stars Philip Rivers and Torry Holt. All four of these football players clearly deserve to have their careers immortalized at their University (or in Russell Wilsons case, his first University). But heres something interesting; if these four football players had attended Virginia Tech instead of NC State, their jerseys might not have been retired. Russell Wilson never won a National Award; he didnt even win ACC Player of the Year (what up, Tyrod?). Mario Williams, Philip Rivers and Torry Holt didnt win any National Awards, either.
I think our established national award requirement needs to be removed so we can retire anyones jersey. I mean, were #DBU! And weve only got one DBs jersey hanging in the North Endzone (two if you count Frank Beamer, but I think his jersey was retired as a result of his coaching accomplishments). How impressive would it be to see the jerseys of Kam Chancellor, Brandon Flowers, Jimmy Williams, DeAngelo Hall and Kyle Fuller hanging next to each other? Ooooh, shivers
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And it should be placed right next to the scoreboard where the opposing teams offensive yardage is display on hokievision. so when you see those low numbers...you know exactly why
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Lee Suggs. Dude was unstoppable before and after his hurt knee. Also holds the NCAA record for most consecutive games with a rushing touchdown, I believe.
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In regards to my new career as head ref for #OSUvsORE - Hey, I don't have a series any more - I had to do something. #OSUvsORE
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I understand the policy, but I would truly love to see Tyrod's jersey retired. I can't quite put my finger on it but man, I've never loved a player that much.
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It's a shame we can't do something to commemorate Bud after winning the Broyles. They retired Beamer's jersey for winning a coaching award, but Foster didn't even play here. It would feel really manufactured if they retired a Murray State jersey.
Maybe a statue?
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How about, when Lane Stadium becomes too old and has to be renovated or replaced, we build a new stadium in the shape of a giant lunch pail. The top of the lunch pail would open like a real lunch pail, giving us a retractable roof. On top would be an enormous Orange "VT" that would be visible from space.
Above the entrance it will say "Welcome to the Terror Dome".
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By VT policy, a person has to win a national award to have their jersey retired. Has anyone won one recently?
Kam Chancellor won the Super Bowl, so that has to count for something, no?
I'd be 100% okay with amending the policy. Tyrod won ACC POY, so I'd like to see his retired, and would be absolutely onboard with Bam Bam Kam receiving the honor, too. But as the rule stands, I don't think there is anyone eligible who hasn't had their jersey retired.
Agreed T-Mobile! One of THE GREATS. ON and OFF the field-
And- ALWAYS seems to be supporting the program by wearing his Hokie Colors!
Yeah, to be honest, I don't think anyone has been worthy of that recognition, including Tyrod
Well first off, who all (besides Bruce Smith, Vick and Beamer) have had their numbers retired?
Carrol Dale 84 and Jim Pyne 73, and Strock 10. I think thats it. Vick doesn't. He just has his jersey retired.
Frank Loria also
Ahhhh yes, I knew there was one more.
Wait, I was wrong about Strock, Loria was #10.
Corey Moore.
Won the Nagurski and Lombardi. Was an unanimous All-American.
also murder eyes
Also Terrordome
Retired jerseys (still can use numbers)
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Retired Jerseys
In 2002, the Virginia Tech athletics department developed a new policy on retiring jerseys. This special honor is bestowed to acknowledge an individual who has won an established national award in their sport, while allowing the number to continue to be worn by others. Tech will no longer retire numbers.
In 2002, three football jerseys were retired in ceremonies at Lane Stadium/Worsham Field. The fourth was retired in 2006. The jersey of Michael Vick was retired Sept. 1 prior to the LSU game, Frank Beamer's jersey was retired Sept. 12, prior to the Marshall game, and Cornell Brown's was retired on Nov. 20, during the West Virginia game. Jake Grove had his jersey retired on Sept. 23, prior to a game against Cincinnati.
Frank Beamer
Winner of eight national coach of the year awards following the 1999 season
Michael Vick
Winner of the 2000 ESPY as College Football's Performer of the Year
Cornell Brown
Named the Football News 1995 National Defensive Player of the Year
Jake Grove
Awarded the Rimington Award, given to the nation's top collegiate center, following the 2003 season.
Isn't Grove and Moore up there too?
Jersey or number?
what do you classify as worthy? 67 total touchdowns, ACC Player of the Year, ACCCG player of the game 2 times
Kendall Fuller will be next.
Bucky Gods Gift Shmurda
If we can feed him the ball more.
Jimmy Graham was never fully utilized at Miami, imo. And it seems his skills translates to the NFL pretty well. My fear is that is Bucky's future. I hope I'm wrong.
Agreed, but Graham played basketball forever and was a real late comer to football, if I recall correctly. Bucky's been doing Bucky things on the football field for quite a while now.
I'd be interested in seeing the policy amended to account for NFL performance too. If Kam plays for 7-8 more seasons and is a multiple Pro Bowler, maybe wins a couple more rings... It would make sense to me to honor him, even if his play while at Tech wasn't national award worthy.
I'd have to disagree here, what he or any other VT player does in the NFL (despite how incredible it is) is completely separate to what he did here.
This is the level at which you need to achieve to get the honor
*in 2002 the University amended the policy to where only jerseys are retired, allowing numbers to continue being used going forward, but grandfathered all retired numbers to keep them out of circulation*
10 - Frank Loria 1965 All-American, 1967 Consensus All-American, killed in 1970 at age 23 in the Marshall air disaster, elected to College Football Hall of Fame in 1999
73 - Jim Pyne - 1993 Unanimous All-American, 1993 Lombardi and Outland Trophy Finalist
78 - Bruce Smith - 1983 coache's first team All-American, 1984 Consensus All-American, 1984 Outland Trophy winner as America's top Lineman, 1985 #1 pick in NFL Draft, finished career as NFL's all-time sack leader.
84 - Carroll Dale - Virginia Tech's 1st ever All-American in 1958, 1958 Jacobs Blocking Trophy winner, 1958 & 1959 2nd Team All-American, 3x NFL Championship winner, elected to College Football Hall of Fame in 1987.
Michael Vick - 1999 ESPY for top collegiate player, 1999 Heisman Finalist, 1999 Archie Griffin Award as Nation's top player, #1 pick in the 2001 NFL Draft.
Frank Beamer - 1995, 1996, 1999 Big East Coach of the Year, 2004, 2005 ACC Coach of the Year, 1997 induction into Virginia Sports Hall of Fame, 1999 AFCA Coach of the Year, 1999 Associated Press Coach of the Year, 1999 Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year, 1999 Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year, 1999 George Munger Award, 1999 Paul "Bear" Bryant Award, 1999 Walter Camp Coach of the Year, 2010 Joseph V. Paterno Coach of the Year
Cornell Brown - 1995 Virginia Tech's first ever Consensus All-American as a Junior (named to 5 First teams), 1995 Football News' Defensive Player of the Year, 1996 1st team Walter Camp All American, 2nd Team AP All American. Won Super Bowl XXXV with the Baltimore Ravens. Inducted to Virginia Sports Hall of Fame in 2013.
Jake Grove - 2003 Unanimous first team All-American, 2003 Rimington Trophy as Nation's top Center.
Corey Moore - 1999 Bronko Nagurski Award as college football's defensive player of the year, 1999 Lombardi Trophy as top Defensive Line player, Unanimous All-American
It is really, really hard to get your number retired at Tech. The list of accomplishments these guys have are impressive, and while we've had some really good players come through, I'm not sure anyone is really deserving of the retired jersey honor. Of anyone I can think, because of his accomplishments in the NFL, I would think Kam Chancellor has the best chance.
I would agree with that. Tyrod, Logan, RMFW, DW4, Eddie Royal, Flowers, Kam's time at VT. They were all great players and put up great numbers but I couldn't see putting any or all of them in the categories of those stated above.
I think our best chances of seeing a national award winner outside of making the all american team is Bucky getting the John Mackey or Kendall getting the Thorpe award.
It is really, really hard to get your number retired at Tech. The list of accomplishments these guys have are impressive, and while we've had some really good players come through, I'm not sure anyone is really deserving of the retired jersey honor....
Compare our policy to Ohio State - you have to win the Heisman.
Well, sucks for anyone who plays on defense then.
Would being an All-American count as a national award to make one eligible? Not saying we should retire every all American but it would open the conversation on some.
Babcock!
Kevin Jones is the only one on that list who has a shot. I don't think anyone else over the past decade has a chance other than maybe Tyrod, and even that's a long shot. Like Alum07 said, getting your jersey retired at VT is no small thing.
Tyrod
I think T-Mobile.
Kam's Seahawk jersey.
In all honesty, Jimmy Williams jersey should be the next one retired. The guy was a UNANIMOUS All-American in 2005. To put that in perspective, VT has only had four Unanimous All-Americans in its history: Jim Pyne, Corey Moore, Jake Grove and Jimmy Williams. Williams is the only one who doesnt have his jersey hanging in the North Endzone.
Given the new rules, it is extremely difficult for a player to have his jersey retired. One must now win an established National Award. Since the new policy was enforced in 2002, only Jake Grove has won a national award (2003 Remington Trophy). If we had had these rules back in the day, we would have a lot less retired jerseys/numbers. Frank Loria, Carroll Dale and Jim Pyne never won any National Awards. It is interesting to think that if these players were around today, they probably wouldnt have had their jerseys retired.
I have a lot of friends at NC State, so I attended their Spring Game last year. Everyone was ecstatic that Russell Wilson, fresh off his Super Bowl Championship, would be there to have his #16 jersey retired. Wilsons #16 was the tenth jersey retired by the Wolfpack, and his name was prominently displayed alongside former #1 NFL draft pick, Mario Williams. I quickly found the retired numbers of former NC State stars Philip Rivers and Torry Holt. All four of these football players clearly deserve to have their careers immortalized at their University (or in Russell Wilsons case, his first University). But heres something interesting; if these four football players had attended Virginia Tech instead of NC State, their jerseys might not have been retired. Russell Wilson never won a National Award; he didnt even win ACC Player of the Year (what up, Tyrod?). Mario Williams, Philip Rivers and Torry Holt didnt win any National Awards, either.
I think our established national award requirement needs to be removed so we can retire anyones jersey. I mean, were #DBU! And weve only got one DBs jersey hanging in the North Endzone (two if you count Frank Beamer, but I think his jersey was retired as a result of his coaching accomplishments). How impressive would it be to see the jerseys of Kam Chancellor, Brandon Flowers, Jimmy Williams, DeAngelo Hall and Kyle Fuller hanging next to each other? Ooooh, shivers
Bud Foster
And the banner would just have a silhouette of his goatee.
The banner would be a clipboard, naturally broken in half
And if you stare at it, it will take your soul.
And it should be placed right next to the scoreboard where the opposing teams offensive yardage is display on hokievision. so when you see those low numbers...you know exactly why
guys, Guntar had this covered a couple years back
hmm, guess we'd have to replace grimes with a giant automated searels throwing his hat.
Torrian Gray should have his Jersey retired for coaching #DBU.
Lee Suggs. Dude was unstoppable before and after his hurt knee. Also holds the NCAA record for most consecutive games with a rushing touchdown, I believe.
Clearly, Nina Dorsey-Fuller,
aka 'Mama Fuller.'
Definitely!
I understand the policy, but I would truly love to see Tyrod's jersey retired. I can't quite put my finger on it but man, I've never loved a player that much.
Vick?
Perhaps Danny Coale for his Sugar Bowl winning catch?
It's a shame we can't do something to commemorate Bud after winning the Broyles. They retired Beamer's jersey for winning a coaching award, but Foster didn't even play here. It would feel really manufactured if they retired a Murray State jersey.
Maybe a statue?
A statue of a huge bronzed beaten up lunch pail seems like an entirely appropriate homage to Bud, as well as reflective of the overall Hokie spirit.
The players could rub it on their way into Lane during the Walk, a la Howard's Rock.
Someone get Whit on the phone.
Yeah but where would you put it?
I would think the ideal spot would be right outside the tunnel entrance into Lane, but we already have the 'Reach for Excellence' stone.
Put it in the middle of the opponent's sideline so that they keep running into it as a reminder of what's about to happen.
Something kind of like this:
I understand that this guy is probably hammered drunk...but WTF is he trying to do?
I think he's trying to win a footrace with the other dude. Either that or he really wanted a rail.
There's only one explanation...Da Bears.
That pole is actually a pretty good representation of what Cutler does to the Bears' offense.
I'm thinking right out front of the stadium by the main entrance on Spring Road. Is that the entrance players and coaches use during the Walk?
How about, when Lane Stadium becomes too old and has to be renovated or replaced, we build a new stadium in the shape of a giant lunch pail. The top of the lunch pail would open like a real lunch pail, giving us a retractable roof. On top would be an enormous Orange "VT" that would be visible from space.
Above the entrance it will say "Welcome to the Terror Dome".
I love this idea.
OH. MY. GOD.
Someone call Whit.