Former top Hokie target Jacob Park is transferring out of Georgia, per Fox Sports. http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/report-qb-jacob-park-int...
Park was a four star quarterback recruit from the Charlotte area, and he was Scot Loeffler's number one quarterback target before Park committed to Georgia. After Park committees, Loeffler received a commitment from Pennsylvania quarterback Andrew Ford and later Chris Durkin. It was recently reported that Ford was leaving the Hokie program.
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Interesting, a lot of dawg fans on reddit suspected a transfer was coming after taking in Lambert.
I believe Park had already lost the battle with Bauta and Ramsey. I don't expect Lambert to start, but he's in the mix.
Talking to dawgs fans a couple weeks ago, they've known about this for a while and his transferring was the reason they were going after Lambert. Still surprising seeing a highly touted recruit replaced with someone that couldn't win the job at loluva
Its possible that LOLUVA's inability to develop talent is now common knowledge across the country.
It could also be a sign that Johns is pretty good.
I know most here believe that all of UVA's talent is awful, but that's the best set of QB's they have had in a decade. Both Lambert and Johns would arguably start at VT this year.
I'm somewhat curious to see your argument for this.
Leal would obviously beat both of them duhh
See my previous documentation that Michael Brewer just turned in one Grant Noel of a season.
Maybe he will be a lot better. But data says that as a starter, he's Grant Noel. But shorter.
It's not apples-to-apples but Brewer put up slightly better numbers than the Johns/Lambert QB Hydra.
Brewer: 59.4% completion, 6.1 YPA, 18 TD, 15 INT, 29.4 passes per INT
JohnBert: 57.4% completion, 6.5 YPA, 18 TD, 16 INT, 26.4 passes per INT
They might very well be sub-Noel as QBs. It's hard to say.
I'll take Johns mobility over Brewer's. Brewer is pretty quick, but he's about 5'10", 175.
So you'd take Johns' size over Brewer, not his mobility.
No, I'd take Brewer's quickness. I would take Johns mobility.
I'm glad Brewer can move around, because he needs to find windows to throw, but you can't design a gameplan around him getting yards for you. He's just too small for that. You can design a gameplan around Matt Johns getting yards for you. He's a big kid with surprising wheels. He almost won the game against us with a long scramble. Reminds of that tall kid who played QB at Arkansas a few years ago and ended up a WR in JAX. Matt something.
Matt Jones.
As for Johns, I was very impressed with him early in the season last year. I could see him competing for our QB job, and if he had been here last year, I debate whether Brewer would be our starter. That Johns kid is no joke. Well, I mean, he goes to LOLUVA. Less of a joke. More of a funny anecdote. But still good, and, yes, I think he'll do very well when he transfers to another school.
I would take Logan Thomas size, and Braxton Millers speed over Brewer any day.....oh yeah, and Peyton Manning's brain.
And I'll take Brewer's toughness over any of em.
Glad you said that, because if you hadn't, I was going to.
"I promise you I will keep getting back up as long as you keep pushing forward." -Michael Brewer
So... what about the other side of that argument? As in your statement that Lambert/Johns could be better.
Let's see:
Brewer: 59.4%, 2692 yards, 18 TD, 15 INT
Lambert: 59%, 1632 yards, 10 TD, 11 INT
Johns: 54.9%, 1109 yards, 8 TD, 5 INT
At best Matt Johns could be better than Brewer, or at least his TD/INT ratio was. But not significantly so. Add into the fact that either Johns or Lambert would be 1st year starters in the new system while Brewer is going into his second year, and I just don't see it.
So you just made an argument that "at best Matt Johns could be better than Brewer."
I said it was arguable. Check.
I did, except I actually put forth an argument, you just assumed I knew everything you've posted here. Wasn't trying to say you didn't have a point, just wanted to see what your point was.
Either way, I still wouldn't take someone who may potentially have slightly more talent (at least according to stats) in their first year over someone in their second, but that's not the point we're making here.
I'm not literally saying Johns should start over Michael Brewer. They don't go to the same school. Johns isn't transferring to VT, for a multitude of reasons.
I was comparing their talent levels. Is Johns as good or better than Brewer? Yes. For those who believe that Loeffler is back to a mobile QB offense, the case is even stronger that Johns would be a better fit for VT than Brewer.
This could be the best set of QBs they've had in a decade and they could still be awful. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Wow a LOLUVA QB transfers in and a highly touted recruit leaves. The world of college transfers especially of highly touted high school QB's is one of intrigue.
Everybody wants to be da man, but how many quarterbacks are there coming out of high school who are going to make it to the big league? Maybe if a player wants reps and to get noticed he could choose a lower level school with an NFL type offense and coaches who know what they're doing. I'm not really up on it, but there must be more than a few QB's in the NFL who didn't play at Bama, OSU, or Notre Dame and honed their skills and built confidence at smaller schools.
And that segues us into a plug for the Hokies who have one, two, three, four QB's currently in the NFL. One, of course, is a coach, and one is Michael Vick who may or may not be retiring after 12 years.
If you look at just starting QB's few come from "traditional" college football powerhouses. In fact several come from FCS teams.
Ahh that explains why Schaub started for so long
Bama and OSU both have difficulty putting qbs on the league actually. You could argue most starting qbs in the league are from decent, but not elite schools. If you made the claim Russell Wilson was from NCST instead of Wisc (spent less than a year at Wisc), then only schools with multiple starting qbs last year are NCST, TAMU, Purdue and USC. Bama, OSU, and Notre Dame have 0.
5-Star offensive line talent will mask mediocre QB talent urrrytime. Case in point - Matt Leinart
John David Booty circa 2006 comes to mind as well.
Basically any Bama QB ever.
I agree outside of Namath and Stabler (RIP)
Couldnt agree anymore. You can also throw in average RB's too. Most people cry so much for not landing highly rated QB's but it doesnt matter unless you recruit well on the o-line. Now of course, when you have an athlete of a Michael Vick and Tyrod, then you can easily get away with poor o-line recruiting like we have seen here in many years
aka Wisconsin for every year that ends with "A.D."
Maybe that isn't fair. Montee Ball has shown some worth in the league.
"Its much easier to let someone else recruit a 5-star qb and convert TEs to OL"
-Curt Newsome
It goes both ways. There was an article on ESPN a few weeks ago pointing out how little pressure Peyton Manning the last 5 years has faced despite offensive line injuries. Great QBs who can identify blitzes and get rid of the ball before the line breaks can make an offensive line look incredible. When you combine a mediocre line that struggles to pass block with a mediocre QB that struggles with handling pressure you get the Sean Glennon era.
nailed it. works both ways.
I dunno if I would use Peyton Manning as the example. That is almost the most polar opposite example. Great offensive lineman come way more often than brains of a Peyton Manning.
Yeah, but Peyton Manning is a great QB. He could play with a mediocre line, Hi sack total would be higher, but he would still put up numbers. And...Indy put together a pretty good line before Peyton got hurt. After his injury, and because of his injury, he shopped around and finally decided on Denver - because they had the best O-line talent of the teams on the market.
Found the article. http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/12973714/why-denver-br...
"As a rookie in Indianapolis, Manning took control of an offense that allowed 62 sacks in 1997. He was sacked only 22 times. The 40-sack decline is tied for the third-largest since 1970. That 1998 line featured three starters in their first or second seasons plus Tony Mandarich, one of the biggest draft busts ever, at right guard."
Indy's o-line after about 2007 was never that great- they fell apart in 2011 when Peyton was out, and even now under Luck they struggle to protect him because he isn't quite as good at Peyton at handling blitzes. The last two years Denver's had injury issues on their line and had to juggle players in and out of the lineup and none of it slowed down Peyton at all until he got hurt. Anyway, my point was that good QBs can cover up for problems with their offensive line just like linemen can bail out their QB- best example for that is 1991 Mark Rypien, who had the year of his life thanks to his line.
As will freakish wide receivers. Manziel had both.
On some of his Sportcenter scrambles, he literally wasn't even looking downfield. It was like a blindfolded Hail Mary.
I read that he's probably going tolhe Juco route
Meanwhile Dwayne Lawson is loving Blacksburg and the Hokies.
Blacksburg and the Hokies is loving Dwayne Lawson
.... or we hope we will soon :)
Of course Blacksburg loves him. Everyone loves the backup QB who hasn't had a chance to infuriate the fanbase.
As long as they are over 18, it is totally fine
I wonder what he is transferring for. I doubt he would transfer if it was looking like he was going to start but i don't know their QB battles this spring and what came of it. And was he transferring before or after lambert decided to go there? Interesting.
Wonder if he follows Bobo to CSU.
Useless comment of the day by me...He said "Bobo"
It shows how inexact the science of recruiting is. This guy was an Elite 11 guy that everyone wanted and couldn't crack their lineup it seems. Now he would have to sit a year wherever he transfers, and still no guarantees
According to the article he has graduated so he is eligible immediately.
Park graduated already? That's impressive.
It's UGA
Per Lewis Grizzard: "it's not true if you drive through Athens with your window down they throw a diploma in. You have to stop."
Hey, watch it!
I didn't see that anywhere in the article. Park is a R-FR this fall... which means he's been on campus for 1 year. (1.5 if he enrolled early). Nobody graduates in 1 year. He's going to sit a year wherever he transfers.
OTOH, Lambert is a rising R-SR or something like that and has graduated from UVA. So he's eligible to play this fall for Georgia.
Heard from #sources that if he doesn't go the JUCO route that VT may be his landing spot. Remember there was a time where he was supposedly a strong VT lean.
I dunno how he'd fit. I understand Lefty going for this kid hard when he got here just from a best available mindset, but Lefty has definitely trended toward mobile QBs and away from pocket passers. Not sure how Park would fit the system now.
If JJ verbals to us tomorrow, I'd bet Park goes elsewhere.
I read two interviews with Park from GA sports writers. I don't think Park fits into the VT culture. Just my opinion and like anything done in interviews he could be complelty different than he came across in the interviews.
Just to clarify, are you talking like Chad Kelly type personality issues? Like a problem for team morale?
Maybe more maturaty and self evaluation, plus and this is just a pet peeve of mine he kept calling the adult reporters "bro" when talking to them.
Park was always the most mobile of the guys we recruited that year.
Yeah, but Lawson and Jackson both have better tape, IMO. If Lefty's going for a mobile QB with a pass first mentality, just based on HUDL, Park would be low man on the totem pole. Lawson has a stronger arm, Jackson looks more accurate throwing on the run.
He doesn't need to beat out Lawson or Jackson. He needs to give them competition and redundancy.
But do you really think we could get him to transfer here using that sales pitch?
"Come to Blacksburg, son. We think the QB competition would make the guy we're gonna start over you so much better."
I think he'd know what he would be walking into.
I certainly hope so.
I don't assume anything about Lawson. I see that many on here disagree.
I was just going on your assertion that Park just needed to provide competition and redundancy. We'd never sell him with that mindset.
I'll say this. Just based on film, with a QB roster of Lawson, Jackson and Park, my money is on either Lawson or Jackson to start.
Like with most recruits, I don't give a shit what you tell them. Tell them they are the starters. Tell him he will start at QB and FS. Tell him he can punt. Who cares, he is effectively a recruit. Recruits shouldn't assume anyone is telling them the truth. The truth is you get a uniform, an education and a chance. The rest is up to you.
How many years do you think a coach can get by promising guys that they're starters before word gets out that the promises are bunk?
Looking at the SEC: infinite.
That's only a bit of a joke. I wasn't saying that you literally need to tell the kid he's the starter, no more than IllinoisHokie is actually saying you tell Jacob Park that he will be third string if he comes here. Nobody tells kids that, one way or another. You tell Jacob Park the truth. Come to VT because we wanted you two years ago. Our QB is graduating this year. We have some guys with question marks for next year:
Motley hasn't proven he can pass effectively. Solid runner, good athlete. Not shown that he is any more than a backup.
Durkin is a truck, but he threw like 125 passes, total, in his HS career. He is a very limited passer. He's a project.
Lawson is a tremendous athlete, but he's lanky with a long passing motion. He has a chance to be great, but it could take some time. He could be Aaron Brooks of 1997 a long time before he becomes the Aaron Brooks of the Saints. He could be Ike Whittaker.
We are recruiting some other kids who haven't signed nor matriculated at VT yet, so I wouldn't worry too much about that.
That's not a hard sell. Come to VT, there is opportunity.
So far 5 years...and hoping for a 6th
Judging by his recruiting lately I think recruits caught on.
There's a difference between starting and winning.
I think something along the lines of:
"Jacob, come to VT. We have an open spot on the end of the bench that is getting cold. Plus we could use some warm bodies for practice. Dadi Nicholas needs some tackling dummies also. So, what do you say?"
the analysts that are paid to review the tape thought park was a top 100 recruit nationally across pretty much all of the services. Neither Lawson/Jackson were rated that highly anywhere. I thought park was a bit overrated myself and believe he bombed at the shrine bowl, but he was considered elite coming out of HS. Not sure what happened when he got to UGA.
He dazzled when allowed to play outside UGA's playbook, think Tyrod scramble and throw or tuck and run but struggled with pocket pro style.
Which tells me he's struggling with the complexity of the college game. And Lefty runs a pretty complex scheme.
If it's such a complex offense, shouldn't that shut down any and all talk about Lawson starting this year?
In my mind it does.
Nothing but redshirt here. Makes no sense to do otherwise. The shear increase in the speed of the game alone prohibits playing. Remember they almost pulled it off of MV. Not that it really mattered in the end.
No amount of logic and reason will shut down that type of talk.
And of Jackson playing in 2016. Honestly the Ford transfer hurts bad. Motley is gonna have to be solid, otherwise our 2016 depth at qb will be razor thin.
The only way Lawson plays, let alone starts, is if Brewer gets hurt against UVA, Motley gets hurt in the ACCCG, Durkin gets hurt in the playoff game, and Click gets hurt in the NCG with too much time remaining to direct snap it to Rogers for the rest of the game.
That's why many think Lawson starting is a non-starter...
I believe we're going to see a somewhat condensed playbook from Loeffler this year. Can't remember the exact quote, but around spring practices, Brewer stated that they have identifed what they do best and what they are weakest at as an offense, so instead of doing a ton of things just ok, they are going to do what they do best at at a high level. I personally think we had so many different looks, personnel groupings, and shifts last year that it might have even confused the young players to an extent. Although, I think some of that may have been necessary to give us a chance on offense while the younger players and Brewer became acclimated.
From what I've heard, Lawson is coming from a pretty intricate pro-style passing scheme under Warner. Add in the fact that Warner is with us now too, and I definitely wouldn't summarily dismiss the notion of Lawson seeing the field this year. Unlikely right now? Probably, but not out of the question.
We did bring in Lawson's HS coach and it's been said that the offenses are "similar." Not sure what that means except that there might be couple dozen plays (or more) that he could run.
I believe that Lawson has been on campus for at least a week, right? So who knows.
I'm betting he will play some just based on what some of the coaches have been saying.
There is a strong sense of urgency to win RIGHT NOW.
Has he been moved to TE yet?
...ducks...
Why would you believe anything a coach says publicly?
Park Ford and Lambert are playing QB duck duck goose with no involvement from anymore from turkeys.
I miss Bad Metaphor Guy.
This is not too surprising, loluva has always had lots of talent as evidenced by their success in the draft, they just lack quality coach...TIMEOUT...ing too do anything with that talent.
What are you talking about. They've got the best coach they've ever had for their program. He truly cares and caters to the alumni.
I never noticed until now the guy next tot him is drinking from a VT cup.
Looks like the guy in the extreme foreground left is wearing a VT jersey. This might be from Lane Stadium. Guessing by the cup, it is.
See I always thought this picture was from Lane North. This is officially the most UVA picture ever.
1) buy tickets to see LOLUVA AT Lane 2) drive to game 3) read a book you just happened to have at what point did he fail to stop and ask WHY?
Something tells me that guy is not there by choice. He obviously has some connection to UVA, hence the gear, but he is not there by his own will. He got dragged there.
Edit: And he's even more pissed because it's late November and it's colder than dammit.
Something tells me it was probably pretty close to 38-0 at that point. Or maybe it was 7-0 and that was good enough for him.
38-0 was at Lane North (which makes it better).
You are correct, but how do we know for sure that this picture was not taken in our North-most stadium? I'm mildly 100% certain that they serve drinks in the visiting team's cups in order to increase revenue.
There's that and the fact that there are more than a couple of people in the stands.
isn't that their AD?
Honestly I hope Lefty goes after him hard. At this point it looks like Lawson will go into the 2016 qb battle virtually unopposed (albeit with a solid backup in Motley). If it turns out that Lawson isn't ready to play this year (and that's a likely scenario considering his current size, mechanics, and the fact that he's really been a qb "project" from the beginning) then I'm won't be confident for 2016. The playmakers will be there, but if we force a qb to play that isn't ready to start then the 2016 season definitely won't live up to expectations. I fully expect Durkin to move to H-back, and combined with the Ford transfer that leaves Lawson, Motley, and a true freshman as the only scholarship qb's next season. Motley can be a solid backup, but he can't pass. Park would be able to come in and compete and that's what we need next year. I'm still kinda pissed about the Ford transfer.
Thou shalt not sleep on Joshua Jackson.
We haven't seen enough to make that call yet IMO. Last year was a tough call for him because he obviously was not getting the reps in practice. This spring he missed a few throws but made some too. I think by the time 2016 rolls around (if not 2015) he will be a pretty good QB.
Which is fine. But can Jacob Park (Parks?) be better? That's the question.
2011. Boatload of playmakers with a TE that arguably wasn't ready to start at QB. Still, I would take a repeat of that season in a heartbeat. Would have been a perfect season if Clemson didn't exploit our weaknesses so easily.
I seriously doubt he comes to VT because I seriously doubt Loeffler even bothers.
I tend to agree with this. One might imagine there's some level of apathy knowing we were not his top choice after considering us the first time around. But I can also see the other side if in his mind it was very close and he chose GA for some arbitrary reason, like, sundresses on game days /sar. At the end of the day, I'd welcome every 4 star qb to ramp up the competition for the future.
there is no reason to make that sarcastic. That is a very legit reason...IMHO.....
Trying to give the player the benefit of the doubt, but, to each his own.
WAS a 4 star. I'll bet if he was being re-graded, he wouldn't be a 4* now...which is what matters.
It's a bit like trading for a former 1st round draft pick. You give up what they're worth now, not what it was thought they were worth then.
I'd rather get JJ and/or another QB the year after rather than a transfer. I don't want to scare Lawson off - though maybe he's not the type to shy away from competition.
He did decommit from Miami because of kayaa...
Yes, but that's a guy whose had the job for a year, and who has been successful at it. In other words, someone who is likely to keep the job for the foreseeable future unless he gets injured.
Lawson seems to have scared Ford off, which tells you how it looks from the inside.
I think what scared off Ford was Lawson's potential in the long run. It seemed to me that Ford would likely split Lawson in 2016 despite the hype (just because of his experience with the system). However I think after Lawson learns the system AND develops accuracy it will be his job. The question now is if Park is willing to take the chance of getting beat out by a younger qb, and thereby likely have to sit the bench for the rest of his college career.
And if Park has to sit for a year? He's spotting his competition a year's worth of snaps. I don't see that going well. Honestly, I am amazed whenever anyone transfers and has to sit out a year. So much can change in a year that you'd think someone would only do it if the school had an entrenched starting QB with only one season left and no clear successor to follow... Ok that kind of describes us, I guess.
Didn't someone on here say he'd already graduated? He'd compete immediately if true.
if he has graduated as a redshirt freshman, then he must have been taking a lot of distance learning courses from UNC.
I've been waiting on this for a while. Jacob Park would be good competition for Lawson.
Dwayne Lawson is the second coming of Michael Vick
Dwayne Lawson is life
There are no other quarterbacks, only Dwayne
Well, we gotta put up with Brewer for a season I would imagine. Don't think Lawson is gonna play this year.
Brewer? Who's Brewer?
Brewer? Who's Brewer? Only the last quarterback on the planet earth to beat Ohio State University, that's who.
Oh, you mean the QB that popped his shoulder back in on the sideline and told our o-line "I'll keep getting up if you just push forward?" That Brewer? Yeah, ok, that Brewer
That was the night we learned that the Earth does not revolve around the sun, but that the universe in fact revolves around Brewer's Andromeda-sized titanium balls.
I believe Brewer's balls are actually used commercially to cut titanium.
How can he walk with balls that big???
http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/jacob-parks-father-knows-nothing-...
Few quick hits from the story.
twitter hack?
My guess is not supposed to be public yet.
It's like a football soap opera.
http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/uga-coaches-trying-to-hold-onto-j...
http://m.ajc.com/news/sports/college/its-official-qb-jacob-park-has-left...
It's official, UGA has announced he is leaving.
Keep Park at Juco. We don't need him unless he comes with 2 big mean guards and 2 defensive end crushing tackles.
Maybe a solid DE as well. Wouldn't say no to a big receiving threat either.
I'm wit hop bro! :)
I'm gonna go right ahead and say you should probably hold off on posting from our phone or whatever other device you're currently using. This seems to have gone wrong for you on more than one occasion.
Why yes, we'll accept the entire Georgia Bulldogs roster in transfer.
OT but Da'Shawn Hand was at VT yesterday for the camp hanging with Teller. No, he isn't transferring from Bama but I can't help but think how uncomfortable he felt just walking past Bud.
generally speaking for college football does that kind of thing happen often? I thought you had to be invited or at least "allowed" to go to the camp.
Why was he here?
What camp? edit: ok it was a recruiting camp... why is Hand at a recruiting camp? This is strange
I don't know much about camps, but what if Hand was just visiting? In May 2014, I saw Jonathan Allen at D2 during breakfast. I know it was him because it looked like him and he was a big guy wearing an Alabama Football Nike shirt.
Rumor has it that Park is visiting Bama.
Just stumbled on this, but it looks like he's going JUCO
Good, I hope we stay on him. Should be eligible next year. We can't put all our eggs in the Lawson basket.
Why should VT stay on him? Just because he was once overrated as a high school prospect?
Yes?
No. Because you can never have too many QBs on hand
Isn't that why he is leaving UGA? Too many qb's?
Yes you can. There are a finite number of scholarships; one too many QBs means one fewer OL (or some other position of true need).
Because we don't want our worst-case scenario to be the Sun Bowl again.
And this kid ensures it won't be the same?
I'd personally rather take my chances with someone who at least hasn't yet been exposed as overrated.
Overrated sure beats an empty roster spot. We've got a whole lot of eggs in the Lawson/Durkin/Jackson basket currently. I personally wouldn't mind having one more guy who's at least taken snaps in a college practice before.
Because we know for certain that VT isn't targeting any other QB(s) for the 2017 class?
This guy is old news and most of the recent news isn't headline worthy. I'd be shocked if VT was making any play for him. And frankly, even if it were, I'd be even more surprised if he was interested in jumping from the UGa kettle to the VT fire.
Add this to Braxton Miller, Chad Kelly, etc. transferring to VT file...
Because college playing experience (even JUCO) > high school playing experience. What if someone gets seriously hurt or transfers? Do we really want to wait until the 2017 season to hopefully bring in another true freshman quarterback and throw him to the wolves? I'm not saying we should sign him no matter what, but there's no harm in keeping an eye on him and seeing how his JUCO season goes.
To answer your question...yes, with what VT currently has and will have for the next 2-3 seasons, it would be far wiser to utilize that scholarship on developing a QB for 2018 and beyond.
If VT signed every potential transfer that folks here say it should sign, they would have like 105 players on scholarship.
So what about the 2016 or 2017 seasons? Sh*t happens in college football, and hoping it won't for another 2 years is begging for trouble.
I would expect it to be only for the fall semester, keep an eye on this one for being a possible January enrollee for the good guys.
Why do you think he wants to come here when he couldn't learn or play well in the UGA system?
Not all kids are a fit when they arrive on campus, we have also had our share of transfers. And as far as not learning or playing well, until I could get first hand account from someone at UGA or Park himself, I'm not ready to say he couldn't handle it.
This was his second summer, he dazzled when able to play unscripted but was a distant third on the depth chart at UGA, what other reason would there be?
VT actually hasn't had that many transfers. Name the transfers in the last 15 yrs that have been starters.
And only one QB of note that I can recall.
That QB transfer was 1) in a much more challenging QB depth situation than exists for 2016 and beyond and 2) with a kid who had already graduated (and thus was an instant transfer) and was anticipated to be the starter at his previous school if not for the injury.
Wade Hansen is slotted to be the starter this year. Obviously that situation is a bit different given he transferred in as a D-Lineman not sure if the transfer was given knowing he would be switching to the O-Line.
Brent Benedict would be another
*Edited to add Brent.
So that's two (if you consider Benedict a starter) plus Michael Brewer makes three...in what 15+ years?
And Hansen wasn't exactly a high profile transfer from a power 5 program that everybody (or anybody, for that matter) was ga-ga about. He was a walk-on with no scholarship offer who could use the sit-out yr as a redshirt yr, so there was virtually zero risk from VT's standpoint.
I definitely agree with you. Wasnt trying to debate you merely provide an answer to your question. I believe Benedict started a handful of games although I am not sure in what capacity. I agree, you dont see a multitude of transfers coming through and making an impact but I would venture to say that statement can be made for a lot of teams. As for your statement about 3 in 15 years I wouldnt be able to answer that without doing the proper research. Those I mentioned were just those I could remember off the top of my head. I am sure there were more that I am forgetting which gives credence to your point of being true "impact" players.
Fair enough. My real point was that transfers into VT are not at all common at VT -- and probably many other schools. And I'm going to guess that the vast majority of undergrad kids who are transferring are doing it not because they're looking for a different major; they're doing it because they're not getting and probably aren't going to get the playing they want or think they should.
Like real life, occasionally coaches make mistakes -- and occasionally internal politics can screw a player over -- but most of the time these are kids aren't getting the playing time because they simply aren't as good as the player(s) in front of them. And most programs know that there's little reason to expect that a "lateral" transfer is going to change that calculus unless there are unusual circumstances (see VT QB '14/'15).
VT is nowhere near dire circumstances at QB for 2016-2018, so I see little reason for the VT coaches to deviate from a normal recruiting strategy focusing on 2018 and beyond -- and I honestly see little reason for this kid to look at VT.
I agree with you. Also given the QB struggles at UGA I am not sure if he would be much of an upgrade if DL is as advertised. With that said, I remember how excited I was when Ike Whitaker was to come in and be the next great thing. You never know with any of these kids. If the coaching staff feels Parks can contribute I support their decision. If they truly extend to him it could simply be from a risk/reward standpoint, he may not come light the world on fire but he may prove to be a solid backup, which I am sure isnt why he is looking to transfer.
I guess an analogy would be Michael Brewer coming to VT rather than Clemson -- and Brewer already had a close relationship with Chad Morris. Morris and Brewer both knew it wouldn't be the best decision for him (or Clemson) to go to Clemson (with Clemson having their QB of the future) and Morris pointed him to VT.
If Park was happy with being a back-up, he could just stay at Georgia. I imagine he'll ultimately end up somewhere with a real QB issue, not a "you never know" one.
I agree. I dont see why Park would come here, or anywhere, unless he truly believes he is going to win the job. As you mentioned, he could be a backup at UGA.