Tbh I know my decision — Tino Ellis (@IamTinoEllis) June 21, 2015
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Tbh I know my decision — Tino Ellis (@IamTinoEllis) June 21, 2015
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Has he set an announcement date?
Edit: Already asked
Seems like it's either UMD or VT at this point.
Last we knew, he had set an announcement date of 7/31:
http://www.thekeyplay.com/content/2015/january/30/wr-tino-ellis-top-5-an...
Maybe that will change. Will be interesting to see if having made up his mind accelerates his announcement timeframe.
Haven't followed it too close but does it bode well or not for us that he seems to have made up his mind early?
I feel good about this, Coach Burden is recruiting this kid and things have been going well on Coach B's side of recruiting. You have to think to the need at receiver is there and Dwayne Lawson has been trying to bring guys over. Also, doesn't he have a cousin playing at VT already? I would love to have this kid! Looks like another playmaker!
Yes I believe Donovan Riley is his cousin!
Can't put my finger on it, but this guy...what is it?...
just...seems to have the look of...a Hokie...
Hmmm....I think I see it now... ;)
One more needs to come home!
Can anyone decipher all the emojis and other things going on in that thread?
Edit: old man asking
I am right there with you and haven't hit thirty yet. Tbh means what exactly?
"Tbh" = "to be honest"
I'm not fully versed in Twitter lingo, but the eyes mean "look at" (or maybe "looks like") so the various responses are "looking at/like the Hokies" (eyes and the chicken) or Terps (turtle). Eyes with finger pointing down "look at this" and the embedded picture. Fire = hot (i.e. hot look with the helmet images).
TBH - To Be Honest
I can't really help with emoji's though...
...aaaaaand I'm drinking. by 23 seconds. I'm either a slower reader or a slower stenographer (probably both)
I'm 31 but I feel ancient when talking to under 20's these days. Going back to college is killing me. Kids don't know about OJ trial, terrorists attacks before 9/11 or what quality music and movies are.
Like Jurassic Park in theaters, Bush & Clinton running for president, and Terminator is about to hit the big screen?
Reboots of better products, nothing original these days.
Not always true. Mad Max: Fury Road is quite possibly the best of the series.
Yet still not an original idea.
Might sound weird, but the most original stuff coming out of Hollywood right now is by Pixar, hands down. Took the kids to see Inside Out on Friday night. It wasn't just the best animated movies I've seen in a while, it was one of the best movies I have ever seen. Worth the watch even if you don't have kids.
I still can't believe that emotionally roller coaster is intended for children.
Jesus, right??? Somebody was chopping onions in my theater. Not cool, man.
Reading these few comments about everyone's experience watching the movie made me feel much better about myself... I may or may not have shed a tear or two as well.
I'm much too much of a tough, strong, manly man to cry at a kids movie.
pffft
but yeah I welled up
Seconded. Saw it with my girlfriend (we have no kids, but she is a big Disney/Pixar fan). It was an incredible film and worth the stupid ridiculous prices for movies these days.
It was a good movie, and my wife brought up on the way home that it was a good, original movie. I brought up Herman's Head and she didn't remember it and therefore my argument was invalid. Granted, Herman's Head wasn't in the same neighborhood as Inside Out as far as quality of entertainment goes, but it's the same basic idea. Everything under the sun is just a different version of something else.
Interestingly enough, the director and co-writer of Inside Out wasn't aware of Herman's Head when he began development of the project. He got the idea looking at two pictures of his daughter taken years apart, one when she was three and completely happy and another when she was eleven and a bit more sullen.
Interesting how two people can have almost the exact same idea without influencing each other.
Really? I may have to check it out, I feel like the advertising didn't do anything for the movie. It didn't pique my interests in the slightest.
I guess my question is, then, so what?
You'd be hard pressed not to link everything to something that came before it, ever. It's how things work.
Unpossible.
Nothing beats two men enter one man leaves.
Nothing original?
Last year alone had some of the better movies I've seen in YEARS. Interstellar, and The Grand Budapest Hotel are 2 movies off the top of my head that I absolutely loved. I missed seeing it in theaters, but apparently Ex Machina was a great movie as well. Those, for the most part, were either original scripts, or adaptations of original source material that hadn't been done before, and they were all great.
And you say that these reboots are bad... Meh, the Dark Knight movies were stellar. The Daniel Craig James Bond movies are absolutely killing it right now. The new age of Star Trek has already arguably produced 2 of the better movies of the entire series. Marvel, between their entire Avengers storyline and the revamp of X-Men are riding a wave of hits that has rarely been seen by a single production company.
I'd go so far as to say that Hollywood over the past 3 years or so has been pumping out more quality movies than we've seen in a long while. The only genre which really hasn't taken off during this resurgence is comedy.
"Like Jurassic Park in theaters, Bush & Clinton running for president, and Terminator is about to hit the big screen?"
Plus, Battlebots are on TV.
Did you watch it, if so how was it??? I recorded it last night.
I enjoyed it even though I only happened to catch the last half or so. It is a lot like the original. They even brought back a lot of the original builders/drivers and some of the original bots. One of the original announcers as well. I do not remember if the original version had "helper bots", but I like the idea. That way, you do not get a TKO because someone got a wheel stuck on an obstacle. The helper bots can help "unstick" the main bot and shoot flames and stuff. There were definitely some fireworks, especially in the last battle. Basically, if you liked the original, you should like this version.
I want Hiro's battle bot. That thing is awesome! balalala.
Me the day after Thanksgiving.
Apparently a coworker of mine (and Joel's) was helping one of the battlebots teams last night
EDIT: The guy I'm referring to didn't help last night, the battlebots episode he'll be in hasn't aired yet, but if you see Captain Shreddinator, that's the team.
My step son didn't know who any of the following were:
Willie Mays
Hank Aaron
Don Mattingly
Ken Griffey Jr.
I am old.
It's ok, no one his age cares about baseball. He'll be ok...
This is a sad truth about the current day and age...
I was with my wife and some friends in Hawaii and their younger (22 or so) was with us (she lives there). She was walking and talking holding her phone. I asked who she was talking to in the middle of it and she says "I'm snapchatting." I said "What is snapchat???" Once explained I laughed and kind of hoped that I made it on as the "old" (34) guy on the video asking what the hell she was doing.
"what quality music and movies are."
God why do people always say this stuff. It is so ignorant. The generation before you probably thinks you listen and watch terrible stuff. And the generation before that. When someone confuses objectivity with subjectivity, it gets really annoying.
If a song uses less than 15 (edit: original, meaning not having same words repeated over and over as whole song)words in the entire song it's shit, or made for someone under 7.
So is all classical music shit?
As a fan of House / Dance music - i see the point some of you guys are trying to make (I myself am 29 and can relate), but what i've come to understand and accept that change is inevitable, and that what we think is classic music, someone 20 years older than us thought it was just as bad as the crap we hear nowadays.
Here are the top songs of your 20th year. Pop music is mostly crap no matter the era.
2003 Billboard Top 100
Is this selective memory or something. You are acting like every song made nowadays follows that method and songs in the past have never done that. The variety of music produced is so immense that it has something for literally every single interest out there. It has been that way forever. I think you hear a song that is popular with this generation of kids and assume that is the only type of music available to listen to.
Oh, my. This gif belongs in the hall of fame.
#allthegiantlegs
if simple music connects with someone else it is shit? if complex music fails to connect is it still worthwhile?
shortly after the Beatles debuted (yes, I am old enough to remember), it was popular to criticize music based on blues and rock progressions because of the simple format. i think they missed on that one.
Not sure if I agree/disagree with you, but when it comes to music/art, you can like/dislike something, but still acknowledge the talent required.
For example, I personally hate The Beatles' music (*DUCKS*), but I still recognize how incredibly talented they were. On the flip side, the #3 song on the current Billboard top 100 (Trap Queen by Fetty Wap) took no talent to write, and is an awful, terrible song, but for some strange reason I still enjoy listening to it.
In terms of talent, it hasn't left the music industry. It has just shifted from artist to producer/engineer. An artist (mostly speaking about pop right now) isn't so much a creative talent as they are an instrument in the song composed by the producer and played by the audio engineer. The talent to create music that can reach the radio charts quickly and stay there, while sounding the same on all types of audio setups (5.1, 7.1, car radio, earbuds, BT speakers, etc...), that talent is pretty significant.
Disclaimer: my sister is an audio engineer and so I am pretty biased. ;-)
Edit: Also, I am with you on the Beatles, except I don't really even think they were that talented. And now someone has come along and put research to my uninformed opinion!
Beatles did not revolutionise music, study claims
Must. Not. Downvote. For. Opinion. Uuuuuuugh!!!!
Yeah, that 73 yo hack McCartney just played a sold-out Wells Fargo Center to rave reviews.
What a bunch of morons...paying money to see that guy.
Not that talented? Whaaaaaaaaaa?
Listen to George Harrison shred his face off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvDHwVM-PJI
or Paul McCartney's 17 minute stretch on the back end of Abbey Road that seamlessly blends so many different styles of music together. One of the greatest pieces of music I have ever heard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvDHwVM-PJI
John Lennon, well John Lennon doesn't need much hype : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTU2Y0VFH0E
And sweet sweet Ringo, bless his heart he tried so hard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y39MjhVrf_Y
I will support you if you say that The Beatles don't suit your taste, but to say that they were "not that talented" is crazy. 600 million albums sold says otherwise. I'm not into the Beatlemanina pop music either and I feel that most people associate the band only with that time period. The Beatles Recorded 12 albums, 13 EP's and 22 singles. Once they got to america and stopped letting other people write their songs for them, most of what came after was incredible music from 4 very talented musicians. No one has, and I doubt anyone else will ever be able to duplicate their success.
Not to mention each member had huge success post Beatles.
Not your taste, fine. Not that talented, false.
Sorry if I ranted.
It's totally ok. I appreciate a good rant, especially when it is a well thought through and properly sourced rant. I would love to give you a leg for each link, but alas, I can only give one.
It's like that song that P Diddy did with Paul McCartney and all these young people were tweeting how famous P Diddy was going to make Paul. People were like "I don't know who Paul McCartney is but P Diddy just made him famous." ha ha ha ha
Long story, short. I was eating dinner outside on the other side of the Green Monster at Fenway Park when McCartney was playing there a few years back (I went to the show the next night, but thought it would be kinda cool to eat dinner with Paul McCartney live in the background). Anyway...there were some 20-somethings sitting beside me and when the "Live and let die...bah (explosion), bah" happened, we all about jumped out of their seats.
Of course, I warned them this would happen again later in the song. They asked how I knew that and I said I knew the song. They said that they'd never heard the song before and asked who was playing. When I said "Paul McCartney", they just had a blank look. I said did you ever see the movie James Bond movie "Live And Let Die"? Same blank look. I gave them a "really?" look and they said something like "we're only 23".
I'm generalizing here of course, but it's astounding to me how social media and pop culture have narrowed the window for these kids.
To be fair, I am a big Bond fan, and even I couldn't tell you much about Live and Let Die. Not one of my favorites.
Not too noteworthy of a movie, really. Had a young Jayne Seymour, it introduced us to the walking southern cop stereotype in Sheriff Pepper, and had one of the cheesiest death scenes in the entire series...
For those who played Goldeneye N64 as a kid, it did introduce us to Baron Samedi...
As for the song itself, even if they didn't know the Paul McCartney version, they should at least have heard Guns N Roses cover it.
I would have been 23 at that time and I can can confidently say I've never met a person my age who didn't know who Paul McCartney was. It's really not a generational thing, it's just that some random people have information gaps.
I agree with this here. I think these days people just pay less and less attention to things that happened "long ago" if you will.
I was born in late 1982. But I still know a lot about things that happened/were popular well before then from a pop culture standpoint. But my wife, who was born early 1983 and who is an extremely intelligent person, is just plain clueless on a lot of those same things. She just didn't spend (waste?) time learning about them because they had little to nothing to do with her own life.
While not completely clueless on pop culture, I'm constantly asking my wife who the celebrities on Conan, The Tonight Show, celebrity versions of game shows, etc. are. Another example is that for the longest time I had trouble telling these three celebrities apart:
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Whenever I saw one of them I would think, "Isn't that the oldest brother from Malcom in the Middle...or is it the singer from Sum 41? And I didn't know who NPH was until my wife and I started watching through HIMYM on Netflix (got caught up in time to watch the last season or two live)
When I was about 3 or 4 I loved listening to the song "I Got My Mind Set On You" repeatedly and it wasn't until sometime in my 20s that I realized it was sung by one of The Beatles.
Also concerning The Beatles, I fall into the "I don't see what all the fuss is about" camp, but I'm still trying to convince my wife that I don't actually hate them because I joked with her about her Beatles poster when we were dating/engaged.
hokiefireman, you seem like a great guy, but wow are you wrong. I'm nearly 38 and if you think this is true then you are really not open to anything but what you like personally.
beautiful music around the world can be found with less than 15 words per song. have you ever heard a Bhutanese mountain song? it basically has 3 sounds but is singularly the most hauntingly beautiful thing I have ever heard. Hui ethnicity Chinese sing in high pitched whistles that in groups are simply gorgeous. Flamenco guitar tells a story in each song without voicing a single word. Dance, trance, beatbox, dubstep, etc are all amazing forms of song that use beats, rhythm and sound with few words. It's not what you may prefer but all beautiful.
movies you see today are all sequels because your and my generation demanded them. we were the Saturday morning cartoon generation, the console video game generation, the home computer generation, the gi joe/transformers/tmnt/my little pony/Nickelodeon/comic book generation. we created a billion dollar industry for toy merchandise, television advertising, movies, tv shows, etc specifically for kids. We demanded it from our parents and our parents had the disposable income for it. now we are all parents and yearn for the magic of our youth for ourselves and our children, so we get remakes, sequels, etc more than ever before. but that is our doing because we demand them and pay big for them. that is why they are almost all blockbusters because we are still paying for them. yet at the same time more artistic, independent, documentary, etc films are being made than EVER before. You may only be seeing the sequels and remakes, but that is simply because you are choosing not to look beyond the cinema for the innovative ones.
there is nothing wrong with you wanting what you want, but there is something wrong with you telling others what they want is not good.
be more open minded, push yourself to look beyond your self imposed limitations. there is literally a world out there that you are missing.
It's not a song having less words it's using the same 5 words 60 times. It's not that real innovators don't exists it's that they are pushed to the margins for the "popular" lowest common denominator. The outrage when Beck won an award this year is a great example.
does that matter though? songs also repeat chorus lines, drum beats, guitar riffs throughout them. why is it so important for words to be uniquely different throughout?
I think the Beck incidence is just generational. Beck is older and less popular than others, and those awards a by and large popularity contests. when Nirvana won awards people lost their shit too because it "wasn't music". the Doors before them. every generation has their thing, but it doesn't mean what is popular now is not good.
Hans Zimmer is one of the best musicians out there, and I can't recall any of his songs that has lyrics.
You don't need words to make good music. In fact, some of the best music is completely devoid of it
I'm not saying songs need words, BUT if you use words they need to be a unique song not 5 words repeated unless it's a kids song.
Man, there are three people who understood what you meant about words in songs. lol
Would you say smells like teen spirit was a good song? Because those unique words were literally just thrown in there, with zero meaning
Or basically every single big hit that Rage Against the Machine had was one or two verses repeated over and over again for the entire song.
Stop, all of you, stop. You cannot argue about music. Nothing is so subjective, so personal, so absolutely impervious to opinion as music. Music in any and all of it's forms is perfect, whether you get it or not.
I can't wait to hear your defense for Bieber's music being 'perfect'
I won't go so far as calling all music "perfect," but I have come to realize that there is value in just about everything out there.
I used to be a music snob, no other way to put it. During high school, I was the kid listening to Hendrix, Zeppelin, Beatles, Rolling Stones, etc. on my dad's vinyl. I still think that's the best stuff I've ever heard, but I'm not inclined to call everything else crap like I used to. I looked down my nose at most pop and whatever it was they played on MTV (back when they played music in the late '90s/early '00s). I have come to realize that the value of music is found in whether or not it elicits an emotional response in the audience. Personally, Bieber is junk to my ears, but I can appreciate the fact that he has been extremely successful in producing pop music that his audience enjoys. It brings happiness to people. So in that, I can appreciate it. Kid's got a pretty good voice, if only he used it to sing better songs :)
My position is as unpopular as it may be, something can be entertaining and still crap. The whole Jackass genre? I listen to modern top music doesn't mean I think the artist behind it is talented.
I don't necessarily disagree, but I think there is subtlety to the argument that everyone is trying to bring out. I have a hierarchy of sorts that I use when describing "good" music:
1. Do I like it?
2. Is the artist talented?
3. Is the song well composed?
If all 3, I call it good music. For example, I might "like" a song I hear at a party, in a bar/club, whatever, because it's fun in that setting, but it's not something I would listen to recreationally. That doesn't mean the song is crap, in my mind. It's just contextual.
Side note: what is "Jackass genre?" I have never in my life heard that term.
The Jackass movies and movies like it.
You do realize that the original "Jackass movies" were The Three Stooges right? It's a form of slapstick comedy that is taken to an entirely different level from before, but that's what makes it current and different from the past. Sure, it's more extreme and ridiculous, but the nature of the beast originates from timeless classics that transcend time and adapt with what's popular with society.
I don't recall the three stooges ever actually injuring each other intentionally. Some of their(Jackass) skits are funny but when they set out to just see how much pain they can inflict on another person it's not slapstick.
Regardless of the severity of the injury, it is still slapstick.
agreed. people have been using violent/dangerous slapstick for a long time
buster keaton
Harold Lloyd
Charlie Chaplin
I would have to argue Gregorian Chant is borderline...
THIS!...it is almost unbearable...
Tbh = "Tino be Hokie"
First leg!! Nice one lol! welcome!
Well, that's one way to make an entrance. Welcome!
Leg. But your initials better be AC, or you work in heating and cooling.
i'm in the all lower case phase of my life, "ac" refers to my locale, that also was my alias while at tech, thanks for the legs, i've been on this site for over a year just never commented
/word to the grammar people, don't take it personally, as numbers guy this is my break time
We were all thinking it
Doesn't really mean anything, they more or less are just an "I see you" type of thing.
I'm not too certain about this one. Dwayne Haskins (UM commit) seems fairly sure that he's going to Maryland. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
Since he committed, he's a cheerleader for Maryland. What do you expect him to say?
I don't think you'll know this one until he actually commits.
He also went to HS with Cam Philips.
^^ this.. could be huge given the amount of playing time cam got as a freshman just goes to show we'll play freshman and thats what recruits want.
I believe that will help better than the Riley relationship.
We all joke about #sources, I had the privilege of meeting Donovan' s mother and step father in a social setting last fall, it was a game weekend Friday, I don't recall the date. His step father casually, not demeaning, and very respectfully commented as to not being the biggest fan of Beamer.
Take it as you wish, food for thought
C'mon schwartz......c'mon schwartz......
I would love to add another playmaker to the roster.
So, uh, back to Tino Ellis and football...
I would say things look good. Last time I recall anyone interviewing him we were in the lead and most of the reliable/non-Maryland recruiting "gurus" have predicted him to us. Also, he has several connections here and Haskins seems hopeful rather than possessing any insider knowledge.
I certainly hope he becomes a Hokie. He'll be a big-time playmaker no matter where he goes.
I mean, lets be honest... If we have Ford, Philips, Kumah, and Ellis on the team at the same time, that'll arguably be the most talent we've had at WR as a whole unit since the 2000 National Championship Game.
Between Lawson and the WR talent VT will have if Ellis comes on board, I predict good things. Very good things.
05-07 had a pretty solid WR unit too. Royal, Morgan, Clowney, Harper, Hyman. The first three played/are playing extensively in the NFL, and I think all five at least made an NFL roster. That's a good bit of talent.
Wrong. That would be the most talent since the Royal-Clowney-Harper-Morgan group that produced 4 NFL guys. The 1999 team was Andre Davis and "eh."
Just another reason to hate Sean Glennon.
Sean wasn't the OC calling the plays or not taking advantage of the talent we had...
This is so true, we have really not had great receivers for a long time.
as devil's advocate, danny coale and jarrett boykin are 1,2 all time at VT. Corey Fuller was with them at least 1 year, I think.
we also pass nearly twice as much during that stretch then we did in the earlier 2000s. There was an offensive philosophy shift to become more of a passing team than a smashmouth run team.
I still refuse to call a screen pattern a pass, at least in the way we were doing it. Its a stretch run, especially in the way we were running it by the end of the Stiney regime. Our ability to effectively throw the ball forward was nonexistent those last few years.
Yep. If you go back and watch replays of games from 1999, the amount of times you hear an announcer say "Vick to Davis" gets absurd. I think he averaged something like 25 yards per catch that season and had 10 tds. Home run hitter right there.
eh, not too sure on that one. Talent based on what? Star ranking, maybe yes. Ford and Phillips have shown they have talent, but lets just pump on the brakes and see how Kumah and Ellis (if he comes here) turn out before we crown those 4 better than the WR combination of Royal, Hyman, Morgan, Clowney, and Harper. And I agree with French, the title game year was about Andre and others.
If we land 2 of our 3 top remaining WR targets we'll have an excellent WR class. Divine Dealbo (6-3, 4.5) and Grant Holloway (6-2, 4.3) are both game-breaking WRs. Ellis has a little more polish to his game and a lot more camp exposure, but Dealbo's offer list is top-notch and you can't teach Holloway's speed. I hope we add all 3 of them to our team, two talented, taller WRs (Kumah, Dealbo), a deep threat (Holloway) and an all-around playmaker (Ellis)
Wow, just thinking about our offense the next few years...if we can land most, if not all of these wideouts, add in Ford and Phillips, Lawson and Jackson at QB, a stable of young RBs, Bucky/Burke/Cline at TE, and Teller/Conte/Gallo plus other promising young OL guys...there is the potential for something really special at VT. We are really stocking the cupboard on that side of the ball. Absolutely incredible considering how bad things had gotten only 3 years ago.
need better OL recruiting if it's going to be maintained. SS is doing a good job of getting us in the top groups of some good guys especially landon Dickerson this year, but it means very little if we don't land them.
Agreed. We've gotta keep momentum going our way and hope things go our way with with some big time national recruits. Our recruiting efforts have really stepped up the past few years, far better than what we had before. I would argue that this is the level at which we always should have been recruiting. I think our increased social media presence and brand new indoor facility will continue to get our name out there more.
He apparently wants to announce at some Terp bar, so looks like another one bites the dust. I am excited about Kumah however, and think we finish strong with WR in this class. And who knows, Denmark could end up being best of the bunch.
Bentleys and yes it seems like that may be the kiss of death for us if in fact he does announce there. That leaves Holloway, deablo and boyd as the primary targets.
I think that UMD article and the tweet from Ellis talking about announcing there are from way back in January. A lot could have changed in 5 months, but I suppose we will see. Not an encouraging location, but we've known about it since then, so I don't know why we would suddenly have no shot now.
Yup, unless I missed him reiterate that statement, it's old news.
Hopefully he's changed his mind, can't see him making a non-Terp announcement there.
I don't think it is a big deal, he made that decision back in January when he was riding high on the Terps, since April he has listed VT as his favorite... I don't think we should dig up old information. I have good feelings.
Has he specifically listed us as his favorite?
247 has us as #1, but I haven't seen him say anything about it.
Believe he told 247 specifically that VT was his favorite.
247 says VT
Rivals says MD
both say close though....
fwiw
Translation:
"We have no idea, but we don't want to agree with the other in case they're wrong".
He could just feel like trolling the absolute crap outta a bunch of Terp fans at their own bar.
No matter what, he's building the drama.
I'd LOVE to see him at VT, though. He seems like the real deal, and seems to have a good sense of humor anyway.
Anyone else think that maybe the "decision" that he already knows might not be a recruiting based one? Maybe he just decided where to eat lunch that day. Or maybe he decided what songs to put on his playlists? I feel like he was bored and is having a little fun.
"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"--Neil Peart
Can you express a drum solo in text? I very much want to put a drum solo here.
Since it's Rush, why not express a pretentious keyboard solo instead?
Or make it seem far more difficult and complicated than it really is...
In a time signature of 7/4, with a 5/8 verse every sixth time through.
I can express a drum solo in text, but I will refrain. I always told my drum students, if you can say it (rhythm), you can play it. Kids like when their name becomes a rhythm that their buds are all saying in unison.
Here's this just for some comedy.
Had to abandon my usual lurking and log in so I could like this
Hey, hang around and talk! We are not that bad.
Everyone's favorite tweeter (Hokie5284 or whatever) says he's UMD bound.
Should be taken with many grains of salt of course but just thought I'd share.
he's usually pretty well informed, but tino not being a Richmond kid makes me think it's more a gut feeling for him.
According to CZY on 247, he's apparently not as well informed as the UMD insiders.
Is CZY saying the UMD insiders think he's VT bound?
no what was posted above is not what czy said and since it's pay info not getting into it out of respect for their site.
Fair enough.
Exactly. You can get whatever you want out of my comment, but if you want the source, go pay for it.
Wasn't trying to circumvent the paywall, just wasn't understanding your post.
If its written by that guy, I immediately think the opposite is true.
He may be slightly informed about a few things, but I'd rather hear it from someone I respect than an arrogant asswipe such as him.
He seems to have some sort of inside access, which I value.
I just noticed his tweets aren't protected anymore. From what I saw, he just looks like an eternal pessimist who is always going to be screaming that the sky is falling when we miss a recruit. He even goes into a rant about imagining how great a team we would have if we would have closed on recruits we missed on recently. All but one of them either haven't played a down or are not contributors at their school. I can't take that very seriously.
I don't know the guy. I can tell you I probably wouldn't like him if I met him in person. What I can tell you is that he has more access to the VT Athletic Department than I do (which is pretty much zero) so I follow him and see what info I can glean from his tweets.
Just the messenger here.
That's cool, I don't fault you there.
More access doesn't necessarily mean more information.
And more information doesn't necessarily mean one knows how to interpret it.
And interpretation doesn't necessarily mean Kendall returned it all the way back for a touchdown.
Wasn't he sold that Kendall Fuller was going to Clemson and Mook was going to Ole Miss?
Yup....
That's this guy in a nutshell... He predicts everyone to go everywhere but VT, and doesn't say a word when they come here. But god forbid the kids actually go elsewhere, cause then he goes on tirade after tirade on how shitty our coaching staff is.
The guy is an absolute clown
family has access to VT brass, unless he burned all of the bridges when he went rogue. has some recruiting contacts and he also guesses a lot. sees himself as a factor in shaping the direction of VT athletics.
Sounds like this guy has more positive tweets about the program than fans at the LOLuva spring game.
Sarcasm, right?
to be fair it's a bit harder to contribute at schools when you are sitting behind other elite players compared to our situation atm and most of the guys he listed are in their first or second years.
We rotate skill players a lot when we have the depth so if you are in the 2 deep you will get a good bit of playing time. Especially in 3 and 4 WR sets
most of the players on the list that was being discussed were DL.
DL is one of our most rotated positions. Just saying
What does our rotation have to do with the recruits that went to other schools and are sitting behind other elite talent? Here is the list of players and his comments.
Dashawn Hand- Teammates, coaches (played at bama as a true freshmen but not much and is expected to be a backup again this year)
Matt Rolin- Family, strong VT area (went to Florida no clue about him, but spring reports said he looked the best he has to date and he's a r-fr)
Korren Kirven- Seriously? (did nothing at Alabama but has played behind some monsters and just like deshawn hand I think he was a bad fit as he's not big/strong enough to play NT and not fast enough to play their DE)
Win Homer (went to BC no idea on what he's done on the OL)
Derrick Nnadi-Family ties (got significant PT as a true freshmen)
Darrell Taylor- VT school, loved VT, coaches blew it. (true freshmen this year at UTjr)
Clelin Ferrell- VT school, teammates, family (true freshmen this year at Clemson)
Felton Davis III-Pipeline (true freshmen this year at MSU)
Josh Sweat-New Pipeline, teammates, family (true freshmen this year at FSU coming off major knee reconstruction and being moved to OLB)
Basically you cut and pasted Hokie# Twitter rant, no evidence based reasons.
it's not basically, that's what I did and added in my take on the players in parenthesis. figured since people were talking about it might as well include the player's names.
when talking about recruiting you are not going to find many "evidence based reasons". I'd put money on his take for the Richmond kids (taylor, Ferrell and felton davis) as he's very connected down there especially at Benedictine. He also left off darvin taylor from that area who was thought to be a hokie lean early in the process but picked FSU.
I'm not so sure about his "connections" especially at Benedictine, I'm an alumnus of Benedictine, I played on two state championship football teams there, talk to coaches and teachers regularly there and have never heard of him having any connections.
well the information he got on minor, Ferrell and bracey seems to indicate he has major connections there. had good connections for info from Thomas dale and clover hill (if that's where JC and Holland fisher went).
Caleb went to Clover Hill and Fisher spent his first 3 years there before transferring to Manchester.
I misread the comments above ours that led to it. I was thinking that they went elsewhere because our rosters had younger talent and was pointing out we rotate a lot but that is not relevant now that I realize what the discussion was on.
Pretty sure everyone's favorite tweeter is now VTPhreak4Evr.
He thanks you for crediting him.
That guy is about as useful as a turd-flavored lollipop.
That looks disturbingly tantalizing.
Hey! Why you wanna sully this thread with a pic of Scott Stadium? :)
We don't need that kind of negativity.