
Last Friday it was reported by multiple media outlets that projected starter at rover C.J. Reavis is no longer enrolled at Virginia Tech. Reavis will appeal the decision of a student conduct hearing, but his potential absence from the Hokies' depth chart this season could have a domino effect on the defensive secondary. The Hokies will begin the 2015 season without graduated three-year starters Kyshoen Jarrett and Detrick Bonner. It is paramount that the new rover and free safety effectively communicate force and spill calls with the edge defender and then be reliable one-on-one tacklers. The Hokies have a host of rover candidates that have spent a significant amount of time in the program, but none of those options have the playmaking ability that C.J. Reavis brought to the table. Foster will spend August camp working to identify a player from a large pool that can effectively communicate coverage and run support calls, be an effective tackler in one-on-one battles around the line of scrimmage, and that can cover tight ends and slot receivers. Foster may be forced into using a platoon system in order to get each of those pieces on the field based on situational need.
Reavis stood out in the spring game by leading the Hokies in tackles, including several strong alley tackle fills that I highlighted in my spring game review. I also noted that Reavis overran a handful of plays and was susceptible to counter-action, which isn't surprising for an inexperienced player. Reavis provided a significant upgrade in potential playmaking ability, yet I anticipated that there would be some growing pains as he became more comfortable with playing assignment-driven run support. Now, Foster has to reshuffle a deck that is also significantly dependent upon fielding a healthy Brandon Facyson in order to cope with aggressive spread passing games like North Carolina and Ohio State.
From the moment the possibility that Reavis may not be available became apparent to the coaches, I expect that Coach Foster started working on contingencies. He has several options. Desmond Frye has some experience at both the rover and free safety, although very little in game situations after 2013. Donovan Riley played rover in the spring. Anthony Shegog played the nickel position in the Military Bowl, however most of his practice time in Blacksburg has been spent as a rover. Terrell Edmunds played as the No. 2 rover in the spring game, and Adonis Alexander started the spring at rover before he was moved to boundary corner after he demonstrated excellent coverage ability. Chuck Clark has been identified by Bud Foster as his likely free safety, yet his excellent performance as a run defender playing near the line of scrimmage gives Foster the flexibility to use him as a rover.
Each of those options has merits, and each has potential down side. Frye is a dependable player, yet his athletic upside is limited. Against Alabama in 2013, he was isolated in pass defense several times and was beaten badly (most notably for a touchdown by Christion Jones).
Neither Frye nor Riley impressed me in the spring game with their run support. Riley particularly seemed hesitant to come forward in run support, and as a corner he was wildly inconsistent with his tackling (particularly against wide receiver screens by East Carolina). Moving Clark away from the nickel or free safety spot takes away one of the three best coverage players (along with Fuller and Facyson) from positions that match up more often against wide receivers. Edmunds is inexperienced, and Foster indicated at the Northern Virginia Hokie Club Chalk Talk in April that Shegog may have outgrown the rover position and will move to whip. Each solution seems to create a new problem.
I noodled on this over the weekend, and in my deliberations, I looked back to Coach Foster's scheme in 2012. 2012 was a bad season marked by a slew of injuries in the defensive secondary. After several poor recruiting cycles, the defensive cupboard was nearly bare. Foster's initial solution was to try and highlight the strengths of his available players while minimizing exposure of their weaknesses. His initial system moved Bonner into a coverage role, while Michael Cole was used almost exclusively in run support or zone coverage. When Cole was injured, Foster abandoned most of his nickel looks and used Alonzo Tweedy as an edge rusher. Both looks were flawed, and occasionally exposed, however they allowed Foster to field a competitive unit while limiting opportunities for offenses to exploit weaknesses.
I could envision Foster using a similar approach without Reavis in the lineup. In base defensive situations when the Hokies use two-deep safeties, I would expect Chuck Clark at free safety, and Desmond Frye at rover. When Foster wants to use an eight-man front, like the Bear defense, he would need to maximize tackling against the run and man coverage, and no one player brings that skillset at the rover spot based on my observation. However, just like in baseball, Foster could use a platoon system.
Against Ohio State, Kyshoen Jarrett played a significant portion of snaps aligned next to Chase Williams while executing many of the same inside linebacker responsibilities as a backer. If Foster wants to get his best playmakers on the field, perhaps we might see a similar scenario where, in run down and distance situations, Foster could incorporate an athletic linebacker in lieu of a rover in a Bear or other eight-man front alignment. For example, Ronny Vandyke or Jamieon Moss could align next to Motuapuaka to support the run. Both would provide bigger bodies that could take on blockers and make tackles in the box. Based on Vandyke's 2012 spring game performance, it is safe to assume that he would not be a liability in coverage against most tight ends and less threatening slot receivers. However, Vandyke would need to be less robotic in executing assignments in that role and showcase his natural ability that we saw glimpses of in 2012. So far, his head tying up his feet (and staying healthy) has kept him from taking the next step.
The second part of the platoon would be coverage oriented. Jarrett sometimes struggled in man coverage, when he found himself matched up against athletic tight ends like East Carolina's Bryce Williams. Having a big, athletic coverage player gives Foster some options on the boundary.
One of the revelations of the spring was the ability of Adonis Alexander to play coverage. In early scrimmage work, Alexander often found himself matched up with Bucky Hodges, and Alexander showed the ability as a young player to stay stride for stride with the TE matchup nightmare. Shortly afterwards, Foster moved Alexander to the boundary corner. He was beaten badly once on a busted coverage by Deon Newsome in the spring game. Otherwise, his man coverage was very solid. I could envision a situation where Alexander could be utilized in man coverage from the rover spot against tight end's like Bryce Williams and big slot receivers like UNC's Mack Hollins. Alexander's long term future likely is as a big boundary corner similar to Jimmy Williams, however short term his size and ability to cover (areas where the other rover options are not as adept) may facilitate his ability to help the team meet an immediate need at the rover spot.
You may ask why I wouldn't suggest Alexander as an every down option at rover. His high school film projected him as a big safety who was more comfortable around the line of scrimmage than he was in space. I would argue, as a true freshman, that while Alexander has the physical ability to play strong run support, his limited experience (especially given how little time he spent at rover in the spring making force and spill calls) could be a negative. The rover is a coach on the field setting the defense to the boundary side. Communication is critical, and Foster usually utilizes experienced players in that role whenever possible. Putting Alexander in that position as an every down player instead of as a situational match up could create communication errors. In Foster's defense, one player being out of position can spell doom.
I can't sugar coat the apparent loss of Reavis. I have been incredibly high on the kid since the beginning of his recruitment. His ability to ballhawk, support the run, and cover made him a likely candidate to be a three-year starter. His loss will be felt. At the same time, the Hokies have a host of young players that can effectively play the position. Bud Foster has a proven track record of taking players that may be limited and find ways to fit them into his system effectively without fundamentally changing his system's core tenets.
No one can be certain of what Bud will do to adapt, yet two things will happen. 1) He will put a kid into the position where he has the best chance of having success. 2) The depth chart and alignments that will be discussed in press conferences and showcased at any public scrimmages will most likely not be the scheme and personnel that lines up against the Buckeyes. Coach Foster will play his cards close to the vest.

Comments
Jahque Alleyne is too inexperienced? (I bet I butchered his name)
Seems like a good athlete who could factor into the FS/Rover rotation.
Considering that he isn't even admitted to VT yet, I'd say he's too inexperienced.
I like Alleyne, but again, Bud wants experience in the rover and free safety spots. Plus, Alleyne isn't enrolled yet as noted above.
Thanks French. This is a big blow. The only way it would be worse was if he was dismissed closer to the start of the season. At least Bud will have time to ponder and prepare during fall practice.
On the bright side, we have at least one member of our secondary who is new to major playing time step up every year. (2014 - Clark, 2013 - Fuller/Facyson, etc). It will happen again in 2015. Next man up.
Holland Fisher came in as the top ranked safety prospect in his class. This could be his chance after a red shirt season to take the bull by the horns and make this position his. I know there are questions about him not being able to grasp the defense. But hopefully he will work hard this summer to learn the calls and alignments. In a perfect world though Reavis is reinstated.
Fischer is a whip, hasn't been at safety for a while now so I'm not sure he'd fit
I never fully understood Fisher's regard as a safety product. He played as an undersized linebacker at every level of his development except at all-star camps. He didn't look particularly dynamic, where Reavis looked like a perfect fit for Foster's ideal defense, which has five DB's all close to equally proficient at both run support and coverage. Fisher didn't do anything in the spring to stand out at the whip spot (note, Foster highlighted Shegog bulking up to around 220 and moving to whip, which suggests to me that he will be ahead of Fisher at whip on the depth chart) and he clearly wasn't comfortable at rover or he would not have been moved to whip at 190 pounds. I get that sinking feeling that Fisher is either a late bloomer, or won't be a contributor.
I hope he had an amazing summer, and comes in and plays like a dynamo. But, the safe bet is to expect one of the kids that Bud has shown trust in before like Frye, to win the job.
Agreed. Most saw fisher as a tweener between the rover and whip position. Hoping he gets it together and can contribute at whip. Also thought he could be a difference maker on special teams, but haven't heard much in that regard.
Yep...not being athletic enough for rover at 190 lbs isn't a good sign.
Fisher was the guy who pushed Fisher as a DB, saying he would only be recruited as a DB etc etc.
As it turns out, his rating was based on camps and looks - not a lot of actual film and even less film of him playing DB. Then he goes and loses 20lb during his redshirt year and gets moved to whip because he doesn't have the hips for DB. My bust meter is going crazy and I was someone excited about him becoming a headhunting FS.
I'm just hopeful he can contribute on special teams at this point. Hopefully he doesn't wind up like joel caleb, but it seems to be heading that way.
Nice write up to see what's possible. No Bud-Foster pun intended but in some strange way this could be a blessing in disguise.
So, assuming Reavis has been forced to leave school for some student-code violation, would it be possible for him to be readmitted at a later date, one year or so?
That is outside of my area of expertise, as I am not a VT alum. I will defer to those who have more familiarity with the conduct code.
There are various levels of suspension - 1 semester, 2 semesters, and permanent dismissal. Depends on the severity of the infraction. So potential exists that he will be back fro next season, or even for spring.
Thanks for the write up French. Is there 0% chance at this point that CJ gets reinstated?
I have zero inside knowledge, but according to available documentation about the process, expulsions meted out by the Student Conduct board are only overturned on technicalities or if significant new evidence comes to light. Winning an appeal is extremely unlikely. Everyone should accept the fact that he's gone. If somehow he's reinstated, we should take it as a miracle and hope that he keeps it together for the rest of his time at VT.
technicality -a point of law or a small detail of a set of rules.
Solution- Bud Foster Law states that CJ Reavis is the best god damn Rover in the NCAA and needs to be present for the 2015-2016 football season.
According to someone in the athletic department, "It was stupid."
*edit* obligatory #Sources
And that's 100% of the information I got. It was stupid.
I SMELL SOURCES!
*edit to your edit: WE WANT MOAR THO
Stupid like, he'll be back out on the practice field in August stupid or he ruined his life in the blink of an eye on an impulse decision stupid?
Just, "it was stupid."
some say he will have to redshirt a year - at best
Expelled means expelled I don't think they let you back in do they?
Does anyone actually know what is going on yet? Either the reason for the kerfuffle or the consequences of said kerfuffle?
It seems like the people who need to know, know. The rest of us will probably find out quite a ways down the line.
FTFY
Also a very real possibility.
Was it ever officially reported that Reavis was expelled? All I ever heard was that he is no longer enrolled which I thought could happen if you had a semester/year suspension from the university. Does anyone know from experience?
I have yet to read anything that says anything more than he is no longer enrolled.
I take that to mean he is no longer enrolled...
I mean, I agree with you...but at the same time, there are only so many ways one can achieve the status of 'no longer enrolled' involuntarily...
Dismissed = expelled??!! Suspended is suspended. Seems like a different designation
Don't you bring reasonable, logical questions into this discussion when we have #SOURCES
As usual, French, a comprehensive and informed look at the options. The tenuous nature of our type of defense is exposed when we lose someone as important as Reavis, and while Bud's expertise can cover a lot of sins, it is disappointing to lose such an important cog. I do hope Reavis gets his situation sorted out in his/our favor, but it looks like we just have to move on. It's college ball, we don't have anyone but for so long anyway.
Luckily our beast d-line will be rushing opposing qb's so much that they will not have time to throw so it is really a moot point who is in the secondary! On a serious note, with 3 all ACC caliber (one of them all NCAA) players back there I am sure Bud will figure out who to plug into the hole that was reaved through our D...
Reading French is like staying at Holiday Inn Express, you just get smarter and smarter.
The free continental breakfast is also nice.
French once provided me with a convenience store chicken biscuit for breakfast before a fishing trip. Does that count?
Depends on how the fishing was.
We caught a cobia, our targeted species, so it was good enough. Also had a successful afternoon the day before catching croakers and spot for bait. Biscuit was pretty good too.
If the appropriate amount of beer was also consumed then yes, it counts!
Well, given that French doesn't drink, and it was actually too hot to drink alcohol (I know, I know, hard to believe it's even possible) when we were out, and believe me I would have drunk his share for him, we were drinking water as fast as we could, and three of us went an entire day on the water without having to pee.
Those qualifiers factored in, I'd say in this particular case, the appropriate amount of beer was absolutely consumed.
I drank a 32 oz powerade and 8 18 oz bottles of water, and had zero urge to go to the bathroom until 5 hours after the trip concluded.
All the time I have been bouncing around TKP and I never knew you didn't drink. Can't believe I missed that nugget. Bravo to you. I think I might quite possibly maybe kinda wanna be like French when I grow up.
Ha! It isn't really a choice. I have to take a medication where, if I drink, it could cause serious issues with my kidneys. Merely self preservation on my end. Continue to enjoy your beers folks (responsibly, of course.)
I had a day like that with my dad and his old timers on the Rappahannock River many moons ago. Many of the old guys hadn't remembered a day that hot with no breeze in a while. Caught a lot of croakers that day but not much spot. And occasionally a too small to keep flounder.
Was the biscuit from a gas station on the Outer Banks?
North Star Mart, Gloucester, VA. When in the Outer Banks, usually go by Biscuits and Porn for our breakfast.
I'm sure I read that wrong.
You didn't.
Best biscuits down there bar NONE!!!
I see what you did there...gross.
Typo? Or breakfast of champions?
My fishing buddy (also a rabid Hokie) who has a house down there takes us by a convenience store he says has always been known locally as "Biscuits and Porn". He said until just a few years ago, the place had an extensive supply of "girly" mags, in addition to having good breakfast biscuits. He also said the porn was still there, just not prominently displayed as it had once been. For the record, I've not looked for or seen any porn stuff there, but he, and apparently other locals, still call the place Biscuits and Porn. Ya can't make this stuff up!
Reminds me of that movie "Porn 'n Chicken" years ago.
They made some big sales on the B&P t-shirts for a long time. I haven't seen those shirts the last year or two.
Hopefully these young kids are doing some film study this summer and working hard in OTAs
Can Kam suit up? He played Rover in '07, and like so many others, was shuffled around the secondary during his collegiate years
Reading this from a Buckeye perspective I see us having a chance to create mismatches by throwing on down and distance situations that call for a run play. More importantly, if we have a credible pass threat it'll make it hard for your D to decide what to do in such situations giving us a chance to exploit the uncertainty even if we do decide to run. I'd guess we;ll see our QB doing a few more audibles on the line as he sees how you lineup in such situations. If you can get pressure on our QB that would take away some of the opportunity to exploit your defensive lineup so I would imagine Beamer will be aggressive, at the risk of a big play, to limit our chances.
I'm most afraid of Elliot getting past our linebackers into the secondary and not having enough reliable tacklers back there
Gotta get past our line first... just sayin
Well, you're the #1 team in the country, defending national champion and likely 20 point favorite. I'm anticipating a few mismatches.
Perfect! The "Reavis is Dismissed From School" Act is working! The Fools!
Don't tell them about those twin 4.2 forty, 7'2", 420 lb. safeties we're bringing in from Thelgetafftaya with football IQ's of 180 and who played Pop Warner back home.
This comment is so Leonard.
That's why I like it.
For that reason alone I think it's good that this will be our first game of the season. Reads like that require a lot of film study, of which there will be none. So for the first game at least, it might be harder to expose than it sounds.
Part of the mystique of Bud Foster is "sees how you lineup" doesn't equate to what happens after the snap.
On a not-directly-related note:
Re-watching last year's game this morning, two things stood out to me based on recent discussions had on this site:
1. Two pass interference calls on underthrown balls on like the very first series (a foreshadowing of ECU review, but already an issue in Columbus)
2. On the other hand, there was some success against the edge runs which shows some promise at keeping the backfield contained
So this is part of your morning routine too?
Shifting from swing shift to mids, so was up all night by myself at home. Reading 11w and TKP put me in the mood to riminisce, so I put the 1 hour YouTube version on and played some minecraft to sea awake.
take the "f"s out of that first sentence and I do not envy you last night.
A word smith!
One other observation that I will discuss more- Ohio State kept playing their cover 4, which was incredibly susceptible to rub routes in the flat (WR's running off the corners and the linebackers were too slow to get to the flat on running backs peeling out of the backfield) and deep in's and outs coming back to the football. Georgia Tech played cover 2, keeping a corner between the QB and the WR on those comeback routes and stuff in the flats- and bingo, suddenly VT didn't have an adjustment until against UVA where they started getting some action working vertically.
If Ohio State changes their MO and starts out in some cover 2, you can bet that Loeffler will run some four verts early to try and get something down field. The vertical passing game was an emphasis in the spring.
Yeah, they definitely didn't run all those gos and fades just for funsies.
Was it the spring before they ran all those veer's for funsies?
You mean the Motley package when Motley was looking like he was going to win the job and Brewer wasn't on campus yet? Probably.
Maybe its just me, but the VT MO towards going vertical for the last half decade has felt like: 1st and 10 on the first possession, hail mary. Don't try it again until the desperation last play of the game.
Then again, I'm just a frustrated fan watching a wasted throw away play in the moment.
The former OC's signature move, catch 'em off guard.
Hmm. No, I think you may have misunderstood. From my own reading, it sounds like we are stacked at both rover and free safety with significant coverage on all passing plays where running is expected.
Yes, that's what this says. Indeed.
In Bud we trust. He will work this out with the players left, moving on and "Next Man Up"
You do realize that you're playing in lane stadium, right?
Case in point: Clemson, 2006. They called a timeout on either their first or second play because they couldn't hear. We got LOUDER during the timeout. No mercy. That was a long time ago, but with a marquee opponent in town, expect the best of Lane's intensity.
He doesn't realize it's an enforceable rule.
On 3rd downs *(defensive), if you do not make as much noise as possible, you get thrown out and the next student in line is allowed in.
Visitors keep answering their cell phones because their ears are ringing.
I hear your concerns about Adonis, but I'm hoping he wins the job since he has the coverage ability. Is it easier to learn to fill gaps/tackle or cover? Whether it's Adonis, Reavis, or other, none really have much game experience, so you might as well take the risk with the guy with the most upside, which seems to Adonis. Hopefully he's hitting the playbook and video hard to seize the opportunity.
For the rover, the communication for setting the edge of the defense and the run support responsibilities are more critical than the pass coverage. Ultimately I am torn. I think Adonis could be utilized as a coverage rover specialist, however his future is at the boundary. I was very impressed with him this spring, as was I with Mook. I always worry about depth, however I think when Fuller and Facyson move on, those two will do a great job in their place.
This is where having an elite front 4 helps. They give us options we don't always have.
Also, Bud has had worse problems in his secondary. Think back to the injury woes with Kyle Fuller and Exum in 2013.
We still have an elite D and an improving O.
Best wishes for Reavis. If he made a mistake, hopefully he learns from it. Stiff punishments are sometimes blessings in disguise in the long run. He was a devout Hokie and will be missed.
I maintain that if Kyle Fuller stays healthy in 2013, we are a 9-10 win team and the number 1 defense in the nation. We were 6-1 when he went down. Finished the regular season 8-4. He was that important of a piece to our defense.
Great write up French. I appreciate your optimism and suggestions on how the coaches might fill the void left by CJ. But "let's be Frank";
1. Frye doesn't have the athleticism that we need on the back end
2. Riley is too inconsistent and he looks more like a whip in size and stature. If we have him one-on-one with Elliot coming out of the slot, we're in deep doodoo.
3. The youth movement is a reach at such a critical position.
I like the idea of getting "our best 11 players on the field", as Bud has said so many times. RVD has to play into that equation. Your suggestion of bringing up a bigger body and playing that 8 man front is more realistic, in my opinion, than the other options.
If he keeps the expected backup candidates mentioned above in, I give OSU +6 out of the gate, on top of Vegas' early odds.
Based purely on the spring game film, I do not disagree with any of these assertions. Mook Reynolds being on a Kendall/Kyle Fuller level as a nickel whip would free up Chuck Clark. At the same time, Clark was so good in coverage during the spring that moving him away from coverage responsibility is a big leap of faith.
The real question here is who is now the best dancer on the team? CJ was leaps and bounds better than everyone else.
"Competition's wide open this summer."
-- #sources
I haz the sads once again
No doubt about it, this sucks.
At the same time, If it had to happen, I'd rather it happen now than during the season, so there's time to make adjustments and get everyone familiar with their role.
When does this appeal happen? WTF?
From Bitter's writeup:
"Without discussing the details, there is an appeal process that we are going through at this point," Jimmy Turk said. "I expect that process to maybe exhaust itself over the next week to 10 days."
Unfortunately, it also said this: "Student conduct decisions may only be appealed in the event of a denial of due process, significant and relevant new evidence or unduly harsh or arbitrary sanctions that are not consistent with conduct or case precedent."
So the odds of a successful appeal don't look particularly good.
"only appealed in the event of..."
Unfortunately for the fans and speculators, we don't know what any of the "events" were.
This is probably his best bet. "unduly harsh or arbitrary sanctions that are not consistent with conduct or case precedent."
Sure, we have a clean program. We "deal" with problems, and don't sweep them under the rug (like some other programs).
But, it would be nice to see a "naively unrealistic" reaction from the board to simply reinstate CJ, just because he is a vital cog in the defense. Oh well, lala-land is nice place to visit sometimes...
UPDATE:
I don't know how I have missed it, and it is worth noting that nobody else has reported it. Der'Woun Greene was getting reps at rover against Ohio State last season. I don't even recall seeing Greene's name in print last spring, so he escaped my consciousness. Greene looked pretty solid assignment-wise around the line of scrimmage for about five repetitions during a 3rd quarter series. Jarrett came back into the game, and on his first play (a 3rd and 21) he intercepted Barrett. Barrett saw Fuller playing outside leverage and thought he could hit the WR breaking on an inside release. He never saw Jarrett coming from the middle of the field.