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"I believe Alabama can absorb two loses and still have the street cred to manage to make it into the Final Four of the college football playoff," Brando told Rick Ballou on radio station 1010XL in Jacksonville.
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Hey Tim:
But seriously, let them beat the drum for the $EC now. It will get old and tiresome come November. Let the teams play it out on the field and see what happens. Maybe a 2 loss team makes it. Maybe not. But let's not decide who's in and not already...
Isn't it already??
Yeah, but they are going to do it no matter. Let them do it now while very few are listening.
Heard the same shit last year.
Hear the same shit EVERY year
Its funny how quickly SEC Bias has turned into SEC Delusion.
This is a mixture of hilarious and disturbing.
In the right season, why can't a two loss team make the playoffs? I don't see 2-loss bama getting over undefeated Virginia Tech, but they may get in over 1-loss Clemson.
Yes, it could happen. But let's wait until November/December to make the call. It's not even August yet!
Put it this way... if everyone in the SEC finishes the year with 2 losses or more, and you have a pool of multiple undefeated and 1 loss teams, with a combination where 4 were undefeated or had their lone loss to a quality team in a tight game.... no, the SEC will be locked out. However, if you're talking about a 1 loss Boise vs a 2 loss Bama, Bama will go.
We're still in July, where every scenario is possible!
What if Clemsons 1 loss was to an undefeated Hokie squad in the ACC CG?
A man can dream...
That was the entire point of my comment. I guess it wasn't as funny as I thought.
apparently too clever for the rest of us
have a leg because apparently I'm over here like psychic Joe reading your mind. also, a leg above for the optimistic bold prediction of this year's results. speaking of which, when can we get a "2015 Hokie Football: Bold Predictions" thread going? Last years was quite amusing.
I see what you did there...and I like it
I can't see a two loss Bama getting in over a one loss Clemson, especially Clemson wins the ACC.
A two loss SEC team will not get in to the playoff if there are 4 undefeated or one loss P5 conference champions.
If there are multiple two loss conference champions, or a one loss team that lost its conference championship to a multiple loss team, then the SEC would be able to get a two loss team into the playoffs. This is a situation that we would've seen as recently as 2007 when Hawaii was the only undefeated team and the only one loss teams were OSU and Kansas. It also would have been very possible to see a two loss team make it into the 4 game playoff had existed instead of the BCS in 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2006.
I was going to make a comment about how if anyone was supposed to care what Tim Brando thought, maybe he should work for someone other than CBS. And then I read the article and saw he's moved to Fox.
I think Fox is trying to get into ESPN's face sooner rather than later.
My wife was asking me last night about different scenarios in which we make it into the playoffs, with the options being beat OSU, lose to another team or lose to OSU but beat everyone else.
I figure we HAVE to win the ACC regardless of the outcome against OSU. The biggest variable is how many losses other teams have, but our best bet is to either run the table or have one loss against the defending champion. If it comes down to us with one loss to an ACC team and an SEC team with one loss to an SEC team, we aren't in the Final 4.
I suppose if we beat Ohio State, we need Ohio State to run the table. If we lose to Ohio State, we need them to lose anywhere from 0-2 games. Just enough to get us ahead of them into the playoff, but not too much to screw up our schedule.
All of that is predicated on us running the table ourselves.
so what you're saying is we need to pound their QBs enough to win the game, but not enough to cripple them for the rest of the season
Yeah there's that too.
Assuming the rest of the conference winners are 1 loss or less, the only scenario I could see it happening is if a two loss SEC champ runs over a 1 loss conference champion. Like if Florida destroys FSU and they both take the conference.
Especially if FSU plays unconvincingly the rest of the year. I mean FSU was a 3 seed as the only undefeated team. There's more to it than wins and losses
I don't see how this isn't realistic. Lose early and consistently play top 10-15 teams. I wouldn't be surprised at all if a 2 loss team makes it from the SEC. Sure ESPN and pretty much everybody else likes to get on their knees for the SEC, but if they keep beating ranked teams, then I definitely see this as a strong possibility.
And those top 10-15 teams are all SEC teams, ranked that high in the preseason. And then they play each other so they can ONLY lose to top 10-15 teams, so they stay top 10-15 teams...
Yea I agree, I meant SEC teams when I said top 10-15 teams. Its kind of silly to think that the loser of the National Championship game could have 3 losses.
Brando is one of the biggest SEC homers on the net. Our beating Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, along with several other SEC teams losing in bowls, has taken a lot of the luster off the SEC. An undefeated or one-loss Ohio State is in, along with a 0- or 1-loss TCU or Baylor, a 0- or 1-loss PAC12 team (likely USC or Oregon). A 2-loss Alabama, even if it's the SEC champ, won't get the final spot over a 1-loss ACC team or another 1-loss team from the B1G or PAC12.
I wouldn't really go that far. They claim they want to put an emphasis on conference champs. I think any definitive Power 5 champs have a sort of decent shot of going, even if they are two loss teams. Especially if they have strong OOC wins. Especially if no one escapes the regular season unscathed. A 2-loss bama who beats Wiscy, wins the SEC, and barely loses two games could go if another Power 5 champ has an embarrassing loss.
You have to remember a Big 12 Champ isn't a complete guarantee since they might not have a "true" conference champion and one sharing the title with the team that lost to them might make them miss it.
Arn't they voting soon on whether a conference can decide to hold a CCG even if they don't have 12 teams?
Still wouldn't happen this year.
I agree completely
Especially if that 1-loss ACC team gave Ohio State it's one loss....
So essentially VT could lose to OSU in the opener and then win out and then we'll have a rematch in the National Championship for the best of 3 and the winner of it all.....I like it.
If we beat you in a close game, and we both then proceed to run the table, you can bet the farm that VT will be in the playoffs...
I would hope so. I was being a little sarcastic there though, sorry if it didn't come through in the post.
I'm HAPPY for Brando to be an SEC homer.
But it's WAY too early to be making those kinds of bets with anybody's money other than your own.
BCS? Maybe. But we have a playoff committee...where anything is possible. So who knows? 'Bama should never have been a one seed last year (which I said before the Sugar Bowl). That and putting FSU third really damaged the rep of the CFP committee for me.
Reg season losses are now less relevant. Winning your CCG is now clearly the gateway to the playoffs.
I wouldn't say less relevant. Primarily because with the way conferences are structured, 1 regular season loss could be the loss that keeps you out of the conference championship game.
The committee was saved last year in the sense that all 4 teams that won their conference were in. It will be very interesting to see what they do with a 1 loss team that perhaps doesn't even play for their conference championship
Overall point is that a 2 loss bama could very well win the sec and slide in to the plyoffs. So it doesn't seem like such a controversial statement to me once you let the air out of it.
I would love to see something like the following scenario (you can use any conference, I will just go with the ACC)
Lets say you have the following set up
Atlantic: Clemson 12-0 - ranked Top 5
FSU - 11-1 - only loss to Clemson (possible top 10 but at worst top 15 ranking)
Coastal: Virginia Tech - 10-2 - Top 25 team (loss to undefeated OSU and another non-GT team)
10-2 VT defeats 12-0 Clemson in ACCCG.
Which of the 3 teams, if any, gets a playoff spot?
Easy. The ACCCG winner.
The CCGs are now the de facto first round of the playoffs. Which is a big part of the reason the Big XII-2 is starting to come apart at the seams.
To me the more controversial statement is that TCU will get in over the acc champ without a CCG victory of there own.
I believe the actual wording says conference championship is to be considered, not necessarily the CCG. I think the Texas conference screwed itself by naming co-champions. If the conference can't decide which one should go, how can the committee? Not saying winning a CCG does not help, as it is another marquee win, but is not what is supposed to be the other factor outside of who you played. Also, the committee has likely heard from a lot people pissed the Texas conference did not get in, and would/should give them preference in a toss up this year. A clear 1 loss champion would probably get in over most 1 loss teams that did not win the CCG from another conference if that loss did not come to playoff bound team.
Nah... regardless of any wording, the Texas conference knows they need a CCG which is why they re-engaged their Conf. Expansion Committee... and also why OU is shopping around.