The fellow sportsfans over at 11 warriors are back at the Hokie bashing but apparently some fellow TKPers have infiltrated and are trying to be the voice of reason. I especially enjoy the score predictions as well as the OSU fans outnumbering us.......at home.
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good lord....felt like i almost had a seizure once this popped up
ohh what thread is it there? I want to read and laugh!!
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/ohio-state-football/2015/08/57416/how-exactly-are-the-hokies-going-to-score-on-us
C'mon, guys. Most of what's on 11W is pretty reasonable and they put out some really good content. Yeah, they've got some crazy homers, but who doesn't? Labeling an entire fan site as delusional seems uncalled-for.
Bingo!
If you look for things to be offended by, you're going to find it.
I once heard someone say that the definition of a college football fan is a person who is in a constant and persistent search for any signs of disrespect. :)
Nowhere is this more true then the stretch of forsaken earth between Pensacola and New Orleans. The Bammers are damn near intolerable.
The greeting there isn't "hello", it's "Roll Tide".
I know you're intending this as a joke, but it is painfully true.
Oh, I wasn't joking.
When I'm walking through an airport and I see someone with Hokie gear, it's an automatic, "Go Hokies!"
Me too, but a lot of times the other Hokie just nods.
It always catches me by surprise. I hear Go Hokies while out somewhere and I stagger for a second or two, then look around to find the person and answer them back. My default setting in public is that I'm no one anyone wants to talk to so no one is going to talk to me, unless to say excuse me if I'm in their way.
By the way, congrats on 7k legs.
This is me as well. I'm usually so off guard I can't think of what to say immediately... so I'll do a head nod, and then later think to myself "I should've said go hokies"
My default setting is that everyone wants to talk to me, but they are too intimidated by the sexiness to do so.
I'm the guy who comes up and asks, "Hey, are you a Hokie, or are you just wearing the hat/sweatshirt/Tshirt, etc. I love it when the person starts talking about it, but where I live, it's usually a child or grandchild that is going to Tech and the wearer is more of a "financial" Hokie than a fan. Sometimes, though, a real connection is made, if only for a couple of minutes in the Food Lion. It's worth the brushoffs to get to the few good conversations.
Since I didn't go to Tech does that make me a "financial" Hokie?
I'm curious as well...
Tell me more about these financial hokies
pretty sure what he means is the parent of a student, like my parents were ostensibly Hokies back in NV because they supported me and I plastered VT decals on their cars.
Whenever one begins a paragraph "let's make this simple" in an argument, it's pretty much guaranteed to piss of the reader if they happen to be on the other side of the fence. It was INTENDED to be an asshole-ish tone of voice, and it was.
Well yeah, that's exactly what TechHokie was saying, that's one person. There are delusional people in every fanbase, it just so happens Ohio State is one of the largest and they just won a NC so people are extremely confident, to the point of overconfidence.
Eleven warriors in general is an okay place.
Bingo.
Not disagreeing, but I don't think the intent of the article's title was so bash an entire website. On the other forum about TKP's comment section reputation on Reddit, I didn't take that personally, did you?
Did they just cut and paste this from Sept 2014?
OSU should win easily? .....they are the BEST?
What a bunch of hyperbolic bullshit.
This game is going to be hard fought and if either team wins by more than 14, I would call that an outlier.
And they are reigning national champs and #1 in the nation. Every others schools "delusion" is OSU's current reality.
True, but to be honest, Ohio State's fan base is one in which (during pre-season) every year there are proclamations of greatness and natties. The people predicting blowouts over a VT team that "doesn't belong on the field with the Buckeyes" would be saying that if we were 3-9 last year. It's just the nature of this particular beast.
They are also the guys who, at the first hint, start criticizing and wanting coaches fired when perfection is not attained.
Yeah, so they are college football fans.
Better than the unrelenting awfulness that are NFL fans.
HEY! The 49ers may or may not actually have a full roster at this point, but darn it all if they aren't going to the Super Bowl!!
And they aren't! ...because my Cowboys are!
...pls Romo...
I strongly dislike the NFL and it's fans. Totally different breed that college football fans. I play fantasy football but watch as little NFL as I can.
I wouldn't know. There aren't any NFL fans here in St. Louis.
I have no idea what you're talking about......
Question: ....is she old enough for me to be attracted to....?
My thoughts exactly.
Asking the important questions
linking to the entire site is not so helpful. Is there something in particular you want us to look at? If so, provide a direct link.
Fixed it. My bad.
How exactly are the Hokies going to score on us?
Again, that's one post from one guy - not even the staff - that's designed to bring out the homers. And to that, I say, "meh" and move on with my life.
Back the shit truck up buddy. Maybe my Title was a poor choice of wording that may have lead you to believe that I was bashing the site. Not my intention. Next time I will head it as - 97% of the commenters on the following thread that one guy wrote are delusional.
"How exactly are the Hokies going to score on us?" - Bud Foster everyday at practice
Completely unrelated, but every time I see your avatar a little voice screams "sweet berry wine!" in my head
Jackprot!
IM MAKING GRAVY BABBYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gotta worsh all your holes.
The link has been amended. I am at work trying to sneak it in.
Most of the comments are pretty logical in all honesty. You have a few guys going over the top, and a few more pointing out the flawed logic.
To be honest, doesn't look all that different from a typical thread over here. I like the 11W guys for the most part.
hahaha our o line yeah.. the receivers are sophomore's that absolutely lit up the ACC.
Plus: "They have a tremendous fullback - but tailback is a little iffy. "
Lol ok
Well, they're right about one thing.
FTFY
much better
you can have scoreboard, bro (12 months ago)...I'll take the National Championship.
We have a point (win last year.)
You have a point (NC last year.)
Sept 7 will break the tie.
anOSU will never win an argument about the game. VT won. No matter circumstances. VT won the game. No other games factored into the that.
I'll take 0-2 vs Ohio State for a National Championship.
Any day of the week.
And twice on Saturday.
The fuck does Wake Forest have to do with this convo?
tell me again how you are a nice bunch of fans?
You come talking trash about VT on a VT forum, what do you expect? Bring something to the table, we roll out the red carpet. Ask your fellow Buckeyes that have been around.
Seriously...
Had more than a few Bucknuts come over in recent days looking to start shit and then getting pissy when they aren't given the same home field treatment they'd receive on 11w.
As the game gets closer, anyone else have the feeling that certain people were volunteered to come over here, sign up, and post. Play nice for awhile, then the tone starts to change as we near Labor Day.
I have been reading TKP for almost a year (guess why?). I finally signed up because I wanted to join the conversation. I have said NOTHING to resemble a troll! I'm having fun and I have been giving out TL by the bunches. My goodness.
Now here comes the victim card...
I said it before, in another thread. Know your surroundings. Handing out legs, while friendly, does not guarantee anything. Participating with respect means everything. If you take offense to this, then I'm sorry. Notice it never said you aren't or haven't been respectful. Just that you are in a "neighbor's" house, so show some respect. When you, as a guest, post something that may be construed as not lovey-dovey towards our beloved Hokies, you will get some static. If it's at a level deemed egregious enough, you will lose legs. If that truly hurts your feelings, you are in the wrong spot. To further add to things, you guys did win the NC last year. We didn't. We haven't had months of euphoric celebration that goes along with yet another national title. Maybe we're a little jumpy. Maybe over sensitive. Maybe we are justified in some of our responses. (But an F word, about a non-common game opponent??? Really man?!) But, again, know your surroundings.
not claiming victim and I have shown nothing but respect. My comment to Alum07, was directed at him and i admit my words were poorly chosen. I'm not offended by Fuck, but when you direct it at someone you never meet especially at a lightweight comment (did I mention 3-6 :) ), i just sent a jab back is all. it wasn't meant for everyone.
eh..it's the offseason..people are getting bored and over-sensitive. The closer the game gets the higher tensions are going to be. When Sept 8th rolls around TKP and 11W are going to be the two worst places on the whole internet for fans of whichever team ends up losing.
I wasn't AT ALL!!!
Alum07 comes at me with "the fuck..blah, blah, blah" and that's considered nice?
I apologize to an Hokie fans that misunderstood. I do appreciate this site ans most fan sites are horrible. if you need to say the F word at someone, that's not too nice.
I'll just leave this here...
what does the rest of the ACC have to do with it either?
Well, OSU IS 0-2 vs ACC last 2 yrs...so there's that
technically they were freshmen last year.. but that's ok good effort
I stopped reading over there. They're the defending national champs, so let the homers be homers and say ridiculous things. Talk is cheap, anyhow. We will see how it plays out in Blacksburg. With the ridiculous amount of hype that has been built up around OSU, it's almost like anything short of absolute domination is failure for them. They have everything to lose, while we have nothing. I look forward to Labor Day.
Totally agree. I'd like to see VT win as the hunted also. The underdog motivation can only go so far for a program/season/game. To win a NC you have to be a killer. I love Frank but if I had to knock him somewhere, that'd probably be the spot.
You really don't see us run up a score very often anymore, which shows respect to a program but we rarely get our 2nd string in play... something I feel is a great opportunity
How about we don't get offended at every homeristic comment that's posted in a fan site? Eleven Warriors is a large website with a lot of Ohio State fans. Most of the forum is pretty reasonable, there are sour apples in every one of these types of sites.
And I bet a lot of y'all will be as confident after whalloping Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon. I know I would be (for better or worse).
We have just as many delusional people on this site as they do there. Well maybe not the same number but proportionally probably close. I, for one, get sick of seeing threads on this site that bash other fan sites for having confidence. Our people make threads like that too.
hear hear (or is it here here?). I cannot wait for the off season to be over. During the season, even bye weeks kill me waiting for something new to talk about/over analyze. Off season is just too much time and too little football.
Here Here!
Off season be like
This is why soccer sucks but is funny to watch all at the same time
SCOTT STERLING OHH !!!!!!!
You mean with the exception of LOLUVA.
Who's offended?
I, personally, am entertained.
One commentor pointed out something that I find particularly overlooked in every analysis I've read of the game thus far is:
Herman may have figured out how to combat Bud's system with inferior personnel by the end of the year, but Ed Warriner is not Tom Herman. First look at a new OC against Bud's system, advantage VT.
yeah but urban meyer is still there
True, and he is a very offensive minded coach. Heavily involved.
agree. his teams have never had a problem scoring and he's the common factor. you think about leaving willingham behind at Utah where he's been a great coach, McEwlwain (sp?) becoming somewhat successful, Heremanns (sp?) becoming a HC, and Urban just keeps on winning and fielding heisman quality players. it's not a coincidence, IMO.
Here's my response:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it. OSU, PLEASE keep up the cockyness (similar to the August before the last time we beat you). Impart it on your players. Let your players be cocky too. I don't just think they are delusional, I WANT them to be.
For anyone who's offended, why? We have nothing to be afraid of. The players and fans are coming to OUR house. The best things we can do as fans are the following:
1. Be good hosts
2. Show up and be loud
3. When we're winning and we're just about to start the 4th quarter, everyone should do the hokie pokie with a big smile on their face. EVERYONE.
And at that moment, you will REALLY piss off the Buckeye fans, more than any forum post.
Do you really think our players are going to take this game lightly with all of the haters talking about how we lost to you? Think they're going to take it lightly when there are shirts, memes, and other things saying the Hokies are the national champs, or Ohio champs? Ohio State players aren't taking this game lightly at all.. they want revenge.
As someone who had to listen to JMU fans say that they were the ACC champs the year we lost to them and went on to win the ACC, I can assure you that you would never hear such things come out of my mouth. And I would hope that most every Hokie fan would feel the same way. There is no disputing you guys are the National Champs. It was well earned.
Yeah, I know, rite? How dem Hokies gon score on the gr8est team in the werld? Dey could never, ever match up wit da Bucks, amirite?
Yeah, that's what I thought. Back to your hole, Bucknuts
but but but but
-"Eze's broken wrist making it difficult to send him out on patterns" haha
-We had a QB who hadn't played football for 2 years.. mhm wtf was he doing in practice the weeks leading up?
-Our O-line was young, and we had some drops.
-Their TE got lucky and should have been called a PI when he pushed off the get the ball.
four things happened after that game
1- they got brought back to reality and looked at the film and made adjustments
2- they didn't face a defense like Buds other than a weak attempt at Michigan State
3- VT got too cocky and our so called Mission was Accomplished after week 2
4- Injury Train left the station
Why would you make fun of OSU fans for making excuses and then go on to make excuses?
excuses where?? I don't see any excuses just FACTS
So having a QB coming off an ACL tear, a RB with a broken wrist, and starting 4 new offensive lineman... those aren't facts?
The fact that Elliot caught 9 passes combined in the next two games kind of disproves the first theory. I think it was much more of a case of Tom Herman figuring out who was good at what in games and how to best challenge certain defenses. I definitely wouldn't expect your OC to leave him in the backfield to pass protect all game again this year.
For the sake of argument though... we only truly returned one starter on our entire front seven last year and he was hurt, so...
I agree.. hard for an OC with an almost brand new offense to go up against a defense that no one expected. You guys had a brilliant game plan and executed it extremely well. You're defense is surely going to be a monumental challenge to overcome.
You are right, we should have a great defense, and barring injuries I believe we will. I still stay this game comes down to how hard our d fights and how much our offense improves from last year. Your team is a proven (although not this year), while half of ours is not. Not saying we don't have any talent, just that we haven't definitively proven how good our offense can be. Good luck to both teams, may injuries fear the wrath of Sam Rogers and Bud Foster.
So they're not afraid of Lane? Don't worry.
Size doesn't matter, its all about the energy of the fans. And man do we have some pent up energy especially after a long offseason. And to the crowd noise comment, we have consistently been ranked in the top 10 toughest college football stadiums to play in.
When they come into Lane, Bud will have something to say.
Size of the stadium isn't the end all and be all. That said Zombie Nation at Beaver Stadium just seems like it can't be beat. You guys rock it out but after overtime in Beaver Stadium last year most of OSUs players aren't going to lose their cool over the crowd noise.. luckily we won't have to have many if any freshmen playing.
Obligatory
I can only imagine what Enter Sandman is going to be like on 9/7...
Hold on to your butts
Yeah I've seen that already. Impressed.. yes.. Scared.. not at all.
I have mentioned this before but I swear I can't take them seriously when I read their website name and all my dyslexic brain can think of is this...
In a similar light, my brain goes to this:
my favorite recurring comment is how Brewer had the "game of his life" against anOSU last year. The man was 23/36 for 199 yds, 2 TD and 2 interceptions.
that's his 5th best completion percentage
7th best yardage totals
t 7th for TDs thrown
t 12th worst game for picks thrown
And yet if they go back and watch the film, for the most part, he was throwing quick reads to open receivers all game long. Only once did he really force it in there.
But hey, revisionist history is fun.
Just like we have a right to think it will be much much closer than you think.. I mean we did come into the shoe and beat ya'll last year?? but it doesn't work that way apparently.
I have no issues with them thinking they will win, but to discredit how we won and continue to make excuses is a little naive..
35-17 isn't a bad prediction as last year was 35-21.. I'm going 23-17
I'm glad you came over to visit....Did even read my post or anyone else's? for every "they can't score" you had at least one rebuttal from on Ohio State fan saying this will be close. I didn't even give a prediction, I just said 35-17 was a reasonable score vs 59-0.
you guys are getting chippy with 3 1/2 weeks to go. I think someone's getting nervous.
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You're mistaking confidence for nerves.
no... i'm not
Yes, you are.
We're confident.
You think we're nervous.
We aren't.
I will be nervous...My team will be confident....
by the loss of turkey legs I'm getting, it certainly appears I'm getting under some skin. Which would be attributed to some nervousness, I suspect. Have a TL on me
Annoyed does not equal nervous. I think thats the misunderstanding, you seem to not know what nervous means.
Don't shit on the floor of the house you're visiting and expect to be treated well by those who actually reside there.
In fairness the only post I've seen you get downvoted on is where you essentially said we're not a nice bunch of fans. "Tell me again how VT is a nice bunch of fans". If you don't expect that to get a downvote, on a forum of VT fans, I'm not really sure what to tell you.
You're certainly not losing legs on my account.
And if we're talking about the team's mindset now, don't worry, they'll be confident too.
I upvoted you to offset any losses. This thing will be played out on the field, and I don't think the nervousness of internet fans will come to play in it much. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain, so our position, as a whole, is more of anxiously waiting than nervous. I'm more worried about the weather and finding a parking space at this point than the outcome of the game. Should be a good one.
Nervous? What the hell do we have to be nervous about?
IF we wind up losing we will have lost to the defending national champions and the series will be even. Nothing to hang our heads about. If anOSU loses the national headlines will be about how Urban can't best Bud and Frank even if they are world beating national champs and how they lost to a team that barely made a bowl last season.
You say we're nervous? To that, I laugh in your face. We don't really have much to lose by losing, anOSU on the other hand...
We're the ECU to their Virginia Tech.
Exactly.
That's how I am before every game.
Although I think I'll be ok for this game for the most part because 1. we have nothing to lose and B. it's the first game of the season and not the playoffs or anything.
I'm both.
Ease up, man. Sometimes house guests are pains in the ass and sometimes you still have to be a gracious host.
I was trying to find a good 'obvious troll is obvious' pic, but failed.
But yeah, he comes in with a "tell me again how you are such good fans" and then starts trying to immediately talk trash after, and yeah... doesn't come across very well, if you ask me.
You come in like this and you knock ME down. I was referring to you when I was talking about the "good fans" which you are not. You use the F word a lot. you must not have much to say.
For the rest of the Hokey faithful, I certainly respect you opinions. I have yet to name call, predict ridiculous scores are display a potty mouth. Alum07 has done all of this except the score thing. I apologize to all but Alum07.
i find it funny you would think i'm crying...or are you crying at my half assed apology?
sorry :( Won't happen again.
For the record, I wasn't cursing at you. Would you have been less offended if I simply put 'WTF' instead?
And cursing is allowed on here, if you don't like it, that's on you.
not trying to be a pain in the ass. Just a poor response on my part. I'll do better to ignore "the Fuck...." comments.
we have nothing to lose in this game. the whole world ESPN and all has basically handed the game to OSU and expects us to just roll over.
Win- and the excuses will come out more, how did Foster outsmart Urban again. Braxton would have played better than xyz QB yadda yadda yadda
Lose close- well its the #1 team in the nation and they played a close game, lets get ready for ACC schedule and get to Charlotte.
i completely agree. probably similar to last year.
I did read your post Bro.. 35-17 is a closer outcome.. did I say it was bad?
then why copy paste my post from another forum? Unless you want to file this under the "good Buckeye response" section. I guess I didn't get your point.
agree, you're post was a good Buckeye response for sure.. so the comments below wasn't aimed at you or the other understanding OSU fans.. more for the 52-0 at halftime Bro's
I dont know about anyone else, but nervousness is just not remotely a feeling I have when thinking of this game. I have personally witnessed this situation more than one time for us: USC 2004, Alabama 2013, both of which were the #1 team. As well as many other terrible openers for us (most of which were at FED EX field, ewww). Basically, been there done that. We do not have a good record going against the number one team in the nation for our season opener. Period. So for me at least, this doesn't lead to nervousness. Quite the opposite. I am ecstatic to finally have the number 1 team, and defending champs, come to our house for a change. Instead of some neutral site. The whole day is going to be a spectacle, one which I cannot wait to participate in. I am very grounded in the reality of how the game may go. But nervous? Nahhh.
I agree with the thrust of what you are saying, but my understanding of QB play has evolved to where I think the most important thing is making the throw or play at the crucial time. Not all throws are of the same importance. A perfect pass for 5 yards on 2nd and 8 is good, but that 10 yard completion on 3rd and 7 that keeps the drive going - in the face of a defensive rush that knows you are throwing - is what separates good QB play from great QB play. In my opinion, Brewer made some really, really great throws at very, very crucial times in that game. On the other hand, a QB can have a high completion percentage, throw for a lot of yards, and not throw any picks, but if he misses on those crucial throws, he is not playing well. FWIW
I agree with you 100%. Brewer had a great game when you look at the tape. A mediocre game by the numbers. It's a killer for the defense when they hold the first 2 downs and force a 3rd a long only to have it converted repeatedly.
Somehow this reminds me of Joel's top ten series, and a few misses by a certain defense I'm a fan of...
I think this is an astute point. I'm rather bullish on Brewer for this reason. It wasn't just the OSU game where he made these types of plays. He did the same thing when the season was on the line again UVA with a dislocated shoulder. In the 4th quarter of the BC game out of 4 drives he lead 3 TD drives (the D lost that game). For all the crap people were giving him, Brewer (at least to my eyes) seemed to keep showing up in the big spots.
If you ask me (and I know you didn't) but I think a lot of the reason why Brewer struggled the rest of the season was quite literally because Bosa knocked the everliving hell out of him at the end of that game and it caused lingering issues for the remainder of the season.
There's a reason he was tabbed early to be our starter. There's a reason that Chad Morris pushed for him to sign here when Clemson didn't have a spot for him. There's a reason he did what he did against Ohio St last year, and why nobody really acted surprised that it happened. And there's a reason there really wasn't a QB position battle this spring after he quickly distanced himself from everyone else. I personally think he's a lot better QB than he's given credit for, and it'll show this year if he can stay healthy.
And he did it with a questionable OL (Teller wasn't playing early in the year), freshman WRs, freshman RBs, and a r-freshman TE. Oh, he also did not have a spring practice and had very little time to learn the offense and build chemistry with this teammates.
He has now had more time to digest the playbook, he has built chemistry with the skill positions, the skill positions have more experience now, and the OL should be better.
I'm not expecting Brewer to be a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady for the Hokies this year, but I do expect him to have a very solid year.
Two quotes from two pretty good coaches come to mind that apply to evaluating QB play:
"You are never as good as you think you are, and you are never as bad as you think you are." Lou Holtzth
"The QB is a product of those around him." Urban Meyer
Anybody remember that glowing article about Brewer and our offense that ran on SI after the OSU game last year?
Having trouble finding the link. But yanno.
Yeah 3 TOs isn't exactly "Game of his life" quality
You know, in watching Bitter's video of Coach Beamer taking questions the other day, I thought I gleaned a little bit of something. Now, we all know Beamer is the master of coachspeak, and he always keeps things at an even keel, usually heaping a good amount of praise on the competition. In his answer to one reporter's question about whether a big game like this is motivating (duh), he had some of the most candid and, on the surface, somewhat sarcastic remarks I've ever heard from him. Paraphrasing, he said something to the effect of, "I don't think we've ever played a number one team that has been SO number one before...I was watching them on the show the other day, and I almost had to turn it off...started to get frightened..."
This falls in line with some of the quick wit and humor we've seen from Beamer this summer in interviews. I honestly think he wants this one BAD. He's probably tired just as we all are of hearing about how this team is invincible and will cruise right on through us. I also have no doubt the staff and players are using ESPN's comments and other internet fodder as bulletin board material in the locker room. I think we're going to see a very focused and aggressive VT team come Sept. 7th. Let them talk, and we will see what happens on the field in Lane.
Frank with his "frightened" face:
We...will...be...ready...
Where there's a will, there's a way...
If the Scarlet and Grey's are so confident why don't they bring that giant lip stick looking trophy with them to Blacksburg and put it on the line? :P
you would love that lip stick trophy....it's been called the vagina trophy as the football design on top looks similar.
Like this?
I like this guy
A basic google image search will prove that statement wrong.
Google searches notwithstanding, I've heard/read the female-anatomy metaphor about as frequently as I've heard the cosmetics one.
I too have seen it bandied about ad nauseum. Which always begs the question, "has this person ever actually SEEN a vagina??"
That's what she said.
They must be married...
I wish it were like the WWF.
Who is holding "the belt" right now anyway?
To answer my own question: TCU.
She's hot.
oh man....mean tweets is awesome
If only there was a way to settle all this talk. Like some type of athletic contest between the two teams that took biased opinion and hyperbole out of the equation. My stars what a thing that would be to behold!
Maybe some sort of foot race? Or lifting challenge? That would be neat.
nevermind...
They should settle this like men. On a field of football.
Listening to Andy Griffith speak makes me wish I'd held onto my Appalachian accent a little stronger.
You should have. I lost mine a little bit while in Florida for 4 years but now that I'm back in NC, the accent is no longer a negative tell on my intelligence, but an indicator of trustworthiness for my coworkers and the public that I deal with.
Thankfully I haven't lost it completely. It'll still show through in some words and figures of speech.
Now, when I'm around my family, really excited, or drinking, that's when it really shines.
That's good to hear. My mother in law went to great lengths to make sure my wife didn't have any sort of accent, but when she gets smackered it comes out and I love it.
Ya got me wantin' another Big Orange! This album was a staple in my house growing up.
I love that comedy monologue Griffith does (What it was, was football). Great reminder. I'll have to give it another listen.
I think we can "Settle" it....
(how am I the first one to recognize this obvious pun situation?!?!?!)
there comes a point where overconfidence ultimately becomes self-delusion. i think our Buckeye friends have reached that territory already.
i'm so numb by their condescension/arrogance/(add your synonym here) at this point that i just ignore what's coming out of their mouths. when Labor Day arrives, it's game on...
Found a comment on that thread that links to this thread about that thread.
Didn't read a lot, but only thing that sort of ruffled my feathers was how they portray the B1G stadiums/crowds to be in a league of its own. Not taking anything away from the conference as a whole, but Ohio Stadium at its peak wasn't anything out of the norm. Prior to, I'd only heard about Ohio Stadium, so seeing it in person was underwhelming - fans seemed even almost bemused that they had to play us.
Which makes me happy they get to come to Lane and experience an opponent's venue outside of the B1G...
Edit: Poor composition in my previous screenshot. Trying to point out the fan sh*ttin' his pants around Hokies fans.
which one are you?? please tell me the one with the headband going absolute H.A.M.
Haha no, just a screenshot from the Enter Sandman video
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuude.... whyyyyyyyy would you post a pic from FedEx Field?
I was in Cbus for the game last year and the general fan attitude seemed to be that we were like an FCS tune-up game for them.
Someone, maybe french maybe alum, equated it to the battle of bull run (i believe) where the people came out to see a "sporting fight" between the north and south with picnic baskets and all. What they saw was the reality of war and death. People ran aghast of what they had just seen in the midst of a union retreat. Sort of like how buckeye fans entered the game and then left (although to our nice buckeye fans on this site, I'm sure you guys didn't retreat out of the stadium but you get my point....yank).
I bookmarked the thread. Will be checking back on September 8.
Why?
In any result, we (hopefully) will have moved on.
it will just be fun to see them in full meltdown mode
This thread has taught me two things...
1. The game is soon
2. The game is not soon enough.
That is all.
This ^^^^
Pure gold.
After reading some of the comments on this post...
its so...so high def. glorious.
WADR I don't think it's delusional when you consider that they smacked Wisky, 'bama, and UO to close out last season, and they return something like 13 preseason all-americans. As far as Lane's atmosphere, consider that (a) they've never been here, (b) it IS small compared to a lot of other stadiums they have been to, and (c) our home-field advantage has all but disappeared over the last several years, and it makes sense that they're disrespecting us. It'll make all the sweeter when we go back there on 9/8 to read all the "what the hell just happened?!" posts. :-)
Players don't get as overconfident as fanbases because they actually play the games.
Nevertheless, they're not immune to some level of the same sort of thinking. Let's hope that will be the case for the OSU players on Labor Day. Again.
On this side of it, you would hope that the fact that their only loss last year, and their most recent loss, would produce a great deal of respect for the team responsible for that loss. Assuming the Buckeye players are of reasonable intelligence, I'm not thinking disrespect/taking lightly, and similar BS is going to be one of their problems.
Maybe.
But they've also had a ton of smoke blown up their a-holes the last 8 months...much of it earned, some not. You hear enough of it and you can actually begin to believe it. Florida State went into last season under similar circumstances and expectations -- pre-season #1, returning Heisman winner, lots of future NFL talent returning, great recruits to fill departed players -- yet while still a very good team, they never really clicked the whole season like the previous season.
I'm of the opinion that revenge as a motivator often lasts about 2 plays. But just a little overconfidence can last an entire game (or even much longer).
Here's a question...has an OSU team ever seemed overconfident going into a game with a not-great Michigan team (or vice versa for that matter) and ended up struggling or losing?
I'm not saying it's unique to OSU; it's happened to every team (well almost, it's unpossible for UVa to enter a game overconfident).
Oh, hell yes. The most famous one is OSU winning the National Championship in 1968, beating Michigan 50-14, and then in 1969 losing to Bo Schembechler's 1st year team in Ann Arbor. Broke my 11 year old heart.
Holy crap, are you in this picture???
Alright, let's just get all of it out of our systems right now and have a moratorium on threads like this. Please? We really don't need to point out "delusion" among the fan bases. We're all ramping up to the opener and we're all quick to pull the trigger on disrespect among everyone.
Huh, that sounds familiar. Some clever person wrote that once.
I only read this thread to
make sure you @ssholes stayed on topicno that's not itsee that everyone provided interesting commentary and insighthell, that's not it, either... you didn't treat each other like a pack of rabid UVA fans fighting to get into a Ukrop's that claims to have a special on Zima. Yeah, that's the ticket.Stuff like this just breeds sniping at one another. Now if someone writes an article that breaks down strengths and weaknesses of the teams and provides fodder for interesting discussion (did they get it right? miss the boat on anything?), I'm all aboard. But I'm bowing out of this one, unless I need to flash the badge if things get beyond a bit of sniping.
The reviews of Saturday's open scrimmage can't get here soon enough.
I really do hate to point this out, but it seems that Zima has been discontinued. What will we do to replace Zima zingers?
Oh, duh. My bad. And even worse, I realized just now that Ukrops doesn't sell alcohol anyway. Sorry to be such a dolt.
Ha, it's all good bud. That line was one of my more obscure jabs, on a couple levels...
Obscure? Nah, clever, as usual. I was off my game, what little I have.
I miss Ukrops, best job I've ever had and loved shopping there. Whitehouse rolls, chicken, rainbow cookies!
Sorry but that was one of the worst sh*t jobs ever I had. Btw, Martin's still sells Ukrop's products.
What timeframe? I loved getting paid birthday off, paid yearly anniversary getting a week of pay extra every year there is HUGE for a part time job.
Ukrops doesn't sell much anything anymore, they were bought out when the younger Ukrops generation decided to sell the company instead of keeping the wonderful supermarket chain we Richmonders loved for generations going strong. Don't get me started on the whole feeling of betrayal thing please. One tiny benefit of living in Peru, not daily seeing the former Ukrops stores anymore.
Sort of like how I hope the anOSU fans will feel on Sept. 8th, unquenchable disappointment overlaid with profound sadness at what has been lost.
You can buy some Ukrops products in Krogers around the country now.
http://goodmeadow.com/our-products/
Im sorry, Im being a dick here, but this kills me every time...
Krogers around the country, implies multiple Kroger(s)
Daiquiri?
Outnumbering us at home???
That is the most delusional thing said so far. Scores, who's gonna do what, to whom, how, how badly, all conjecture and defensible as "opinion". Delusional, however, is thinking they'll have more people in that stadium than we will. That could, perhaps, venture into crazy, waaay beyond delusion. Let's stop this here and now. AIN'T AGONNA HAPPEN!!
That being said, if I am offered 1k per ticket at the gate, I will take it this time. Last time I was offered that was the game against Miami with Marcus. I wish I had taken that money.
Yeah, we're not going to outnumber you. The problem is that OSU is used to showing up at away venues in huge numbers and taking over a stadium, usually against mediocre teams with blase fans. Not gonna happen with you guys. You're passionate about your football. As an example, here's a game against Cal, at Cal, a few years ago.
Bay Area huge alum base, and great and easy city to visit. Blacksburg has none of those things.
We drew 99,931 for our spring game intra-squad scrimmage this year. So we're used to big numbers. But as I said, it's not going to happen against VT.
Yep, I lived in Ohio for 7 plus years and Cbus for 4 plus, I went to several Buckeyes games including a spring game. AnOSU is a huge school in a Big metro area where almost anyone in the state can get to the stadium in less than 3 hours. That's not the case for VT.
Welcome Vet, thanks for the service, leg. That is rather impressive, and embarrassing for Cal at the same time.
Thank you. Could you help me out with something? I saw a post somewhere postulating that OSU might get a respectable number to Lane Stadium partially because classes had not yet started and students would be selling their tickets in fairly large numbers. Is that true about the start date for classes, or is that just internet hot air? Thanks in advance.
P.S. Thanks for the "leg" - just figured those out today!
Classes start August 24th. And even if students sell their tickets (which I doubt more than a statistically insignificant number would), you have to have a VT ID to use them. Y'all should still have a metric fuckton of people there regardless.
As stated before me, classes at VT start on Aug. 24th. So the student base will most certainly be around.
I can also say, with MUCH confidence, that EVERYONE is hungry for tickets to this game (seeing students post on various social media all the time asking for/where to get tickets.) If you have em you're practically a celebrity around here. The whole fan base is pumped for this game.
Not only will classes have started, but Tech won't have classes on Labor day for the first time in a long, long time. Student tickets are already selling for around 150$ just to other students that didn't buy season tickets. It's safe to say the current Hokies are going to be pumped for this game.
Yeah, we know how that is (as away fans, that is)... We've made a history of taking over Wallace Wade (Duke) and Kenan (UNC) in the past. Let's just say there's a reason that the UNC administration has been actively going out of their way to prevent tickets falling into the hands of VT fans in recent years (not that it has really mattered, but I digress)....
My goodness I hate that stadium. And the fan base, and really everything about those hippies. Maybe it was the eggs, bottles and random things on fire that were hucked at me last time I was there, but I really didn't get a great vibe from the fans. It was funny seeing pictures of a giant crack through their stadium after an earthquake in 1989 though.
Can we PLEASE stop using the word "delusional"? I mean, it's a cool word and all, but ya gotta mix it up every now and then. Allow me to present some synonyms:
Overconfident
Overexcited
Mistaken
Unrealistic
Presumptuous
Hubristic
and my favorite, Cocksure
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaadef
So last year Ohio State had the #2 S&P+ defense and VT had the #88 S&P+ offense. We held Oregon to 20 points after turning it over 4 times, they were the #3 S&P plus offense. Is it really that delusional to think you guys will have a hard time scoring?
Yes people predicting OSU to score 40 are (somewhat) delusional, yes people saying OSU will bring more fans are delusional(and either stupid or trolling hard), but if you call us delusional for thinking you will have a hard time scoring.. time to look in the mirror.
Not only is that not delusional, I think it's VT's biggest concern going into this game.
And conversely OSU scoring on VT is OSU's biggest concern. Surely we have fans claiming we'll score in droves.. but I feel like we have to find away to win those 1 one 1 match ups in the passing game. I don't think we'll be giving up 7 sacks this time though.
I'll be surprised if anOSU doesn't give up some sacks.
OSU will give up a few 1-3 but not 7+. I expect the Hokies to give up some sacks as well.
So 8, then? 9? I think that sounds terrific.
Man, game day can not get here soon enough!
I believe the delusional comments come from the OSU fans that believe that you guys will win by 50 or whatever. A tough fought game, yes. I see no more than a 14 point winner in this. Same as last year. Early on I didn't think we'd really have a chance to win but would still be able to keep it respectable. I'm getting more and more confident however. I don't know if that's the practice reports that I've been reading or the multiple moscow mules I've had tonight. But again, VT has nothing to lose, unless those delusional fans are proven right and we pull a 2007 LSU and embarss ourselves. It's nice to hear level-headed fans on the other side though. Obviously you guys are still the favorites and I'm not sure we'll win but I do believe it will be competitive and we'll have a chance to win. If we lose I won't be heartbroken. We can settle the tie-breaker in the National Championship game.
Heard the same thing last year...
Sorry, but these claims that we are going to struggle on so hard ring very hollow after what we did in the Shoe last year.
Wow okay.. It's not like you guys lit us up by any stretch of the imagination and our defense is much improved from game 2 of last year.
Sure dude VT is going to have an easy time scoring.
You're right, VT isn't going to necessarily have an easy time scoring, but the VT offense was working pretty well in last year's anOSU game.
Remember though, you guys never had a lead on us.
That's the most surprising stat to me, to this day.
VT's namesake for the last, oh, couple of decades has been a ball control offense (ie shitty but adequate), a stifling defense, and good special teams play. If we could break into the top 25 of a handful of key offensive stat categories and connect on the other two, we would have a very special team. It's difficult to look at the metrics of our offense alone and play stats against stats. We struggle to score against everyone. We do, however, try to limit mistakes and play the game on our terms. In terms of OSU, we had some matchups last year that created some scoring opportunities for us. Those matchups should carry over to this year, and if executed properly I don't think it's insane to think that we couldn't score offensively, particularly with your best defensive player out. Whether it's enough, I don't know.
I think this year we will put some pretty talented skill players on the field that could certainly give us some offensive weapons. We also have a line that seems to be improving and a QB that has actually spent a year in the program. I for one feel a lot better about the offense this year than the one that we fielded last year. Last years unit, of coarse, was the one that scored 4 touchdowns on your defense. If we score 28 offensive points again, I feel good about the outcome. If not, I dunno. It's gonna be a tough game and I don't see anyone running away with it. I certainly see OSU scoring 40 points much easier than VT (not gonna happen). But I could also see a situation similar to last year where we disrupt your offense and sustain enough drives to force OSU into some difficult positions. If the game is played on our terms, I think we win. If OSU establishes the run and gets up a few scores, it probably won't fair well. Go Hokies regardless.
Last year, Brewer was king of the clutch third down conversion. There was a certain kind of magic there.
I'm pretty sure this won't be a repeat of last year. Both sides are going to make some pretty sizable adjustments.
True, there were some magical 3rd down conversations. However, when you look at the box score, our second quarter scoring drive only had one 3rd down conversion (a 15 yard completion to Malleck on 3rd and 3), and our fourth quarter scoring drive only had one 3rd down that was converted via an OSU penalty. A lot of the magical conversions, save the two first quarter drives, did not end in points and didn't have a huge effect on the outcome of the game other than momentum. I think we just matched up well against their defense, particularly with Malleck and Byrn in the slot. I'm sure there will be adjustments, but hopefully this year we don't have to be 3rd and long Sally to stay competitive.
A lot of the magical conversions, save the two first quarter drives, did not end in points and didn't have a huge effect on the outcome of the game other than momentum.
Now you go too far. Momentum in that game was everything. Plus, if your offense is on the field, your defense is getting rested enough to do their jobs. Don't underestimate the effect of those third down conversions, even if they don't result in points.
I totally agree to your points. I just don't want to package the win like we kept pulling miracle 3rd down conversions out of nowhere all night. We were 9-17 (53%) on the night, which was a lot better than our season average of 39%. If we maintained 53% all year, we would have been in the top 5 nationally. 39% put us around 77th. It was a good performance where we executed well and stepped up when we needed too. I think the bigger statistic is that our defense held OSU to 4-16 on third downs. If we can get close to those totals this year I really like our chances. In a perfect world, we wouldn't need a 3rd down conversion because we would score on 1st down. Not gonna happen, but we need more big plays this year.
Ohio State's defense made significant improvement over the course of the season last year. Of course I think VT will score an offensive TD.. will it be 4 or more? Possibly but I don't see it happening. If you guys win the game it will be because of your special teams and defense playing lights out.. possibly scoring 1 or 2 tds and putting your offense in good situations, and Ohio State's defense in bad situations. Just like last year. OSU had 2 scoring drives, 86 and 83 yards, longer than VTs longest scoring drive, 65 yards.
Case and point. Defense and special teams provide opportunities and limit the need for an explosive offense. Defense and special teams, coupled with an offense that protects the football, helping to minimize or increase the difficulty of the opponents offense scoring points.
On a side note, did your field goal unit progress through the year? I know your kicker really struggled in our game last year and it had a big impact on momentum let alone the score. A couple of missed kicks on either side could be the difference this year.
He was adequate. I think he improved, but that's a gut feeling more than a stat I can give you. The truth is Urban doesn't attempt many FG's anyway. I don't remember Neurenberger being put in a situation where he had to hit a crucial 43 yarder. You would expect a sophomore to be better than a true freshman. We'll see - or maybe we won't. If the choice is going for it or kicking a 43 yard FG, Urban almost always goes for the first down - but maybe he did that because he didn't trust the kicker.
Regardless, I don't think the kicker will be a factor. Ohio State comes into this year's game with few Q marks on offense. The VT defense last year could focus on pressuring a rFr QB in his 2nd game and stopping up running lanes trying to be opened by a suspect OL and an unproven RB - and none of the receiving corps caused any great concern. This year there are many places they will have to pay attention to, and that creates an entirely different challenge and will result in playing differently. I think they will be aggressive and pressure, especially when the down and distance dictates, but I also think the number of threats on the field will cause them to play less risky on down and distance that doesn't favor them. If I were Foster (and clearly I'm not) I would focus on stopping the RB and QB run and take my chances with the passing game.
You are right on in your assessment, as Foster has made it clear that his gameplan is to stop the run and make you beat one on one matchups in the passing game. It's a high risk high reward strategy. We have really struggled in the past with mobile quarterbacks running on broken plays. This is typically set up by a threat in the passing game running all the defenders off in man coverage. If you guys can establish a consistent run threat and score on a few big plays, it could be a long night for the Hokies. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. No doubt your offense if dangerous as hell. We'll have to execute efficiently and limit mistakes to pull out the W. If you guys jump on us early I could see you pulling away. If we hang in there and prove we can match up who knows. It's a tough one to predict. Hopefully we can all shake hands afterward and congratulate a good game regardless.
Wasn't one of the OSU "drives" a long pass?
One thing I think that OSU fans miss among the talk of young offensive lines and not being prepared last year is that while OSU certainly has a lot more talent across it's entire roster (god forbid, I would not want see a 2's on 2's battle), VT's starting 22 both last year and this year was/is much, much closer to OSU's starting 22 than I think they realize.
Yes, OSU has a ton of future NFL draft picks and arguably has the most talented starting 22 in the country, but VT isn't exactly lining up with MAC or even mid-level Power 5 talent. There are probably no fewer than 11 future NFL draft picks in VT's starting 22 and maybe more (and a few more not in the starting 22 but that will get significant PT) when it's all said and done.
I'm of the belief that both teams playing this labor day should be better than the the teams that lined up last September. Sure, if OSU plays their A game, they probably win. But if they don't and VT brings it's game, the talent gap early in the season is small enough in the starting 22 that VT can win (and did last year -- on the road).
Now if this game was being played in November and both teams have lost a few starters to injury, VT's ability to match up talent wise would drop considerably and OSU's margin for error is much bigger.
Gosh I hope we win, because after how some of our fans are becoming, there's no way I'm coming near any VT forum for a week if we don't win.
This is all I'm gonna say about threads like these:
My response, ScoreBoard
After reading this thread I came to this:
College football fans are very passionate. An adverse opinion about your team will likely ruffle some feathers, even if you know it might be true. I welcome all level headed Buckeyes to the site, but the arguments here are the exact reason why I don't visit other teams' fan sites.
Agreed. We need football. And some crow and toothpicks for the unfortunate losing fanbase (crosses fingers...)
I hear you. There are those guys who are "F you, F your team, and F everyone who looks like you or your team."
But my experience is that if you are courteous and respectful, there are plenty of people on almost every forum who love CFB like you, and it can be very fun and informative. I've made some great friends over the years. I got invited to a Longhorn forum back in 07 (I think), and when I flew to Austin to watch Ohio State play Texas the next year, those guys fed me like I have never been fed before, they made me cancel my hotel, and then they fought over who would take me home and take me back to the airport. We had a great time - especially me. The Bucks won that one. :) But we are all still great friends, and I've had similar experiences with a variety of other fan bases.
I've found that people are people, in the good and bad sense, no matter where you go.
I hope you find the same experience if you come to Lane this year, and if you don't I hope you don't hold it against the fanbase as a whole.
I agree that people are people. Most fans are courteous. There's just something about hiding behind a screen that brings out the worst. I enjoy talking to other fans at games though.
I can't come. Life has changed for me so much lately that I really don't have time to travel to away games. My work is 50 hours a week or so, I have a 17 month old granddaughter who Pop-Pop has to see, my wife and I do pre-marital counseling for our church, I volunteer as a mentor to troubled young boys through our juvenile court, and my dad was diagnosed with Alzheimer's last November. Any spare time I have goes to babysitting dad, and handling my parents' issues. It's funny - my wife and I raised two kids and are empty nesters, but we find ourselves essentially parenting and caring for 2 more people. Not complaining. It's a privilege really, but I guess I assumed there would be a period of care-free time after the kids left. Not so.
But if all that wasn't going on, I would guess that I would be there - if I could procure a ticket. I can be in Blacksburg in about 6 hours. Not a bad drive at all, and the scenery through W Va and Va is great. I always enjoy it.
There's been lots of talk about how many Buckeye fans will show up. It will be as many as can get their hands on a ticket - plus probably a few thousand that will show up for the heck of it. Buckeye fans are ridiculous in that way. If 50,000 tickets were available, they would buy them all up. How many actually make it into Lane will depend on how much money Hokie ticket holders want to make. :)
Had mine up for 10,000 but no takers yet.
Might want to cut that price a little! Take a zero off and you would probably get some takers. :)
That's how much I want to make though. I see there being 5-8,000 anOSU fans at the game and maybe 5-15,000 more around Blacksburg/Roanoke but between the season ticket sellout, the mini plans and student tickets being hard to fake your way in as a non student there is not a lot of tickets for anOSU fans.
Well said. One of my favorite takeaways from last year was hearing the chatter here about how great the OSU fans were. Hope we can return the favor. Two good teams, two great fan bases.
We have our percentage of idiots, but we do try to police it. And I actually think this whole topic & thread wouldn't have existed if the OP at 11 Warriors had been a little more careful in their headline. Think about how it would have read if instead of : "How exactly are the Hokies going to score on us?" it had been posed as "What plays do you think the Hokies will use to score on us"?
The most unforgivable thing is the use of the term 'V-Tech.' Who the fuck is V-Tech!?
Vtech is an electronics company that makes childrens toys and cordless phones. They are cheap plastic garbage. Now you can hate us being called that even more.
Still better than Vah-Tech
Anyone else just here to look at the pictures and gifs or is it just me?
They're defending national champions. They're going to be confident and rightfully so. But assuming that they're going to smack around a team that returns 3/4 of their starting lineup, including an incredible defense, that beat them by 2 touchdowns on the road last season is a little ridiculous.
OSU is a bad match for VT. Their offensive strengths play right into our defensive strengths. Doesn't mean they can't beat us handily, because sometimes that just happens, but more than likely, this is a grudge match and it's going to be a slog for both teams.
I'm an 11W faithful, but you guy's supreme confidence does make me nervous. Lane seems like it is going to be absolutely insane, and you have a lot of starters returning. That being said, I think Ohio State wins this game. I know defense is your thing, but our offense just has so many weapons. Losing Bosa sucks, but I have full confidence in either Sam Hubbard or Jalyn Holmes filling in for him. Obviously they're not going to dominate like he can, but I think they will fill the role excellently. I think you guys have a legit shot to win the ACC, and maybe even make the playoffs if you keep it to 1 loss.
For the record, you sir are the exception to the 11W guys I was referring to. I appreciate playful banter between opposing fans and you have exhibited a level headedness that was lacking in the thread I read. Thanks for the visit and good luck to you this season.
I would say, for the most part, any of the anOSU fans who have visited from 11W have been "the exception." The ones who haven't have been down-voted into oblivion
That post from Eleven Warriors reeks of overconfidence and entitlement...which plays right into our hands. NO ONE said we had a chance to beat AN Ohio State University last year. We did. Beamer seems to do his best when we are the underdogs who have 0 chance to win. Am I saying we are guaranteed to win?? Absolutely not! Neither team is. But I give us MUCH higher chances than those guys at Eleven Warriors do.
Ultimately, I think our hunger, dissatisfaction, having the world against us, and experience under everyone's belts is giving us an edge. Of course Urban Meyer will have his guys prepared, but I trust Beamer and Co. to have their bunch ready as well. He isn't the winningest active coach right now for nothing. Not to mention the fact that we have the best home crowd in the nation!!
SUPER pumped about this game...Labor Day can't get here soon enough.
wow... so much of this entire thread has me itching to pull out the Squirrel Summary Report. But then I read more and it comes back from the snippy comments and into respect land again, then back again, then back the other way...
in the end, it's pretty much a standard shit talking thread between two fan bases. I think the OSU fans here, including BeerPooBah who got downvotes, are all being highly respectable. I do question BeerPooBah's line of reasoning when making a point. Specifically calling out our record or losing to wake, because nothing matters but the night you play each other. We can't take a transitive National Championship anymore than they can take a transitive win because we lost so spectacularly bad against Wake. None of that matters. It doesn't matter if anOSU was a better team later in the season. Doesn't matter they opened several cans of whoop ass on tier 1 talent. Doesn't matter who we lost to either, or who we won. This is football. We win or lose on a single night. We won, they lost. That simple.
IMO historical debates on what happened last season are baseless now. Let's talk realities of what's gonna happen on Sept 7. I'm not sure if the new OC for the Bucks has ever faced Bud before, but Foster typically is extremely difficult to manage for any first timer. I think this is going to be key, because it will be a game of adjustments. On offense we just need to move the ball and capitalize on the gifts our defense gives us. IF we can do that it's going to be a close game. Sprinkle some dork magic so pussy touchdowns are not denied and we pull out another win.
You had me at dork magic and pussy touchdowns. Well done sir, well done.
I understand my downvotes, but to be fair the title of this forum would indicate a purpose of shit talk. the title of the 11W forum that started this would also invite some shit talk. How will VT score was the topic and I post one of your scores. I though that to be relevant.
Indiana put up 27 on the Bucknuts, which was the most points they scored in the last 6 games of the season. Since that was a November game late in the season after Ohio State figured out the puzzle and all that jibber jabber... I don't see how the Hokies wouldn't score at least that many points.
(See how that works??)
Indiana beat the SEC East Champions, Missouri. The WF game was also in November.
FTFY.
Careful Poobah doesn't respond well to that acronym...
Seriously though, sorry bout yesterday TBP, you're good peeps
no worries. I should display the thick skin I expect other to have. I really don't know why that put me off. anyway, we need CFB! I guess I picked a bad week to quit sniffing glue
I wish I could give you multiple TLs for that GIF. possibly the funniest part in one of the funniest movies of all time. see you Monday at work!
Glad you're following. Indiana beat Missouri in September, yet a main tenant of the Buckeye assured blowout argument is that September games mean essentially nothing. So we can ignore that anyway.
Yes, the Wake game was in November. It's been suggested that VT's struggles in that game combined with anOSU's defense improvement is evidence that VT won't be able to score. I pointed out that if the Wake game matters so much for VT's 2015 offense, shouldn't a game even later in the season against Indiana count against OSU's defense? As I said, that was the most points scored by Indiana over their final 6 games. Or does that just mean the other 5 teams that held them to fewer points have top 5 defenses and OSU is barely behind the curve at #6?
It is the topic, but using a single, or any, performance(s) in last season to exemplify expected performance this season is not relevant. If that's all it took then I just need to bring up the score of OSU v VT and the argument is closed.
It just doesn't work that way. Too simplistic. College football has never worked that way. If that's all it took then our performance two years ago should have dictated we lose to you last year. Fact is we came away with the upset last year and there is at least a minimal chance of VT doing it again this year. And that's what makes college football great. The unknown any-given-Saturday event that we all clamor for. So like I said, you shouldn't have been downvoted but you're line of reasoning is askew.
But for sure this is a shit talking forum, so no worries.
A few points:
- I don't really care what OSU fans think. They're confident in their team and they should be. They had one hell of a run last year and were by far the best team at the end of the season (TCU and Baylor fans probably have something to say).
- Fans of other teams are going to make assumptions on this year based on last year's performance. It is completely natural when you don't follow a team. I think VT will be a much different and better team this year. More experience across the entire offense and a defense with a ton of experience and talent. The VT team that beat OSU last year was not the same team after. Brewer played injured, we had serious injury issues at RB, and the freshman WRs made some freshman mistakes.
- Personally, I love it when the opposition underestimates us. Most OSU fans are underestimating us and I hope the guys that actually play the game are doing the same. VT plays so much better as an underdog.
- OSU deserve to be favorites for the game. Defending National Champions with a ton of talent. The odds of them winning against us are pretty good, but that's why the game is played. We were overlooked last year and we all know what happened.
- It is going to be one HELL of an atmosphere and I cannot wait to be a part of it.
Okay, so now that this is at 250 comments, I feel justified in saying who the hell cares what our opponents are saying? They have every right to be confident. They won the National Championship. We have every right to be confident as well. We return most of the players that beat them last year. In the end, it's the frickin' offseason and we're all getting way too anxious for the season to start. We're both 0-0. Everybody is the preseason champion. In the end, fans can think whatever they want. They can make excuses or talk a big game, but it all has no bearing on the outcome. If someone else saying that their team will win bothers you, you probably shouldn't talk to other teams fans or go to their website. It makes us look bad when threads are created saying "11Warriors is saying mean things about us." I can't imagine they are doing the same.
great, now can Joe just delete the post and we can pretend this never happened?
Yeah I wanted to respond to that post but it reads like an 11 year old wrote it so I thought better
Man.
This thread has shown a really ugly side of TKP.
kind of agree. I remember when the Bama guy came on and was doing his thing. We all laughed along. he was condescending and confident as hell. But we had a great time with him. he was a lot more arrogant than any OSU fan on the boards to date. hell, at one point we had a lolUVA fan on here that was fun to talk to as well.
I get that they are from the opposing team, but all this delusional back and forth, and pile of downvotes for stating something non-offensive is not so cool.
The lack of self awareness is just SO strong (on both sides) in this thread.
Pretty sure the offseason is reaching critical levels (if we're not there already).
As good as OSU's offense is, I think they score in the high 20's or maybe low 30's at worst (but hopefully less of course).
At quick glance, it looks like only 3 times has anyone ever scored over 30 points in Lane Stadium vs a Bud Foster defense (dating back 20 years). No team has scored over 40 at Lane Stadium against a Bud Foster defense...
Maybe someone can fact check me. I just quickly skimmed through past schedules on hokiesports.com while at work
conveniently precludes counting the Miami game. I like it.
Unfortunately, in our 4 home losses last year, we gave up 27, 28, 30, and 33 points to teams far inferior to the buckeyes. I'm excited for the game and think we have a chance to win, but let's not go cherry picking stats to make us look better, ok?
That includes the Miami game last year...
No attempt to cherry pick. I only cherry pick in basketball
I'd feel a lot better about your assessment if the Miami game had not been LAST YEAR.
Also if the Wake Forest game had not been LAST YEAR.
Do you feel Ohio State will score over 40 points?
I will admit I'm a pretty delusional person myself but on the hokie end of it. I've already made a bet with my buddy (A Florida fan) that if VT wins that I get 30$ and he does my hw for two weeks (still a senior in high school) and if anOSU wins that I have to run a naked lap around his place of choosing
You might want to make sure your friend doesn't enjoy it too much if he wins....
...Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Oh don't worry me and my other buddies always joke with him about that... but nah he said he's gonna invite a crowd of people if it happens so I'm really puttin faith in our hokies this game...
better hope he doesn't read TKP or he might get ideas...
One thing I am finding very interesting throughout this discussion is that often the same people who say we can't take anything away from last year because Ohio St is a different team than when we last played are the same people who are saying we can't expect anything because of the nature of the losses to Wake and Miami....
You can't really pick and choose which parts of last year you want to disqualify to suit your needs.
I get what you're saying, but we all have to make predictions based on previous performance and estimated performance. They can look at running the table (after us) and make excuses for why the beginning of the season was their low point. We can look at losing a lot of games by less than a TD and make excuses for why injuries derailed us as the season went on. They can be optimistic because of talent returning and so can we. Generally, I'd say most people will look to early season losses and discount them a lot more than late season losses. It's just how it goes. I mean, we got to the Sugar Bowl in 2005 because voters/computers discounted our losses to USCw and NC State at the beginning of the season. If we'd dropped a game to NC State the week before thanksgiving, you know we wouldn't have been BCS bound.
I think this will be a close game. I remember being excited and blindly optimistic when we played LSU back in 2007. We all know how that turned out. I'm excited and less-blindly optimistic for this game. Part of that is knowing we have a good defense. Part of that is confidence that we won't have an inept offence AND they'll be breaking in a new starter in Bosa's place which I've got to believe gives us more wiggle room.
Just one quick point...we would have still gone to the BCS the 2004 season regardless of when we lost to NC State.
That's was an automatic bid for winning the ACC
Personally, I don't want to disqualify any of the games we played last year, and instead, try to reason why it happened that we can go into the Shoe in Week 2, and play like a well oiled machine out of the gate and then all of the sudden begin to regress over the remainder of the season. In my opinion, there are 3 big factors at play that lead to our decline over the course of last season.
I agree that Ohio St got better as the season went along, and I agree that had we played them at the end of the year, we would have been slaughtered. But that does not mean we can't beat them now. We are a completely different team than the one that ended last season. By the end of last season, the roster we were fielding due to injuries had the depth of a squad who would have thought making a bowl was the program's biggest achievement in a long time. That's not the squad that will be taking the field on Labor Day.
But selective criticism and blind eyes are the heart and soul of the internet.
Please, we all know that there is no way VT could be an improved team from the one that defeated OSU last year because....reasons?
Just a few thoughts to share with fellow CFB fans:
1. Thanks for welcoming me here yesterday. I've been lurking here since last year when 11 Warriors linked to an article you had posted analyzing OSU's key plays. Great article & spot on.
2. Other than your weird color scheme, this is a GREAT site with good commentators. I come here because of all the VT sites I scouted out last year, this was the one that is the MOST like 11W. And as a long-term 11W member, I mean that as a compliment.
3. All fan sites have a ~5 % idiot core that can be frustrating. But I have noticed that you do a good job of policing your own (as we also try to do).
4. The game against VT is the second most worrisome game on our schedule. First? Michigan State. They're very good, they know us, and they want revenge.
5. I'll post sometime soon the reasons why I think OSU could win, and the reasons why I think VT can win.
6. I've learned that you don't like being referred to as V-Tech. So noted.
7. I'm a veterinarian, not a veteran. Sorry about any confusion. Never had the honor of serving my country.
Welcome aboard. Looking forward to your thoughts on the most important factors for both teams if they want to leave with a victory; those are the kind of threads that are interesting and spark good discussion.
Just want to say that I have enjoyed your posts and your perspective, welcome! And as far as being a veterinarian, as an animal lover I still thank you for your service! :)
Sorry for the assumption. Guess I should have known by the Groucho quote. Looking forward to the insight.
Since I didn't get the chance yesterday, welcome! Glad you've enjoyed the site (it's ok, I'm sure you Bucks are used to the pretty bland gray stuff, but we do what we can) and I wholeheartedly agree that 11W and TKP are very similar. I wish all college sports teams had such great fan sites. The world would be a better place. A couple notes on what you wrote:
The issue this thread "addresses" is simply accuracy by volume. OSU has a huge fan base, therefore their 5% will be greater than our 5%. Just the way it goes. Ignore the crazies and move on.
So help you if you address us as "Vah-Tech." Freakin' nails on a chalkboard, that one.
I live in South Carolina and myself and a carolina fan were talking about the upcoming season. He asked me something about Vah-Tech and I'm guessing the strange look on my face stopped him. I asked him why he said it like that, but not Gah-Tech? His answer..thats how they say it on TV. Those fucking guys.
Those at Georgia Tech do say Gah-Tech. They may not say it on TV, but the folks there say it.
Gross
I know. I was shocked when I first heard it and even mentioned how I never thought anyone said Gah-Tech and they said that they use it frequently, especially when referring to their @gatech.edu email addresses.
I guess growing up in middle Ga. I was exposed to more fans of them dawgs than GT, so I never really heard it much.
As a veteran myself, I applaud your choice of professions. I have certainly spent enough money on my animals in the past 40 years to buy you a nice boat, if not more. While it is certainly an honor to have served your country, I personally thank you for your profession's expertise and compassion for me and the four legged ones who have been the only kids I've ever had.
Thank you! I must say, the right person found the right profession in my case. LOVE my job & still going strong after 30 years at it.
As you likely know BuckeyeVet, VT is the home of a pretty decent College of Veterinary Medicine. Point in your favor sir. As a person who has had the privilege of serving Uncle Sam for 20 years in the USN and DOJ, no apology is necessary, you sound like a great American.
I look forward to reading your posts on the reasons for OSU and VT's chance at pulling out the win. Personally, I find the idea of beating an Urban Meyer team with this much talent twice in a row a real long shot. My biggest hope is that your new OC is not able to install his entire system and is forced into a one-dimensional passing attack after being unable to pickup first downs on the ground. Turnovers could then decide the game, and VT has a rather fantastic history at intercepting passes over the past 2 decades. Without winning the turnover battle by +2 or better, I don't see VT winning.
You're spot on. And your school has an excellent College of Veterinary Medicine!
Wow is about all I can say about this thread right now. Let me clarify a few things if I may. As it was pointed out to me early on in this thread my title was worded as to seem that the entire 11 Warriors site was "delusional", which was not my intention. My utmost apologies to any level headed OSU fan that may have felt slighted. I joined this site to get my Hokie fuckaround on with other like-minded individuals. I hate that some have perceived that I may have done this with intent to bash an entire website or forum community. My feelings and words were for the (here it comes) delusional fans that predicted an OSU fan turnout greater than the home team, the 50+ - 0 halftime score, and the runaround guys stating make believe facts. If any Buckeye is reading this and you think VT does not stand a chance on Labor Day, J T Barrett walks on water, Urban Meyer shits unicorns, Joey Bosa breaks bricks with his cock, or OSU simply cannot under any circumstances be defeated then YOU sir are the one I was referring to. To be fair there were a few individuals on 11W that had very good points about the upcoming slugfest for both sides of the 50 and I value and recite their opinions in conversations about the game to my friends and anyone that will listen at this point. Rant over.
@ Deegooch - I understood where you were coming from by following your comments after your original post. No problems here.
P.S. Btw, Bosa is doing hard time in Meyers doghouse now, breaking rocks with his dick.
This thread is like buying bread from a man in Brussels....
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It looks like at least one person on here can speaka my language
I've been known to chunder.
We better run, we better take cover.
Oh! Do you live a land down under?
The bottom-line is that OSU is an 11pt favorite in Vegas right now and that is totally reasonable. OSU fans thinking it is going to be a blowout are nuts considering our D is our strength and OSU has unproven (or suspended) WRs and has not named a starting QB, and VT fans thinking that it's a sure-fire upset have not watched our offense play in 3 years.
Both defenses are extremely tough, but VT can influence OSU's QBs into mistakes. If Elliott rushes for 100 yards then VT is in trouble, but our front seven is stout and OSU will have to throw the ball (at least a couple big plays) to win. If VT's offense lays a turd like normally then OSU will win the game, but if we can hover around 300 yards of total offense then we'll have a realistic shot.
You wanna try that again? Possibly triple that?