Collin Carroll discusses how much cash athletes were pocketing in old scholarship system

Former Virginia Tech Long Snapper Carroll breaks down how much he was making while on campus.

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He mentions that as a football player, his "hourly wage" was estimated to be $34.12.

In pure spending money (no food/rent/etc), he estimated roughly 12$ a day just for being a football player.

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I love the laugh at $450 a month for rent. Now that might be a bid misleading as I'm pretty sure Collin meant per room. My apartment there was a two bedroom at $700 a month. It was a great location, but also a dump.

I know back in the day you could rent a 4 br suite at HR on N. Main for around 1200. Looks like it's up to around 1600 now.

Good affordable housing is available if you don't mind having roommates.

Shoot, I had a 4 BR in University Terrace for $880, had a running lease for like 8 years so they kept the same rental agreement somehow.

I was always jealous of that spot

Crying? There is no crying in Baseball...

what year was this? i graduated in 2012 and our rent for my senior year was $1,200 a month for the same set up at UT. what i would kill to pay that cheap for rent again...

$700? Man, we only charge $650 for our two bedroom basement apartment and it's two blocks from Goodwin Hall. It's not the nicest place, but hardly a dump. We need to rethink our pricing for next year.

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It was 650 year one and 700 year two. It was on Houston Street so it was right by campus too. I could pick up the wifi from that international center.

that is a great location. My wife lived there when we were in school. Really easy to get there from my dorm. Killer walk to classes, though.

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I get a little over $800 for my three bedroom unit off South Main.

i live in a one broom on N main for 450 in 2007

i live in a one broom on N main for 450 in 2007

While I forget the name of the place I used to hang out pretty regularly at Collin's apartment up off of North Main. However given that area of town that it was located in wasn't really the safest part of Blacksburg, it probably wasn't that expensive per person. I remember him and his roommates chose the place because they knew it would be cheap and with guys like Collin, Justin Meyer (pretty big for a kicker), Mike Via, and David Marone (heavy weight wrestler) living under one roof (with a lot of guns) they felt safe enough. Oh and their other roommate was a powerlifter and now works with Gentry training the team.

Using /s is for cowards.

Hate to be a robber walking into THAT house.

"We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behavior" Stephen M.R. Covey

“When life knocks you down plan to land on your back, because if you can look up, you can get up, if you fall flat on your face it can kill your spirit” David Wilson

I can't really say that there has ever been anywhere in Blacksburg that I wouldn't feel safe going.

I actually did social social work (sociology major) during my undergrad and it would surprise most students some of the communities that exist on the fringes of Blacksburg. Specifically the amount of poverty that persists once you leave the popular parts of town is somewhat staggering. With that said Blacksburg proper is pretty durn safe.

Using /s is for cowards.

I grew up on the fringes of Blacksburg, near many of those communities. I'm well aware of the poverty that exists outside of people associated with the university. Perhaps hanging out with those people growing up has colored my experience, but like I said I wouldn't feel unsafe going anywhere in Blacksburg as long as I wasn't trespassing. I guess my point was that poor people aren't scary while trying not to be confrontational about it.

As a side note, a lot of the poorer areas that existed when I was growing up have been dwindling in recent years as people get priced out of the area and end up having to move to Christiansburg.

Completely agree. Also I probably should have articulated a little more meticulously but when I said...

"Specifically the amount of poverty that persists"

...I was turning the point of discussion from unsafe areas toward another unrecognized demographic in Bburg (more impoverished communities). As I mentioned I worked very heavily in those areas via my school work and some with extracurricular charity work and I knew I was always safe in most of those communities (partially because they are very similar to the community in which I grew up in). In as much I had no intention of implying any sort of correlation between the two very separate demographics. Just awareness of the latter and all that jazz.

Using /s is for cowards.

I lived on Green St. Also pretty cheap. Is your user name for Intervarsity@VT?

Would you like Prys with that?

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Stupid, the rent you guys were paying. At Terrace View, 77-78, we were four of us in a decent two-bedroom joint paying $55 per month. Might be old, but I was debt free back in the (real) day.

"The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. " Rocky B.

Some thoughts:
1. Can anybody find Carroll's article for the CT?
2. I kinda chuckled at the "non-liquid" benefit of "protein shakes".
3. Do NOT google the phrase "protein shake".
4. Interesting that he was voted "Least Popular" on the football team for writing the article.

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4. Interesting that he was voted "Least Popular" on the football team for writing the article.

I got the feeling that was an attempt at humor rather than an actual thing.

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Thanks! Have a research leg on me.

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Collin is awesome...would love to see him get a permanent radio/TV gig

Probably can guess who the "deep thigh bruise" player was.

It would be interesting to compare these statistics and numbers to other schools. Wasn't it about a year ago that some former running back for a power 5 school said that he used to go to bed hungry or something?

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That was Shabazz Napier, the basketball PG who single handedly took UConn to the national title.

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

You right, you right

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Five acres, 4 bedrooms, 2 baths - $1100 ($275 each)

Also, the owner was a landscaper, so he did all the yard work.

Farmhouse in Giles, four bedrooms, lots of land around, $50 a month, split four ways. Commute sucked, barely heated, but I had a heated waterbed and a fireplace, so what if I could see through a few cracks in the wall. $12.50/month to live in the country, suited me fine at the time.

Edit: '72-'75

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heated waterbed

If nothing else on this site has dated you, this just did, haha. I've heard that once the waves start going it's hard to make it stop.

"We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behavior" Stephen M.R. Covey

“When life knocks you down plan to land on your back, because if you can look up, you can get up, if you fall flat on your face it can kill your spirit” David Wilson

That's part of the plan, and a lot of the fun! At least when you're 22 years old.

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Ah, Giles man, before the single wing. They actually won some games during that period.

And that was an exciting time for Virginia Tech football. Would have got to see Don Strock in his Air-Henning offense (6-4-1 I think), Bruce Arians with hair, and the transition to Phil Rogers leading Jimmy Sharp's version of the wishbone (8-3 in '75).

"The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. " Rocky B.

Yep, I was around for all that. Strock was definitely all that. Giles has definitely run with that single wing, though.

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The debate has never been about "how much are athletes benefiting from the football program". It's been about "how much SHOULD athletes benefit from the football program".

Well put. Knowing this information just gives people on either side of the debate a better understanding of the situation.

Well it should be... but a large portion of the debaters don't acknowledge many of the benefits/value from their athletic opportunity

My answer is - enough. They're getting paid enough. They don't need my tax dollars to get paid more.

However, if they want to go out and do an Ad for a subway sandwich (too soon?) or something else, let them do that themselves. I don't care about that. I care that my money is going to pay someone who already has innumerable benefits bestowed upon them from the university / state, and is clamoring for more.

I took issue with R. Sherman's rant about one of us trying to live the "student-athlete" lifestyle. Uh - yeah. People do it all the time! AND they do it without the free-bee's he got. Work 1-2 jobs per week AND have a rigorous curriculum is not something only the hallowed "student-athlete" at Stanford has to go through.

Please let the season begin...BS has been going on since dirt.....everywhere.

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