Playing the Prodigy, What to do With Dwayne Lawson?

The Hokies have a quarterback of the future for the first time in years. How will Beamer Co. manage his playing time and development?

Freshman QB Dwayne Lawson runs off the field during his first college football practice. [Mark Umansky]

I have to admit, I didn't realize it was so close.

Despite working a day job that requires me to talk about sports all week, the start of the college football season snuck up on me. Instead of spending the summer, obsessing over potential redshirts or who could fill the back end of the wide receiver rotation, I was focused on things that were actually happening in my everyday life.

My girlfriend and I moved away from Blacksburg and crammed all of our belongings into a fourth-floor walkup in the middle of Richmond. The apartment's great, but the four flights of stairs? Not so much. Let's just say move-in day left us lying on our kitchen floor trying to summon the strength to lift a beer bottle.

(Okay, confession: it only left one of us sprawling on the kitchen floor, and it was me. This is really just a PSA so that none of you want me to help you move. Ask my girlfriend, she learned the hard way.)

Not too long after that, we added a third member to the household. That's right, we brought home a little Hokie!

Don't get ahead of yourselves, we adopted a dog. Can someone please head to my parents' house in Blacksburg to make sure they're both still alive? I may have just caused a panic-induced heart attack or two.

Needless to say, I've been busy these last few months. So much so, that I simply looked up one day and noticed that fall camp was starting. Of course I jumped in to my Hokie obsession head first, desperately waiting to over-analyze the next Snapchat from VT Football after day one.

In one of those Snapchat binges, I caught my first glance of someone who I'd almost forgotten about. It took me a moment to figure out who No. 2 in a non-contact yellow jersey was, until it hit me. The highest touted quarterback prospect in nearly a decade is finally on campus.

Thinking back on it, it's hard to figure out how I forgot about Dwayne Lawson. The four-star dual-threat Tampa product was the bow on top of a respectable recruiting class. Signing Austin Clark was nice, and Tim Settle was a huge addition (pun intended), but it's not every year that the coaches in Blacksburg go out and reel in their signal caller of the future.

Lawson's promise is exciting, and I've already heard people wonder aloud whether or not he's already the best player at his position. Chances are, these thoughts won't go away. In fact, if history is any indication, Lawson's perceived ability and ableness to see the field could be a point of contention all season long, especially if Michael Brewer struggles.

However, let's take a step back before we jump off the deep end and declare him ready to lead the offensive rejuvenation in Blacksburg. Playing the 6-6, 222 pound true freshman not only carries drastic implications for him, but for the rest of the team as well. And while forming your own hot take is fun, there are three questions that must be considered before rushing to judgement.

Question One: How will this impact Lawson developmentally?

This is probably the most important thing to ask, because not only does it have ramifications on 2015, but the future as well. Throwing in a quarterback before he's ready can be absolutely crippling for both school and player, and could set both back years. It's a huge decision to make, and the sign of both a great coach and a mature kid to know whether playing is the right call.

It's not like we'll know come Ohio State. Lawson's game is almost a complete mystery outside of his performance in two public scrimmages. And with game preparation underway, practice is locked down tighter than the plot of Star Wars VII.

A solid showing in mid-August is enough to encourage both fans and coaches alike, but it means nothing when another FBS team comes to town. He might be ready to play in the ACC today, or he may unravel the minute a linebacker comes on a blitz. I doubt it's either extreme, but only the coaches know.

We can't predict what large amounts of early playing time would mean for him down the line with any sort of certainty, because that's different for everyone. We can, however, look at the track record of recent players in Lawson's situation across the country. A while ago Football Study Hall did a deep dive into every true freshman passer who threw at least 100 passes between 2008 and 2012.

The list is up and down. Teddy Bridgewater, Robert Griffin III and Matt Barkley all made their way to the NFL. According to everyone but the NCAA, Terrelle Pryor went 31-4 as a starter, and Braxton Miller was on his way to a potentially historic run with Urban Meyer and the Buckeyes pre-shoulder injury.

But the rest of those guys? Most of them fall between mediocre and cringe-worthy.

I'm not saying that there is a direct correlation between starting too early and a disappointing career. But when you look at that list, the number of freshmen whose eventual tenures left fans wanting far outweighs the number of highly successful draft picks.

If you wanted to go further, we could even look at the four years Tyrod Taylor spent in Blacksburg. Frank Beamer planned to redshirt the iconic Hokie on multiple occasions, but reneged each time, leading to 24 months of everyone's favorite QB rotation.

Taylor spent all of '07 and '08 swapping in and out of the lineup with Sean Glennon, barely evolving into anything close to a college quarterback. I love Tyrod as much as the rest of you, but take a serious look at his freshman and sophomore seasons. They weren't great, with just over 1,900 yards on 55% completions (6.5 yards/attempt), seven touchdowns and 10 picks. Just thinking about it makes me want to slap Bryan Stinespring and Mike O'Cain with a malpractice lawsuit.

Instead of having time to work out some of his kinks and bad habits, he reinforced them during his role as a "playmaker" and didn't get markedly better until 2009. And while it's easy to take Taylor's performance as an upperclassman for granted, it really was a testament to how hard he worked to improve.

So back to the question, can a player who starts quickly succeed at this position? Yes, especially with a smart implementation plan. But that's a fine line to walk, and if not pulled off properly could have drastic long-term aftershocks.

In each of these examples however, there is one constant: true talent almost always overcomes in the end. Bridgewater, Griffin III, Miller. etc. were all simply better than many of their peers. If Lawson is as good as he's supposed to be, seeing the field shouldn't be a problem. It's just not something that should be taken lightly.

Question Two: How will this impact the team?

Beamer and Loeffler's decision over Lawson's fate will resonate well outside the quarterback room.

The Virginia Tech offense has all the makings of a better unit, but is still looking for both explosion and consistency. With Isaiah Ford, Cam Phillips, Bucky Hodges, Trey Edmunds, J.C. Coleman and the intriguing Travon McMillian all returning, the explosion part seems to be on the rise.

Everyone I just mentioned could help take this offense to a place that it hasn't seen in a long time. But of course, that depends on who gets them the ball and whether or not that person can do it with regularity. Dynamic skill players can only go as far as the man under center allows (cuts to Georgia Tech-era Calvin Johnson passive-aggressively glaring at Reggie Ball.)

From everything people close to the team will tell you, Michael Brewer is ready to take on that responsibility. They say that the Texan is not only ready to improve off of a rocky first year, but has grabbed the reigns of the group, just like you would want your quarterback to do.

Now whether or not that's a good thing is really up to your interpretation of Brewer, and whether or not you believe he's capable of growth. Considering he began his career taking Hokie Nation back to the mountaintop (winning in Columbus), but dragged them across a wasteland (almost every other part of 2014), skepticism is understandable.

Hokie supporters jumped off the Brewer bandwagon in droves, and haven't really climbed back on yet. Not so coincidentally, many of those same people will be calling Lawson's name should the team struggle out of the gate. And while I've chastised the Leal and Motley fan clubs in the past, should the Hokies be as anemic as last season I may join in the calling. Lawson could provide the spark that the group is looking for.

But what if the incumbent is improved? What if he really is one of the most respected voices on the roster. Go back and read our own Alex Koma's article on Brewer from the ACC Kickoff. If what he's saying is true, then the other players sound like they've bought in. A decision on potentially replacing the senior would then extend beyond performance, and into the chemistry of both the offense and the team as a whole.

I won't delve into the terrible cliches about the necessity of field generals and fiery leadership to will a team's way into the win column. But having someone in the huddle that holds the respect of everyone else in there with him? It can't be discounted, and is also something that would presumably take more time to develop than Lawson would have.

If he is going to play in 2015, the best-case scenario may be in some sort of package. Something that could add to what Brewer brings to the table, but not result in a full blown competition, like Florida's use of Tim Tebow in 2006.

Starter Chris Leak was by no means a fan favorite, but still far and away the UF's starter. Tebow played enough to placate all of the rabid Gator followers calling for the former all-world recruit, but at the end of the day, Timmy T was an effective red zone weapon, a change of pace that complimented Leak's skills, but by no means a threat to his job.

Lawson can be used, and used intelligently, should the coaching staff need him. It would in no way undermine Brewer, just give Tech a little more explosion near the end zone while still keeping the team's leadership in check.

He could also see much more time than that, which may get complicated. Remember 2007 and 2008? Each guy yo-yoing in and out without ever establishing confidence, all the while their teammates picked sides? Yeah, not great for anyone. And if not carefully handled, it could be the result here.

Question Three: Would this decision be made for the right reasons?

Let's run through a hypothetical scenario:

The Hokies perform as expected in September, beating who they're supposed to beat. A 3-1 Tech team then drops two out of their next three (Pitt/NC State/Miami) to find themselves at 4-3 heading into the back half of their schedule. The offense doesn't look bad, but doesn't look good either. Brewer and company show flashes, but not consistently enough to hold up their end of the bargain with the defense.

While this is depressing and not the way many of you imagine the season going, it's starkly realistic. This could happen, and one version of it or another (ranging between 7-5 and 10-2) probably will.

Should this be the case, think about the position the coaching staff would be in. Not only are they concerned about the product on the field, now they're starting to worry about their jobs should things not turn around. Loeffler's already on the thinnest of ice, and his head coach isn't on much more stable ground.

But you know what has saved many-a-coach's job? The promise of a bright future as they break the glass around a talented young QB. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, but it feels like it happens annually across the country with whatever staff is on the rocks. In fact we saw Beamer do this last year, without Lawson on the roster.

A defiant Beamer tried to stress the positives, but even he understood the deeper meaning to Thursday night. "I think we're really going to be a good football team next year, and that's kind of where we are," he said in a postgame news conference.

I know it's hard to think it would come to that, but I saw the look in Loeffler's eyes as he walked to the bus in Winston Salem. Fresh off a performance where his guys failed to score against one of the worst teams in college football, the offensive coordinator seemed tired, angry, and although he'd never admit it, a little desparate.

I'm not saying that Loeffler would stoop to this, he's a professional and someone who's gone through the ringer before. But is it at least fair to question the intentions of the team's decision makers should Lawson get tossed onto the field in late October with the team hovering around .500? I'd say so. Would he actually be a better option, or someone to prop up as a shield to block discontent from fans?

It is definitely the cynic in me asking these questions, but they're not absurd things to think about. When multiple coaches' positions (and careers) presumably rely on the next four months, it's tempting to do anything they can to put a positive spin on the year.

And while Lawson seems to have the talent to provide bright spots in a situation like that, it's never one in which you want a true freshman to come up. Even the most talented of players can get bogged down in dysfunction, and should that chain of events play out there would be plenty of it to go around.

Would it hurt him or the team? Maybe, maybe not. But it's a question that can't be answered until it happens. And unfortunately, none of this can be addressed until Lawson has actually seen the field in a college game. But when will that happen?

2016?

2017?

Two weeks from now?

We still don't know. And assuming the Hokies don't announce a redshirt in the coming days, we won't know until Labor Day evening. By then, hopefully Beamer, Loeffler and everybody else in the decision making process can come up with a fair and reasonable answer.

If not? Get ready for a long and unrelenting debate that will be impossible to overlook.

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You guys are the experts. But from what I think I read and the limited film I've seen he's going to need more time than to be thrown into the fire this year IF a crisis happens. Motley has the tools and can get us down the field if Loeffler uses him right. That said I agree Lawson has the potential to terrorize opponents.

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Not have a RS Senior TT cost us probably our best shot at a MNC since 1999-2000 Season. I would hope that we let Lawson fully develop so he can come out on fire and give us as much time to do well as possible in the future. Is there a risk he jumps early for the NFL so be it, don't hurt his development if there is a chance for what might be a lost season. I say we only play him if Brewer and Motely go down with season-ending injuries but of course I am not a head coach...

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Not have a RS Senior TT cost us probably our best shot at a MNC since 1999-2000 Season

What year would have gotten us there then? I think LT did as great of a job as he did in 2011 and TT couldn't have done it much better IMO.

I agree with you, but I understand the argument that maybe TT could've given us the offensive fire power to get around Clemson twice in 2011.

However, TT contributed a lot in 2007. Without TT, I believe we could have lost to FSU or UVA. TT also had a huge contribution against Clemson that year IIRC. If Settle or Lawson can come help us win games that we may otherwise lose, then they should play.

EDIT: Stats from '07
Tyrod posted almost 300 yards total against FSU, and a bit under 200 against Clemson, and 2 TD's against UVA (in a game we won by 12).

If Lawson/Settle can have THAT kind of an effect on a game, they need to play. I am not ok with benching a talented recruit and potentially taking three losses just to potentially have a shot at getting a shot to possibly appear in the playoffs.

TT also had a huge contribution against Clemson that year IIRC.

Tyrod posted almost 300 yards total against FSU, and a bit under 200 against Clemson,

I remember Clemson out gaining us yard-wise even though we were up big on the scoreboard in 07. Beamer Ball is what helped us win that game, not really the offense. TT helped us move the chains, but I don't think he was the reason we won that game particularly.

But in general, yes, without TT we would've lost against FSU and others in 07, but I'm not sure if we would've fared better against Clemson in 2011 with him either. I guess it's a shoulda / woulda / coulda game at this point.

Hindsight is 20/20. Coaches can't base playing players on what the team might look like 4 years out. You play the best players now. If they aren't the best now, red shirt them.

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If he's going to start next year, then shouldn't he get some time this year? Isn't Tech really angling for next year to be "their year?". Your offense should return as many parts as ever for one year, and do you want the QB to be the only inexperienced member who has never taken a college snap? I think a quarter against Furman, a quarter against Purdue, and any mop up duty against any teams that we lead comfortably would be better than a redshirt. To me, a redshirt is for a guy who you plan to have five years and it just doesn't seem likely for the best prospects.

Do you really think he'll get meaningful experience out of playing in garbage time? Personally I think that if a player gets anything out of playing only 20ish snaps of garbage time for the entire season, your coaching staff is terrible, and our current staff isn't that bad. Also, while he might not stay that 5th year, it's nice to have that option if it's available.

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^Agree. We all knew MV7 had the potential, but I don't think anyone could have envisioned what he truly ended up doing for VT when he first arrived on campus (from what I recall he was a 3/4* recruit depending on which site.) Yes, he could be considered an anomaly (few of his caliber pass through at a single school), but the RS was the best thing for him. Giving DL2 garbage time isn't worth burning his RS. The only way it should get burned is a complete disaster of the other 3 viable options going down or showing complete ineptitude. If he is what they say, then a 5th yr DL2 is probably unlikely, but hey, we never know. Hell, RS-ing and running the scout team O vs. 1st D may be the best possible preparation for him going into his RS-f campaign.

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I disagree there. College QBs excel frequently in their redshirt freshman year with zero experience. 20 snaps in garbage time won't do anything but take away a year of eligibility. He's going to gain way more knowledge from practice and the qb room than the field

There is something to be said for knowing you will be on the field and have to prepare as such. You review film with more detail, value every rep, and focus more when you know your ass is going to be on the field under fire. I would rather he get use to the speed of the game and make mistakes when we don't need him to win as opposed to when we do. This is assuming of course that he is that legit to start next year which is not clear imo.

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Clearly Beamer and Co. have already given him a red shirt as seen above with my factual picture #sauces. I think it might even be a marinade.

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Yes, the redshirt. I took it to it mean "the future is now." Mix and match heads and bodies to make the ultimate super player. Imagine the possibilities.

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Oh, well I've done that too. It's half Kendall Fuller, half Sam Rogers, and half Loch Ness Monster... or um actually Bucky Hodges.

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I hope he doesn't get that redshirt.

Otherwise...RIP Dwayne.

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What? Did you read the article and data?

Missed the word That

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"Redshirt" here refers to the image above - a sure sign of being a casualty on Star Trek.

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Star Trek has a little history with red shirts...

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How could he be the most interesting man in the world if he hadn't?

The other realistic scenario is that our 5'10" 170 lb gunslinger of a QB puts himself of one too many rushing LBers and is out for an extended stretch of games. If that happens, it may not be worth putting Motley out there (who is probably a high floor/low ceiling type of prospect these days) or take the risk that Lawson can run as well or better than Motley and that any poor passing from Lawson is at least a learning experience.

I agree that we will be making more and more short-term decisions this year. That pattern has already existed more the last few years as this staff's time is winding down.

Redshirt both him and Settle, and let them be the offensive and defensive anchors through 2019.

Seriously, that is a very easy way to ensure we continue to be a good team throughout Beamer's supposedly pending retirement. Build around these 2 and things will fall into place.

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Agreed. Redshirt him. Let him learn and develop. We have Motley and Durkin who can cover garbage time and read option plays.

While we all hope he is our QB of the future and starter next year, it is very possible he is backup to Motley next year and then is a 3 year starter after that while getting more reps next season. The coaches should plan on him being here 5 years and if he is that elite of a player who can jump early to the NFL, we are going to win some games and the QB recruiting will be on fire for Leoffler at that point.

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My thoughts exactly! Let these guys develop and we build around two of the most hyped recruits we have had in a while. I think this is the best way to try to make sure Beamer can retire on a high note.

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I think it's a straight forward question. Do our coaches believe that Lawson or Settle would help us win games that we would otherwise lose?

  • If yes - play them
  • If no - redshirt them

No playing in garbage time to get experience, no redshirt to set up for future years. If they make our team better now, they play. Otherwise, redshirt em.

Well to a point I agree... but I'll amend that a bit.

Does the potential to help win now outweigh the potential for them to help win in their RS Sr year. If they would help more now than then, play them now, but if the coaches feel they would have better productivity than who they believe can fill in for them in 2019, then keep them out.

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Hard to see Settle being in the Burg for 5 years.

I'd take whatever he needs to do to get drafted earlier.

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How many interior D lineman were drafted after 3 years?

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Also worth noting that less than half (4) were drafted, despite 9 entering.

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That's pretty poor numbers. Underclassmen declaring has actually been VERY bad recently few are drafted.

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I see him here for 4. Slim Tim!

If he leaves early, you have to believe that top DL recruits will take notice, as this is something we haven't been very good at in the past based on scheme. If we see Settle go, we should be able to start pulling in other top guys who want that same opportunity.

Same can be said for Lawson. So really, redshirt them both, and let everything play out as it may.

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Does the potential to help win now outweigh the potential for them to help win in their RS Sr year?

I don't think this is a fair question. A lot can happen in 4-5 seasons. Players can transfer, get injured, go to the draft, coaches/scheme could change, supporting cast could get better or worse, etc.

Our coaches (should) know what they have in each player, and as a collective unit. They do not know the situation 4 years down the road. Analyze the data you have at your disposal. Not the data you don't.

I'm just happy that we're in the position to be able to debate whether or not we should redshirt talents like Settle and Lawson.

I haven't cared this much about a redshirt decision since Marcus, let alone two decisions in the same year.

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Not to mention Shai and Marshawn. I think both of those guys should be redshirted...looks like Shai is making it tough for the coaches to sit him for the year but IMHO I think it needs to be done. I'd hate for him to get out on that knee too soon and hurt it again. I have to assume that tearing the same ACL 3 times is career ending...

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If he tears that ACL again, it won't be because he is on it too soon. It would be something that would have happened either way. If the doctors clear him and he is performing at the level to warrant playing time, the knee is fully healed and is strong enough for him to be making those explosive cuts and runs. I don't think he will be an announced redshirt. It may be the intent for him to redshirt by the coaches unless a RB or 2 gets dinged up and then they will play him.

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I just don't buy into the whole "what if he leaves early" trepidation.

If he leaves early, it can only mean Loeffler is as good at training up QBs as everyone says he is, and that kind of coaching talent easily attracts more great prospects.

While the odds of him actually leaving early are slim, I think we'll be better than fine if Lawson only spent two seasons under center before heading to the NFL.

A true debate, for sure, but I'm for a redshirt. I do believe, as much as I want the Hokies to win every game forever, that it will be in the best interest for the kid to have the time to learn, grow, get to know his team mates and forge the alliances that will pay off when he's ready to take the reigns for good and all. Sheer talent is fantastic, but a combination of sheer talent and a solid grasp of the schemes, strengths and weaknesses of the system is what will eventually pay the biggest returns, in my opinion. I do understand the "bring him in in mop up or defeat mode" games position, but I don't think that's enough experience to trump the benefits of a redshirt year. And, we're just writing off Motley, et al?

And Brian, your moving story reminds me of a friend I had not long after college who had a brand new pickup truck he was so proud of. One year later, he showed up at a party driving a twenty year old Porsche. When asked, he declared that he sold the pickup after the fifth friend's request that he help him move his/her household. He said his truck only had two seats anyway, these were the days before club cabs, and now he wouldn't have to move more than a lamp or a footstool, and suddenly his "help" seemed no longer needed at all.

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Has anybody looked at the 2017 schedule? That's our best shot assuming that the Coastal stays mediocre and the Atlantic champ isn't a playoff caliber team as well.

I think 2016 schedule is better. Running the ACC table is easier with Miami and GT at Blacksburg and games against SEC Tennessee and at Notre Dame are sure to impress the playoff committee.

Seems to me that if he leaves early, it will be because he was really successful. Loeffler will be able to fill in behind him with more talent.

I don't see a need for hand-wringing here. Play him if he's ready and if the team needs him. Otherwise, don't.

Agree that this will be a year-long soap opera if things don't go well. Here's to hope!

I am sorry, but I think the decision just has to be redshirt him. We have Brewer, Motley, and Durkin. Motley and Durkin have both red-shirted and will see playing time this year. There is no need to carry four active QB's.

I think a combo of Motley and Durkin could work wonders if Brewer goes down.
Both give a real strong threat to run and bring a strong read-option game. If the run-blocking looks good we might only have to throw a handful of times per game (Like Marcus's victory over #2 Miami.)

If Lefty could do it with Tebow he could use the same game plan with Motley and Durkin.

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I feel like if Brewer goes down early in the season and Lawson is capable, he should be the one in there. Just a personal feeling.

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The answer is simple: Redshirt. There is no need to rush him into the system when we have 3 QBs that have more experience, all with "good" skill sets of their own able to play if one or more of them get hurt.

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While this is depressing and not the way many of you imagine the season going, it's starkly realistic. Thiscouldhappen, and one version of it or another (ranging between 7-5 and 10-2) probably will.

Made me cry a little bit...

Just thinking about it makes me want to slap Bryan Stinespring and Mike O'Cain with a malpractice lawsuit.

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Also, with regard to people talking about Loeffler bringing in more talent if Lawson succeeds, Josh Jackson was incredibly impressive in his first game against powerhouse Rockford. 25/34 for 354 yards, 4 TD and 1 INT, and rushed 13 times for 95 yards and another TD. He looks much improved and very underrated.

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Unless Lawson is clear and away the best QB in the stable, redshirt him. I think Motley doesn't get the automatic starter label next year and there is a full on open QB competition between 3 guys who have been in the system for varying amounts of time. Unless he is Vick 2.0 (who redshirted), let him mature, learn, and get stronger and better. But if he is Vick level talent, I'd still rather have him for 3 whole seasons (or 4 if he really loves college).

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What's the fun in that!?

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Ha! Good point.

I could be swayed either way regarding the redshirt. However, if we do redshirt Lawson, he will be a 21 year old RS-Freshman! WAT. I didn't turn 21 until my senior year.

This seems to be the most overlooked aspect of the redshirt to me. 21 year old R-Freshman! Logan Thomas is 24 years old and is in (hopefully) his second year. Jameis Winston - 21. Mariota - 21. Bridgewater - 22.

If the NFL is legitimately on this kid's radar; play him. Play him early. Its no longer about the first contract, but the second for these players.*

*This has grossly diminished all that it would take 1)to get to the NFL and 2) to get a second contract.

Play the guy. Get him his live reps this year and prep him for starting ASAP.

There's been nothing out of camp that I've heard suggesting that Durkin is the QB of the future, Ford transferred, Click unlikely, and that leaves Motley and Lawson. If Lawson is the QB of the future, he should be the one getting the valuable reps.

If the post above foreshadows another great signal caller coming in next year, then we might not need to save Lawson for the distant future and a redshirt would be a waste of everyone's time.

But do you really burn a redshirt for him to get maybe 30 snaps total between Furman and Purdue? I mean, you only see the backup get time in games that are well in hand, which I would say is a 3 score lead, and looking at our schedule, I only see those two as games were we should have those situations. It's possible we could have that lead against BC or UVA, but historically that doesn't really happen for us against them. So is he getting anything meaningful in <50 snaps that would make it worth the redshirt?

I think this is more a matter of asking how much the redshirt is actually worth. Tough to call this early in his career.

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I think any game action he can get could be a meaningful stepping stone to next year, and, on top of that, reduces the likelihood that Brewer gets hurt (which could be reduced with any quarterback of course). I don't see us blowing anyone out to the point that we'll be able to get a backup in before halftime or anything, but I'm hoping there will be enough leeway in more than a couple of games where we can get him a drive or two.

As HokieJeep points out, though, I don't think Lawson or VT gains anything by redshirting this year. Since most of the guys we have this year will be back on offense next year, I think we do gain something tangible by playing him. I surely don't want him to have his first action coming when he's supposed to be the starter as a r-Fr.

I honestly don't mind if we play him this year, but from what I saw of him in scrimmages I wouldn't want to give him a package that he would be running when games could still be lost. I would want Motley to be our change of pace QB and Lawson could maybe come in to close out games that are already decided. Which seems a waste of a year to me, but I don't mind if we do it.

if we don't blow out purdue and furman by halftime something is wrong. If the coaches think Lawson is the guy for the next 3 years he should absolutely play this year. I know people point to MV7 as an example why you don't need to play to be able to compete at a high level w/o experience but let's face it we aren't going to have another qb like MV7 athletically again probably ever.

The athleticism isn't really the issue though, is it? I mean, Lawson is not going to get any more athletic playing vs practicing. The point others have made is comparing true freshmen QBs to red-shirt freshman QBs. There are a lot of examples of red-shirt freshmen QBs who have led D1 teams to great things. There have been very few examples of true freshmen who have done so.

Put differently, there is no reason to suppose that Lawson will struggle more next year (assuming he is QB1 next year) if he red-shirts this year than if he plays a few series in garbage time. The difference between a true freshman and a red-shirt freshman is substantial; the difference between a red-shirt freshman and a true sophomore with 20 snaps against Furman is trivial.

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But do you really burn a redshirt for him to get maybe 30 snaps total between Furman and Purdue?

You don't burn the redshirt for garbage time snaps - only meaningful snaps. If there are no meaningful snaps out there for him, then you keep the redshirt.

Yes, please. Dwayne Lawson is going to be our starting quarterback next year....the coaches make it sound like it anyways. If that's going to be the case, the dude needs to see some game action. If we should be so lucky as to keep him for three years as a starter, that will be on the Tyrod level of VT fortune.

Can I see a show of hands from those who want Dwayne Lawson to take his first collegiate snap ever in his first start ever.........

How about this? Don't wait to see if there is garbage time in low risk games. Start him for the 1st quarter against the shittiest teams we play. If the coaches have done their jobs, we should be able to close out the furmans of the world even if our best QB isn't on the field during the 1st quarter.

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Start him for the 1st quarter against the shittiest teams we play. If the coaches have done their jobs, we should be able to close out the furmans of the world even if our best QB isn't on the field during the 1st quarter.

This. If it goes sideways against Furman or Purdue in the first quarter, then we can always bring Brewer or Motley in to get us back on the right track for the remaining three quarters.

They are playing Tremaine Edmunds this year because they think he will start next year.

I have posted this before but I will be shocked if Lawson redshirts.

I'm pretty sure Foster said he would be playing in someway, get him out there this season, or some form of that.

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However Tremaine doesn't play the most critical position on the field. Easier to do that for a guy on defense than a QB. If Lawson is capable in both skill set and knowledge AND we NEED him to come in to win games then play him. If none of that exists then keep the redshirt.

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So how does it make more sense that we have a guy who plays "the most critical position on the field" be a starter with ZERO college snaps, but a guy who plays a much less critical position needs experience before starting next year?

I would think it would take a lot longer to learn the plays and leadership at the QB position.

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Starting a freshman? No, I'm good. He's still in this part of his life right now:

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I think you mixed up his current age with the statement that he'd be a 21-y.o. redshirt freshman.

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I think the most significant issue isn't what happens this year - it's what happens after Beamer retires and he's playing for a new OC and/or QB coach. If he's playing for a spread offense coach, the sky's the limit.

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Posted this before- if it's true that Loeffler's offense is as complicated as people claim it to be, shouldn't that end any talk of Lawson starting this year since he's a true freshman who didn't even enroll in the spring? Unless he's been blowing people away in practice this year that feels like a good way to waste what should be a terrific defense.

I think it's unlikely he starts, especially early in the season, but I do think it's 51-49 that he sees the field in some sort capacity this year.

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Remember BC and CFB was getting ready to pull the redshirt off of MV? He did not but we won anyway. Redshirt and let him learn.

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It's interesting how this decision seemed to be pretty clear cut with Tyrod back in 2007, if I remember correctly.

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man, I hope this doesn't go down the same way it did in 2007. That would mean we were getting our butts handed to us by a national powerhouse in a September game and were desperate for some sort of offensive spark so we threw in a freshman qb into a game he had no hope of winning.

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Tyrod was actually a 5* #1 QB prospect. Lawson is not

What has Lawson shown, other than being tall, that shows he is ready? I haven't heard anything that says he is tearing it up in practice or anything. Are we really getting this excited about a tall QB again?

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