Interesting take on the fall of Spurrier and how Shane contributed

From the South Carolina 247 site. Basically lays the leaving of Shane in 2011 as the first major step in the fall if the HBC.

"Beamer was an energetic, young coach who understood the nuances of tirelessly working the phones and constantly maintaining contact with recruits."

Now his recruiting in Richmond hasnt been all that was hoped for, and his hand at being a full time Offensive Coach was a bust.

But undeniably he will find a job next likely going back to Defense, or ST's full time, and be another recruiting coordinator.

Ironically he was replaced at SCAR as RC by Spurrier Jr, and he contributed to a degree to some big misses for them.

http://sportstalksc.com/index.php/2015/10/15/commentary-how-the-usc-program-got-away-from-steve-spurrier/

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pfft... everyone knows Shane is a bad coach and was only hired for nepotism

Also int he linked article about Shane coming home in 2011. I did not know but Shane waited until the Tuesday before signing day, and started at VT that Friday.

He waited so long because on that Monday he got Jadeveon CLowney to commit.

There goes my sarcasm meter again.
I need to take that thing in to get re calibrated.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

if it reads it sarcastically then no need to recalibrate.

You analysis of how Shane has done is so off base its comical.

O come on you cant just lay that out there and not go on a tirade!

Then you come off as a pedantic dick an we wouldn't want that!

You come off as one for criticizing me because I don't feel like typing a 300 word response refuting your ridiculous claim.

Did he write the article?

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O good then I was clear enough!

Maybe Shane is really just a good recruiter and having offensive coaching responsibilities is just too much on his plate. Also maybe Shane at Sakerlina felt like he still had something to prove and getting the offer to come back to take was his goal and took some of that urgency and ambition off. Who knows. Either way his reputation at USC doesn't seem to match what we have here at Tech.

Plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

Or maybe the decision to do RB by committee was above Shane's pay grade (CSL).

“I remember Lee Corso's car didn't get out of the parking lot.” ~CFB

yeah..maybe. I doubt it though. None of the other position groups see that kind of rotation. Particularly at WR. And I don't think you can peg the WR rotation (or lack thereof, really) on CSL because he's been quoted as saying that he really doesn't like playing the same guys there all game long, and yet, that seems to be all we do. Ford, at least, is on the field for the entire game and that's not what Scot wants. If WR rotation was up to him, I'm sure we'd see more receivers getting game reps. That leads me to believe the WR rotation is up to Burden. It would follow logically, then, that the RB rotation is up to Beamer.

Onward and upward

Maybe Shane is really just a good recruiter and having offensive coaching responsibilities is just too much on his plate.

Sorry but welcome to coaching college football

Every second counts

Exactly, he demonstrated that he was able to be successful when balancing Recruiting Coordinator and DEFENSIVE Coaching responsibilities.

So how much do we blame him, or blame Frank for allowing us to not make the best use of our staff with NCAA limited numbers of coaching slots.

Good post, but I mainly wanted to up vote it because of one word: "Sakerlina." LMAO, that is freakin funny...

-Being aggressive, being tough...that's the Virginia Tech way.

Shane IS a good recruiter. He gets kids in the door and seriously looking at us that we weren't even getting to consider us before. The problem is that we just couldn't close the deal, which there are a variety of reasons that didn't happen.

This is one of those reasons I think Shane could be a sneaky good head coaching candidate if he surrounds himself with excellent coordinators. Let him focus on recruiting and closing the deal, and our talent level will skyrocket, and will give our coordinators a lot of shiny new toys to play with.

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Agreed 100% - he's a coach in the Dabo mold, the key would be getting (and retaining) excellent Xs and Os coordinators

It was a catch

Let him focus on recruiting and closing the deal, and our talent level will skyrocket, and will give our coordinators a lot of shiny new toys to play with.

If Shane is that good a recruiter, seems like that would be happening now. Is Loeffler the offensive coordinator you're thinking of, or is it someone different?

I'm really not seeing it. Please help me out here.

If you're relying on your RB coach to be the 'closer' you're doing it wrong.

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Why is that? Guys like Tee Martin, Chip West and Tim Brewster are the closers at their programs and excel with top end recruits. They're all position coaches too

There is something to be said about being closed by "the guy". People respond to it. Much the same way that I can say something word for word to a customer that my technician said and they'll agree with me but they argue with my expert-level technician. Having "Manager" in the title apparently helps.

A decade on TKP and it's been time well spent.

...but where does that leave Bud Foster?

-Being aggressive, being tough...that's the Virginia Tech way.

The HBC has some salient points about what is needed in a new head coach and who is really working the common recruiting areas:

"We need a hustler, a guy with fire and passion, a guy that is going to out-recruit (Clemson coach) Dabo (Swinney) and (Georgia coach) Mark Richt and (North Carolina coach) Larry Fedora," he said. "I think it's obvious our talent is not quite as good as it was, and that's my fault. We haven't recruited, maybe, quite as well. We thought we had, but it hasn't played out."

I told him I’d crawl on my hands and knees to be the DL coach at Virginia Tech. Now, all of a sudden, I’m sitting in this chair and I told him I’d still crawl on my hands and knees to work here. I just want to be here.
JC Price

you left off the tail end of that quote from HBC:

"I don't act 70 or talk or look like it, but I am," he said. "It's hard on recruiting. You can't be 70 years old and go 4-8, 5-7. I definitely was a liability. It can get ugly. The more you lose, the uglier it gets."

Love this quote from S Spurrier Jr:

"One of the things I've never particularly liked doing was answering my phone all the time," Spurrier said. "I don't like talking to everybody. I've never loved all that stuff, but as a recruiting coordinator you better like talking to everybody that knows anybody that wants to talk about high school football. You better have a good relationship with all those people, so I'm excited about reaching out to people in this state and making sure we continue our success recruiting this state."

something many of our fanbase should respect... who on staff is that person for us now???

who will it be in the future?