Buzzketball Looks to Make Up Ground in Year Two

There are plenty of questions surrounding the Virginia Tech men's basketball team, but can they improve in year two?

A team photo at Virginia Tech basketball media day [Mark Umansky]

The beginning of Virginia Tech's media day felt oddly familiar for an event that's supposed to signify the start of of a new basketball season. The same group of reporters piled into the same tiny interview room buried in the bowels of Cassell Coliseum in order to talk to the coach that they've spent the last year and a half conversing with.

The only thing off was that Buzz Williams was wearing a suit, something that he'd have sweated through long before he sits in that same seat a month from now after the Hokies' first game against Alabama State.

But in that press conference, just like in this one, he'll answer the same questions about some of the tall tasks facing his team. Problems, you'll notice, that are quite similar to ones Tech faced a year ago.

What can Virginia Tech do about its lack of size, and how will it impact their major rebounding deficiencies?

Is this team deep enough to handle injuries that come their way?

How steep will the learning curve be for the six players that haven't worn maroon and orange on the basketball court?

How can the Hokies avoid finishing last in the ACC for a fifth straight season?

All valid questions, and all ones that look like they bring Williams discomfort. He grimaces when talking about the offseason knee injury to forward Ahmed Hill. He cuts his eyes when he briefly mentions that JUCO transfer Ty Outlaw will miss the entire season due to a medical condition. He concentrates intently when describing his squad's focus on "getting better," but looks down when acknowledging that he doesn't want them to focus on certain specifics.

"We had our own get better cards, what are we trying to get better at, what does that look like," Buzz explained. "On the floor, off the floor, without using numbers. Because I think numbers sometimes set you up for failure."

Spoken like a man going out of his way to avoid artificially raised expectations.

And there's reason for cautiousness. The team lost last season's leading scorer (Adam Smith) to transfer and one of their few big men (Christian Beyer) to graduation. The injuries to Hill and Outlaw put a huge dent in the depth on the wing, and the dearth of post players is still as present as it ever was.

On top of all that, the overall lack of experience for a team with a full load of scholarship guys is pretty jaw dropping. Seven of the theoretically 13 rotation players are underclassmen, another two are junior college signees in their first D1 season, and two more haven't played in over a year due to transfer rules. In other words, there is ONE holdover from the last year of the James Johnson era, and that same player (Devin Wilson) is the only person in the whole locker room who's been on campus for longer than two years.

Those are a lot of things all stacked up against this team and their path to success, but don't let any of it fool you. This roster is markedly better than a year ago, and could quite possibly be the most talented unit to set foot in Blacksburg since Malcolm Delaney and Jeff Allen departed.

The Hokies may have lost Smith, a tweener/volume scorer who struggled on defense, but replace him with Seth Allen. The former Maryland guard has already proved himself on the ACC level. He scored 13.4 points a game during his sophomore season in College Park, and looked to be a key cog in Mark Turgeon's development of the Terrapin program. In fact, the redshirt junior does much of what Smith once did for the team but at a slightly higher level.

Though Smith posted a career high season from three point range (42.4%, 81 of 191), his lack of size (both height and weight) meant that he needed a lot of help getting his shot off. Be it through numerous screens or simply isolating on his man for an extended period of time, his numbers often came at the cost of bogging down the rest of the offense.

Allen provides a comparable lethality from distance (38%), but is a more complete player. Though both are listed at 6-1, Allen is 20 pounds heavier and doesn't have to stand on his tippy toes to reach six feet. He's better equipped to handle the contact and physicality that'll come in conference play. Add his better floor vision to the fact that he can't possibly be as bad on defense means if the newcomer plays up to his potential, there's an opportunity for an upgrade at the position.

Speaking of improvements, look at the other 2014-2015 departures and their replacements. Beyer, Will Johnston and Malik Mueller turned into freshmen Justin Robinson (who may be the only point guard on the roster that's a threat to both score and assist), Kerry Blackshear (a mobile big man with a jumper) and Chris Clarke (a hyper-athletic wing who can defend multiple positions). Not a bad trade for two former walk-ons and a guard asked to play power forward.

Add in relatively unknown center Johnny Hamilton and forward Zach Leday to the mix, and all of a sudden you're looking at a team with players at every position. The additional team members fill in holes everywhere, including ball handler. For the first time in years there's depth at point guard with Allen, Wilson and Robinson. This not only means that Wilson won't have to play a third consecutive season's worth of exhaustive minutes, but that Justin Bibbs and Jalen Hudson won't be asked to play out of position in an attempt to give him a rest.

And while it's still not an ideal situation, there are bodies that can be thrown into a front court rotation. No longer does so much hang on the foul trouble of Satchel Pierce or the ability of undersized guards like Wilson and Bibbs to grab boards (though they'll still be asked to do plenty of it).

A wider array of options for Buzz and company will show its benefits in less apparent ways as well. For instance, if one person is in a slump, it's now possible to let them ease their way out of it by taking them off the court, but without a prodigious drop off in production. Remember when Bibbs lost his shooting stroke? The coaching staff did all they could to lessen the burden on him, but the difference between the freshman and someone like an undersized (and under-athletic) Mueller or Johnston was clear within 30 seconds. At least now there is at least one comparable replacement at every spot on the floor.

Yes, there are still questions aplenty. And yes, most of those questions are the exact same ones from just eight months ago. Inside defense and rim protection will still be a challenge β€” Leday and Shane Henry are undersized, and Hamilton, Pierce and Blackshear all sound like they need to add strength &mdash as will the ability to find scoring that doesn't come from the hot-and-cold threat from chucking a ton of threes.

Sure, with all of the new faces there will be missed rotations and blown defensive assignments. There will definitely be passes that sail four rows into the stands and jumpers taken far too early into the shot clock. These all come with youth and inexperience, and will probably be enough to make Buzz want to pull out any hair he had left.

Williams will never admit how difficult this rebuilding job has been. He'd never throw anyone under the bus, or talk about the smoldering crater that was the Virginia Tech basketball program when he took the position. But in what may have been his most interesting quote of the day, the head coach spoke on the concept of culture that surrounds a program and its importance to what he and his staff are doing. Whether it was intentional or not, he was able to highlight how much they had to build upon their arrival.

"It has to be part of who you are on a daily basis," Williams said. "Are we there yet? No. Have we made up some ground? I believe so. That's the hardest part about all of this, whether you believe in culture or don't believe in culture, the hardest thing to make up in life is ground.

"As a coach, as an employee, as whatever the situation is, when you're having to make up ground, that's really hard. Because your competition, they're not just ideally standing by. And so when you're trying to make up ground, your culture has to partly answer 'this is how we're going to make up some ground,' and that culture is going to carry it through the growth process. And so, I think we're on the right track."

The metamorphosis from Hokie Hoops to Buzzketball was always going to take more time than anyone wanted to admit, but a step's been made. As for those questions? They'll be answered, only to be soon followed by new ones about other problems that face this team. But if the hardest thing in life really is to make up ground, the Hokies have an opportunity to accomplish something pretty difficult this year. It may be small, but the foundation has been laid for Buzz's bunch to start clawing their way out of the ACC's basement.

Comments

Great read up, so excited for roundball season this year. I think Buzz has the chance to make some real noise in the next few years in the ACC and eventually the dance!

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
β€œI served in the United States Navy"

Keep in mind that anything happening this year and possibly into next year is entirely due to Jim Weaver and Tom Gabbard. The basketball program was decimated by their actions for no less than 4 years with the incredibly inept firing of Seth Greenburg and unfair treatment of J.J.

Ah, the old "they were so inept that they propelled us to success" strategy.

Let's just hope it works.

Just look at those smiling faces! Hope is abundant. It's a good looking team, we have size, we have wing players, we have three (3!!!!) point guards. We can go big (Blackshear could play some wing, he's a face up guy) or we could go really small (Clarke and/or Henry will play some 5 at some point this year). Losing Outlaw sucks and Ahmed Hill was our best player so we need him back. But this looks like a markedly improved team.

I was unaware that "lethality" was a word....but it is! I will use that the next time the opportunity arises....which may be never. I can't think of how I would use lethality, but if I can, I will. I think "ideally" probably should have been "idly" in Buzz's quote.

Very well written article. Thank you so much.

I'm so excited!

This should be the year we move up at least one spot in the ACC standings by the end of they year and get a signature win.

What would we be if we didn't aim high, right?

Setting the bar low to improve the chance we heavily exceed expectations

How do you think he keeps his reputation as a miracle worker?

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-What we do is, if we need that extra push, you know what we do? -Put it up to fully dipped? -Fully dipped. Exactly. It's dork magic.

In my book, put Pierce down as the most improved player this year. I think he'll be a 8 ppg, 5-6 reb / game guy.

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Yep. My guesses to "major awards I just made up" would be:

MVP: Allen -- Leading scorer, most minutes, takes key shots. Runner Up: Bibbs
Most Improved: Pierce -- starts every game, feel the loss when he gets in foul trouble, much better defender. Runner Up: Hudson (due to fewer bad games)
Best Newcomer: Robinson -- Solid scorer, can get to the rim. I think he will play more than anticipated at 1 and push Allen to 2. Runner Up: Tough call between Blackshear and Clarke, but I'm going with Blackshear. We will need his mass on the court in ACC play.

I'm interested to see Blackshear on the court. Looking at him on the street, he looks like a kid in the middle of a massive growth spurt trying to gain coordination of his new-found length. Some athletes just look that way growth or not so we'll see.

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

...and yes, Justin Robinson. Going to be a stud. Love that if you don't watch him take a shot, you really can't tell if he's lefty or righty. He looks equally explosive right or left hand. and a 6-1 pg doing windmill dunks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5teU5PozicI

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

I'd rather see 5-6ppg and 8 rpg from Pierce

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In terms of our resurgence....

I seriously can't wait for the 2016-2017 season. This one will be fun, but I have a feeling starting next season, the team could be special.

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Not to burst your bubble, but this whole 3 year plan is the exact same thing we said with the football team for 2015, and that didn't live up to the hype. Let's see how this year goes and if Buzz can actually right the ship.

VT 2016
Go Hokies

Buzz Williams > Scot Loeffler

Every second counts

The differences between the offense in football and the basketball program are night and day. The talent we have coming in across the board in basketball is a lot better than what we're bringing in across the board in football.

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

"The talent we have coming in across the board in basketball is a lot better than what we're bringing in across the board in football."

Compared to where we started - last place to middle of the pack is a lot easier climb than 3rd to 1st. As good as next year may be, no one realistically should expects us to supplant UNC, Louisville, Duke, etc. as perennial conference champs. That is exactly the expectation in football based upon having been there not so long ago.

VT would do well to be competitive in basketball in the ACC.

And the best way to do that is to get top 20 recruiting classes, which Buzz did for the last two years.

Not just talent wise, but VT hoops and football just seem to be mentally different right now. The football program recently has had a reputation for "playing to their level of competition" (helloooo Wake Forest.) While Buzzketball doesn't give a damn if you're Morgan State or Duke; they're going to come out ready to ball. Yeah, mistakes will be made with such a young an inexperienced team, but they'll always hit hard and fast and give it their all.

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I sympathize with your caution/skepticism, but comparing a turnaround in basketball with football is not really possible. Football has so many more moving parts and things that need to come together in order to be successful, you only have 12-13 opportunities, and sustained success in massively more influenced by donors and facilities. Basketball by no means is easy, but I'd think it's a lot easier to turn a program around than it is in football. But regardless, so far Buzz is majorly winning in my book for the simple fact of what he's doing with the program off the court. He is very much building a strong foundation in the program that will make it much easier to have sustained success in the future as opposed to simply getting results quickly to appease the fan base. It may take a few seasons to get out of the basement and see the light, but once out I think Buzz's culture and foundations will be able to sustain us in the top 7 of the ACC rather than just having a few brilliant/lucky seasons from time to time.

Not to mention that the football team has more than 80 players and a dozen coaches/ga's. The basketball team has what 15 players and maybe 4 coaches?

15 players and maybe 4 coaches

Maybe in the past. Don't let the titles fool you, everyone on that staff does something towards coaching.

True, but my point was it is a lot more possible to completely turning around a basketball team based on a few new players as opposed to a football team.

Oh absolutely. Just look at the Greenberg blueprint, get a fresh set of 5 freshmen and build around them. Due to the talent that was here, Buzz has essentially done the same, though he has also filled in with JUCO and transfers which seems to be what college basketball is becoming.

But with the coaches/coaching up players, it also easier for basketball since they can get more one on one time than football can even sniff at.

I've been admittedly very lack-luster in my support for Tech basketball post Greenburg's firing. Even after Buzz was hired, I knew we'd be at least two years away from being any decent.

All that being said, I'm excited to see how all the new faces do this year. Fresh faces = culture change!

Thanks for the write-up! I am honestly more interested in the VT basketball program than I have been in many, many years.

Oh, can we get the names to go with those smiling faces?

I saw Devin Wilson and another player I could not ID (maybe #22?) when I was in town for the Ohio State game. He looked much bigger than he has in recent years. Might be the difference between being on TV and in person, but I would say he is ready for this season. Hopefully the last year of practice and playing time will mean Pierce stays out of foul trouble, I have the feeling we will need him and Blackshear on the court at the same time quite a bit this year.

Plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

I love that TKP covers all of the VT sports...but I can't help but chuckle a little bit at everyone's excitement for basketball season when we're only half way through football season

Onward and upward

VT Basketball starts in three weeks.

Is VT football still being played?

VT football hasn't been played in at least 4 years

Onward and upward

I thought maybe it was just my cable company, showing an imposter team.

The imposter team, however, was missing both the characteristic defense and Beamer Ball.

I got that same chuckle, but I'm happy with it. The hype train I was on before the football season has ground to a halt, leaving me seriously stranded in nowheresville, so I was looking for another ride. This'll do for now.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

New hype train pulling out of the station. All aboard.

Ummm, not sure I like the looks of that conductor, though.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

Me thinks he doth protest too much...

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Exactly!

Now I truly feel like a member of the ACC.

"And there's reason for cautiousness. The team lost last season's leading scorer (Adam Smith) to transfer and one of their few big men (Christian Beyer) to graduation. The injuries to Hill and Outlaw put a huge dent in the depth on the wing, and the dearth of post players is still as present as it ever was."

This stood out to me as kind of a .headscratcher. Post depth is one of the most obvious improvements in this season's team compared to last. First, Beyer was a wing. He might be the same height as LeDay but he's a wing, not a forward. He played a lot at the 4 because he was the next best thing to an actual 4. (same for Mueller). This season we've got a 2 deep of legitimate forwards / post players. Even Shane Henry has bulked up over the offseason meaning he might actually be an effective forward this year. Sure that improved size is mostly unproven, but LeDay practiced with the team all season, and Hamilton has had some development time in JUCO. Only Blackshear is fresh out of high school.

"big" men lost from last season's roster
JVZ (1/2 season) 6-10
Beyer* 6-7
Mueller* 6-3

big gained this season
Hamilton 7-0
Blackshear 6-10
LeDay 6-7

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another off base description...
" or the ability of undersized guards like Wilson and Bibbs to grab boards (though they'll still be asked to do plenty of it)."

Wilson is 6-4 190 and Bibbs is 6-5 220. They are not "undersized" guards. Their size is typical of guards in the ACC and major college basketball. Want to talk about undersized guards? Maryland has 4 guards listed at 5-11 or less.

I do appreciate the coverage of basketball but please make an effort to clean this kind of stuff up, it really takes away from the overall article.

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Is Bibbs a guard? I think of him as a wing. He sure as hell isn't a 4, which he had to play too much last year.

Yeah, I consider him a guard based on his size and ball handling ability. To me, wing is kind of a term for those G/F kind of guys like Clarke or Outlaw who are a little taller and don't handle the ball as well.

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I'd consider him a swiss army knife. He played point some last season I thought, then was the high post, '4' guy at other times.

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

He's definitely a swiss army knife.

But I would hesitate to consider him with playing the "4" as a bonus skill. When there's only 1 F/C on the team, various guards and wings are going have to play the post role. That doesn't make them post players or "4's" it just means they're better at it than the other guards.

Guys like Mueller at 6'3", Bibbs at 6'5" and Hudson at 6'6" wound up playing minutes at the "4" because they had more bulk/strength than guys like Wilson, Smith and Hill. Certainly doesn't mean they were actually effective doing things a 4 should be good at.

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Absolutely- a 40% 3 shooter at 6-5 should not be playing the 4 spot

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

I disagree with your point about Beyer. He was 100% a wing. He had limited range, no ball handling, and a knack for rebounding. He was sized like a wing, but was by no means a wing

Put in Donlon

One thing for certain: Buzz will have this group of guys psyched and ready to play each and every game. We might not win a ton of games, but we will give plenty of teams a solid run for their money; EVERYTHING will have to be earned. And that's how it should be.

We still have to be patient folks, this is only Year Two of Buzzketball. This team will be much improved from last year, but it'll still be another year or two before we're ACC contenders.

"GO BACK TO YOUR ROOM LITTLE BROTHER, THE CUP IS COMIN’ ON HOME!”

Absolutely, but there is plenty of room for optimism over the next few years.

Not only psyched, but hopefully also extremely conditioned. Based on all the strength & conditioning the guys have gone through I am hoping that our opponents will wear down before we do, allowing us to play strong through the last few minutes instead of fizzing out and not being able to hold leads.

Conditions and strength has definitely improves but there is a huge difference between live game speed and practice speed. Conditioning will keep us fresher much longer than in years past but I still be more comfortable with a little more depth. I can definitely see our guys winning more of these close games because of the conditioning though.

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

My #sources report from camp have me very, very excited for Hokie basketball, especially how it relates to Satch and Blackshear. FWIW, he hit the nail on the head last season when he told me what to expect.

Always choose joy.

What have you heard about the freshman? I am super curious, especially about Blackshear

Put in Donlon

Big kid. Can move well. Best player on the floor for long stretches. Report was promising on Clarke and Robinson as well.

Always choose joy.

If Blackshear can provide quality minutes at the 4, then we may have:

1. Allen (20')/Robinson (10')/Wilson(10')
2. Hudson (25')/Allen (10')/Bibbs (5')/Hill (when healthy)
3. Bibbs (25')/Clarke (15')/Hill (when healthy)
4. Blackshear (20')/LeDay (15')/Henry (5')
5. Pierce (25')/Hamilton (10')/Blackshear (5')

That puts min/g at: Allen (30'), Bibbs (30'), Hudson (25'), Blackshear (25'), Pierce (25'), LeDay (15'), Clarke (15'), Robinson (10'), Hamilton (10'), Wilson (10'), Henry (5')

That's a big change for Wilson (30' last year) and Henry (10' last year). About 10' more per game for Pierce and Hudson, but hopefully they ready for it.

Henry will get more than 5' per game. I think he is going to surprise this year and possibly be most improved of returning players. Hudson might be most improved, but we know what he can do, it is just a matter of whether or not he can do it consistently.

I like the rest of what you have, except maybe Clarke is ready for prime time and sees more than 15' per game. That would be nice.

flip Blackshear & LeDays' minutes and that would be right on with my guesstimates.

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LeDay is still largely an unknown. Could be a significant contributor and team leader, or bit player.

I've never been this excited for VT hoops before. While I don't think we're going dancing this year, I think we do win all the non-conference games we should win and we're a massive pain in the ass for every ACC team we face. If we're in consideration for the NIT at the end of the year and everyone is healthy, I'll be a happy dude.

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Amen!

I mean, that's how I handle these games, ideally standing by.

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-What we do is, if we need that extra push, you know what we do? -Put it up to fully dipped? -Fully dipped. Exactly. It's dork magic.

I am optimistic for season, was extremely before loss of Hill and Outlaw. It is time for Bibbs and Hudson to take next step up, Pierce to more consistent and Allen to be the star most of us think he will be. This team has some real potential to fool some experts.

I actually think the redshirts will benefit this team long term. Once we get up to playing where we want to be, if we didn't have the ability to spread out when these kids aged out, we would have to start the process all over again. Now, we'll be in a bit of a constant cycle of having a team led by talented upperclassmen, while also promoting talented kids with a year or 2 experience as others go.

Should allow for more long term stability once we get playing at a high level. We won't necessarily be waiting around for that every 4th year when everyone is a Senior like we had with Seth.

Will also make us more attractive to the 1 and dones, as the level we will be playing should remain high, and bringing in a top talent could conceivably push us over the top in a given year.

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Will also make us more attractive to the 1 and dones, as the level we will be playing should remain high, and bringing in a top talent could conceivably push us over the top in a given year.

While I agree with almost everything you said there, didn't Buzz or Chew say something along the lines that we won't ever get (recruit) the McDonald's All Americans (ie One and Dones) at Tech. They go after there kind of guys, guys with extremely good work ethic, high motors etc..

Never say never....

They really can't say right now that they'll go after those kinds of guys because they'll be universally ridiculed by pundits. However, once we are at that level and we are potentially attractive to those kinds of players... who knows

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

I agree, while it has been said that Buzz typically does not like playing freshman and favors upperclassmen (he didn't really have a choice last season), I guarantee you if a one and done type guys are interested Buzz will roll out the red carpet in a hurry.

In Sam Rogers we trust.

Bibbs look taller than 6'5 to me, LeDay is listed at 6'7 and Bibbs looks every bit as tall as he is.

Also, just looking at the team and thinking how good these dudes can be in two years makes me very excited for the programs future.

In Sam Rogers we trust.

Photo is at slight angle, or they are on slight slope. Check the feet of the players sitting down, from left to right, they slant. Could be this perspective making Bibbs look taller than 6'5.

I'm just going to point out that we have a lot of TKP users having a big discussion on a basketball post. I'm really glad that there are this many people legit excited and talking about VT hoops weeks before the season starts. Carry on.

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