Kind of a humorous article but it is interesting to see Chip Kelly linked to a potential VT opening again
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/10/27/9458907/chip-kelly-ncaa-football-eagles
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I thought what was written about us was humurous
It's only hilarious because we're trying to forget that it's true.
Trying to forget what's true? I can't remember what I'm supposed to be forgetting.
This man is doing it right
Let me help you with that:
If we could get Chip Kelly, does anyone think he wouldn't be the best hire VT could make? Also, I have no basis to say whether we could or couldn't from a financial perspective.
Personally, I'd take Chip and all of the risks that come with him. A humming Kelly offense (outstanding recruiter) and a Foster defense could set the Coastal ablaze. It'd be hard to convince me that we wouldn't be title hunting on a regular basis with that man at the helm.
I get the sense that he's kind of eccentric. I'm not saying there is anything particularly wrong with that but I think I would prefer a more stable coach. I would not be upset in the least if we got Chip but Tom Herman is still my top choice at this point.
Eccentric how? As in flaky? Just curious.
If Chip Kelly came to VT and stayed for 4 years (assuming Bud stays too), we'd play in the CFP once, I bet. If he stayed for a long time, I could imagine 1 or more titles.
He certainly does things his own way and his way is not the norm. He completely overhauled the way the Eagles eat and practice. He just seems like kind of a strange guy who operates differently than most. Again, I'm not saying it's a bad thing but I would prefer someone a little less strange just because a head coach has to deal with lots of people (recruits, other coaches, donors, boosters, AD, athletic staff) and I want someone who I am confident won't rub people the wrong way just because he's different. I don't personally have any issue with someone who does things differently but there are plenty of people who may hesitate to work for someone they think is a bit off for one reason or another.
I am curious. Did Kelly have problems working with those people you site and getting coaches and recruits on campus at Oregon and prior locations? I'd think that more than his Philly NFL experience is a better predictor of what he is about in a university atmosphere. More knowledgeable folks here could probably list examples of coaches who have succeeded and failed after making the jump from college to the pros and then back to the college.
I don't think Kelly would be a failure returning to college. That's not what I'm concerned about. Virginia Tech, and Blacksburg in general, is much more conservative than the University of Oregon. I don't know if Kelly would fit into the culture here despite the fact he found great success in Eugene. I think he's a bit eccentric but I think Oregon embraced that whereas I fear his eccentricities would cause an uncomfortable stir among some people in Blacksburg.
I don't want to look at his experience/record in the NFL as an indicator or predictor of what to expect at the college level. Nick Saban and Steve Spurrier are arguably two of the best college football coaches in the sport's history and they both failed miserably at the NFL level before reverting back to the collegiate ranks. Kelly was extremely successful at Oregon and I'm confident that regardless of how his NFL career goes he would be successful at the collegiate level should he decide to return.
I would not be upset if we got Chip to VT. I think he would have us winning fairly quickly and consistently and it would be a lot of fun to watch. That being said, he's not my top choice because I just don't think his personality and cultural background is a great match with VT. In the grand scheme of things culture and personality aren't as important as recruiting and winning on gameday. I think Chip would be great at those things that are important but I also think a guy like Tom Herman would be equally great at those and he's got the added bonus of being a better fit to the culture of Virginia Tech, IMO.
Appreciate the response. As noted I was curious.
Yeah... what he said.
lol
I don't have a dog in this fight, and couldn't care either way. But, I will say this. The university/booster environment is waaaaaaaaaay different in Eugene, OR than it is in Blacksburg.
I could see the NRV just not getting Chip Kelly, and vice versa.
Yeah, exactly this!^^
This is too funny.
What, you mean having to only be BFF with Phil Knight who has more Nike money than he knows what to do with is different than trying to coax money out of the hands of a mainly rural climate where even $100 donation could be a big financial burden?
Interesting
I completely agree about the contrasting environments, but I think some of our fanbase need to realize that our next coach is very likely not going to be another country boy Fancy Gap Frank. We are going to hire someone who can take Virginia Tech football into a new and very different era.
I think Chip Kelly is one of the brightest in the business. He's an absolute student of the game. He loves to have the best-conditioned team in football, and that means everything from diet to training and so forth. He's an offensive mastermind and one of the biggest innovators in the business from that regard. It would definitely be a culture shock to what we're used to in Blacksburg, but a lot is going to be very different from what we're used to, regardless of who is the next coach.
Keep in mind, Virginia Tech has a large and growing alumni base that extends far beyond the idyllic mountains of the NRV. I think a lot of alumni in the DC/Nova/757 areas and across the nation may be very excited by what a Chip Kelly-esque hire would bring to VT. Perhaps it would also broaden our booster base and expand the Hokie Club. I have no doubt that a slam dunk hire could generate more excitement from a fundraising aspect, and keep in mind, Whit is an expert at just that. No doubt he and the new coach would work in tandem to sell their vision for the future of VT football.
Either way, we are about to enter some unfamiliar territory with this program. It will definitely be different, but it will be exciting nonetheless.
This is a terrific post.
I think this is absolutely true. It will be an interesting ride. Frank has been coaching in Blacksburg longer than I've been alive. It will be strange when that era ends and I'm sure most of Hokie Nation will be overcome with a myriad of emotions. It will be an exciting time and a scary time. There will be cautious optimism. The future is uncertain, which is always a bit uncomfortable, but there is potential for there to be a lot of hope and promise, which are good things to have.
Not a single soul has a clue what the next decade will bring, but I'm ready to hurry up and find out.
Go Hokies!
And, this would be exactly the home run in the ninth with one out hire that Whit might make.
Whit be all like
yep. great point!
and I never said that I wouldn't like having Chip. I just don't have him at the top of my wishlist. Him being a bit eccentric isn't the only reason for that either. I think Herman is much more attainable than Chip Kelly. I don't want to get my hopes up for Kelly because I seriously doubt we'd pull him to the Burg for various reasons. I don't mind getting my hopes up for Herman because I could realistically see him coming to VT
I hope we really are a top tier job to outsiders because I believe Herman will be on the shortlist for most major openings this year. What benefits us is we can sell a much lower pressure atmosphere. We don't have all of Los Angeles critiquing every move the coach makes. Miami will be in a major spotlight since they are always expected to be much better than they are. I could see USCe and us being in similar situations. Replacing legendary coaches who struggled late in their career and neither school is the media spotlight school of the conference. We definitely have a lot to sell to Herman but it may come down to if he is more concerned with the $$ or with finding the right place. (I know we will not short the next coach on $$ but I don't know if we can pay what USCe or USCw could?)
Comparing Kelly to Williams is apt. Both eccentric, highly detail-oriented, use advanced metrics, do things "their way." I think one reason Kelly would be a great coach is the employment of advances in health and science technology. As this Grantland article points out, his attention to health led to the Eagles having the least injured team in 2014, a trend that seems to be reoccurring this year.
I wouldn't mind less injuries for us...
To be fair, I would like to see less injuries across this and every sport but wouldn't we all?
Harbaugh is eccentric too. I'd love to have him.
TBH, I don't see Kelly as super eccentric though. More he sees players as cogs in his football machine. Works OK in college, less so in pros. That said, don't think Kelly will return to college. He's come out and said he hates recruiting and gates dealing with boosters.
I definitely agree that Harbaugh is eccentric. And I'll concede that he's far more eccentric than Kelly. That doesn't mean Kelly isn't at least a little eccentric though.
And I don't think Harbaugh can hold down a single job for more than 4 years. His eccentricities can be dealt with for only so long. He rubs people the wrong way over time and the growing friction between him and upper management creates issues within the program that I'm not interested in having in Blacksburg.
I don't know that Kelly is so eccentric as much that he realizes the very simple fact that if you're going to beat people at their own game, you have to do it a different way. Beamer did this at one point too. I have no insight into him as a person, but the stuff he does with the Eagles, while seeming like weird eccentricities, is mostly common sense stuff that the notably stodgy NFL has been slow to pick up. Having professional athletes eat healthy food isn't all that crazy. Nor is practicing uptempo and using knowledge of science, fitness, and nutrition to get the best out of your people. His roster construction methods are pretty insane, but no more so than Belichick, the Hoodie just happens to be a lot better at it (at least for now). I seriously doubt he's done in the NFL, I think he's got a chip on his shoulder (no pun intended) to show that he can do it his way. But I see him as more of a daring entrepreneur type than a Harbaugh.
Then again, I know nothing of the booster environment at Tech, so maybe they just really want a certain type of guy whose going to do things a certain way, which I would find disappointing, but such is college athletics.
I miss winning...
It is the only thing I care about. I would take Lane Kiffin if it meant winning a title. This is sports. Winning is everything.
To each their own. I would rather win the right way and at the end of the day be able to say that VT has positively changed the lives of these kids and turned them into men we can be proud of. I look at VT football as more than just a sport and our players as more than just their jersey numbers though. I do want to win but I would rather not sacrifice our integrity to do so and I firmly believe we don't need to in order to win.
Yeah, I mean there's definitely risk and if he weren't such a big name he might not be what I would look for in a coach. But honestly, he'd dig us out of our current hole recruiting-wise and accelerate our rebuild faster than almost anyone, and right now I'd be okay with that. Get our brand out of the mud and then, if we have to, worry about finding a better fit later.
Has Chip Kelly's show cause from the NCAA for his role in the Oregon violations expired?
I would be all for that. I would rather watch Hokies games that put up 50+ points every game even if it meant to give up 30-40 points a game too.
50+ points?! The student body would be jacked for all the people tosses and the corps of cadets would look like Arnold from the push-ups!
Gonna need a new skipper (just kidding, skipper should never change).
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Oregon defenses under Kelly weren't anything to scoff at......
Assuming bud would keep his post.......
That sounds like a home run to me.
yea you are right, I was just saying I would take a offensive struggle over a defensive struggle every day of the week, and twice on Sunday!
I prefer 11 on 11 tackle football.
Is Chip still under his NCAA show cause??
No.
Source: SB Nation
This is definitely satire. Iowa State, Maryland, and Hawaii also made the list.
VT actually has a legitimate shot at Chip Kelly, but some stars would need to align. If the Eagles do not fire Kelly, I would imagine that Chip Kelly would only take a Tier 1A job (eg. SoCal) job over the NFL. However, hearing first hand from the SC fans, the SC contingent does not want Kelly (so dumb, but I digress). Of course, fans do not speak for Pat Haden who needs a sure-fire hire to save his job. Nevertheless, if Kelly is fired and he has to choose between the available openings, and assuming VT's HC job is available, I think he chooses between S. Car. or VT.
Thus, VT would need to have an opening (likely). All Tier 1A jobs are not open to Kelly (e.g. SoCal, Texas, Auburn, UGA, etc.). Kelly would prefer to coach at VT over S. Car or hiatus. And timing is right (must assume VT has not hired anyone else before Kelly fired).
Possible, but not probable.
He did have some solid defenses at Oregon. He held a very potent Auburn team in check during that national title shot
When it comes to Chip Kelly, if he's ready to say yes to us, who are we to say no to him?
When the news breaks to Shane that he won't be the next coach at VT:
One thing I hope that our next coach embraces is the culture of VT. Buzz fit very well IMO with the whole family aspect and stressing the importance of developing men as well as basketball players. I hope that we can find the right coach who can carry on that tradition that Beamer started and earned a lot of respect for while also winning. Is Chip that guy who cares that much about what happens to his players once they graduate? Is Herman? I know we will probably have to sacrifice a little of that with a younger, more energetic coach but I don't want to lose it all.
I would love to have a Chip Kelly offense scoring 50 a game, but I also want to see us holding onto the family and community values that VT has built. I am not saying that Chip isn't the guy, I just don't know enough about him to say that he is.
I also think that Whit has made his decision at this point and is already doing some searching behind the scenes, reaching out to his resources and doing his research. (albeit for a new coach this offseason or the next)
and community service. Don't forget that. I love what Buzz does with Buzz's Bunch and I want a coach who will encourage players to reach out and get involved with the community. Ut Prosim is extremely important to VT and I think if a coach can embrace that and get players out into the community to help those in need it will go a long way towards winning over the fan base and community regardless of W/L record.
I would have to be really pitched the positives of any coach who has had an NCAA show cause placed against them.
Check out this article from when the show cause was issued:
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9425972/chip-kelly-owns-m...
The whole incident just looks like another NCAA witchhunt to me. And when you have an organization that is willing to go to these lengths to sully the record of someone (who they even admitted had no role in the wrongdoing), yet will not even touch the scandal that has been going on at UNC for decades, how much bearing can you really put on the NCAA's investigation process at all?
Besides, the 18-month period has long expired. The entire issue is really moot.
I'm not worried about the show cause itself, I'm worried about the reasons it happened in the first place. Whit would need to assure people that Kelly or any coach who has been sanctioned by the NCAA is going to play by the rules.
If it isn't Kelly, we will still have some talent on offense to entice an offense oriented coach to us. Lawson (assuming he stays without Leoffler since he could transfer and redshirt that sit out year), McMillian, Ford, Phillips, Bucky (possibly), and a slew of WRs in this year's class. Gallo will anchor the OL for 2 more seasons and Nijman will be a monster at LT for us.
Healthy Shai and Juice would be nice to see with Kelly's offense too...along with Travon
Agreed that our offensive playmakers are pretty enticing for any OC to get their hands on. Would love to see Bucky, Travon, Ford, Rogers, Phillips, Malleck, hell even Stroman in a fast-paced Chip-esque offense. Also with Nijman, Teller, and crew our OLine seems athletic enough to keep up.