Frank Beamer's final game in Lane Stadium — Heels at Hokies — will kickoff at noon and will be broadcast on ABC, ESPN, ESPN2 or ESPNU. The network will be finalized after the games of Nov. 14.
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Damn.
and that might be the dagger for gameday........
There is precedent here at least, we hosted Gameday in 2007 with a noon kickoff vs ECU. I still have faith.
those were some pretty significant circumstances
More so was trying to point out that noon kick off and still having Gameday can happen, not trying to draw comparisons of the circumstances, clearly they aren't comparable.
Actually, in a way, they are -- in the sense that it's about off-the-field storylines.
VT hasn't been a draw for GameDay due to on the field performances since 2005.
Now, it could be argued that ESPN had all summer to figure out the scheduling for that game, and with it being week 1, it's not like there were a lot of big games to work around. But, having the game at noon gave ESPN an opportunity to show a good portion of the (very emotional) pregame show.
So, if they're anticipating a big "Thanks, Frank" pregame show, then they might be interested in incorporating that into the GameDay broadcast.
I concur
Noon kickoffs ruin lives. Gameday4Frank?????
Noon games Suck. What time is Metallica playing?
2016... maybe
Don't give up...GAMEDAY4FRANK!!
Harvey dent.... Can he be trusted?
I was at work, limited internet access. Message I wanted, but your saying maybe the wrong messenger. \_()_/ (shrugs shoulders)
Half of the time.
#gameday4Frank I think has died.
Hasn't Gameday done a show at 10 ET and had the Texas-OU game at 12 ET? I don't think this is over.
Yeah, in 2011 they had College Gameday lead right up to the Red River Rivalry. It can happen.
I think this actually increases the chances of #Gameday4Frank.
With a noon kickoff they can broadcast from the stadium and have 66k people in the "audience". Also gives them (Herby) plenty of time to travel to the game of the week (most likely will be an 8pm game).
If the plan is to broadcast from the stadium (not sure where from inside the stadium) then you are absolutely correct.
In front of the tunnel so right after corso picks UNC, we trample their set while running out to sandman.
if its anything like the way they did it for OSU I'll pass.. don't think many fans would be in the stadium just to sit around yell and watch them speak about other games instead of tailgating and talking about the memories they have of frank and company..
That wasn't Gameday, that was just doing work in the field.
If we had Gameday, they would probably start the show somewhere outside the stadium, not far from Lane, and then move inside during the final hour. Maybe even show most of the pregame show, which is what they did in 2007.
Of course it is. And it will rain.
... and we will walk to the game up hill... both ways.
Of course it is. And it will
rainsnow.FTFY
Actually, being blacksburg, it will probably raisnowindycaneshine
NOOO im supposed to leave at midnight friday night for that game and i have a 13 hour drive from south florida, i dont know how im going to get there on time
Leave Thursday, drive to Orlando and fly Allegiant from Sanford Orlando Thursday AM to Roanoke (Cheap!). Return flight from Roanoke on Allegiant is Monday. There is a return flight from Tri-Cities (just South of Bristol) on Sunday.
Allegiant is cheap if you can carry on only.
I wish but im still in high school and have school thursday and friday plus my dad wont be home from work till midnight so the late drive is our only option
When I was in high school I probably would have skipped for a game like this, but it sounds like your dad getting off is the limiting factor. Bummer, hope it works out.
Well, we were already planning on arriving in Blacksburg around midnight, just in case. Looks like that's a requirement, now.
Really don't see them doing a full GameDay with this setup. Maybe from inside the stadium...
Don't give up hope. They've done a Gameday at one location and then flown Herbie and co-host to their evening announcing venue before, and they can do it again.
Actually, didn't this happen last week? They had Gameday in Tuscaloosa but the game was broadcast on CBS, so Herbie would have had to have flown somewhere else.
Still plenty hopeful. Just makes our long shot a bit more of a long shot. Never know, there could just be something epic in the works. Yeah, let's go with that.
Yeah, Herbie and Fowler were calling the 3:30 Clemson/FSU game.
In fact....
And last year, the day of our OSU game, GameDay was at Oregon, but Herbie and Fowler (both still on the show) were down in California for the USC/Stanford game at 3:30, although they admit they were pushing it on that one.
If not Fowler and Herbie, I hope that Mike Patrick calls the game. Would be fitting in a way.
But Duke and UVA is a 3:30. I am depressed.
But not on TV just ESPN3.
Really wish we would have had the 3:30 pm kickoff. Gives fans longer to tailgate and get to the game and send Coach Beamer off right. Noon games just suck.
ESPN/Disney does this shit because they know Hokies will still have massive ratings numbers even in that noon hour.
Then they had the audacity to use a photo of Lane Stadium at night with the announcement.
It's the ACC website, we're lucky that they had enough skill to add a picture to the web page.
It was probably outsourced to someone at Raycom.
looks like Noon ENGST (Eastern Night Game Savings time)...every last week of August, The Eastern seaboard rolls their clock back 7 hours to ensure all noon football games are played under the lights. right?
Well that sucks. For once I would love to see an AD (Whit in this pipe-dream scenario) to say "F you, we're kicking off at 6:00 and I don't give a shit what you do about it."
edit: I think my point was missed - this is fantasy. I realize this is not feasible, legal, or going to happen in any scenario.
Goodbye 80% of athletic revenue that was generated by the TV contract....
except in that case, we would not be on TV and millions of Hokies would miss Frank's last home game.
Hello, lawsuit.
And that's where the other 20% would go...
Once again, the ACC has let us down.
I'm sure a lot of people are going to have to change their plans. Even 3:30 would have eliminated any of that.
You know, if I'm UNC, I'm even more pissed. Aside from our own fans trying to get the whole #GameDay4Frank thing going, which was always a longshot, UNC is the front-runner for the Coastal, and will be even if they lose to Miami on Saturday. That should merit a better time slot on its own.
Maybe the 'best' time slot in this case is having the spotlight at noon with Gameday in tow. Let's not kid ourselves, if they were in a later time slot they'd be up against playoff and conference championship implication games, where no one would be watching.
Who cares who would be watching? Hokie fans will watch and a 3:30 time would make a much better environment at Lane. Noon games suck, PERIOD!
UNC being the likely Coastal rep in Charlotte and being Top 15 is what got this game on the Disney networks at the noon slot, which gets lots of viewerships. If it were us vs someone who isn't in Conference title contention, this is a Raycom broadcast, even with it being Beamer's last in Lane.
This will make for a very early morning drive... UGH
*sad Charlie Brown Christmas music*
Will Smith = ACC
The reality is that we never had a shot at the 3:30 time slot because of our home basketball game. It was either noon or night and the hoops game would get the opposite time slot. With that being said, we had no shot at the night slot for 2 reasons IMO. Too many big games going on, with most of them being outside EST so earlier games are less of an option. The other reason is that Blacksburg at the end of November at night is miserable. We should want to enjoy the game and a night game, while exciting, would have been miserable for many. Perhaps that's a pessimistic point of view, but I always felt this was a 12/12:30 game.
Tech helped the ACC satisfy its TV deal with ESPN by playing a Friday night game, and a Labor Day night game. In return, Frank Beamer's home sendoff is a nooner. That aggravates me as a fan.
Wake-Clemson definitely deserved that 3:30 time slot in a division that's already 100% decided. Yep. Makes total sense.
See HokieHi's comment 2 above. Due to our home bball game, a 3:30 football slot was a logistical impossibility
The ACC doesn't give a shit about football. Never has, likely never will.
But if this was the last basketball game for Coach K or Roy Williams, you better believe the ACC would go out of its way to make sure its the headline game at the end of the year.
I completely understand what you're saying but it's kinda different
The 2 have 19 Final 4 appearances and 7 national championships won. Also the last game would also be Duke v. UNC so any year its a primetime game
On the contrary, the ACC helped Tech by giving us the sole slot against a marquee opponent on Labor Day for a night game and a prime night time slot with no competition on a Friday night. 2 opportunities to be in the spotlight, setting the current season record for most watched game against OSU.
ESPN set that date a year in advance. That one wasn't arranged by the ACC
The argument Joe made was that we fulfilled the ACC's obligation to ESPN with our Labor Day game and our Friday night game like they were something that no other team would want. And so because of that we should get something better than a noon game on a national network channel. I disagree and say we got the better end of the deal in all of those situations, regardless of who scheduled the date.
Not for the season ticket holders who have to travel distances to get to the Burg. Remember, the OSU game was originally a Sat. night game.
Actually, it was never scheduled for Saturday night. It had been scheduled for a Saturday, but the time would not have been determined until sometime in the summer. However, ESPN avoided all that by putting it in the Labor Day slot two years in advance.
As for travel, the only issue with a Monday night game is the return trip.
Ultimately, we traded a Thursday night game for a Monday and a Friday.
By purchasing tickets, you accept that you will have some noon games. If prior years' scheduling has been any indication, you would think that we'd have several noon games each year. So when we get our second of the year, on a national network no less, and there's a bunch of backlash, forgive me for not being sympathetic. As I said above, we had a chance at either noon or night because of the basketball game and we weren't getting the night game. Noon on ESPN/ESPN2/ABC or even ESPNU is better than 12:30 on Raycom every day of the week. We got the best option available.
A better question is why is VT scheduling football and basketball on the same day?
Probably an effort to leverage the very high attendance of a football game to generate attendance for basketball, which in years past has had relatively poor attendance, especially for early season games.
Seems like a poor strategy when you think it effects kickoff times for football, it causes logistical issues not to mention it's a game against a low level team so attendance even right after the football game will be poor.
I don't know which came first, but I would imagine the football game's schedule, being set by the ACC, probably trumped whatever was going to happen with basketball. Of the early season games, only the one on 11/21 remained "TBA" until just the other day. So I would argue that basketball didn't affect football, likely the other way around.
Yup. Play up the double-header to take advantage of the thousands of folks already in town for football and attract them to Cassell. It's a great way to get additional revenue on a single day.
Indeed. This is frequently done with other sports like soccer and volleyball.
Correct but with set times to start basketball and football and a lot more flexibility with Olympic sports start times having basketball and football on same day as pointed out forced a noon kickoff.
Basketball didn't cause the noon kickoff for football. Football was decided first.
http://www.hokiesports.com/mbasketball/recaps/20150917aaa.html
Exactly. What forced a noon kickoff was a current 4-5 record and a tough slate of games nationally that day. Basketball only eliminated the mid-afternoon game due to logistics.
That's my issue basketball should hold no sway of any kind over the start time available to football.
You don't overlap two major sports where you can make money. They won't even overlap other sports during football and basketball. You'd never see a soccer match overlap with football. In fact, other than things like track meets, tennis matches, and golf tournaments, I don't think we ever really overlap any sports. We do the double-headers, but each sport has their time slot. There's also the issue of security. Instead of moving some of the event security folks from football over to basketball after the game ends, you'd have to double up on the numbers needed. Then there's the fact that the some of the cheerleaders, high techs, MVs, emcee's and broadcast teams for both sports are the same. So really, you're asking for us to double our entire game support staff just so that on ONE day, we can overlap the sports.
Correct so what should have happened was football is at 3:30 and basketball starts 2 hours after football game is over. A noon kickoff is shit for people like me who live 6 plus hours away from Blacksburg (a sizable portion of the people who will be there for Beamers last home game) basketball especially against a shit opponent should be a zero factor in decidingM the start time for this game. If basketball tips off at midnight o well.
Sorry, this is a very selfish set of statements. It's about far more than you my friend. I tried to give you the real reason behind the logistics and explain why it matters, but apparently you matter for more than the rest of the people involved in the games. I really don't have much more to say that hasn't already been said.
It's not about me it's about 60,000 people my guess much more trying to get to Blacksburg for the LAST HOME GAME Frank Beamer will EVER coach. Nothing else matters that day. If a basketball game played into the noon kickoff that is a failure of the school and athletic dept. not sure why a 3:30 kickoff would be impossible to manage. Kickoff is 3:30 football should be over and Labe cleared by 8 tipoff for basketball is at 9 pm. I've gone to every VCU basketball game from 1983 until 2006. Plenty of those tipoff happened after 8pm.
Expecting a 3:30 game to be cleared by 8:00 is totally unreasonable. The game will have just ended, especially because I expect some postgame stuff to go on, and you need to add to the fact that the BT runs right at Cassell to deliver those 66,000+ people away from the stadium. Lines for buses often take more than an hour to dissipate. Moreover, the basketball game that day is part of a small tournament and the date was set months ago, and certainly well before anyone knew about Beamer's retirement.
The school must do what is in its best interest financially as well as publicly. The noon kickoff kind of sucks but it is logistically necessary and completely defensible. It makes the most of an opportunity and gives a chance to spotlight the basketball team; Buzz has been working his ass off to promote Frank's last game. The least the VT community can do is head over for basketball afterward as a celebration and show of unity among the fan base.
I can't help but notice that VCU doesn't have a football team. And the basketball and football schedules are made independently of one another not decided by the school. Its happened many years in the past and has gone relatively smoothly.
Alright, scenario. I'd imagine most of the folks who work the security for the games are contracted. In their contracts lays out a specific working schedule. They must be at the game 2 hours before it starts (1:30 for a 3:30 game) and likely at least an hour after it ends. So assume the game lasts 3 hours, until 6:30. That's assuming no overtimes or other major delays play into it. So now they are there until 7:30. But wait, tipoff for basketball is at 9 and they need to be in Cassell by 7. So they head straight over to Cassell. Let's assume the basketball game lasts about 2 hours. So it's over by 11 and they still have to be there an hour after, until midnight. So they have now worked from 1:30 to midnight with no breaks. Perhaps they got a meal in there, since I'd imagine that's in their contract, but certainly working that many hours is against their contract terms.
But ignore the security, now you have unpaid students who are cheerleaders, MVs, and high techs. Those folks have been out getting ready before the football game for about 4 hours before it started. So they got out there at 11:30 AM for that 3:30 kickoff. Then, they were around for about half an hour after the game ended before they were dismissed, so they left the game around 7. But those who are on basketball groups need to be there about 90 minutes before tipoff, so they have 30 minutes to mosey over to Cassell and get situated. Then they are around again for maybe half an hour after the game ends and get out around 11:30 PM. Mind you that none of these folks get paid for any of this at all, but they just gave you 12 hours of their day for your entertainment. Overlap the two games at all and you have no in-game entertainment. Nevermind the fact that the emcee for basketball is the announcer for the MVs at football or that Mike and John call the games for both sports.
Or perhaps we look at the recruits who are around for a visit. Basketball recruits will often head to the football games, but they also want to be around the coaches and team as they are getting prepped for the game. How does that work out?
Again, you have to look outside of what affects you and look at the entire scope of what goes into supporting a single game. You have to set yourself up for success, not borderline failure if ANYTHING goes outside the norm. Separating the games by roughly 4 hours makes sure that you have that cushion if anything goes wrong.
/end rant
^ he gets it...
Yea but you can't plan for that, the people who work the game are required to be in the stadium 2 hours to 90 minutes before the game. If you get a quadruple overtime game for football it makes everything a mess.
The issue is that a lot of the people who work basketball games also work football games, staff, security, stats, media.
This is the wrong way to play this hand. Strategically, Virginia Tech always wants its best / most marketable home game of the year on a Saturday, not on a Thursday, Friday or Monday night. That increases the odds for more Virginia Tech exposure. Virginia Tech vs. a marquee non-conference school, or one of its marquee divisional opponents has a better chance to kickoff at 3:30 or later on a Saturday. Meanwhile, a lesser conference opponent has the benefit of the guaranteed (partial) exclusivity of Thursday, Friday or Monday night and doesn't have to compete with the NFL (Thursday nights).
You've lost me here. Why is it better to face national competition on a Saturday rather than being the exclusive option for college football viewers on a holiday Monday night or a Friday night? If the argument was that it was better for Blacksburg and the surrounding area, I won't disagree. But as far as the national recognition and brand exposure, it would seem the better option would be when you are the only option, not when the average viewer can flip somewhere else at any time. I'd go so far as to say that Thursday nights are no longer desirable for national recognition thanks to the NFL moving to Thursdays. Smaller teams can use Thursdays to build something, but it's not a good place to be for a major team with professional competition. Friday nights are going to become the new Thursday night and it's time for folks to embrace that.
The only thing that hurt Tech by getting the Labor Day game was that we lost out on the chance to have GameDay in Blacksburg in week one, which I'm fairly sure would have happened if we had a Saturday game.
But then, VT and OSU were helped by the lack of competition. If we had played on Saturday night, we would have been going against Alabama/Wisconsin, and all of the other neutral site games. And the Chick-fil-a Game in Atlanta is already getting pushed around like a redheaded stepchild, getting bumped over to CBS at 3:30.
Virginia Tech-Ohio State would have most likely been an 8:00 PM kickoff on a Saturday night. If you replace that matchup on Monday night with Virginia Tech vs. (less name brand opponent [LNBO] ) destined for a noon game, the sums of the parts are greater. I think more combined people would watch VT vs. LNBO on Monday night (as you said, it's the only option) and VT-OSU on a Saturday, than the other way around. Also, I agree viewers flipping channels is an issue, but networks are known to schedule around each other's big games.
But I think you have to consider it in the situation it was presented. Opening weekend, we would not have benefited from playing OSU on Saturday given the other slate of games. Any other week, you're 100% correct that the game has 8 PM written all over it. And with regards to playing a lesser opponent on Labor Day night, the ACC just wouldn't have done that. 2014, the ACC opened Labor Day with newcomer Louisville, fresh off a 12-1 season against Miami. 2013 they opened with FSU vs Pitt, another ACC newcomer. 2012 was us against GT which was a good rivalry game and at a time when we were actually ranked. My point is that the ACC won't have that Labor Day game be anything other than something meaningful, whether it's a marquee non-conference game or a conference game with a good story line. You'll never see a game of anyone against a Group of 5 team, like us against ECU, on Labor Day night. Most folks will just skip watching that altogether. I understand what you're trying to say, but I believe the number of folks watching the opposite of your scenario is greater personally.
EDIT: I realize my point isn't really made clear enough because even I had a hard time finding it after re-reading that. If OSU was on a Saturday a different week of the season, we would have not played a LNBO on Labor Day. We would have played a conference opponent with a good story line. In that scenario, I can see where the numbers would be greater. But we would never have a game against a LNBO on Labor Day based upon the ACC's scheduling in the past for that game.
VT only got the Labor Day slot because we were playing Ohio State at home. It was arguably the biggest game available in the ACC TV package, so it got the best available time slot.
If we didn't have #1 OSU on the schedule, then we would not have been on Labor Day. I'm sure they would have picked FSU against Clemson or Miami.
Except for the reality the Labor Day Monday night football gets the amazing ratings. In fact, the VT-OSU game viewership had 10.58M viewers. No Saturday night prime game has had over 8M all season.
Source
Ratings only benefit the networks, not Tech. We don't get any additional revenue from the contract and it is the environment at Lane that sells most of our big time recruits on Tech. Noon starts suck for that.
And perhaps, just perhaps, VT gets a primetime game for Frank's send-off if we don't lose 5 games in the first half of the season. Just sayin.... #keepinitreal
Upon further consideration, perhaps there's also not the need for a send-off for Frank if we don't lose 5 games in the first half of the season....
I don't think Tech Helped the ACC, I think Tech wanted, and ESPN and ACC were like ok...sure
When's the last time a game was pre-set 2 years in advance. The info for Bristol that was sent out only said September 2016
This grossly limits my number of pre-game rails. Ugh.
...but drastically increases celebration rails post-game!
Glass = half full (of bourbon)
At some point, we just need to come to grips with the fact that outside of our community of fans, just not that many people give a shit about VT (and unfortunately about Frank coaching his last game in Lane). It is not an event for anybody but us, which saddens me for Frank more than anything else.
That is sadly what happens when are the definition of medicore for a number of years, and could never get to the top even in the years where you wern't.
Have to disagree, VT has been one of the top TV draws in almost any time slot they are put in. In fact the anOSU/VT game is highest rated game thus far this year.
I would say that has as much if not more to do with the fact of an OSU team that has a massive following/massive amount of people wanting to see them lose, coupled with a prime time exclusive game on a national holiday.
The casual fan did not tune that game in for VT...
That would make sense except VT has been part of some of ESPN best rated games, add in the fact that ESPNU AND ESPN2 have the Hokies has their best TV draws year in and year out it says something about VT and TV viewership.
That AND VT was the only team to beat them previous year.
People give a shit about VT
People don't give a shit about a 4-5 squad who's coach is already resigning at season's end who is all but eliminated from the division title race.
I still don't get the chasm between Spurrier LEADING every ESPN show after resignation and Beamer barely getting a passing mention.
I understand that Spurrier's resignation was different, but once you got past that, people talked about "everything he did for college football" and his "outgoing personality" BLAH BLAH BLAH. He even said he isn't retiring, he's just resigning.
But when Beamer does it the right way...the way Bowden, Paterno and Spurrier couldn't, he gets 30 second mentions and few people give it any attention. it isn't like Spurrier's teams were killing it on the field that past couple years either.
Because Spurrier won a National Title and Beamer didn't.
It's so weird to me how the difference between a great college coach who won a title would be so stark from someone like Beamer, Snyder, Schmebechler, Fry and Dye in their respective eras when it comes to media coverage.
I had no idea he did and neither does 50% of the other people that watch College football.
That's more what I meant. It still applies to the other squads we have had the past few seasons. Although maybe not 4-5, they were equally not as compelling to any kind of national audience.
Isn't CFB on record as saying he prefers noon games because it's easier to keep the players focused?
If so then this is an appropriate choice of kickoff time.
And, while I would strongly prefer a 3:30pm kickoff, 12pm suits my schedule better than 8pm.
#GameDay4Frank was just taken out behind the woodshed by the ACC kickoff scheduling
It could be worse...the kickoff could be at 12:30, everyone knows what that means.
Are you referring to the Jefferson Starship #goacc Game of the Week brought to you by Bojangles' BIG BO-BOX, the Havoline Motor Oil #goacc Boston College Buttfumble of the week, and the North Carolina Trust for the Tobacco Board of Trustees Saturday snoozefest of the week? BECAUSE THIS TERRIBLE DISPLAY OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL PRODUCTION VALUE IS THE ONLY WAY I GET TO SLEEP ANYMORE SINCE THE WIFE AND I JUST HAD OUR FIRST CHILD AND SHE LIKES TO SCREAM NONSTOP BETWEEN THE HOURS OF MIDNIGHT AND SIX A.M.
Why does your wife like to scream between the hours of midnight and 6 am?
Unless of course that's a 6 to 12 reference and I'm missing it.
You just described my life. Luckily mine doesn't scream, she just wants to be awake and eat and poop. It's an awful spiral.
Welp, nobody likes this outcome. But now it's important that we all to move forward, be drunk by 8 a.m. next Seerdee, and beat the shit out of UNC.
I'm too old to properly tailgate for nooners anymore.
Yup, GameDay4Frank is over. Might as well accept that and not be in denial.
But it's fine, so what if ESPN don't bring their crew here? Frank has always been a down to Earth guy I doubt he really gives two shits either way as long as the Hokie nation is behind him screaming their butts off.
Time to find another way of honoring Frank, something more personal that the Hokie nation will appreciate. Gameday would've been nice but that was never the highlight for me. Time to move on and make the nooner the best damn sendoff anyone has ever seen.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?????
Boo hiss.
... at least I bought a breakfast/brunch recipes magazine earlier this year that has a tailgating section in it?
Noon!?!
techsideline had a good article on ratings for noon games on ESPN or ABC. It could mean more viewers for the game.
For me, going in person...it sucks. I was hoping for 3:30. Now I'm probably taking some time off of work on Friday to drive there instead of early Sat morning.
Yeah, because all TSL cares about is ESPN's revenue. The ratings differences mean nothing financially for Tech and college football exposure is overrated for the day games. It only affects ESPN's revenue. There is no evidence that recruits give a crap about day game times on TV. They do care about the environment that they will play in and 3:30 start is a much better environment than nooners. As CFB has said in the past, later games allow the Hokie Fans to "Get Right" for the game.
wat?
For the rest of your argument I think while nooners suck the case can be made that it could in some way help VT and ACC. The more viewership we can show we attract the stronger the bargaining power for the ACC in new television rights deals.... now to just make sure Swofford doesn't negotiate the next one....
So do I leave at 4/5 am Sat morning or go up night before but leave as soon as game is over?
ah yes, the old question: sand enema or root canal?
seriously, though. I'd lean towards coming up the night before. I'd hate to be rolling into town on game day after a 6 hour drive and have very little time to tailgate before having to hoof it to the stadium. Tailgating is about hanging out and enjoying yourself not being rushed. You're already getting cheated out of a late start to tailgating, don't make it worse by showing up 2 hours before game time...
I'm coming up the night before.
Well that sucks... Hopefully if Gameday comes they can show Enter Sandman right at the end of the broadcast for the whole nation to enjoy
Let's just hope we can stop UNCs offense. =/
Can we start a #BanNoonKickoffs movement as successful as #GameDay4Frank?
This is only our third nooner this season, second at home. Compared to 7 that we had last year. (And three of the remaining games were on weekdays, so that's probably the only thing keeping us from 10 noon games last year.)
Basically, though, 2 out of the only 3 games that we could have gotten a noon game, we've gotten a noon game. OSU was predecided at 8pm, the Friday night game vs. NC State could not have been noon, Furman could have been noon - but a weak out of conference team vs. ACC is destined for non-noon, Duke, Pitt, and UNC all destined for noon, or 3:30.
I'll echo above - if I'm UNC, I'm pissed we play at noon being a contender for the ACC crown! UNC should have 3:30 or later games for the rest of the season. See Klemptsin
The only ones guaranteed not at noon were OSU, NC State, GT, and Furman. The first three for being on different days, and the last because it was the only one Whit had control over.
More often than not, all of us would have guessed Purdue and ECU would have been at noon.
After last season, and how this season started, I'm surprised that we're getting through the season with less than half of the games kicking off before 1.
This isn't the end for hopes of Gameday. Here's the deal:
The big games on Nov 21st are the following:
OSU/MSU
Baylor/OKSt
TCU/Ok
LSU/Ole Miss
Memphis/Temple
TCU lost last weekend, Ok has already lost to Texas. Baylor and OkSt are in the driver's seat(s) for playoff contention and conference championships. MSU just lust, so did Memphis and Temple lost last week. Ole Miss is all but out of it and LSU lost to Alabama.
I think this leaves Gameday with a few options:
1) OSU/MSU: this is probably the most tempting game for them, two Big Ten opponents with awesome records (assuming they win until then). Downside: If Michigan keeps winning as well, the OSU/Mich game the next week is an even better game. Do they go with the possibility of having OSU twice in a row?
2) The better of the two Big 12 games. OK@Baylor is getting Gameday this weekend. Depending on the outcome, either the OK/TCU game will be irrelevant to the Big12 championship or Baylor@OKSt could be two undefeateds. But do they do two Baylors in a row? Also don't forget the following two things:
a) There's a chance these top Big 12 games could be on Fox. Does ESPN want to promote a game that isn't on their own network? (They did it with Alabama/LSU but they have an SEC Network partnership to worry about)
b) The Big 12 doesn't have a conference championship game so they play some games on championship Saturday, so there is one more regular season weekend for them.
Finally,
3) #Gameday4Frank. This will be the most electric atmosphere, and this will be the best storyline of the weekend. Gameday is all about the storylines, not only the best matchups (hell, they went to JMU, didn't they? they went to North Dakota State or wherever, didn't they?). Loyalty doesn't mean a thing if we're up against a major game with playoff implications, but I wouldn't count us out yet.
Frank made a living on getting under-recruited guys to perform above their level, and right now we have an low-hype game that will require a bunch of nurturing and development to be an attractive proposition.
So keep it up, there are only a few days left to get this stuff on ESPN's radar.
Obviously, the JMU/Richmond game wasn't on ESPN (It was on CSN, part of NBC). I think last year, the Michigan State/Oregon game was on Fox. In 2013, they went to the Big Ten champ game, which was on Fox.
The only two Big 12 games scheduled for December 5 are Texas at Baylor and WVU at Kansas State. It's a safe bet to say that GameDay will be at one of the championship games.
Anyone know what time the Hokie Walk will be with a noon game? We are driving from SC to Greensboro night before and that morning I want to be in Blacksburg for the Hokie Walk.
It's usually two hours before kickoff, give or take.
What BlueHokie Said.
It'll come out officially On or about 5 days before the game.
Only half the time.
Wouldn't it be cool if instead of having the players names on the jerseys we had Beamer on them and his number and instead of theirs
the name i can get on board with, but if everyone was #25 it would be a nightmare for the stats crew and anyone calling the game.
Name could work. Number wouldn't. Need to have numbers so the refs can identify players for penalties etc. Whoever keeps track of stats and points needs to be able to identify players also.
I've seen players have their names swapped out before so I know that's possible. I think Under Armor does it for their military appreciation games. I think one year MD had last names replaced with words like "Courage" and "Honor". they didn't have enough different words for all of the players so there were duplicates. The players all had their own numbers though so I believe it was a non-issue.
The NCAA makes special exceptions for certain cases like military tributes. But the list of exceptions is very small, perhaps only for military.
Disrespect.
Doesn't matter though, I'll be waking up extra early regardless to get a spot close to the Gameday set.