Buzzketball Splits in Emerald Coast Classic

The Hokies get rocked against Iowa State, but come back with an overtime victory over UAB.

[Mark Umansky]

If asked what they did over their Thanksgiving break, the Virginia Tech men's basketball team could provide a lot of answers.

They could keep it simple and say the just traveled down to Florida to play in the Emerald Coast Classic, an early season tournament no one's heard of which broadcasted the majority of its contests via an announcerless Youtube stream (seriously).

The Hokies could talk about playing one of the five best teams in the country in Iowa State, and getting their doors blown off in the process. The Cyclones gashed their way to a 22-point first half lead and beat Tech 99-77, illustrating just how behind the team from Blacksburg is from the upper echelon of the sport.

Or they could talk about the thrilling finale of the weekend, an overtime victory over UAB which wiped at least some of the sour taste away from the trip. In Tech's most complete game to date the Hokies grinded their way to a 82-77 win, Seth Allen looked his best in maroon (23 points in a much calmer effort) and the team showed the glimpses of promise fans have looked for since the year began.

The win wasn't enough to overlook the drubbing the day before, but the outcome as a whole wasn't bad enough to just dwell on the loss. The Hokies showed some backbreaking flaws, but did enough by the final horn on Saturday to make you think there's progress being made.

There was both good and bad over the team's holiday trip, and what's important now is to separate what they do well and where they need to improve.

Good:

Let's start off with something positive, shall we? The biggest offensive problem a year ago was the team's inability to break down a defense off the dribble. The only person who could do it consistently was Devin Wilson, and his lack of a jumper made it easy for opponents to prevent blow bys.

Now? The Hokies have plenty of players who can win a one-on-one matchup. Even in the dumpster fire against the Cyclones, Chris Clarke, Justin Robinson and Seth Allen all beat their men with the ball in their hands. Did it always end well? No. But it often resulted in either a shot close to the basket or a trip to the line (which we'll talk about later).

Zach LeDay showed some nifty moves through the lane as well, and while it's unclear what position he plays (I lean towards undersized power forward, but that certainly has its problems defensively), he continued to look impressive throughout the tournament. Now Buzz has the option to play three different players who're threats to get to the hoop at one time, which means if their spacing is good (which it's not always), they can put their opponents in a bind nearly every possession.

Bad:

This team won't get any better if the defense doesn't improve. I know Iowa State moves the ball spectacularly, can shoot from all over the floor and puts even the best teams in a tricky spot to guard them. But simply put, if you allow 99 points in a college game you need to reconsider a lot of things, because it's embarrassing.

The coaching staff tried multiple looks over the course of the weekend. Half court man-to-man, zone press and half court zone. The Cyclones dismantled everything Williams threw at them, and while the Hokies came out with a better showing against the Blazers, there were still gaping lapses which lead to open shots (threes in particular).

Their struggles go beyond facing an offensive juggernaut. It doesn't matter what scheme they throw out there, if the players don't improve defensively the team won't be any better than they were last season. It's about closing out quickly, with two hands up on shooter. It's about not losing your man away from the ball. It's about communicating and battling to combat screens. Right now there's a little of this. An average defense does it consistently, and a good one never fails to execute. Can it get better? In theory, yes, and it improved on many possessions against UAB. But is it something I'm willing to gamble on? Not a chance.

Good:

Justin Robinson at point guard. He's the foot on the gas pedal of the offense, and plays with a nice pace for most of his minutes. He'll need to learn when it's better to slow things down, or calm his teammates when they start moving too fast to be successful (see the frantic chaos as Iowa State pulled away in the first half). But that's a veteran move which'll come with age.

The freshman has a solid first step and was able to get into the paint and land a few shots early both nights. But his scoring isn't what's most impressive about him, it's the way his presence impacts the play of those around him. The assist numbers don't show it, but when Robinson plays the ball moves quicker. His passes are just a little bit crisper, and the team seems to find an open look more frequently.

Despite his performance, he continues to split time with Devin Wilson and Seth Allen, each getting roughly the same amount of minutes. If I had to guess where this goes moving forward, Robinson gets the bulk of the action, Allen'll see almost all of his on the wing as an undersized shooting guard and Wilson will pick up the scraps. His lack of a midrange game (or anything outside of two feet) still plagues him, and though he reads the floor well Wilson still has a negative impact on spacing.

Robinson rushes decisions and can be sped into choices that make you put your hands on your head, an attempted lob that hit the top of the backboard against UAB comes to mind. But the freshman is explosive and can make things happen. For example: on a loose ball rebound against the Blazers, he dove to the floor, grabbed the ball and made a perfect pass from his keister to the opposite corner.

Now the subsequent shot was missed, but you get the point.

Bad:

Robinson's pace is fun, but his team's is often not. The Hokies play too fast, and it results in a ton of wincingly bad turnovers. In my opinion they should play with tempo, their athletes getting up and down is an advantage, but in the half court it looks almost jittery. Players sometimes end up in the same spot, one will cut through the middle right as another drives with the ball (often resulting in a disastrous cluster three feet from the rim) and Clarke moves around with reckless abandon.

Clarke's athletic ability is wowing, and he's the perfect head of a trap defense, but the guy likes to run around. Against Iowa State he ran into his own teammate, while they were taking a jumper. I don't think you can get credit for a block on your own guy, but it was something to see.

As the team grows this should, again should, get better. Calming things down just a little would help with the spacing problem, which would in turn help with the miscues.

Bad:

I know it's early, but the Hokies are going to the line a LOT. As in, of this writing, the most times in the country a lot. Tech has shot 210 free throw this season, and if they continue such a pace (although unlikely since it's such a small sample size) these misses will be both infuriating and debilitating.

Tech shot under 50% against the Cyclones on Friday, and I know it wouldn't have made a difference since they could do whatever they wanted on the other end, but it made the thought of a comeback impossible. Against UAB, however, things turned around. Not only did the team convert 75% of their 32 tries, but LeDay, Allen and Clarke hit nine of the last 10 attempts down the stretch. And not so coincidentally, the clutch ability from the line played a heavy hand in the win.

This is a complete guess, but to me it looks like the coaching staff wants to take advantage of the new rule changes limiting contact and handcuffing defenses. They have the players to do it, and foul trouble is kryptonite for many a team, but it's useless if you can't convert the chances you're given.

Good:

And a quick note to end on: I think Buzz found his best lineup. It's not ideal, and certainly not one to fix any defensive woes, but it's what he used for the majority of the second half of both games.

Down the stretch on Saturday, the Hokies threw out either Robinson or Wilson with Allen, Bibbs, Clarke and LeDay. It's hyper-small, but hyper-aggressive and uses Clarke's endless abundance of energy to fight with bigger players.

It obviously won't work well against teams with size (think a Florida State or a North Carolina) but I think it'll be a nice quirk to use for five minute bursts of scoring efficiency. And when the coaches have to put in a bigger body like Johnny Hamilton, who stays on as the power forward? It's been LeDay's spot so far, but Clarke took a few minutes away from him against the Blazers and made an impact.

It's far too early in the season to be overly concerned with a team's flaws or very happy with what they do successfully. The Hokies did about as well as anyone expected, coming back from Florida with a split, but it's important to remember the win didn't even come against a power-five team. It's progress, but let's wait and see how they perform against Northwestern on Tuesday before we say how much this team is actually improving.

Comments

Thoughts:
1. Robinson is our best (only) true PG since ....? I would say since Al Young.
2. I prefer the broadcast without the announcers and wish that was always available (seriously)
3. So far, Allen is a hindrance to everything this team is trying to accomplish...hopefully, we start seeing more Hudson in that role

I was disappointed with the announcers as well. Also seriously.

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Your third bullet should be number one with stars, in bold print and all caps. Its like watching Malcolm Delaney as a senior but with no defense whatsoever and unfortunately with the shooting numbers of someone with block hands. 7-19 is not getting it done even when you go 7-8 from the line when you cant cover anyone and you turn the ball over or get an offensive foul at critical moments in almost every game.

We would have lost this game if it wasn't for Devin Wilson hitting six straight free throws late in regulation.

Hopefully Allen shakes this "rust" before long or we are in for a long season.

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

A freshman as the best PG we've had since Young? To be a good ACC PG, it usually takes a phenom and/or a couple of years of hard work. I only watched the one game and Robinson has potential but he will be challenged in ACC play. Have to say I expected more out of Wilson. You gotta get much better every summer. Handle, shot, etc. Wake me when any of our ball handlers shows work ethic above and beyond. Because of our coaching and player turnover I feel like none of these kids have shown continuous growth.

Then getting all over the leading scorer?

Come on man. Every team needs guys to step up and score.

If you want your leading scorer to play with a better percentage you gotta show who is gonna take his points and how is he gonna get them.

I like the ball movement the team has but I think the shorter shot clock is hurting them. They all probably realize they have to find a more "succinct" offense. They get this going I think Allen will have to score less pass more. Especially in ACC play as we don't have many scorers and the ones who are good are gonna face really good defenders. Wilson and Robinson are going to have to run the offense while penetrating and scoring more. These guys are both a little shy about tossing up the rock and/or penetrating.

We seem to have plenty of time when Allen is not in the game ... if our offense (and defense) is more effective without him, it should be apparent to our statisticians. Until then, Allen to me is the only guy besides LeDay with the balls to put up points by putting up shots that aren't great shots. Yes I'm all for better shots, better offensive systems, having other guys be more aggressive, but until that happens, you got what you got and all you can do is coach it up. Allen can play... yes his D seems to be very poor... his running the O / shot selection leaves something to be desired. He's gonna get better... in the interim, who else gonna put the points on the board?

The problem here is no one else is going to develop their shot or be able to attempt to score because of how often Allen takes away the opportunity for others by pressing the ball into the lane unnecessarily and putting up bad shots quite often. That's why I compared him to Delaney as a senior. No one else that year developed because Malcolm was the offense. As a redshirt Junior that was expected to be the point guard, playing the way he is isn't acceptable. Many of the times he has driven into the lane there are wide open teammates in better shooting positions that he could pass to, but he isn't interested in passing once he puts his head down to go, many times for the bad of the team now and in the future. I am not saying he isn't talented, although on defense that could be questioned. Its night and day between his offense and his defense.

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

How quickly we forget about Allen's two giant threes in the second half. There's a reason he plays at the end of regulation and in OT against UAB, he's one of the best five players on the team. Tech doesn't win on Saturday without him, he has the balls to take a shot in a tight game, and showed some life defensively (though obviously still wasn't great).

He's not a hinderance to what tech does, he actually is the best at the best thing they do (get to the rim). He needs to improve, yes, but to imply that he's some albatross sinking this team into a losing abyss is pretty absurd.

He is one of the top five players on this team, and he should be playing. That isnt my issue. My issue is that his approach does indeed hurt the team long term because every time he goes in and throws up junk in the lane rather than hit a wide open teammate to take a good shot its one more time a teammate isnt improving and might not be able to be relied on when it matters, such as games when Allen and Leday are both on the bench in foul trouble. He needs to drastically improve on passing out of the lane and considerably more on the defensive end before I consider him where he needs to be as our starting point guard.

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Agree about the out of control pace... The team definitely needs to learn when to hit the gas and attack vs when to sit back and play with deliberation.

Unfortunately Allen seemed like a big culprit of the out of control pacing despite being a rJR. Plus he seems to be playing 1v5 sometimes, driving to the basket and taking bad shots instead of passing to an open teammate. He has shown some flashes of meshing with his teammates, but he's got to make that the norm instead of the exception by the time we get to league play.

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Good analysis, though I think you could add rebounding to the "Good" section - we were horrible on the boards last year, but are more than holding our own so far this year. Outside of the second half against VMI, you could also add 3 point shooting to the "Bad" section.

I also don't see a need to discount the UAB win by saying "it wasn't against a Power 5 team". In D-1 basketball where there are something like 340 teams and growing, there are plenty of good non Power 5 teams. UAB is a team that won 2 games in the NCAA tourney last year, and I believe had a fair number of starters back. I was pleased as heck to win that one yesterday.

UAB only won one tourney game last year. Regardless, getting to and winning a tourney game is somewhere we haven't been in a long time. This was a good win for us.

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My bad - I was thinking they had won a play in game before knocking off Iowa St.

The team's FT% drastically improved after the terrible outing vs. Jacksonville State. I have NEVER seen a VT basketball team improve free throw shooting that quickly, and yes I watched the Iowa State game. For those that didn't, the Iowa State game was officiated VASTLY different that every other game this season and was much more physical. This team appears to shoot a better pct. from the line the more they get to the line. In the Iowa State game we got to the line so few times in the 1st half, and it clearly affected the percentage.

FT shooting in last 4 games:
VMI- 24/33 , 72%
A&T- 34/50, 68%
Iowa St.- 12/25 ...... very few in the first half
UAB- 24/32, 75%

Much improved since the first two games...excluding the Iowa State game which had the fewest foul total in any of our games all year (and clearly hurt our strategy to take advantage of the new rules and get to the line), we have made strides. There is room for improvement but mostly in getting the right people to the line.

Leday, Allen, Robinson, Wilson, Hudson, are all shooting 70-75% and I expect Allen/Wilson to improve on that
The guys hurting us are- Bibbs (4/10), Henry (2/10), Blackshear (5/14), Hamilton (5/11)... and Clarke is not as bad but...

Clarke is shooting 68% and getting to the line ALOT (37 att., 2nd behind Leday). He needs to improve that #, and obviously Bibbs should be shooting better than 40% but he hasn't gone nearly as much as our other guards and wings