Justin Fuente's Virginia Tech coaching staff has two more reported additions.
Thursday FootballScoop published a single-sourced report claiming Memphis co-offensive coordinator and quarterbacks Brad Cornelsen will join the Hokies' ranks after the Tigers' bowl game. Thayer Evans of Sports Illustrated reported Cornelsen will be the Hokies' offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. 2015 is Cornelsen's fourth season coaching Memphis' quarterbacks. He was named Memphis' co-offensive coordinator in January. Cornelsen impacted the development of QB Paxton Lynch (projected by plenty of analysts to be the top QB selected in the 2016 NFL Draft), and in 2012 mentored Jacob Karam (64%, 1,895 yards, 14 TDs, 3 INTs).
Wednesday Jason Stamm of HokieHaven.com reported Memphis OL coach Vance Vice will also head to Blacksburg after Memphis' bowl game. Vice coached Murray State's offensive line in 1999 during Justin Fuente senior season. Statistics paint an incomplete picture of o-line production, but it's worth a quick examination. Memphis' offensive line ranked T-21st, 18th, T-88th, 61st in sacks allowed per game from 2015-2012, respectively. Advanced statistics better distinguish between o-line and running back accountability in rushing production. In the 2015 regular season, Memphis ranked 75th (38.5%) in Opportunity Rate, 35th (72.0%) in Power Success Rate, and 79th (19.9%) in Stuff Rate according to Football Study Hall's advanced statistical profile of Memphis. The three are defined in-depth by Football Study Hall, but briefly Memphis' o-line faired very well rushing in short yardage situations, but below average otherwise.
Don't expect any of these hires to be officially announced until after the Tigers' bowl game.
"I want to be sure I pay due respect to the University of Memphis by making sure that they have enough guys there to win their bowl game because I want them to go win," Fuente said when asked about a timeline for putting his staff together at an introductory press conference Monday. "...There will be some guys that will stay there the entire time until they're done and then we'll bring them aboard."
Cornelsen and Vice discuss their coaching philosophy, background and recruiting in the videos below.
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The future of our offensive line is in the hands of this man:
I thought Searels was doing a decent job with what he had, but it's Fuente's choice.
Fuente trusts this guy, so I'm going to go with that. I guess we all are.
lol...the hoos will have a field day with this one...
To be fair so are we
So this just came to me....
What are our thoughts on Maroon fake mustaches being a Gameday thing?
I just feel like it would be a huge disservice to NOT do it for "Stash" Vice.
that would be hilarious.
But only if they're really great OL.
Refer to picture above, I think its pretty clear were in good hands...
Awesome.
If he were the coach of any other position, I'd be concerned.
Good point. That much awesome at a more visible position might get hired away prett fast if we aren't careful.
I mean, linemen are often referred to as "big uglies..."
He definitely has that "Offensive Lineman Coach from Oklahoma" look.
This was either fresh off a fishing boat or a ski trip where you forget about the reflection of the sun off the water/snow and get the unexpected sunglasses burn line. By the looks of the mullet and 'stache combo, my (stereotyping) money is on fishing boat.
Doesn't look like a mullet in the video, not that there's anything wrong with a mullet. Looks like our QB may get more time before being mauled, based purely on past Memphis O line stats. Let's hope that is the case.
There has been a long and proud tradition of glorious mullets on the OL. He is sort of limping in here, go long or go home!
Are you referring to the mullet on his head or on his lip?
Isn't that what offensive linemen are supposed to look like?
He's one missed barber appointment from a full blown mullet.
NTTAWWT.
The defensive coaches at VT have always had a tough look to them, specifically Foster and I am finally glad to see the offensive side of the ball look just as tough! Both sides I can see having a lunch pail mentality now, not just the defense. Both coaches on both sides of the ball look like they have some serious fire inside of them and want to be great. If we can't beat you with 5 stars we will beat you with walk ons!
Not always....
Yeah and see what happened, LOLUVA is ranked higher than VT...
I wouldn't want to fight him.......
In the immortal words of Rancid, my blurry vision sees nothing wrong.
This guy looks like an OL coach. Couldn't have picked a better one myself
BlueCollarHokie he was on there he was waitin' for meeee
One of my favorites
This guy's look just screams, "I'll crush your defense like I crush my beer cans...with my fists and forehead."
I love it.
It may be the alcohol but I lost my shit reading this section of the thread while listening to the interview. Well done fellow TKPers
He should fit right in!
At least we know he is all business
In the front
How has nobody made this their avatar yet?
I grew up in the late '80's and early '90's and that dude looks like every offensive lineman that I remember. Works for me.
Like I said on another thread, we need to get Mama Teller on board with a rebirth of Wyatt's mullet. Then we need to get everyone on the OL with mullets and 70s staches and coin them #ViceSquad.
This has me so excited for the battle of bristle its. not. even. funny.
Does this look like a man that you would want to double cross his OL?
Didn't think so.
Even his mustache is grimacing
Did they snap this photo of him after telling him that someone drank the last Busch Light
Seriously, you don't want your mustache anywhere near your nose.
true, it tickles your nose and makes people thinking you are picking boogs.
More importantly....
Down goes Loeffler!!!!
via GIPHY
Just so everyone knows what these stats mean...
75th (38.5%) in Opportunity Rate, 35th (72.0%) in Power Success Rate, and 79th (19.9%) in Stuff Rate
Opportunity Rate - This is the percentage of carries in which the offensive line "does its job" and produces at least five yards of rushing for the runner. (Generally speaking, the first five yards are considered the line's responsibility, the next five are split evenly between the runner and the line, and anything over 10 yards is all on the runner.)
Power Success Rate - this is the percentage of runs on third or fourth down, two yards or less to go, that achieved a first down or touchdown. Also includes runs on first-and-goal or second-and-goal from the two-yard line or closer.
Stuff Rate - This is the percentage of runs where the runner is tackled at or behind the line of scrimmage. Since being stuffed is bad, offenses are ranked from stuffed least often (No. 1) to most often (No. 125); for defenses, the opposite is true.
That...uh...doesn't look great?
I guess we have to take all of their stats with a grain of salt considering their overall lack of talent but...
So with McMillan and some of the other RB's we have had in the past, we should be fine.
I was under the impression that the 'stuff rate' showed how successful the line was at...you know...doing stuff.
Thanks for the clarification.
Do we have our stats like this from the last few seasons? I'd be interested to compare.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaaol
The advanced oline metrics don't go far back
This year their line is ranked 94th and ours 46th
VT 2014 rankings:
Opportunity - 93
Power - 108
Stuff - 90
Adj. Sack Rate - 102
VT 2015:
Opportunity - 74
Power - 29
Stuff - 61
Adj. Sack - 114
Memphis 2014 rankings:
Opportunity - 74
Power - 75
Stuff - 94
Adj. Sack - 16
Memphis 2015 rankings:
Opportunity - 75
Power - 35
Stuff - 79
Adj. Sack - 24
Note: only the Adj. sack rate is adjusted for opponent.
their Adjust line rate is 46th. I dont think their Oline is ranked 46th.
They are ranked way better than we are in almost every other category.Misread, but still didnt merit that drastic of an overall line difference.but i will take a loss if i am incorrect in reading this. And i am.
Yes, that's adjusted line rate. Which, is complicated, but can be simplified as follows (I think):
Take all RB rushes in a game, for each, the O-line will get a certain percentage of the yards attributed to them:
Loss of yards: 120%
0-4 yards: 100%
5-10 yards: 50%
11+ yards: 0%
Total up all the yardage, then Adjust based on opponent defense.
So, let's say a RB runs for 5 plays as follows: +2, +6, -3, +25, +5 = 35 yards for RB
O-line gets:
+2: 2*(100%) = 2
+6: 4*(100%)+2*(50%) = 5
-3: -3*(120%) = -3.6
+25: 4*(100%)+6*(50%)+15*(0%) = 7
+5: 4*(100%)+1*(50%) = 4.5
Thus, the O-line was responsible for 14.9 yards, which would be adjusted based on opponent.
So ALR(ALY) is not a function of all the other categories.
The Sack rates were ridiculously better for Memphis, something I would enjoy seeing less of at tech.
I think this statistic is useful, but has major caveats. For example, compare Coleman with McMillan. How many times have we seen Coleman go down on first contact in the backfield, compared to McMillan always able to turn a negative into a positive.
That push for 8 yards against UVA should be 1 million points.
Power Success and Stuff rate make sense and seem like they might provide some insight. Opportunity rate is just dumb though. There's a million reasons why any run might go for a certain distance and you can't know unless you analyze the tape.
From MoD over on the "Fuente's Staff" thread...
http://www.thekeyplay.com/comment/369525#comment-369525
There can be no better name for this vessel. I only hope it was properly christened with a bottle of Coors Light
I prefer to use beer for something like that. /s
I don't think a /s is necessary here.
This is fantastic
It's beautiful, man.
Let the political incorrectness begin.
All credit to @ministerofd. He might be a Tennessee alum, but he can photoshop some funny stuff.
Does Fuente take over RB coaching duties? It looks like the only position coach not currently taken
Rumors are that Burden will remain. That would mean Wiggins to RBs, Burden to WR and still 1 coach spot open. I'm still holding out some hope that it will be either moving Shibest to ST and having Stiney on TE and Recruiting, or keep Shibest on TE and have Shane on ST and Recruiting. I think Stiney would benefit us more, but who knows.
Insiders are saying that it will almost certainly be Galen Scott as LB and AHC
I know it's Fuente'so team and his decision, but I definitely feel like Bud should be the AHC instead of Scott
From what I understand normally you don't have a coordinator be AHC
Correct, you want the Coordinators focusing on their duties. You don't see a coordinator as AHC unless its a co-coord situation.
It doesn't look like Burden is staying now. 247 reported that Wiggins visited Sam Denmark and Hokiesports now lists Wiggins as the WR coach. I trust Coach Fuente's decisions, but from what it looks like Coach Wiggins had a solid record coaching RBs, seems like we could keep Burden to coach WRs if Wiggins would coach RBs.
Also, Shibest is listed as the TE coach too. Maybe Stinespring is the recruiting coordinator?
At this point I'd be surprised if any of the coaches on the offensive side are retained.
Could be Wiggins if Burden stays.
Plus, there's still two assistant vacancies that haven't been revealed.
Does this mean Blacksburg is becoming
?
Lol. When I heard this guy's name, I immediately thought of Lance Vance from Vice City.
Wiles retained:
http://www.roanoke.com/sports/columns_and_blogs/blogs/andy_bitter_virgin...
My favorite thing from those videos is their response to "Why Memphis?" Their first two words were "Coach Fuente". Our current assistants' love for Coach Beamer is what kept them here for so long and contributed to a lot of our 10 win seasons and conference championships. I sense a lot of similar love for Coach Fuente from his assistants and I feel confident that they'll be doing everything they can to make their boss and Virginia Tech a success!
I read somewhere that Cornelsen was a Broyles Award finalist this year...to go from Loeffler to him is quite encouraging.
And time cop was acc coach of the year in 2011.
Don't get me wrong, I'm excited and think he'll be an upgrade, but time will tell
I see what you did there....
Should have ended it as "... but his time out on the field will tell" though. Oh well better thinking next go around
that would have been too much subtles
Doesn't look like it...
http://broylesaward.com/featured/2015-broyles-award-finalists-announced/
Doesn't mean he won't be better than Loeffler though.
Cornelsen was a nominee - but didn't make the finalists.
2014 Shibest was a nominee also - but didn't make the finalists
I liked what he had to say a lot and what he looked for in QBs, the weight they place on character
The goatee game from our coordinators looks to be strong.
That was one of Bud Foster's requirements for sticking around on the new staff... "need to get some more goatees around this place"
Huh, so when Bud looked pissed at various points last year, he wasn't upset that the offense wasn't scoring enough to win despite his awesome defense, he was just salty that Grimes had left and with him any semblance of a respectable goatee on the offensive staff.
As a bearded/goatee man, I whole heartedly tell everyone this is absolute truth. I was there...monthly meeting.
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2015/12/4/9848492/the-curious-in...
Coach Fuente likes his Staff, then I like his staff. And If they Score all the points on Offense that they do. Whose to Bitch , Not Me.
I wish they'd keep Searels, but I support Fuente in his choices.
Yea, I'm a Searels fan. I think he was doing a respectable job digging us out of the O-line situation we put ourselves in. But, I trust Fuente in what he is doing. He's kept what I deem to be the most important members of our current regime (Foster and Torrian).
I'm fine with it. Brewer had the snot beat out of him both last year and this year. He knew he was going to get blasted at UVA. A QB playing behind a good line doesn't tell his OC that he knows he's going to get beat up and still find a way to win.
When one of your regular season games ended 0:0 in regular time , it is a sign that offensive help is needed. Fuente is trying to assemble a staff that can create a complete team. Wherever his evaluation leads the Hokies that's where I am going.
When your O-line coach could have a better mullet than Wyatt Teller you know you made a great hire!
i was camping with Vance Vice once. He opened a can of green beans with his mustache. That was a good meal.
VANCE VICE! What 70's detective show were his parents watching?
They all look drunk...they will fit right in!
TC was a pimp! That helicopter...
Well it was an 80s show, but your point is still valid. I was a HUGE Magnum PI fan!
When Selleck would come on I had to tie my wife in the chair to keep her from sliding out of it onto the floor.
That's funny so did my dad
Let's just say I sported a Detroit Tigers hat, and I was not a fan of the team. I'd like to think it was a poor choice for an idol, but truth be told, it may have been my first man crush.
Now that Memphis has a HC it will be interesting to see what Dickey does. Odom may go after him, one thing is for certain if he comes here Burden is definitely gone
Vance Vice sounds like an '80s porno name.
Has the look too...so I'm told.
With this new OL coach, let's just hope our OL develops a bad habit of overindulging in pancakes.
Vance Vice is the best non-porn name porn name ever.
I am a little biased towards George George
I don't know, Billy Berlin tops my list.
So apparently from sources this is how the hire happend:
Fuente walked in, put an envelope on the table, slid it over Whits direction. Whit opened it only to see Vance Vice's picture with a sticky note that said "Im bringin Vance".
Whit offered him on the spot. No further questions needed.
I've heard from #sauces that he just wrote "HIM" on the sticky note