Hokies, Zohn Burden Target RBs as 2017 Recruiting Efforts Ramp Up

Tech's new RBs coach is helping the Hokies go after the next generation of runners.

Zehn Burden is jumping in to his new role as running backs coach on the recruiting trail. [Mark Umansky]

Zohn Burden may be new to coaching running backs, but so far, he hasn't been shy about leading the charge on the recruiting trail when it comes to targeting Tech's top junior RB prospects.

The Hokies have been handing out a slew of offers to those in the class of 2017 in recent weeks, putting a special focus on running backs, despite their jam-packed depth chart at the position.

Burden has been the key architect of those efforts, extending offers to backs around the country as Justin Fuente assembles his list of top prospects for the next recruiting cycle.

2017 RB A.J. Dillon of Groton, Mass.'s Lawrence Academy said he'd heard from the Hokies briefly before Burden first contacted him, but it was when the new RBs coach reached out to him on Twitter on Jan. 13 that Tech pulled the trigger and offered him.

"I called him and we were just chatting and he said he thought I was a great running back that could play at Virginia Tech, and I was honored, and I'm very thankful for the offer," Dillon said. "Virginia Tech is definitely a place I could see me playing."

Dillon, who's rated a 4-star prospect by the 247Sports Composite ranking, added that the offer sent him scrambling to learn all he could about the program.

"I'm pretty sure I did more research than humanly possible once we got off the phone, looking at their stats and watching film and how they use their running backs," Dillon said.

But Dillon notes that he didn't need to watch film to know about Tech's national reputation.

"They have a great program, they're always a national contender," Dillon said. "They're just one of those programs that's set up to succeed all the time. Football-wise, I wouldn't be worried about picking Virginia Tech, I know they have a tradition of being good and they're going to be good. From talking to the coaches, I feel like the coaches are the type of people I want to play for."

Dillon says he's never been to Virginia Tech, missing the chance to stop by campus due to time constraints on his previous "East Coast tour" last summer of schools like North Carolina and Wake Forest, but now he "definitely will" try his best to visit and learn more about the school.

In the meantime, he'll continue to evaluate the other programs interested in him based on a wide array of factors. Dillon says he thinks he can play in any type of offense, so he's open to whatever kind of scheme Fuente may choose to use at Tech.

"In reality, I'm not the fastest back, I'm not a scat back per se, so I understand some programs don't really like bigger backs or super, super quick backs, but I feel like I'm right there in the middle," Dillon said. "So first, I look for how they utilize their running backs."

At 6'1" and 230 pounds, Dillon does indeed have size to go with his speed. But he adds that he'll be weighing factors beyond just what he sees on the field.

"My mom's the dean of students at my own high school, so academics are very important," Dillon said. "I still don't know what I want to major in, so (when Tech offered) I looked up every major that they had, thought about what they had and what I'd do and all that kind of stuff."

Dillon is in the midst of studying plenty of schools beyond just Tech, however. He says he hears plenty from Penn State, Notre Dame and Boston College these days, and he notes that he has a particularly close connection with the Fighting Irish — his grandfather, Thom Gatewood, was just inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame after his career with Notre Dame.

Accordingly, he's gotten the chance to visit South Bend a few times now, along with State College, and he says he hears plenty from both sets of coaching staffs these days.

But Dillon's suitors won't have much longer to make an impression on him, as he hopes to commit sometime around his birthday in May.

2017 RB Kyshaun Bryan of Fort Lauderdale, Fla.'s American Heritage HS says he was initially targeting a similarly early commitment, but he's since changed his mind for one key reason.

"I was thinking about (committing) early, but since Virginia Tech offered me, I'm probably going to push it back to around my senior year, before the season or after," Bryan said.

Bryan says he's been hearing from Burden and the Hokies "since the season started" but it was only on Dec. 14 that they officially offered him.

"It was exciting because I was waiting on it, and they were talking to me a lot," Bryan said. "I'm interested in ACC football a lot, so that was exciting news."

The 5'10", 190-pound back, who's rated a 4-star prospect by the 247Sports Composite ranking, says he's also never seen Blacksburg.

With interest from teams as varied as Clemson, Florida State, Florida, Miami, West Virginia and Ohio State, he has plenty of schools to get to, and he says he's already gotten to all the Florida campuses.

Now he's hoping to swing by Clemson and Ohio State sometime in February and March, with a trip to Blacksburg to meet Burden in person on the books as well.

"He seems like a cool guy, I can't wait to go up there and see the school and everything," Bryan said.

2017 RB Adarius Lemons of Clearwater (Fla.) HS says he won't have to go Blacksburg to see Burden. The RB coach will be visiting Lemons at his school today, after offering him on Jan. 7.

"When they offered me, it was great, because that's a school that I know Michael Vick went to when he was playing ball," Lemons said. "That's another top school that a big name came from, so I was really excited I got an offer from them."

Lemons, another 4-star prospect according to the 247Sports Composite rating system, doesn't lack for interest from other, similarly prestigious schools.

"The programs I'm looking at the most right now are Ohio State, though it's slacking off a little bit, really them and Kentucky," Lemons said.

Lemons notes that he hasn't scheduled visits to any of the programs he's interested in yet, but he suspects that he'll discuss it in more detail with Burden when they meet face-to-face.

"We haven't talked about that much yet, I think he just wants to meet me first," Lemons said.

One player in Lemons' neck of the woods also earned a Tech offer, but from a recruiter that's a bit more familiar with the Florida area — Torrian Gray extended a scholarship to 2017 OLB Ventrell Miller of Lakeland, Fla.'s Kathleen HS.

Gray offered Miller on Jan. 12, but had his eyes on him for weeks, largely because he's a Lakeland alum himself.

"He said he saw my film and after he saw it, he was that impressed with it," Miller said. "And he told me he liked it and he was gonna go back and see if he could get an offer for me."

That's just what he did last week, arranging a phone call with Fuente and Bud Foster to give him the good news.

"They said I can get to the ball fast, and find the ball really quickly," Miller said. "They just like my vision for the ball, and I can hit hard."

Miller said Tech was the third school to reward him with an offer for those qualities, with Florida Atlanta and UMass first on board. Since the Hokies pulled the trigger, he said Iowa State has as well, with Iowa and Tennessee starting to show interest too.

But even with all that interest, he says he'll still make time for a trip to Tech based on what he's heard from the new staff so far.

"They're building up," Miller said. "They were saying they've got one of the best defenses, so they're saying if they get offense to come with it, that's a championship team, and that really impressed me."

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The staff is spreading the Tech footprint, taking advantage more of what many of us were befuddled about in the past. It appears that they have no fear, no shame, and understand that if we want to be a national brand, we must act nationally. Good article that offers a glimpse of how things will be done.

"The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. " Rocky B.

What were you "befuddled" about before? I'm not sure I follow.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Reading comments on websites doesn't tell the whole story of course. Were we or were we not Virginia centric? If we failed in our home state, we failed, in my opinion was wrong thinking. When I was at Tech we had lots of guys from Jersey, Tennessee, Georgia and other places. To them, even way back then, Tech was an attractive destination. So while we did have somewhat of a presence recruiting in Florida, North Carolina, Maryland and Pennsylvania, it did not seem that we took advantage of the reputation we had built from the 90's and early 2000's to go hard in other areas. "Hey, Billy Bob, you folks in Arkansas play good football. We think you're a good fit with Virginia Tech. We'll be playing this Thursday night. Why not watch the game and we'll come out and visit you." Yes, there are constraints, money and time to get to see people from afar, but this staff which comes from somewhat further afar has opened up the playing field. Ostensibly, I don't follow recruiting like many, but that was my perception. Now, and maybe it's just the publicity that follows a new coaching staff, I think I see that any player anywhere is fair game.

"The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. " Rocky B.

So are you saying that you are befuddled about his use of "befuddled"?

You must have scored a perfect 50 on the wonderlic. LOL.

"The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. " Rocky B.

I do love seeing we are recruiting from a larger potion of the country. We need to be sure we don't just go "far" and miss talent on the way.

Building a strong O-line is still need to open holes for these stallions to run through!

It appears this coaching staff is already proving to be a strong group; now lets see what the player do for them come spring/summer/the season. High hopes....

I don't mind us popping around the country looking for recruits and spreading our brand as long as we take care of the recruits in our back yard. If we can just land the top recruits from Va., we will have a solid program. Great article Alex.

Hypothetical: Would you rather have two 4 star RBs from Florida or the number 1 RB recruit from the state of Virginia. And why?

Hmm thats a good question, I like where you are going with it,

I think the correct answer is C? Walk-on FB from Mechancsville, VA?

I would rather have the #1 overall prospect from the state of VA. Recruiting in your home territory is very important for schools like Virginia Tech. There is a reason Fuente reiterates he is taking over the 757.

Can I have the two 4 stars too? ;)

What Fuente says to make some happy and what Fuente actually does might be two different things.

I suspect he targets VA hard on the handful of top 15 players that fit the program and its needs, but will work harder on developing a broader regional focus from NJ to GA and select areas of FL and perhaps TX, etc where the offensive staff has some connections.

I think the evolution from the previous regime will be an expansion of the focus on a regional recruiting approach where quality kids from MD, NC, SC, NJ, etc are recruited as hard as VA kids. I think with the additions of Loeffler, Shane, and Grimes, Frank was convinced of need to go beyond the 300 mile umbrella where a nearby kid was considered less risky. But he didn't jump in with all 4 limbs right away and didn't recognize the additional resources it would require to fully commit to a regional recruiting strategy.

Do you think Tech has those resources now? Staff and money to do that on a large scale? I'm not so sure.

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While I get what you mean by the question, I think this is where we lost out before. You may rather get #1 in VA to keep the in state pipeline etc, but you cannot control who comes. I think we focused so much on VA when we missed we had to take number 2, 3 or 4 in VA rather than suitable athlete. I like the idea that we offer 6-7 backs we believe will work best in our system and have the right character, regardless of stars or location, and tell them we are committed to the first 2 (or however many) that commit to us. I think going after first choice, then second, than third, etc has left us with leftovers, and that we would better off letting everyone know we are the type of program that has too much interest to hold a guaranteed spot while you shop around.

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I may be too idealistic as I work in Higher Education, but we may not have a snowball's chance in hell with some guys because they want to study something we simply don't offer as a major. I know most 4+ star recruits are worried about football and not studies to the same extent, Momma can play a factor in some of these decisions.

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>Momma can play a factor in some of these decisions.

See: Kendall Fuller

Keep calm, Gobble on

Also relevant, Kyle and Corey.

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.... And Vinny

Onward and upward

Well that was the first one so there wasn't really a connection till after Vinny. I did think of adding him though.

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See: Kevin Tolliver

/s

That may be the case, but I think one of things we have missed in the past vs some other top schools is a big enough offer list. 4* may not want to consider us because his mom likes the color purple, but when other players see we have offered more top players at their position than we will take it can change their perception of us.

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I want the one we think is the best. Va does not produce enough talent to stock even half of our roster with the quality we need to compete for championships. If the number one player at a position isn't as good as someone else we can sign, then so be it.

We will always have significant representation from the state on the roster but it needs to be at a higher level than what we've recruited in some time, and we should never deliberately take a less talented player just because they are in-state. That sends the message that we aren't trying to do our best to win. No thank you.

I don't mind us popping around the country looking for recruits and spreading our brand as long as we take care of the recruits in our back yard. If we can just land the top recruits from Va., we will have a solid program.

To me it doesn't seem like top VA recruits are taking care of VT, so I think going out of state and getting talent wherever we can is the right plan. IMDO, VA recruits take a VT offer for granted. A VA recruit should feel a sense of urgency to get on board or be left out - not that they can wait to commit to VT and see if a better offer comes along in the meantime. Fielding a competent offense that can put us in position to win championships will also help.

I think this whole thread raises valid points and we have seen things go this way in the past too. An interesting note from the WDBJ interview with Fuente was him saying that we also have to take care of high school coaches, whether it's through coaching clinics, whatever, but service them in ways that will help their own careers. That's something that doesn't get discussed too much in relation to recruiting, but is an excellent way to gain appreciation from people that remember these types of efforts.

I dont know if were looking for a certain 'type' of runner, but AJ Dillon, and Adarius Lemons are very mean, downhill runners. They remind me a little bit of Marshawn, especially AJ. I like it.

I like us targeting these 4 star rated backs, but more importantly, I like how Burden is looking at a much bigger geographic footprint to find the guys that are right for the position at Virginia Tech under Fuente.

Go get 'em Zohn (pronounced "k EH - v ih n")!

We put the K in Kwality

One 4 star RB please!

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A little off topic, but I'm getting really sad about seeing offers being made to players that won't even play until I've already graduated. Maybe I'll have to take a 5th year so I can stay in North and see us really take over the ACC.

"Tyrod did it, Mikey!"

As someone who took a fifth year, yes absolutely do it. An extra season of football is worth it. If you're up for it try grad school to extend it even more. And since you've gone that far, just get the PhD. If you're done with school, date someone who still goes there once you have to leave Blacksburg. Then you have to visit for football weekends!

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

Do what I did, switch majors during your 4th year and extend your undergrad to 7 years total. Best decision I ever made.

Lots of people go to college for 7 years.
Yes, they are called doctors and lawyers.

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
“I served in the United States Navy"

Well with 192 credit hours, you would probably think I would at least have my master's. if not my PhD.

Unfortunately, I have 56 ME credit hours that don't apply to my ISE degree. Therefore, I've become an Industrial Engineer with a strong understanding of Mechanical Engineering principles.

Definitely useful for my job as a Project Manager of a SaaS company. s/

My fifth year was the '99 season so, yeah, do it man! Sure as hell worked out for me...

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Had a dear friend who was in Forestry. He would go to school for a quarter, or two, then out to Alaska to actually be a lumberjack. Took him ten years to graduate, but he built a solid career and enjoyed his college life. Took me seven years, but Uncle Sam had a couple of them. Worked out well for me, also. Met my wife and virtually all of my best friends when I got back to matriculating. Study/enjoy college for as long as you can. The rest of your life will make you appreciate it.

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hokiedrew,

"We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behavior" Stephen M.R. Covey

“When life knocks you down plan to land on your back, because if you can look up, you can get up, if you fall flat on your face it can kill your spirit” David Wilson

I had this same thought myself when I was graduating back in 2007 and was definitely feeling the anxiety over it. But it will be ok. The players come and go but you still root for the team the same. You can get season tix and head back to a lot of games. I go to 4 or 5 a year and at the age of 30 you can still catch me at Tots every Friday and Saturday of game weekends.

That being said do a 5th year. Then go be a ski bum for 4 years in a western ski town and travel in the spring and fall before you finally have to get a real job. Or don't get a real job. That's good too.

VT isn't going anywhere.

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

His decision was made after a phone call with longtime Virginia Tech assistant coach Bud Foster. All Foster told him was, "We win. They don't."

Please please please land Lemons!!! I just want to say when Florida gives you Lemons, you kick the ACC's ass! or something like that

Plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

I've noticed a lot of offers for key positions are 4*. If our boys only target the top, then we should land at least a few if them. Definitely feel like the recruiting tactics have changed.

I also like the responses to Burden. If he proves to coach them well, with the recruiting response so far, dude could be a monster.

My only worry about all the four and five stars is making sure they fit the system and can play well with the team. Remember when Larry Coker (Miami) recruited all the 4 & 5 stars, but the team fell apart?

Lots of 4* offers means 2 things to me:

1) VT MIGHT get better recruiting classes

2) Given a finite number of scholarships available to every school, VT will definitely get rejected more which will lead to even more wrist slitting, hand wringing, 2nd guessing, rationalizing, and general manic depression for the more rabid followers of the wooing and recruiting of 16 & 17 year males.

I can handle losing a top OOS prospect better than I can an in-state prospect who "grew up loving VT"

I can handle either.

Can't remember which one, but one of the florida boys was adamant about not playing in a spread offense seems like a tough sell

Well, when the sellin' gets tough...

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I'll take Laborn in 2017 and Slade in 2018. Burden is from VA Beach like Laborn. Tell him he's the only RB being courted in this class, make him feel special, get this 757 movement back going. I like VT offering more 4* recruits but when you have game breakers in your backyard, have to build a fence and keep them home. Laborn and Slade are best RB prospects in VA since David Wilson and Ryan Williams, we all know how those turned out. Damone Drew of Brooke Point HS Stafford has impressive film for 2017 as well.

There's no glory in practice and lifting but without practice and lifting, there will be no glory!

Given our recent VA recruiting troubles, what's wrong with broadening our approach? If we can stock the cupboard adequately from VA, well, all good. But upping our national recruiting profile seems like a good approach, maybe mitigating the effects of a drought year closer to home. I don't feel like this is a harbinger of abandoning the state, just a natural reaction to the state abandoning us. We win, keep working the high school coaches and targeting our local recruits and perhaps we regain our status, but we cannot just sit back and wait for recent perceptions to change.

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I don't mind broadening the scope. The change in philosophy and energy is visible already and get me all warm thinking about the future. I'm just saying for this particular year, I think Laborn is the best RB in America in 2017. The fact the he's from the same town as our RB coach makes me feel like he should be our guy and we should make that known. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have more players from FL and GA and southeast, that's where the best usually come from.

There's no glory in practice and lifting but without practice and lifting, there will be no glory!

Winning Virginia is important as it is a talent rich state, but I don't think anyone can really argue you don't have to have a broader stroke in recruiting these days to be consistently competitive. The teams that could get away with it, Texas/Fla/Cali schools, the really good ones still have larger regional/national recruiting footprints.

There's no way we recruit only 1 RB in 2017. We need 2-3 in that class.

Wiley, Brown, Russell, Drakeford, Gray, Banks, Prioleau, Charleton, Midget, Bird, McCadam, Pile, Hall, Green, Fuller, Williams, Hamilton, Rouse, Flowers, Harris, Chancellor, Carmichael, Hosley, Fuller, Exum, Jarrett

Tell him he's the only RB being courted in this class...

Oops.

"Yes I am going to have favorites. My favorites are high production and low maintenance players, coaches, and staff." - JMFF

Hope we get Laborn.
I don't think the others happen for various reasons. imo

I heard the former #1RB out of Richmond (Green?) is transferring from Michigan with his degree in hand. He might have some weight issues IIRC, but would there be any interest in bringing him in to compete for 1 year?

I don't have to take this abuse from you, I've got hundreds of people dying to abuse me.

He isn't going to transfer to a school to ride the bench

Win consistently and hold a high ranking and you will have your choice of players, in-state and out of state.

Doesn't work that way, certainly didn't during Beamer's tenure

It does work that way, when there aren't other factors. Bud said teams have been using Beamer's age against us for a very long time, I don't remember the exact number but it was a longer time than I would have guessed. Additionally, who would want to come play for that dumpster fire inconsistent offense we had? Anyone who watched us could tell we were only as good as the players who could mask the weaknesses like Tyrod, RMFW, and Wilson.

If we start winning again and our offense is putting up numbers and exciting to watch, recruiting will get better.

There are always additional factors aside from winning, Miami over the past 10+ years is a great example. They have consistently put out mediocre teams but good-great recruiting classes because of their close proximity to talent and being an extremely desirable location to go to school not to mention their terrible stadium/facilities situation. Historically Virginia Tech has landed a third to half of the 4* and 5* talent in state with only two years since 2003 where we have landed over half, while I'm sure Beamer's age has been a hindrance in recent years I doubt it was much of one in 2004. Winning games will undoubtedly help with recruiting, but the notion that we will have our pick of players doesn't hold up.

Oh, I'm certainly not saying we will be picking and choosing who we want. I'm saying recruiting will almost certainly get better if we start winning again with an exciting offense. Hopefully some of our near misses on big recruits will start to shift our way.

It is amazing to me how recruits still recognize Virginia Tech as a great place to play because of Michael Vick. They probably weren't even born during his time here. Transcendent athletes truly do wield much power.

Without trying to sounding like these young men are a commodity, we just need horses in the stable at this point. I would love to win the state of Va. once again, but in the meantime lets just get young men here who want to be here regardless of where they come from.

I think it is great that we are working to expand the VT brand and get kids in from other states.

Is coronavirus over yet?

I agree. Players who live in Va. have been hearing and seeing all the negative press about VT's slide into mediocrity, our boring overly conservative offense, etc., for several years now. Kids who don't live here aren't treated to all of that first hand, so their image of VT may not be tainted by that negativity. As long as we're not ignoring our back yard, what is the downside of casting a wider net?

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I just watched Laborn's highlights. Wow. We are in his top five. The Zohn is recruiting him. We have a chance. Check out his vid:

Laborn Highlights

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"despite their jam-packed depth chart at the position" Saying things like that implies that we don't need to be heavily recruiting RB's in 2017.

RB is a big time position of need in 2017. The only guaranteed contributor expected back for 2017 is McMillian - and he may go pro if he has a great 2016. McClease has positive buzz but hasn't played a snap. The two other potential contributors are each rehabbing their 2nd ACL injury...

Wiley, Brown, Russell, Drakeford, Gray, Banks, Prioleau, Charleton, Midget, Bird, McCadam, Pile, Hall, Green, Fuller, Williams, Hamilton, Rouse, Flowers, Harris, Chancellor, Carmichael, Hosley, Fuller, Exum, Jarrett

Also our friends at TSL hint that there may be academic attrition at the RB position and the possibility of Edmonds not returning

In Fuente we trust

I have heard this about Trey from a reliable source on Saturday. I declined to post about it because of the nature of the source and because it isn't a done deal. I hope the people in his ear don't win out, but this has been going on for a while.

Where is he thinking about transferring?

Wiley, Brown, Russell, Drakeford, Gray, Banks, Prioleau, Charleton, Midget, Bird, McCadam, Pile, Hall, Green, Fuller, Williams, Hamilton, Rouse, Flowers, Harris, Chancellor, Carmichael, Hosley, Fuller, Exum, Jarrett

I think it is done. Could be wrong but that's what I heard was going down. Haven't heard where he is going....

It's done. He's going to his pop's alma mater, the Terps. Visited over the weekend and watched the basketball game vs OSU

I hope he hangs 200 yds and 6 tds on Michigan. It was a catch, karma will be due all my life.

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