
The conclusion of Virginia Tech's surprisingly successful 2015-16 basketball campaign with a Seth Allen layup at the buzzer, and three-point NIT loss at altitude to BYU doesn't seem too long ago.
It was an anticlimactic way to end head coach Buzz Williams' second year at the helm of the Hokies, but the encouraging part is the returning roster. Williams' rotation consistently used 8.5 players (the half meaning the leftover minutes thrown to Shane Henry, Satchel Pierce, or Johnny Hamilton), and everyone outside of Henry was set to return.
However that was before everyone's favorite time in college basketball, transfer season! And with it came the departures of Pierce and Jalen Hudson, both leaving for larger roles on other Power Five teams (Penn State and Florida, respectively). Those losses, particularly Hudson's, felt like a problem. While he was inconsistent through his first two years, Tyrone single handedly won a few games. How much would his exit hurt?
It was a question I threw around for a couple weeks. In fact, another Hokie buddy of mine asked about Hudson's transfer a few days after it was initially announced. 'What's up with him leaving?' he asked, 'I thought he'd be big time next year.'
I instinctively answered with a word Tech basketball fans haven't heard in a half decade. Depth. The team's too deep for him to get consistent minutes, I said. And even as the statement came from my mouth, it was hard to believe. Is this team, one which is still looking for their first NCAA Tournament berth since 2007, really stacked with talent?
To be honest, it's still weird to see the words in writing.
But then, two reports trickled out to substantiate the thought.
Virginia Tech's Ahmed Hill (patella) has been fully cleared for all basketball related activities, Buzz Williams told @CBSSports.— Jon Rothstein (@JonRothstein) June 6, 2016
Virginia Tech's Ty Outlaw (illness) has been fully cleared for all basketball activities, Buzz Williams told @CBSSports. DNP last year.— Jon Rothstein (@JonRothstein) June 6, 2016
Two wings, both of whom missed an entire season, are fully cleared.
It's hard to underestimate what this means for a roster already built to a Buzz Williams T. Let's take a look at the team, broken down into the three key positions: point guards, wings, and bigs.
Point Guards:
Seth Allen
Tyrie Jackson
Justin Robinson
Devin Wilson (Unless Wilson doesn't return from his stint with the football team.)
Wings:
Justin Bibbs
Chris Clarke
Ahmed Hill
Ty Outlaw
Bigs:
Kerry Blackshear
Johnny Hamilton
Zach LeDay
Khadim Sy
Four deep at each? The look of a real college hoops squad could bring a tear to your eye. Even if you assume Sy and Jackson won't be ready, and Hamilton is still a disaster anywhere close to the ball, they can still supplement the other eight rotation players.
While it may be unfair to expect much out of either Hill or Outlaw, especially since the latter has been out of basketball for an entire year, their addition still strengthens the overall talent pool. And since there are still five months until they hit Cassell Coliseum again, fans can only dream of what these guys could look like.
In fact a fun game is to take the roster from above, and pick your favorite five to put on the court together. There are so many to chose from, you have a ton of intriguing options. Here are a few of mine.
The Traditional
Justin Robinson
Seth Allen
Justin Bibbs
Zach LeDay
Kerry Blackshear/Johnny Hamilton/Khadim Sy
Standard in many ways, including a "real" power forward in LeDay next to another big man, and two shooters flanking the post. This combination isn't exactly revolutionary, but it tosses three veterans with an explosive ball handler and one of three centers who protect the rim and could track down offensive boards.
While this limits what the coaching staff could do creatively in terms of producing mismatches, it's one of the better defensive groupings. With LeDay already at 6'7" he can handle an opposing big, but if Buzz went any smaller with a wing like Clarke or Hill, they may struggle. Is it the most dangerous five? No. But it's definitely the safest. This way Williams won't have to resort to zone (something he doesn't love despite last year's success), and still maintain an appropriate balance inside and outside.
The Run Club
Seth Allen/Justin Robinson
Justin Bibbs
Ahmed Hill
Chris Clarke
Zach LeDay
One of the biggest changes this roster's undergone over the last two years has been the kind of athlete on the bench. Gone are the plodding big men (Pierce, Trevor Thompson, Joey van Zegeren, Cadarian Raines), and most of the one dimensional defensive question marks (Adam Smith, Marshall Wood, Malik Mueller). Instead they've all been replaced with versatility and explosiveness.
The Hokies flashed serious firepower in two ways this season. The first was through getting into the middle of the defense with their ball handlers, causing chaos, open threes, and countless trips to the free throw line.
But the second was even more exciting. Using length and quickness to their advantage, players like Robinson, Allen, Clarke, and LeDay got in passing lanes and looked to run at every chance. There were times, like Tech's game in Blacksburg against Florida State, where this completely flipped momentum. When guys are flying around and getting out on the break, it can demoralize their opponents.
Hill improved drastically as a freshman, but one of the skills he had on day one was filling the wing in transition. Quite similarly, Clarke's best talent in his debut year was a non-stop will to outrun the other team. Though many of their possessions ended in disaster, both can wow in the open floor.
But think about this scenario: LeDay comes up with a loose ball or defensive rebound near the basket, shoots a quick pass to Robinson and before he can blink, the point guard is flanked by a sprinting Hill and Clarke. Even if a defense keeps up with the attacking trio, can they also handle the trailing Bibbs, who hits on nearly half his three pointers?
Excuse me, I think I need to go walk something off.
The Small-Ball Nightmare
Justin Robinson/Devin Wilson/Seth Allen
Justin Bibbs
Ahmed HIll
Ty Outlaw
Chris Clarke
This is an even faster and more reckless version of the run club. They wouldn't be able to play man-to-man, but a quick five minute burst of frenetic matchup zone each half from these five could be deadly. It won't always work, especially against established centers, but this is the kind of Golden State Warriors-esq lineup revolutionizing the NBA right now.
Let's say Allen is running with the other four. Not only would they play quickly, but the wealth of wings could take anyone to the rim. And outside of Clarke (whose current form looks more unnatural than a Bill Gates' dab), the group's also full of shooters. Allen runs hot and cold, but Bibbs, Outlaw (44 percent from deep as a JUCO), and Hill (an astounding 41 percent in ACC play) can all equally space the floor.
Add in Bibbs' underrated skills as a passer, and the ball would whiz around to the open man. Whether it lands in the hands of one of the four gunners or Clarke squirming his way around the hoop, this collection of players could light up the scoreboard. It also doubles as an interesting option for the inevitable game where LeDay and Blackshear struggle with fouls on the same night.
The "I Dare You To Fight Me"
Justin Robinson
Ahmed Hill
Ty Outlaw**
Chris Clarke
Zach LeDay
I don't know how impactful these guys would be together, but maaaaaaaaan if there's ever a brawl I hope they're out there. Each one of these dudes knows how to scrap. Between LeDay's scowl, Hill's intensity, Clarke's limitless energy, and Robinson's actual willingness to throw a punch (/cuts eyes to a cowering Dinos Mitoglou), these guys are all tough. They may not beat you, but they sure as hell would puff their chest after knocking you to the ground.
**To be honest, no clue how scrappy Outlaw is. This is really just the Shane Henry Award for Juco Toughness (SHAJT? We'll workshop it.)
The Marcolini
Justin Robinson
Justin Bibbs
Ty Outlaw/Chris Clarke
Ahmed Hill
Zach LeDay/Kerry Blackshear
All this selfishly does is put my favorite people on the court at once, while also centering around my infatuation with Hill at power forward. All anyone around the program could talk about during the offseason were the leaps he made over the summer, and that he'd be the most improved player between years one and two.
And while a torn patella tendon has a tendency to disrupt plans, Hill stayed in shape and should be ready day one. If his game improves the way his shot did as a freshman (again, 41 percent in conference after hitting a less-than-stellar 32 percent in November and December), Tech'll have themselves a stud.
Outside of Hill, Blackshear's growth will also be one to watch. He's been awkward at times, and committed more than his share of rookie lapses, but his skills are enticing. As a near-seven footer who can dribble, step out and hit a jumper, and also use touch around the rim to finish, he's the kind of offensive center coaches who play small dream about.
In a very real world Blackshear could provide rim protection alongside four guards (Allen, Robinson, Bibbs, and Hill?), while not subtracting from the unit's skill and versatility. It's a huge advantage.
The best part of all these lists, however? They're just a handful of options Buzz Williams has at his disposal. The Hokies are deep, talented, and diverse in their skill sets. While it seems odd to see Tech sneak into a bunch of too-early-Top 25s, they have every reason to be there. And if the Virginia Tech's improvement over the last two seasons is any indication, don't be surprised if the Hokies stay in those polls after the season gets started.

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This team could be scary good without injuries. Looking so forward to basketball season!
Exciting times!
Only one comment. If we have a player that goes by "Pig"; he must be listed on the roster as "Pig".
Thanks for the article.
I wouldn't go so far as to say this is a deep team laden with huge talent. I'd say it's got a number of solid, yet similarly skilled, players at 2 positions - and several players can play both of those positions.
And yes, there is more front court talent than in past years, but it's still not deep enough or big enough that foul trouble on the inside won't be a significant concern more than a few times next season.
There is certainly more talent on the team than there was 3-5 yrs ago, but that is a pretty low bar. This team is still going to need to rely on outworking opponents and playing to its strengths (and away from its limitations) rather than overwhelming them with talent to win games against above average competition.
Also...don't you mean to say it's hard to overestimate the impact of Hill and Outlaw being cleared?
Well there are 12 scholarship players, four bigs, four wings and four point guards. That's pretty much the definition of depth. All of those "solid, yet similarly skilled" players play the 2, 3, 4, and at times 5. Having all of those athletic wings cause matchup nightmares.
As far as size goes it could be a problem against certain teams, but basketball as a whole is getting smaller. Gone are many lineups with seven footers, or two big/clunky shot blocker/rebounder types. It's headed to a place where you need a ton of versatile wings, which is exactly what they have.
That describes literally every college basketball team that isn't UNC, Duke, Kentucky, or Kansas. Just because Buzz doesn't have 14 McDonalds All-Americans, we can't say they're not talented? Yes they'll outwork people, but that doesn't say anything about their talent, just that they adopted the identity of their coach.
Backing up Brian's small ball point, Villanova's tallest player was Daniel Ochefu at 6-11. The next tallest player was listed at 6-8.5, so they won the national championship with only one player over 6-9. Buzz's offense is a 1 in 4 out so he would play a guard heavy lineup. Basically Buzz isn't the only one with that style of lineup and it is possible to win big that way.
And many contributors will VT have over 6'7"?
Johnny Hamilton 7-0
Khadim Sy 6-10
Kerry Blackshear Jr. 6-10
Greg Donlon 6-8
Johnny Hamilton? Greg Donlan? I said contributors.
Do you think they provide any real depth when Blackshear and/or Leday get in foul trouble? VT fans will be holding their collective breath if Blackshear and/or Leday were to be lost to injury. And Sy is a "maybe" at best right now.
Is the '16-'17 deeper and more talented in comparison to past VT rosters? No doubt. That this roster can lose Jalen Hudsen and probably not suffer means something. But I wouldn't call it top 25 in terms of overall team depth or talent.
That doesn't mean they can't be a top 25 team. Depth and talent aren't necessarily the end-all, be-all. But it will require some good favor with Blackshear & Leday. If either or both of them can't be on the court for significant minutes a game or (God forbid) games, the lack of front-court depth will become readily apparent. And that's what I'm getting at.
I would bet that Hamilton is a contributor this year. I could see him absorbing some of Shane Henry's minutes from last year and getting on the court a fair amount. He started last year multiple times. Also, never talk badly about Greg Donlon. He is a key facet to this team on the encouragement side. Plus, when he gets in the game he balls out.
When I listed the Villanova players I was just going off their roster, not who played significant minutes, so I did the same thing for VT's roster for comparison. If Blackshear plays 25 mpg, there are 15 minutes that need to be filled. Hamilton can play in spurts filling at least 5 mpg, or basically Henry's minutes from last season. That's only 10 minutes without a huge guy at center, that 10 minutes can also be played in spurts with LeDay at the 5. Clarke and Outlaw are 6-6 and Clarke can play similarly to LeDay, both creating a run and gun style. I haven't looked at Buzz's Marquette rosters, but I would think they were very similarly constructed and I know that Jae Crowder at 6-6 played a similar role to LeDay.
Huh? There are 12 scholarships. Most teams - good, bad, or indifferent - go with something like 4-4-4. Having a complete, balanced roster doesn't necessarily make you deep. Yes, having all of those wings can create match-up nightmares for the opposition...and for VT.
I love Leday and think Blackshear could be a very nice college player. But mark my words...VT's lack of depth inside will cost this team 3 or 4 wins next season. If Buzz could wave a magic wand, he'd take a half-way decent graduate student 4/5 in a heartbeat.
For VT, this is comparatively a deep team loaded with huge talent. I can't think of one obviously deeper with this level of talent since I started watching when we were in the CAA. Are we in the top 5 of the ACC? Probably not. Are we still in the bottom 5?
I think this season you may see alot of Seth Allen in that second position rather than Bibbs. Buzz just seemed to have more trust in Allen with the ball, especially to create opportunities and Bibbs unfortunately hasnt shown that drive inside very often to make me think he will supplant Allen unfortunately.
I see us having alot of this:
Robinson
Allen/Bibbs
Chris Clarke/Ahmed Hill
Ty Outlaw/Kerry Blackshear
Zach Leday/Kerry Blackshear
Whichever of these that Blackshear enters for, Blackshear would assume the "center" role while the other holding down the Power Forward role. Regardless, it makes it easy to see why Hudson decided to transfer though. He would have at best been the third option at the 2 or the 3 spot. Hell its scary to think that between Hill, Clarke and Outlaw we likely have to have one of them on the bench at all times.
Any word yet on Buzz naming a new assistant? Getting close to a big recruiting window for evaluating talent, especially on the AAU circuit so I would expect to see something soon.
Bibbs is a pure 3. He isn't great with the ball, but he can put it on the ground and get to the basket if he has to. I know everyone loves Clarke because he's obviously insanely athletic, but he's as raw as an ACC basketball player can be. Once he gets the ball he looks completely lost. We'll see how much he progresses with a full offseason, but I'm willing to bet it'll be his Junior year before he's somebody we can trust.
I wouldn't say Bibbs is definitely a 2 or a 3, he's just a shooter who can match up defensively with anyone's 2s, 3s and undersized 4s. He's also one of Buzz's favorite players, and definitely won't lose time.
As far as Clarke goes, two things you have to remember: 1. his injury wrecked the progress he was making earlier in the year. He's raw, definitely, but he also missed 6 weeks. And even coming back, he showed an ability to get in the middle of things and cause chaos (he was the only beacon of light as they got shredded in Charlottesville. I was there, and I'll tell you he and Justin Robinson might as well have been the only two Hokies in the building.)
And also, even accepting his rough edges, if he plays with four other highly skilled players, he doesn't have to be this crazy-athlete play maker that his talent level begs of him.
The missed time definitely didn't help, but he doesn't have much offensive skill yet. I don't think that's something you learn from playing during the season, it's something you learn in the offseason.
Great article Brian. I think this team is very talented. And let us all remember that talent alone, does not translate to winning games. If that was true, then Kentucky would win every game. It is about talent and the ability to play as a team and I do think this team is just as talented as Butler when they went to finals and I know our coach is just as good, now all we need to do is to leaarn how to play great team basketball and last year they proved they can do that. This years team, I believe will surprise a lot of people.
Cinderella, out of nowhere, Final Four team. Callin' it!
I'm so excited for Buzzketball that I can hardly contain myself. I'm actually getting season tickets this year and it'll be the first time I've done that for any sport ever. Also, it looks like Pig has been reranked by 24/7 sports after he committed to us (like Robinson did last year). He looks like a solid 3 star now.
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Really looking forward to the season. We are already getting recognition in few preseason polls!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2016/04/05/college-basketball...
http://virginiatech.247sports.com/Bolt/Virginia-Tech-lands-on-CBSSports-...
Had forgotten we had Ahmed Hill. Is it basketball season?
Have to imagine this is the Buzzketball coaching staff right now
It was nice to see Jalen at Benny's while I was there for a graduation last month, and spend some telling him how appreciative we were. It was also cool seeing Allen and Robinson hanging out together, although they were begging me for my slice of pizza.
I think we need a tale of the tape for the Scrappers. What are their fighter comparisons? Who is Ali, Tyson, Rousey?
Based on everything I saw last year, if we have just minimal improvement (certainly there is room for much improvement) down low from a scoring & defensive standpoint the Hokies should be a very solid team next season.