Hokies Open Fall Camp, Giving Spring Holdouts Chance to Get Back to "Full Speed"

No one was more excited for the Hokies to open fall camp than the key contributors forced to miss spring ball.

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As Justin Fuente walked off the field following Virginia Tech's opening day of fall camp, he reflected on a day's worth of data. Although he couldn't officially answer any burning questions, the head man had plenty of optimism about what the team had accomplished.

"I don't know if I felt like that or just hoped, but walking off the field, I feel pretty good about us having a general understanding of what's going on," Fuente told reporters after practice.

The first few practices are always a key part of any fall session, but when you add in a head coaching change and a radically different offense, there's always a little added worry about just how much knowledge a team would retain.

"My gut feeling just watching them move around was, I guess I should say my initial reaction was it was certainly better than our first practice in the spring," Fuente said. "They seemed to have a decent retention level."

Of course the pink elephant is still sitting squarely in the center of the room: is Fuente ready to name a quarterback yet?

"Not quite yet," Fuente said.

When the teams split into offensive and defensive units, it was JUCO transfer Jerrod Evans that took the first snaps with the first team offense. It's hard to tell if that was foreshadowing, or if Evans was simply the one to draw the name out of the hat, but it certainly makes one wonder if the coaching staff is leaning towards a certain side of the aisle.

While the quarterbacks were tucked away in their corner of the "Beamer Barn," there were some other takeaways from today's practice.

Several key players who were either held out or were injured in the spring were back to work today. That included WR Isaiah Ford, CB Brandon Facyson, RB Shai McKenzie, and RB Marshawn Williams. While Williams and McKenzie were both wearing knee braces, Ford was making plays and enjoying being back on the practice field.

"It was miserable for me sitting out most of the spring having to watch," Ford said. "So to be out there with everyone at full speed was really fun."

Ford has also packed on some weight this season in hopes of becoming a more physical receiver, as well as helping to lessen the blow of a long football season.

"I reported to spring ball, I was 179 (pounds)," Ford said. "As of last Wednesday, I was 195."

Weight gains and cuts seemed to be a big point of emphasis for the summer workout sessions under new strength and conditioning coach Ben Hilgart. Defensive end Vinny Mihota said the defensive line certainly heard plenty from Hilgart this summer.

"Everybody made their August goals for weight," Mihota said. "Some guys needed to lose, some needed to gain, but I feel like we are all where we need to be."

As for his personal goal?

"I wanted to drop down to 265 (pounds) and I made that."

The team's strength gains won't become fully apparent until the tolls of a rigorous campaign start to wear on the squad, but the enthusiasm is something that Fuente has noticed.

"I do believe, at least it's been my experience so far, that these guys are good listeners," Fuente said. "You can see them actively trying to do what we ask them to do. Which makes you feel good but also makes you look introspectively in 'How am I articulating it so that we can get it exactly?'"

Fuente also made more news about Henri Murphy available when he offered up that all the team needed to do was call Murphy's junior college (East Central Community College in Mississippi) and ask for him to be released.

"We just called and asked," Fuente said. "That's the truth. We just called and asked if they could release him and Coach (Ken Karcher) was great."

"I think his most comfortable spot starting out is at wide receiver."

On the flip side of the Murphy news, Deon Newsome was present and accounted for with "DBU" at practice today. Newsome was taking mixed reps in the 45-minute session that media was allowed to watch and offered his thoughts on day one playing for Bud Foster's side of the ball.

"Different. Good, I think I could be a good player on defense," Newsome said. "I feel like I need to make whatever happen, happen in order to make the team better."

Brandon Facyson was also back working at his corner spot after sitting the spring out following minor clean-up surgery on his knee.

"It feels great. I just kind of had to get back to where I was," Facyson said. "Seems like I'm getting back to where I once was and it feels good."

When Facyson was asked if he sees Foster's tweak of playing more zone coverage this season as opposed to years past, the junior didn't look too much into it. That seemed to be the mantra of the day: business as usual, with a slightly faster tempo to it.

"This year we really picked up the pace a lot," Facyson said. "A lot of fast movements, a lot of conditioning. I feel like we are in shape and feel like we've gotta attack every single day like that."

The offensive line also earned some some love today from the skipper, as he detailed the expectations he has for the now-veteran unit. With a core of starters returning this season, Fuente really likes what he has seen.

"I felt like, really since I've been here, that those guys have been the most consistent group just offensively," Fuente said. "A lot of juniors and seniors in that group that have played enough football that they know that an inside zone is an inside zone whether it's called something else in a different scheme, it's the same."

Junior guard Wyatt Teller echoed the coach's sentiments, albeit in cut-off, bibbed overalls.

"You know, the biggest thing, playing with these guys is trust," Teller said.

But don't let the praise fool you. Teller admits that he's his own biggest critic, something he attributes to his upbringing in a military home.

"I feel that I didn't come from a family where it was lollipops and pats on the back." Teller said. "I came from a tough family. Military dad. Tough, tough mom. Mom was the toughest person I know.

"Confidence is a little different, but where you're saying you're the best or something like that, I just don't believe in that. I'm always willing to get better, always thinking about the next thing to improve my play."

Teller recalled the first time he met Fuente and the advice that he gave the new coach.

"The first time I met him, we were talking about fishing on the New River and I was thinking, 'I don't think you're going to have a lot of time to fish on the New River, but I'll tell 'ya what works,'" Teller said. "Coach has to know you're real."

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Thanks, Ryan. Looking forward to your reports.

Coach sounded much more positive than he did in the spring. And pretty much everybody healthy?? (For now) Cannot contain the excitement and optimism.

Everything looked good. Although, we were only allowed to watch the first 6 periods (30 minutes).

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Thanks for the info Ryan. Any TMac sightings? All looking good on that front?

In the snap chat, Sam was still the 1, TMac was still the 2 in what little they showed. I am sure they are rotating. I barely got a glimpse of HBack but I think it was Cunningham there in one of the photos I saw.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Still holding out hope the Sam thing isn't a serious indicator of the depth chart at tailback. The TMac thing has been troubling all offseason, but I just can't imagine him not being the primary ballcarrier.

I understand the sentiment, but the coaches are the professionals and I think CJF will find a way to make the running game productive regardless of what the depth chart looks like.

He had a similar situation at Memphis with the QBs... He went with Paxton Lynch over an older more experienced QB when logic suggested otherwise.

Is coronavirus over yet?

He went with Paxton Lynch over an older more experienced QB when logic suggested otherwise.

I don't think this is a particularly good example to use as Lynch was the greater talent over the safe, more experienced option. (Sam Rogers is older, more experienced, safe option. TMac is the younger much, much more physically gifted, and productive runner.) The obvious athletic and physical differences, plus available production comparisons make it very obvious Sam Rogers is not a FBS caliber tailback, while we did have 1000 yard rusher who at times was brilliant. Using Sam Rogers as a primary ballcarrier will limit big plays in the run game, beyond any shadow of a doubt, compared to the likes of someone like TMac. Do I trust this coaching staff to produce a productive run game? Sure, they have the track record of doing more with less. But I think TMac is the obvious best option to receive the most carries.

TMac abs Rogers were the main two I saw running with first team. But he also had plenty of sets where they were in there together and Sam was taking that H-Back role that Fuente uses so much.

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Ah, thats good to know, thank you for the insight.

Using /s is for cowards.

On a side note, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one whose phone types "abs" instead of "and".

Thanks.

I think that abbreviation needs some refinement, since his last name is McMillian not MacMillian and all.

My mother's maiden name is McMillan and we have family members names that get the Mac abbreviation. I'd say really depends on how you pronounce it (Mac vs Mick), they're from Texas, jis saying.

I am 90% sure he pronounces is (Mick)Million, hence why I think we should give him a new abbreviated nickname.

Then we should probably tell McDonald's to stop selling the Big Mac.

"Exit light..."

Yeah just call it the McBig. Follows the way they name everything else. McNuggets, McFlurry, McChicken, etc.

And tell Tracy McGrady to stop going by T-Mac

As a Mc, I can tell you it can go either way. Every guy in my dad's family goes by Mac anyway.

T-Mac is probably just fine

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Also a Mc fine with Mac. Taught in a school where a lot of the students, and a few staff, had an issue with my name. Became coach Mac.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

Thanks for the report. Should be interesting watching camp go forward.

Junior guard Wyatt Teller echoed the coach's sentiments, albeit in cut-off, bibbed overalls.

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Ha!

To see a picture of that beautiful fashion statement, go to my Twitter. @Ryan4VT

(Not so shameless plug)

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Exactly the way any self-respecting offensive lineman should be attired. SPOT-ON!!!!!! (channeling my internal Tim Gunn)

"Don't go to, go through"

so, where are they cut off? calf? knee? upper thigh? even higher?

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Ummmm, why?

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Right above the knee caps. I wish I could have gotten a shot of that.

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Full speed? So does this mean everyone is ready to get fully dipped?

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Dork magic was out to play

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

Great article Ryan! Very happy about our seeming lack of injuries, the injury bug has been especially cruel to us the last three years. I really look forward to Shai and Juice factoring into the backfield again. They went from one of the most promising duos, starting as true freshmen, to complete afterthoughts after all these injuries and setbacks.

I like the 195 hp Twin Turbo version of Ford - should be able burn anyone who Volunteers to defend him...

I see what you did there.

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That's good because if you don't get terrible automobile based puns, you should focus your efforts somewhere else.

yeah, we could make a Five Hundred comment post just with Ford puns

so do your homework

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some people don't like the pun threads...we just might push them over the edge

Onward and upward

I could jumPinto a river.

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-What we do is, if we need that extra push, you know what we do? -Put it up to fully dipped? -Fully dipped. Exactly. It's dork magic.

Then if it pushes them over the edge, we'll just have to escort them out.

Let's Go

HOKIES

That might transform them into true explorers.

I prefer to call them members of the "Fuente Fiesta".

A decade on TKP and it's been time well spent.

With chimichangas I presume?

With maximum effort

A decade on TKP and it's been time well spent.

Look not all of the puns are going to be Prefect.

"Don't go to, go through"

Don't Punic, but I think you have discovered a new tangent for this riff.

We should probably move any further babel about this topic over to the fishing thread....

"Don't go to, go through"

Only one Ford pun allowed per post.

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Jeebus Chrysler!!! Only one?

Let's Go

HOKIES

Jeepus Chrysler

FTFY

Onward and upward

You really Dodged the obvious third part.

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you really don't want to Ram every pun you can think of into a single post....it's better to make a linguistic Journey of it

Onward and upward

We just someone to Escort us through it.

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That's we Rolls, Royce.

A decade on TKP and it's been time well spent.

Well that sure changes the Contour of this thread.

HTHokie93

F-150 isn't nearly as good as F-195

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So Murphy, Deablo, Patterson, Kumah, Wilson and Denmark are all brand new receivers to the program. Added with guys like Bradshaw and Carroll getting a look. That's 8 guys fighting to get reps behind Ford Cam and Bucky. Its just a numbers game at this point. A few of those guys are going to break out big time. My money is on Carroll and Patterson but the exciting thing is that it really could be anyone.

With the number of receivers we have coming in the '17 class, I think Fuente will have that depth he wanted real soon.

Coach Fu coming right out of the field...

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The Tellers are a great family. Glad to see Wyatt enjoying himself at VT!

How great did Click look in those snapchats! Can't wait for him to be named the starter.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

My gut says you are kidding, but I never truly know around here

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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He looked better than Lawson....

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Does that mean Lawson is transferring? Did they give you a timetable? Lawson must be transferring , right? Right?

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How about Jackson?

Jackson has consistently impressed me when I see him take reps. I think he could be the future once Evans is gone. Just my opinion, however.

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Don't sleep on Jackson, that kid is gonna be the real deal when its his turn...

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I was saying this after the spring game. From where I was sitting he looked like the best of the QBs that day. I think the future is bright.

Onward and upward

Well this turned out to be prophetic.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

I see no /s so he must be serious

Using /s is for cowards.

Actually looked pretty good.

I guess you could say it just sort of....clicked?

They showed a lot of #17, was that Jackson?

Let's Go...

Yes. Not sure why he was wearing 17 instead of 12, but it was him.

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Henri Murphy is now #12 on offense, can't have two #12 on the same side of the ball, and herefore Jackson had to switch to #17. At least that's what i saw somewhere else, could be wrong.

That is very well possible. Murphy wasn't on our guide, so that could be it.

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Clearly, in honor of one of the greatest gunslingers to ever play the game!

Who... ironically, also wore 12 in college...

In Lane Stadium, nonetheless

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

That took some thought and research.....

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"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Greatest ever? Interesting thought, he had some very good years but wasnt it only a few?

What makes you call him one of the greatest gunslingers ever?

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sarcasm?

Onward and upward

Listened to that for a bit. Man there are some Hokie names we all know on that team:

Jim Druckenmiller
Ken Oxendine (79 yds in the 1st qtr!!)
Shayne Graham
Torrian Gray
Antonio Banks
John Engelberger
Cornell Brown
Also listening to Roth and Burnop together is great!

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Great article. Honestly, I read TSL, Hokiesports and Andy Bitter's article and this one is more in depth covering good stuff that the other guys didn't. Thanks for bringing the best to your followers!

All Maroon, all the time!

I read TSL, Hokiesports and Andy Bitter's article and this one is more in depth covering good stuff that the other guys didn't.

I don't think there was EVER any doubt that this would be the case. Keep 'em coming, Rye!

Oh, stop it, you.

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Stranger Things gif :D

You reminded me that I wanted to make this one for its various uses during the season.

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Ryan transcribed 3,000+ words from the presser too. Expect him to start publishing all of that too once he gets his feet under him.

I assume this will be of interest to y'all?

Uhh, do camels shit'n spit in the desert?

According to my childhood, they spend most of their time at jazz clubs, pool halls, and other hangouts.

Kids love him!

A decade on TKP and it's been time well spent.

Let's analyze this shall we?

VT - Win. I know UVA hasn't beaten VT in like a million years or something

No, just 12 years. There's no need for hyperbole, it's bad enough for you just to state facts. Like your freshmen were wrapping up their first semester of kindergarten last time LOLUVa beat us.

but both teams are coming off disappointing seasons, both staffs are new and aren't carrying any personal baggage about that history, and this game comes after an entire season of forming new identities. This game will come down to which coach has righted his ship faster.

The baggage coming into this game is that one coach is under pressure not to break a 12 year streak and the other is in a position of seeing if, after a whole season with the team, he can show marked improvement over the last two coaches. And "righting the ship?" Our's needs righting after a 7-6 season punctuated by a high scoring bowl game. Yours needs a SEAL dive team to even see the mast after a fantastic two year improvement to 4-8.

My money is on Mendenhall, though I suspect this game will be a good, competitive one for years to come. I wouldn't expect to start winning it every year. a 50/50 split over the next 4 years is probably a reasonable expectation.

I'll take your money EVERY...SINGLE...TIME. The game has already been competitive often over the last decade and that's with us playing with 1 phase of the game taking winter break early. Our hallmark has been beating LOLUVa. Yours has been ending the season drowning your sorrows on the way back to "grounds" with a pint of rocky road and a six pack of zima.

If we lost to LOLUVa in the near future, it's not because Mendenhall has righted the ship, it's because the end times are here.

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To Add:

LOLUVA will get a bit better this year with simple organization, some (on the field) discipline, and in-game coaching decisions that will look better than they did with the last staff. So I do think they take a step forward this season...

HOWEVER, they will loose a TON of key guys after this season, leaving the team depleted IMO. LOLUVA will take a huge step back in the 2nd year because there is literally no depth anywhere on that team. combine that with an abysmal 2016 recruiting class and I'm not sure any reasonable human being would conclude that the series gains momentum any time soon.

Is coronavirus over yet?

The baggage coming into this game is...

...coming with the players. They want to beat us but we know how to beat them. And our guys take pride in laying down the beatings against that team. All those guys know is failure and a total lack of hope.

D@mn I wish Quin Blanding had come to VT.

I'm not even convinced they want to beat us

Onward and upward

I guarantee they want to beat us, but as one now famous UVA fan said on their message board "It just doesn't matter, they're going to beat the crap out of us again". :--)

after going over the schedule thoroughly the other day, I was having a hard time coming up with 6 losses. I kept coming up with only 4 but I am probably being overly-optimistic

Funny because when I look at that same schedule I have a hard time coming up with more than 4 wins

UConn - solid win. Mendenhall teams have dominated UConn in recent years. This UVA team has more talent than BYU typically had, and BYU-UVA games have been close, despite poor coaching at UVA. I generally don't expect UVA to lose to teams BYU would have handily beaten under Mendenhall.

LOL...shouldn't this be a point of concern? I'll be honest, I was willing to give Loeffler the full 3 years but I feel like a lot of pro-Loeffler supporters said stuff like this. "he did well at Temple" etc. etc.

If he admits that BYU-UVA games were close, then shouldn't they just expect more of the same?

Onward and upward

I just like all the comments about Mendenhall teams playing more physically. One, it makes me think of brawls. Two, it's easy to push the other guy around when your freshmen have an average of two years of development on your opponents freshmen...

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How about beating ACC teams?

Beating 7-6 teams from the Mid American should be the new normal.

Sounds like VTs crowd.

Duke, Pitt, Louisville, Miami - 2 wins, 2 losses. This crowd is where we fit in this year.

Fair:

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They also plan on beating these teams with a non-existent O-line.

Fire Whit.

Suddenly VT at 15-0 seems relatively sane. Hilarious stuff. Thanks for sharing.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

Basically every LOLuva fan in that thread.

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News of the weights on the DL is good to hear. I think Hilgart is one of the best hires that was made. I've been saying for the past couple of years that I thought our S&C needed to be revamped. Excited for this year.

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Time will tell - really hope it shows on staving off the injury bug. VT is long due for a break in that realm. (No pun intended...)

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It seems like Fuente limits info more than the previous regime, but a depth chart sure would be nice.

Info is very sparse. A lot of coach speak and vague answers.

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Any quotes about players or specific areas of concern?

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-What we do is, if we need that extra push, you know what we do? -Put it up to fully dipped? -Fully dipped. Exactly. It's dork magic.

Those reporters can really "get after you". :--)

A lot of good coaches don't give away team information very easily (see Bellichick & Saban), but then again, that might be in part related to their dislike of the media. I'm cool with being in the dark on a lot of the details associated with this team as long as we get our 8+ wins and beat the Vols!

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And UVA...