With the coaching Carousel already starting in week 4, I thought we could start this thread again.
School Fired Coach. New Hire
LSU Les Miles Fired. Ed Orgeron
Purdue Darrell Hazzell Fired
Texas. Charlie Strong. Fired. Tom Herman Hired
Oregon. Mark Heldrich Fired
Hot Seat List:
Brian Kelly ND
Clay Helton USC Won't be fired
Darrell Hazzell Purdue
Mark Stoops Kentucky Won't be fired
Paul Johnson GT Won't be fired
So you do you think will be next P5 coach to be fired?
Updating this. Wow did some coaches do a lot to protect their jobs. Helton, Stoops both will be at their schools next year.
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You can probably add Paul Johnson to the Hot Seat list. I'm hearing that is a mighty warm seat right now, and if they don't make noise in the ACC this year, he could be out.
I don't see anyway that the new AD keeps Johnson after this year.
That AD is going to have the money problem with firing Johnson. After every successful year, the old AD would extend Johnson's fully guaranteed contract. They are going to stuck paying Johnson 3 mil a year to not coach and have to hire somebody new. Something they have been doing with basketball for a while.
Also, firing PJ means the next coach likely has a new offense. All of the players on that offense are hand picked and built to run that offense. If a guy comes in with a spread offense, how many seasons will it take him to get the right guys in for that system?? That could be a consideration in Atlanta.
I mean, there is always Rich Rod
Be careful what you say .... stranger things have happened. :--)
Nebraska has fixed it pretty quick, that being said I dont think georgia tech has the same kind of donor.pull. Its going to be really interesting for them, uva might have some company at the bottom
The main obstacle to switching systems is the OL and a QB. QB can be solved in a season or two. Same goes for the OL, especially if they go for a quick-strike type spread offense. ECU/Duke style, (or hell even Fuente/Cornelsen style) where the ball goes where it goes quickly to minimize the impact of a pass rush, masking deficiencies on the OL.
GT consistently produces NFL caliber WRs even with PJ's system. Finding a decent passer at QB and developing an OL that doesn't have to chop block every play would be the biggest hurdles. That said, I would love to see GT fall into obscurity for at least a few years.
Um...like who?
According to this list, the only WR currently in the NFL from GT is Demaryius Thomas, who went to GT from 2006-2009. Chinballs didn't get hired until 2008. The only other WR of note from GT is the recently retired Megatron, who was long gone before CPJ showed up.
They've had more WRs drafted since he took over than any other position, but I'll accept being wrong because they aren't names I've actually heard of and it's only 4 of them. Waller was a WR at GT, but listed at TE for the Ravens
Stephen Hill was great at GT and was drafted in the 2nd round by the Jets. Played a few seasons there and then moved on to the Panthers where he got hurt.
Hill was decent, not great. He was tall and fast like Thomas, but his hands were extremely suspect.
More of the same as a Jet.
yeah, the money problem is alive and well for GT, they can barely make moves because they're paying two basketball coaches and a few other sports coaches NOT to coach there... and they're budget is tight
That face when you realize PJ might leave.
knees across the ACC pray it to be true
At least we know Bronco Mendenhall is safe after his team's monumental upset of CMU
Yea, he's solid now.
dude just bought himself 3 more years with that one
as long as tom herman is at houston you have to make a case for charlie strong.
Also the Bob Stoops boo birds are comin back out maybe put him on the luke-warm seat
Stoops is one coach I do not want to see go.
I wonder how Fu thinks of OU. He did transfer from there.
I don't want to find out.
As I recall, Fuente doesn't have a lot of nostalgia for OU. I remember reading something about him transferring due to a bad fit and Murray State feeling more like his alma mater than OU.
He's from Tulsa though, grew up there, and was a bit of a star in high school ball. Even if his playing there didn't work out, he could still have some sort of pull home (total speculation, just saying it's not unthinkable).
Perhaps that's because Murray State is his alma mater?
Unless they can come up with $12M, he stays, (Stoops). Strong's buyout is $10M.
Add Dave Doeren NC State to this list. If they lose to Wake this weekend he'll probably end up getting canned. Looking at their remaining games they'll probably miss a bowl no matter what.
I can guarantee they won't lose to every FBS team in North Carolina...they don't play Duke and App State, so there's that at least.
Don't think it's too hot, the AD is retiring in the next two years and appears to have no desire in another head coaching search.
Nah, he's fine for at least another season or 2. I haven't begun to hear any murmurings about the peons here in Raleigh being unhappy with that ship, and I think they realize the situation they're in with FSU, Clemson, and UofL on the schedule. They're still looking long term, which for them is a bit surprising.
NCSU might be a 4-win team this year. He would likely make it another year, but they aren't going anywhere with him.
He seemed like a solid hire at the time. Just goes to show the risk you're taking with coaching hires and fires.
I think NC State jumped a little early on him. 2 years at NIU with someone else's players, players who were cream of the crop for that level of competition. No proven ability to build a program. Defensive Coordinator background. And when he was hired NC State needed BUILDING not even just maintaining.
So far he is
'13: 3-9 (0-8)
'14: 8-5 (3-5) (bowl win)
'15: 7-6 (3-5) (bowl loss)
'16: 2-1 (0-0)
I think this year he needs to make a move in conference and go 4-4 or even 5-3. Certainly needs 6 or 7 regular season wins to maintain momentum, and ideally a bowl win to go 8-5 or 9-4.
Losses to Louisville, FSU, Clemson almost guaranteed, Must-win games are Wake Forest, Syracuse, Boston College. Probable losses to Miami, UNC (and Notre Dame) but if they pull a win in any of those, or upset one of the 'big 3' in the Atlantic then I think his job is safe for another year/extension. And heck, the way Notre Dame is playing that may even be a winnable match-up since it's a home game and ND is a shitstorm right now.
You gotta remember when evaluating Doeren - He started with nothing, similar to Mendendall at LOLUVA, and has built them into a team that is on the plus-side of .500 thanks to OOC cakewalks. He's gotta show some positive movement and get beyond .500 in conference now that he's increased the talent level.
He ended up going 3-5 in the conference. :poop emoji:
I imagine Florida State's DC position will open if they don't improve on that side of the ball soon.
Not to mention, Jimbo was upset at post game presser about the defensive effort.
Cut in stone. Sweat transfers to FIU.
James Franklin - Penn State. It's year 3, and being typical Penn State, they get uneasy about things not being what they used to be.
God, if there ever is a zombie outbreak, I'm blaming fucking Penn State for trying to resurrect Paterno.
Child molesters?
If I were Franklin, I'd want to leave b/c of the never-ending Paterno talk
why did something bad happen when Paterno was there? /s
depends who you ask
Nah, Paterno was railroaded.
Am I the only one who's still on the Gus Malzahn bandwagon?
-Won 3 HS state titles in Arkansas (and a couple more state championship appearances) as HC at 3 different schools
-OC at Arkansas for 1 year; goes to the SEC Title Game
-OC at Tulsa for 2 years; best offense in the nation both seasons
-OC at Auburn; won a national title and a Broyles Award
-HC at Arkansas State; wins the Sun Belt Championship in his only season
-HC at Auburn; National Title Game appearance in 2013 while winning every Coach of The Year award in existence
I find it odd that people are still debating whether the guy can coach or not. It seems like Auburn just can't find the right QB, that's all. Malzahn can get it straight. Firing him would set the whole program back and another program would snatch Malzahn up within 10 minutes of his firing.
I also really like Malzahn, but I'm also not the typical GED toting Auburn fan. His seat is safe as long as they beat Bama once every 4 years.
HAHAHA! GED toting......I mean you are assuming they followed through and got one.
Well, yeah. Without the GED, they'd be Bama fans.
You'd think that an offensive-minded HC could maintain offensive productivity and make sure he has the right QB though...
Malzahn is a safe bet. If they don't keep winning, he'll be gone.
Malzahn let the OC call plays for the 1st time vs LSU. Their O seemed to have consistency that's been lacking in other games. Perhaps he's learning how to be a HC and not a OC that's responsible for everything.
Malzahn will be good wherever he ends up (Houston?) but he's about done at Auburn.
There should be a ranking of a programs mojo. Auburn, even with the win last week, has bad mojo with Malzahn. There aren't a lot more wins on that schedule.
According to Auburn fans they were Jerod Evans' top choice but Mahlzan told him they weren't taking a juco quarterback this year. Then they turned around and offered Franklin III (who couldn't even hold the starting job at his juco if netflix tv shows are to believed) as an "athlete" and immediately convert him to qb. Pretty big miss for a coach on a hot seat in desperate need for a quarterback.
Auburn fans say that about just about anyone. Evans was committed to Fuente at Memphis and then when we hired him Evans committed to the Hokies. That looks like Fuente was Evans' first choice, not even a school but a coach.
I'm fairly sure he was never committed to Memphis. The story I've heard is that Evans recruiting got too big for Memphis and he moved on, Missouri was the front runner for a while as well.
Oh wow, I always thought it was a "Fuente found his guy" kind of thing. Makes me even happier he ended up at Tech if that's the case.
Per one of our current coaches, Texas offered Evans while he was on his official visit to VT
I actually just heard this same story from an auburn grad this weekend.
Next P5 firing is Helton the day after they lose to UCLA and are eliminated from bowl contention.
I'm extremely curious to see what position Saban has in mind for him
OC likely to be open at Bama after this year. There's gotta be a team dumb enough to hire Kiffin.
Enter LSU. Firing Miles proves they are stupid enough.
You think firing Miles was a bad idea?
I used to think it would be a dumb idea. But after seeing them not develop qb talent and squander butt loads of talent, I agree with the decision. They bring in just as much talent as Bama...it's unreal.
No, I meant LSU could hire Lame Kitten.
I think if Jimbo goes to FSU, I could see Kiffin land in Tallahassee. Dabo vs Kiffin.
I'm taking Dabo every. God. Damned. Time in that match-up.
I think they've waited with Helton just because they didn't want to be the first major program to fire their head coach this year. I think he's gone after the next loss, if not sooner.
I don't think he lasts that long.
Agreed. This was a bizarre hire. Their AD isn't too good at coaching searches though.
We can safely add Fuente to the hotseat. Everything about this team is on fire.
Ironic, considering last years discussions, but RichRod might want to win a few games.
RichRod has a pretty sweet contract. I'd be surprised if Arizona fired him, they'd be giving up a ton of cash to get rid (sound familiar with this guy?), and I'm not sure they have that stashed away. I live in Tucson and I haven't heard any overt rumblings that he's in trouble. They're happy with bowls here (and beating Arizona State).
Yeah, like the NCSU coach, RichRod has a pillow year. But if they win 3 or 4 games, next year will be rough.
Are you guys talking about the RichRod of WVU, Michigan, and Arizona fame? I don't see his usual supporter cheering him on here.
... because he's not being suggested as on his way to Blacksburg, that's why.
So Charlie Strong's seat is on fire. Apparently so much so that Texas has openly started swooning Tom Herman and hinting at Strong being out at seasons end.
Defensive coordinator has also been demoted and Strong has taken over defensive play calls. This puts pretty much all of the pressure on him to fix the defense.
The battle for Herman could get epic. I don't think LSU can pony up the $$ to beat out Texas but damn that man is about to get paid.
And if LSU misses out on Herman, their sights are set on a bevy of ACC coaches.... Jimbo, Petrino, and Fedora are all rumored targets
I've heard Fedora and think he would be the most likely to bolt given the academic scandal. While I doubt anything will happen with that, it seems easier to recruit without that headache. Petrino is a slimeball, but I don't see him jumping Louisville against this early. Jimbo is interesting. If FSU's seasons keeps going down, I can see him taking the call and who knows from there.
my personal nightmare is Jimbo leaving and FSU getting Herman
Its interesting to think.
So lets say this all plays out, and Strong is out at Texas. Then you have LSU and Texas with job openings (yep, glad we aren't in this mess this year) and one true unicorn out there in Herman. LSU is great and SEC and all, but Texas is the better opening with the bigger pockets, so I see Herman going there. LSU is then left with the guy they wanted last year in Jimbo. Assuming this plays out, this leaves FSU with an opening and no real great candidates to turn to. Maybe Chris Petersen at Washington or David Shaw at Stanford, but would either want to leave what they have currently set up? I would normally put Fedora in that list, but I don't see him bolting for another ACC job.
FSU boosters have to secretly be in panic mode right now, because this could blow up in their face... fast.
I was thinking the same thing, but what if LSU strikes first and grabs Jimbo and Texas decides to stick with Strong for another year? FSU could go after Herman.
I don't think that's likely. I think Texas will jump in since there hasn't been much improvement since Strong got there and their great win against ND doesn't look as good now that ND is just ordinary. Speaking of ND, I wonder if they think about jumping into the coaching search as well. Imagine ND and Texas both going after the same candidate.
Geez, I hadn't even thought of that. We're looking at a year where LSU, Texas, and ND could all have openings. A school like FSU, who in 95% of the years would be a 1a job opening would be relegated to 3rd in the overall pecking order... at best.
I still say Herman would pass on LSU for either ND or Texas, but that would be interesting. At that point, I could see both Jimbo and Fedora out of the ACC in 2017, with both FSU and UNC stuck. And if that happens, UNC might be utterly boned.
I hope UNC does end up utterly boned...they don't deserve to have nice things
I want everyone we play to just be good enough to make our dominating wins over them look real good, but not good enough to legitimately be able to beat us.
Gus Malzahn to UNC. Book it...
I forgot about Auburn in all this. Man this is fun to watch...when our school isn't involved.
lol right, add in Auburn...
So take my below theory... and add in Auburn... You're looking at an offseason where Texas, LSU, ND, and Auburn all have openings by season's end. The fallout from this could leave FSU looking for a coach as well. This thing could domino effect into Jimbo, Fedora, Petrino, and/or Dabo all bolting out of the ACC prior to the start of the 2017 season.
I think FSU is a better job than Auburn. I think it's probably a better job than LSU, but Jimbo has a connection there which makes it appealing for him.
Don't forget Penn State in that mix.
Mullen from Miss St is a PA guy.
0% chance PSU gets rid of Franklin this year. 0%
What if they don't make a bowl game?
0%
add in USC potentially
From the Not-So-Fast-My-Friend school of thought, let me play devil's advocate for a second:
Let's say we do as well as we all hope for the remainder of the season....Offense hums along, D is crushing, we go 11-1, and end up in the playoff. I seriously doubt that CJF would be going anywhere, but what about Coach Cornelsen? Do you think he might be a suddenly hot property? Probably wouldn't be a target of one of the big jobs (LSU, Texas, etc.), but he could be poached as a middle-of-the-road school hire (say an NC State or Houston job, if Hermann leaves). Or, what happens if (heaven forbid) someone comes looking for Bud again because he's suddenly considered a genius again (even though we know he always has been one)? Things can get sticky very fast at the end of the season.
While I generally enjoy chaos theory as much as anyone when it comes to college football, I prefer it in smaller doses than what looks like may transpire at the end of this season. There's a lot of very unsettled people with a whole lot of money and very little patience out there. Some of these schools need to seriously consider what they're doing. They may be ushering their version of Frank Beamer out the door.
I don't see any of the coaches leaving after one season, even if we make the playoff.
Corn would be the most likely of those listed. If he does I would assume the Fuente would promote Wiggins given his time with him.
That would be known as the Stinespring fallacy
Completely different. It's Fuente's system and Wiggins has been in it for awhile. Beamer didnt have a system to teach or run so Stiney was running his own.
Let's file that under "Good Problem to Have."
IIRC (I may not), I think this is only Cornelsen's second year of play calling? I'm far more worried about Foster leaving than Cornelsen.
Agreed. People have to be looking at Narduzzi and Foster and thinking about what could be...
I hadn't really either until I started thinking about it in this thread. I think Texas will move on from Strong and enter the race. I don't think, at this point, that ND will get rid of Kelly, but who knows. I kind of get the feeling that Fedora will get one of the jobs and leave UNC. Maybe UNC hires Strong?
You know what, the more I think about it, UNC probably already has their next head coach in Chizik. Fedora gets hired away and they likely promote from within.
Lets say it all happens. Texas gets Herman, LSU gets Jimbo... Fedora is probably headed to either FSU or ND at that point, and UNC promotes from within. That leaves either ND or FSU with an opening and no real good candidates left. Lets say Fedora goes to FSU, that leaves the door wide open for ND to start throwing money at someone like Dabo.
Man, things could get extremely interesting this year. Let me reiterate, I'm glad we got our guy last year.
You beat me to it...Dabo hasn't been mentioned in any of this. He gets paid a tonnn at Clemson...but I imagine he's holding out for when Saban retires (alma mater).
Oh absolutely, but if someone like ND comes calling, that could blow up his plans. That's arguably a more ludicrous job opportunity with more potential for individual success than Alabama. We already saw what Dabo could do at Clemson... Now imagine him at ND able to do his thing on exclusive national TV every week on NBC.
OMG can you imagine the meltdown in Clemson if Dabo jumps ship...kinda makes me giddy just thinking about it...who do they go after then?
Promote Venables? I'd say bring Chad Morris back, but he's not doing so well at SMU.
Can you imagine an offseason where Dabo, Jimbo, and Fedora are gone? Hell, we could be looking at one where Dabo, Jimbo, Fedora, and Petrino are gone. The ApoCCalypse would be devastatingly tasty to watch. Would suck for our conference, but after listening to all those fans the past few seasons, I would enjoy the show
That's a good call. I wonder if they keep Chizik as their fail safe and try to make a play for someone else first? If Auburn moves on you've got Malzahn in play. Do you think they would promote a DC instead of going after an offensive coach to keep their O going?
I don't think ND wants to be searching when Texas is so I think they stand down for now. I could see it being musical coaches where everyone just swaps coaches since, outside of Herman, who is there for them to go after?
I could see Auburn going full court press to get someone like Petrino. If they can't get him, I would think they'll look at candidates like RichRod, Petersen, or Fedora.
If Auburn shitcans Malzahn, which they shouldn't, then yeah - the UNC job is a consideration of Auburn's ousted coaches.
As an opposing fan, if Larry leaves I definitely want them to promote Chizik over bringing in Malzahn. This would be Gene's third stint. I do not want to face off with Malzahn every season, I think he is a far better coach than Gene/Larry. I doubt Chizik sticks around past this season if anyone else gets that job over him however.
Here's one scenario that could play out. Nothing too concrete, just hearing talk from the media.
Why on earth would Kingsbury leave the head coaching position at his alma mater to be Alabama's OC??
If FSU manages to not make the ACC title game (pretty much unattainable for them now unless they shock Clemson and somehow Louisville loses again and Clemson also loses to another acc school), and not make a New Years Six Bowl... I don't think their boosters would be too happy with him.
apparently jimbo was ->THIS <- close to leaving for LSU last year before they decided to keep Les...
...before firing him less than a year later anyway.
My understand was that LSU kept Les because Jimbo got cold feet at the last second. His divorce may have had something to do with that.
I still haven't figured out why Fedora is high on anyone's list. He has done a decent job recruiting, but the school already had momentum there from the previous staff. Has he actually elevated the talent there? I don't know.
As a coach, he is good... But is he big time SEC or P5 good? Not in my opinion. He is a younger version of Les Miles (terrible in-game coach) who the players like. Is UNC's success a result of the Coastal division having been a train wreck for the past few years? I think so.
the scary thing about Fedora is if he didn't make head-scratching decisions (like not feeding hood much last year, among others) UNC would be a scary good offensive juggernaut. But thankfully he's holding them back so they're only really good at offense.
From an ADs perspective he's a coach that's proven he can recruit and win at the P5 level and is a "safe" hire. They can go with someone like Fedora that has some track record or take a shot on a lower level "hot" coach, a P5 coordinator, or a re-tread. They all have pros and cons.
At this point, a lack of other qualified candidates. But a year ago, nobody was talking about Herman, Fuente, Babers....even Richt and Mendenhall weren't expected to be part of the pool.
Do y'all believe there's a chance Herman stays at Houston and
continues building it up?
Herman stays if the Big 12 makes Houston an offer. I think his salary increases three million a year if they become a P5 member.
Personally, I don't. He was interested in moving last year but didn't like any of the offers and signed an extension with UH for about $2.25M. Strong makes $5M/yr+ at Texas. Factor in that when the Big12 dissolves Texas will get into one of the remaining conferences with UH may not.
The sips were also rumored to be willing to pay Saban $10M+/year. Not that they'll give Herman that much, but it goes to show how much money they have to work with. They can outspend anyone they choose to, including U$C, ND, and F$U. I don't know whether UTw, LSU, or F$U makes more sense for him, but I just don't see him staying at Houston long-term.
That said, Texas isn't going anywhere without Houston:
I don't buy for a second that Texas' future is tied to Houston.
This. Texas will lookout for Texas.
Of course. But the governor and the legislature have the final say, just as we saw in VA.
You assume the state government cares about anyone other than Texas, especially if its 'do what's good for UT or do whats good for Houston, Rice, TT, Baylor, and SMU'... This isn't like the Virginia gov't railroading UVa into getting us into the ACC, this would be like the Virginia gov't saying that VT can't go to the SEC because it would hurt the chances of ODU, JMU, and Liberty getting into the ACC.
Um, the tweet I linked was from the governor of the state of Texas: "Big 12 expansion is a non-starter unless it includes University of Houston."
I don't know how it can be made more clear than that.
Right. Because politicians always say what they mean and mean what they say...
If anything this tells me the Governor knows that expansion is a non-starter (which has been apparent to me since Boren first openly opined a yr and a half ago) but he gets to look like a man of resolute action while firmly straddling the fence.
As I said, I don't buy for a second that UT's future is tied to Houston.
I'm currently living in Houston and the talk is that Texas is lobbying for UH to get into the B12 because they'd like to open up a satellite campus out this way
Like this report from June, for example.
Politicians got Baylor into the Big XII
They also got us on the ACC...
Everyone. Hey everyone not just vtfly. Hi, hey, just FYI, Houston's board of directors is stocked with oil billionaires who want to keep winning. There isn't an offer that can be made that Houston cannot match.
Moot point, Houston is going to go to the SEC.
And who do you think Texas' board is stocked with? Pile on that there is no way they would let another in state school beat them for the person they want. I never got the impression that Herman was there for the long haul and he's not going to find a better paying job than Texas.
Yes...and oil prices are less than half what they were 2 years ago (don't think that wasn't a factor in Charlie Strong still being at UT this season). Even oil barons have their limits.
What were the details on Herman's extension. He was the hottest name in coaching last season too. I thought Houston gave him another big raise and some years, was there a significant enough buyout that he might be coaching the Cougs again next season? Does a top 5 program not give a shit and pay the buyout for him?
http://www.si.com/college-football/2015/12/04/tom-herman-contract-extens...
Basically $2.5M, but could be less. My guess is that Texas wouldn't blink an eye to pay it to get him.
Rumors have it that Texas boosters will pay any amount of money for a buyout. Of course that could just be Finebaum writing his own headline, but I wouldn't rule it out by any means.
Have you seen finebaum with those ears? He hears things us mortals can't
Texas has money. Butt loads of it.
Anyone else feel like it's simply a matter of time before we lose Buzz and Fuente to a blue blood? I can't shake that feeling. VT, which isn't a blue blood football program even historically and isn't a basketball school in the smallest sense somehow landed blue blood caliber coaches for both teams...
Someone tell me it will be OK and that they will both be coaching for the Maroon and Orange for the next decade.
When you get in a relationship do you just constantly think that your gf/bf is constantly going to leave you?
If they do, then they have both left VT in a better place than when they got here. No use is worrying about it. Beyond that I think they both enjoy what they are building.
Please... don't be that fan
Buzz likes Blacksburg. There's no guarantee he won't leave eventually. But regardless, if/when he leaves, we will be in a much better position than we have ever been in the past in basketball. We are poised to seriously compete in the ACC this year. Recruiting is going extremely well also. We will be in a better position to make a good hire seeing as how we most likely won't be a dumpster fire but a team that competes and competes well in the nations best basketball conference. For Fuente, he literally just got here less than a year ago and is 5 weeks into his first season. There is no reason to worry about him at this point. Not to mention, the coastal makes for an achievable path to the playoffs. It's a good spot for a coach to have success.
We have a couple things working for us
- Sky is the limit for our programs (conference affiliation, facilities)
- Good relationships with our athletic director
- Fuente and Buzz have 3/4 kids each in Bburg schools
Limiting factors:
- Not a blue blood
- Lack of $$$ to keep them from the Hokie Club
So if you like the success we're having and want to keep them... please donate to the Hokie Club! Otherwise, when they leave, you're KINDA responsible ;)
Whitt is the key! As long as he keeps them happy, I can see CJF here for the long run. Buzz may leave if there is an opening near his home town. But they both seem to like Whitt and Whitt doesn't hold back money on coaches or amenities, which is a huge plus.
Thanks for the thought, but I doubt I have anything to do with it... /s
Whit is a factor, but ultimately money is the key. And not just salary for the HC and the staff.
Yeah, sure. Scuttlebutt says that Buzz was really, really interested in the TCU opening last year. At this point, I tend to think we've got Buzz until Med Hill graduates. They are close. Hopefully in that time, we win something significant enough to raise our profile so that the schools that are clearly a better gig is a shorter list. But Buzz has made an odd move before (he even quit UNO as HC after one year), so who knows what he's thinking.
I would think we have Fuente for at least another 3 years. His relationship with OU may help, he did leave there on purpose. And that probably means he's got less of an interest in Okie St as well. That's two home state schools that may not be a slam dunk for him. That leaves the big Texas schools, Arkansas (maybe), LSU, Nebraska as geographical fits. Once you get past geography, you can certainly make the case that VT fits as many other boxes as he's looking for.
But for every logical jump (Richt -->UGA) you have an illogical jump (Mendenhall -->UVA). If I was to guess, I would put money on aTm as Fuente's next spot. But who knows maybe he ends up at something illogical, like UCLA or Wisky. Or that he stays here forever and ever, Amen.
I don't buy that Buzz was even sorta interested in the TCU job.
Buzz is far more astute than most of the idiots covering and commenting on conference politics and maneuvering. He left a solid Big East program with basketball history to go to a bottom tier ACC program for reason. And he wasn't going to leave that same soon-to-be mid-tier ACC program for a bottom tier program in a potentially soon-to-be extinct Big12 - just because Buzz is from Texas.
Oklahoma or Texas? Sure. TCU? Sell.
This.
Don't want to toot my #sauces horn too much, but my understanding is that Buzz didn't give anyone the time of day last spring.
I could see Buzz leaving eventually. Fuente is in a little better spot. We are a football school in a P5 conference with a history of winning football (even if it's getting more distant by the year). I could be wrong and their both gone in a couple years but I'd like to think VT football is a destination instead of a stepping stone.
Well IF they leave, Whit will hire someone great. But lets just take it one step at a time
This is almost stating the obvious but Yahoo and ESPN both have reports that Strong is basically out at the end of the season. But what if he wins out, would they rethink the decision?
Texas will have a tough time winning out...Oklahoma, Baylor, TCU...those are all tough outs
Suppose they do though. A victory over Oklahoma always bodes well, TCU is not what they have been, and Baylor, honestly I have no idea of their identity. Say he grabs those three, and wins out. Do they reverse decision? I think they would, because it would still show an increase over his tenure!
Doubtful... They want Herman bad!
So, 8 wins? No, not really, but yes, probably.
Add Oregon to the list?
They'd be wise to wait another year and wait for the Chip Kelly NFL experiment to end. I dont see San Fran being a good team, even if they get the next draft's biggest name. NFL owners and fans are impatient, I doubt he last his full contract.
Maybe they can even get Helfrich to take a demotion /s
Seriously though, he seems more likely a candidate to slide back to coordinators role as opposed to taking another head coaching job at a lesser school.
I think it's a bit too early to write off Helfrich just yet - though his inability to recruit and develop a QB does throw up red flags. He has had to rely on a grad transfer two years in a row, but at least they are still scoring points.
The real head scratcher was hiring Brady Hoke as the DC; someone who was never a DC. I know they are adjusting to a 4-3, but the results have been bafflingly bad. For me, he needs to be called in for a meeting with the Bobs:
I long thought that David Shaw at Stanford was going to slowly decline after Harbaugh left. While I've been watching that program closely, I totally ignored the crashing and burning that Helfrich has done in Eugene. He's gonna have to be gone soon. I'm betting this year but I could see them holding off until next year.
Losing 70-21 at home to Washington is not a good look and is going to warm Helfrich's seat. Yes, Washington is good this year, but the Oregon faithful are used to being at that same level. And they just got taken to the woodshed.
It seems Beamer stepped down at the right time. Last year, the marquee open jobs were UGA, Miami, VT, and USCali. USC and UGA being the only schools that are true blue bloods. But USC AD Haden was sick and retiring, so he hired the guy that was easiest. UGA and Miami probably didn't seriously consider Fuente, and Fuente didn't seriously consider them back. So, it was perfect and natural for the Fuente to VT hire.
This year, though, with LSU, Texas, ND, and USCali (with new AD Lynn Swann, yes THAT Lynn Swann) among any other schools that may have their coach bolt (e.g. FSU), it would have been difficult for VT to hire a coach the caliber of Fuente. I would imagine Fuente would have a hard time not listening to any of those schools, even if they didn't offer that serene setting that makes Blacksburg great to raise your kids.
#Blessed
TKP, November 30, 2015
And I seem to remember an article, either here or at the Roanoke Times, where Whit and Fuente pretty much only had one name on their respective lists.
Different circumstances
At that time there were a lot of pundits claiming we were the top job in the market. At that time it doesn't surprise me that Fuente possibly had us #1 and stopped taking calls after we reached out. That said, if we had to do it this year, we'd legitimately be lucky to be the 5th top opening on the market given some of the schools being talked about.
And, besides, not sure I believe him on that. We've all said that the job you currently have is your dream job. But if USC doesn't call or Texas doesn't open up, then you aren't that interested in them.
He said the right thing. But I wouldn't take that as gospel anymore than I take Whit's saying "Fuente was the only one we wanted" as truth. I would be shocked if they didn't check on Herman's interest.
oh yeah, she's hot.
**cue lots of disappointed googling.
Sorry to disappoint. I figured people would know hall of fame WR of Pittsburgh, broadcaster, former republican governor candidate of Pennsylvania, and now AD of USC. I find it crazy the breadth of work and his ability to keep rising in all his efforts. It does seem random, without knowing his full bio, how he became AD of USC, when I don't know if he has ever worked for a collegiate program before.
Don't forget his cameo appearance on the Waterboy.
OK OK OK everyone read this
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17730560/penn-state-ad-r...
This is why Franklin's seat at PSU isn't even warm.
ITS LEMONADE MAN
You lost me
Purdue fired Hazell
Les Miles to Purdue. Make it happen college football gods.
Wow. I feel like Purdue would be the safest job in college football. No reason for any expectations at all...
Fun Purdue Fact: They have had one 10 win season in the entire history of their football program.
Does Strong make it out of the airport if Texas loses to Kansas State?
He'll make it to the end of the season, then gonzo. Hopefully we can put a nail in Brian Kelly's coffin.
I think if he doesn't go 2-0 against the service academies, that coffin will already be six feet deep before we go to South Bend.
If they don't make a bowl, he'll be done at that point.
Fresno State fired Tim DeRuyter today and the interim coach is Eric Kiesau.
Major implications for LSU's and UT's bidding war for Herman.
I saw Kiffin mentioned here
Early speculation has two names bubbling up to the top for this one: Kiffin and Jeff Tedford. Both have connections (Kiffin former QB/student coach, Tedford former QB coach/OC), and both are having resurgences right now (Kiffin obviously as Bama's OC, Tedford believed to be a driving part of Washington's resurgent offense this year)
I'm gonna go with Helfrich next. Then Kelly. Then Strong. After KSU loss, I'm now not sure Strong finishes the season.
This is the kind of quote that's going to make any AD cringe. From Donovan Jeter, 4* DE who de-committed from ND and has now committed to Michigan:
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/high-school-football/2016/10/23/Beave...
That's surprising. Kelly seems like a really fun guy
/s
Are you only including power 5 teams? The FIU, Fresno St and another non p-5 teams fired their coach
P5 and notable other teams (ND, Boise, Top 25 G5 teams) or teams that might hire away Tech staffers.
There's starting to be buzz and rumors around a deal for Herman to Texas. Not sure how credible it all is, but it wouldn't be surprising.
Which VT staffers have good connection to new head coaches.
As much as I love the Foster-Fuente marriage, bud deserves to be a head coach. He ain't getting any younger and I know over the last 10 years he's said as much.
Which is why I doubt he leaves for the kind of job he wants. Bud doesn't want to be saddled with a rebuild. I just don't think it's in him. But those are the jobs that will be open to someone with no prior HC experience. And he's not going to hang around in a FCS or G5 job for 5-10 years just to try to get back to being an FBS HC at a decent program. I really doubt he'd do that. He seems really happy in the current situation, and I suspect both he and Fuente know there's something special brewing in Blacksburg. Foster loves VT, just look at how emotional he's been in interviews talking about what's being built at VT, especially in regards to Beamer's legacy and the foundation he laid.
Crazy stuff happens in the offseason, though, so I guess we have to wait and see.
I think more likely is the OC getting a HC shot. Maybe another assistant coach being offered a bigger job.
So Texas A&M is hiring?
Do they even bother to search anymore or do they just do an airdrop of cash over our coach's house?
then he should have gone out and become a head coach.
Maybe he's made up his mind he doesn't want to be head coach anymore and is content with being an excellent DC on a staff with excellent coaches?
Seriously, can we not go more than a few months without going all desperate girlfriend about our coaches?
@Rockypere
Couldn't agree more. I don't see Foster staying much longer. This isn't a "break up", its Foster getting the shot he's wanted all his life. With his fire, I can't imagine him giving up on his dream (even just to try it out).
I don't see cornelson moving on
yet
if our offense gets even better next year and we break into the top 20 offenses he could get the Chad Morris treatment
Cornelson apparently doesn't like to talk to the media. Talking to (and managing) the media is one of the most important responsibilities for a head football coach.
that seems speculative...in any case, looking at competence alone, I think IF our offense continues to improve and finds itself in the top 20 by the end of the year next season there will have to be at least some ADs showing interest in him. If your rumor that he "apparently doesn't like to talk to the media" is accurate that will probably get exposed in the interview process....but I don't think it will stop ADs from pursuing him.
Anyway, I'm not sure that distaste for speaking with the media is necessarily a deal breaker. I'm pretty sure Saban hates talking to the media but he is obligated to do so and he does it reluctantly.
Waitwaitwait...
Urban Meyer just lost a game he shouldn't
Urban Meyer has always said that ND is his dream job
ND is bad
Any chance Urban threw the OSU/PSU game so he wouldn't have to coach in the playoff and he could take the ND job after ND doesn't make a bowl game this year? Is he pulling a RichRod?
Nailed it.
Starting to sound like Addazio is out at BC at the end of the year. They won't announce it until after the final game, but apparently the decision has already been made. This would mean in back to back years Loeffler headed the offense for a head coach in his last year at that program.
AND the last three places Loeffler has coached his last year was the head coach's last year.
Scot Loeffler kiss of death. He's like a good luck Chuck for people who want to get rid of their head coach. I bet GT forces Johnson to hire him next season...
Athletic Director: "Coach, I'd like to introduce your new OC... Scott Loeffler."
Coach: "Dammit."
Well that's certainly not a great reputation to be pinned with. He was also OC when chizik was fired at Auburn.
Some luck. Wonder if he lands anywhere else as an OC, or if he'll go back to being a qb coach.
Poor BC, still has to play NC State, Louisville, Wake Forest and Florida State.
They're going to have back to back seasons without conference wins.
Hard to find a program that wants a QB coach who isn't the OC
Maybe he will head to the NFL. His schemes might work there.
To kill the NFL..... I like the way you think.
Yeah hopefully he winds up on the Cowboys offensive staff. The cowboys being a shitty team is just good for America.
I wouldn't call it luck when you can't put up a competent offense
Ugh, that's too bad. I like Addazio.
As for Loeffler, I think it's time to bump down a rung and take a mid major coordinator position. His luck may have run out in P5
worked when he was at temple, granted bernard pierce was an nfl caliber rb
Is Narduzzi's seat hot if his ass is red all the time?
Larry Fedora is on the short list for head coach at LSU - already been contacted
They must really want to abandon the run game.
Seems like Orgeron is doing a pretty good job auditioning for this one. LSU would have to be crazy to toss a good interim coach with connections to the program for a guy whose best season is as runner up for the ACC championship and comes saddled with a hefty buyout.
Then again, this is LSU...
Saw this as well, but all signs still pointing to Jimbo being their primary target. After back to back disappointing years in Tallahassee does Jimbo seriously consider bolting? LSU is more or less a lateral move, but LSU can match anything FSU can, plus you have a damn near monopoly on an entire state of solid talent with Alabama stealing a big one every year or so.
Jimbo is a quarterback away from the playoff conversation every year. Once Watson's gone and Bridgewater flirts with the NFL, i'd guess FSU is the favorite next season. Francois is a good player with years to dominate, I wouldn't be surprised to see them win another national championship in the next 2 seasons. I dont see him leaving with the a young QB who gives you title chances next season.
Maybe, he is feeling a little more heat with Louisville's rise and Clemson's continued dominance. But, there are more scrubs in the ACC than the SEC. I'd expect him to stay at FSU unless he really thinks his seat is warming because they have a presumed easier route to a playoff spot.
Lamar Jackson turning into Bridgewater is a pretty hilarious mix up haha. He's a true sophomore though and will be returning to Louisville next year.
Also I'm not arguing that he should go. There is no worse job than having to beat Alabama every year or your season be disappointing. If I were him I would totally stay at FSU, they almost beat Clemson during both years of them having the best QB they will likely ever have.
Woof, my b. Maybe Minnesota might actually have a first round pick again when Jackson is coming out, as it sounds like Teddy's knee is no more.
I agree - a national championship at FSU buys your more good will than a fresh start with high expectations at LSU.
Yes, poor Teddy, I am a Vikings fan and there are definitely a lot of people who think he will never be able to play football again. We will see.
Wow, really? I hadn't heard that. And wasn't it non-contact as well? That's tragic.
Then FSU turns to Fedora?
{Assuming, and praying, Herman stays at Houston until Texas or aTm open up}
Not hot-seat related but Butch Davis just took the job at Florida International.
That will upset those people at UNC. Don't they want Butch back after all most of their NCAA violations started when he was there.
Well, good news is at least we dont have to listen to his "analysis" on E$PN.
But why Butch? You 64 and FIU is a shit program that should have never dumped Mario Cristobal.
Butch was supposedly considered for the Miami gig last year. Sure, his name has more weight there than anywhere, having been a popular coach there in the late nineties and having handed Larry Coker the keys to a natty. But were talking about drastically different opportunities in Miami in UM vs FIU..
On purpose?
I expect his salary cap at FIU to be lower than it was at unCheat and daU, unless of course FIU has its super-booster a la Nevin "Boats n Hoes" Shapiro!
Anyone else think GT's win on Saturday may have solidified
hisPaul Johnson's job for at least one more year? Unranked over a #14 Virginia Tech team in Blacksburg is pretty big.If so, sort of hurts GT more than it helps I think.
Fuente/Foster: the long con
They can't afford to fire him, so no.
It's a relationship so abusive, I think negotiating his contract looked like this
Except Paul Johnson was beating the AD over the head with the 2014 Orange Bowl trophy.
Yeah, aren't they paying like 3 people NOT to coach basketball still?
Only 2, but Johnson's contract is fully guaranteed until 2020 (I think). I think the second one of those basketball contracts is gone, there is a good chance Johnson will be as well.
Stoops, Strong, and Helton keep their job, Brian Kelly gets fired
FTFY
Savage
Live look in at Tom Herman's house
ESPN was reporting it this morning. Then backed off saying "major donors would back if they fired him". Then he lost to KU.
Apparently he hasn't been officially fired. Will coach against TCU but it's likely he will be fired.
He basically said as much in his post game. When ask if he knows what the loss means for his future, at 1st he says "no", then he dejectedly says "yes".
Saddest post game presser I've ever seen, besides maybe the BC senior basketball player being asked, "What was your favorite part about playing BC basketball" after a winless season. BC player responded with, "Eating out".
Strong really seems like a good person, and his style just didn't gut it at Texas. I think it takes a really particular type of HC to succeed at Texas, where you're beholden as much to the players as the boosters.
Postgame clip:
Keep in mind that BC basketball player said that was his best memory during a season when the basketball team got food poisoning from Chipotle...
And I concur, that post game presser was so uncomfortable.
How about Brian Kelly? ND failed to win back to back games for the first time since 1960
Kelly will get one more year.
He will get one more year, but I could totally see him bailing for an NFL job if the right opportunity comes along this offseason.
This job should be a good fit for his football skill set.
No one mentioning PJ Fleck as a pickup. I remember TKP talked about him before Fuente, and now he is coaching one of the remaining undefeated. Would be a good pick up for some school.
He gone.
I'm sure he'll move up into P5 this year. At the very least he'll leap frog into a bigger Group of 5 Conference (perhaps a Houston opening if/when Herman leaves), but I could see a struggling P5 program maybe give him a chance
I see Fleck staying in the Midwest. I don't think he leaves that area for anything less than a P5 school that can compete for a conference championship.
It's looking like Fleck is going to stay at WMU, which automatically puts him back near the top of the "he gone" list after next season.
Fleck to ND 2018!
That would take my hatred of ND down to a strong dislike.
I think ND would be a great fit for him. Not sure they'd give a job to someone who's never been an HC at a P5 school.
Incredibly, they hired Gerry Faust directly from high school football.
Charlie Strong=good guy but just did not work out. I have no love loss for texas though.
On my phone so I can't embed it, but ESPNCFB's twitter is reporting that Charlie Strong has been fired from Texas.
Would be completely surprised if Tom Herman doesn't get the job.
DRINK!only drink if that's something you want to do on a Monday morning and not because you double posted because apparently this isn't really a double post after all. My apologies.
Drink comments piss me off, especially this one. HokieHarris mentioned an entirely different tweet than the one you referenced. Hardly worth a drink comment. Also, the one GuitarMan linked was quickly denounced by those with better sources than that.
Also:
so...source says he's fired. School denies it. Source is discredited because other "better" sources disagree. He's fired shortly after thus validating the original source.
I believe that's called a "scoop" right?
shhhhh
He's not officially fired yet lol. The bottom line is you told a guy to drink when he referenced a completely different tweet in the same thread. I just think a drink comment is unnecessary when it's all in a coaching carousel thread meant for the purpose of sharing different sources and news breaks for coaching fires. There's a ton of information out there, why limit ourselves to only posting one thing?
fair enough, will retract.
Brett McMurphy on Mike/Mike this morning said Herman has Texas as his first choice but there is some chance that aTm will fire Sumlin to try to get Herman before UT gets him. If Texas, aTm and LSU are all open at the same time, that's a lot of competition for a very similar profile coach....a similar profile to Justin Fuente.
I'm not worried about Fuente leaving after a year, that seems very counter to who he is. Maybe it's a good thing if all three open up this year and get filled for hopefully 5 more years. But these high profile jobs will be a thorn in our side every winter with Fuente looking like one of the better young coaches in the game.
My guess is that Fedora is the next in line after Herman, which would be great for us. My guesses at this point would be:
Texas: Herman
aTm: sticks with Sumlin for another year
LSU: Fedora
Baylor: Miles
Houston: Montgomery
UNC: Fleck
Purdue: Fickell
Petrino could be a possibility at LSU as well, although with LJ back for another year, it's probably wise for Petrino to stick it out for another year before jumping to the SEC again.
It could get interesting if Jimbo does fall for LSU. I'm not sure where FSU would go from there, maybe Frieze? I'm not sure Fedora is a big enough name for FSU. (FSU>LSU in my opinion, which is why I don't see Jimbo jumping unless he's bored)
Edit: SI's Pete Thamel's take on all of these jobs this morning. The line I thought was most interesting was him saying that Petrino, Holgerson, Peterson and Shaw were unrealistic for LSU. I wonder why, I could see Peterson and Shaw not wanting to leave their gigs, but Holgerson? I would think he's got one foot out the door after they publicly considering canning him last year.
so many hottakes
???
Did I do something wrong?
If Fedora leaves, everything I am hearing is that Chizik will get the promotion to HC.
I saw the SI article earlier. I think Shaw and Peterson love their spots and want to stay. Petrino I think is still working off the loyalty the Louisville is showing him after his incident, and has tons of resources and support there. They could be a playoff team since they're now in a major conference. I don't see why anyone would try to lure Holgorsen from WVU, I'm not sure he's shown that he's good enough to move up to a major P5 job from his mid-level P5 program.
I'd love to see Fleck at UNC. As far as I can tell, he's a quality coach. The rest I could take or leave. Herman should be at Texas so soon we should be checking the flight tracker. LSU should keep Ed O, but they won't because their AD is a baby. I also don't see Jimbo leaving FSU, but you never know.
I think Petrino might try to cash out after next year. He has one more year of Lamar Jackson and afterwards, the cupboard ain't exactly stocked tight. If they don't hit a major homerun in recruiting this winter, he might see the writing on the wall and bail.... again...
Petrino only has eyes for the SEC, Louisville is just his ex that keeps taking his booty calls. There has always been mutual admiration between him and Auburn, but Malzahn saved his job this year.
I'm still watching Frieze closely. With Swag Kelly graduating, it may be time to cash out and get away from Saban (even though he's the only one who can beat him). LSU doesn't make any sense for Frieze, but Texas and FSU are worth discussing at least.
I just don't understand the buzz about Fedora. Do people only see UNC's record and not watch their games?
He's good for at least one or two inexplicably called games a year that end up costing UNC a win. This year, I'd say that game-planning to try and throw the ball in hurricane conditions against us was one of them.
Agreed but when it's all said and done record is the primary factor when evaluating a coach. Fedora has benefited the last 2 years by having the right offensive skill position players, with the right amount of experience, all stay healthy, all at the same time. Every year in college football there is that team that hits that perfect storm scenario and peaks at the right time and boxes above their weight class... but it never lasts. It takes years of success to truly build a program and that takes something unique and special. Frank and Bud did it with innovative special teams play, a D Coordinator with a unique scheme who adjusted to the changes in college football better than most, and a few special players (ie. MV7).
With all of this said Fedora would be crazy not to run to LSU if they offered because I fully expect UNC to be back to the middle of the coastal pack over these next few years.
Especially after losing to a flawed, 5-6 NC State team; I have a hard time seeing his stock being high enough to be hired by LSU, et. al.
Craig Bohl will have a P5 job next year. Wyoming going from 2-10 to possibly being the MWC Champs is incredible. With his track record at NDSU before this it would be shocking if someone doesn't give him a shot next year.
McIntyre to Baylor then Bohl to Colorado? Bohl a darkhorse for Oregon?
I like Bohl a lot as well.
I wonder if Oregon is a darkhorse for Herman? I mean yes, don't get me wrong, Herman to Texas makes every bit of sense and I fully expect it to happen, but if there is someone who can compete with the pockets of Texas, its Phil Knight and Nike. Put Herman in Oregon with the full backing of Nike and their marketing and merchandising team, and that could be a very scary situation for the rest of college football.
Yeah, I think so. First, Texas ended up with Strong because they got their 4th choice last time. That program is too guided by boosters. Secondly, Texas conceivably could have something better than Herman up their sleeve (Fisher? Frieze? Dabo?) They are Texas, they have the money to buy anyone they want (almost even Saban).
And if Herman doesn't pick Texas, I could see him picking Oregon over LSU. It's a controversial pick, but LSU is: (1) saddled with Saban, (2) has the wrong personnel for Herman's offense, and (3) has a terrible AD. Herman could get Oregon to the playoffs in two seasons.
I agree about LSU. When you really look at it, I don't think it's as great of a job as people want to make it out to be. Tough expectations and a bad AD take away a lot of the positives. I wonder if Herman would WANT to go to Oregon though. He had his pick of jobs last year and chose to stand pat. He's self-aware enough to know that he is wanted and can wait out the job he wants. If it's Texas then he can use Oregon and A&M as leverage to get himself a sweetheart deal.
I wonder where Strong will end up? If Fedora gets a better or similar offer I could see him leaving. Pending sanctions and Trubisky might be gone after this year would make the time to jump soon if not now.
I think Herman stayed put last year to get two good years on his record. Sustained success is worth more on his next contract than potentially a one year wonder.
Anybody wonder if Dabo will jump if Texas, Texas A&M, or LSU came calling? He has put together some nice staffs to get him those wins. To his credit, he has reloaded the talent, and the staff after a bunch of them have moved on.
He is losing Watson, which seems to be one of the primary reasons for coaches to jump.
I tend to think Dabo stays put and hopes he's the clear replacement for Saban when the time comes. Especially if Jimbo is seriously interested in LSU, that could work out well for Dabo.
They have the #1 quarterback in the country coming in next year, Hunter Johnson...losing Watson isn't a factor
Beyond the headline, the story is well worth the read. There are apparently a lot of moving pieces right now, if #sauces are to be believed.
Lol at Mack Brown.
So.....
Herman to LSU
How on earth does LSU have the cash to outbid Texas for Tom Herman?
Oil money
May be more than money. Control, length of contract, or like he did at Houston facility and other guarantees.
I legitimately think Charlie Strong might not be out. That situation sounds an awful lot like Les Miles last year. They should have just canned him after Kansas and moved on to Herman, now they left the door open for the players to rally around him and crush TCU to save his job.
Especially is LSU secures Herman. I think if they do Texas keeps strong for another year or so. However I think they will have missed the boat and don't know who they would grab.
It's pretty interesting considering how much has been said about Herman wanting the Texas job and Texas might blow this and lose him.
If I were a coach, I'd stay away from Texas. Dealing with all the politics seems exhausting. LSU can offer a coach almost anything that Texas can, but with much less headache.
Really because LSU seems to have some major issues after end of last year and beginning of this year with donors and atheistic dept admins.
Well, except for the whole "you have to beat Bama" deal.
Depends... if you're someone like Larry Fedora and Texas comes calling, don't you at least very seriously consider it? Yes, the AD and booster situation at Texas ain't great, but its not like he's easy peasy at UNC, either. I mean, internally they expect to be competing and winning the Coastal every year, and once guys like Hood and Trubisky leave... that could be pretty tough. The basketball team has enough success there that the high dollar donors expect similar results in football, and they get restless quick. And not to mention the endless NCAA investigation hanging over that program for here to eternity.
If you're Fedora, there's a decent chance you cash out now and get your big paycheck while you can. Mack Brown is supposedly pushing Texas pretty hard to bring him in according to 99.9 here in Raleigh, so its not like there isn't interest there. Plus, now that they've completely fucked up the Herman situation, who else could they get?
Don't get me wrong, Texas isn't the worst job in football, but if I were choosing between the 5-10 highest profile coaching positions, I wouldn't pick Texas. Fedora's options are different than Herman's.
On my phone so I can't link anything, but ESPN is reporting that LSU has officially hired Orgeron as the new head coach. Herman is expected to finalize with Texas after the official announcement that Strong is out is made this weekend.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2674153-lsu-head-coach-search-latest-... I know bleacher report is not always reliable...
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/94468734/?client=ms-an...
there ya go, sorry if its not a good link. ed orgeron is staying at lsu. guess houston is heading to texas
Paul Johnson should be taken off the hot seat. With
78 wins, I don't think his seat is hot anymore.ESPN ticker just posted that Charlie Strong has been officially fired. I guess we can expect the Tom Herman announcement later tonight.
Espn just reported Herman to texas
No real surprise there. Will be interesting to see who they go after. I could see PJ Fleck being a good fit there with his quirky, unorthodox personality and being an offensive-minded coach. Wouldn't be surprised if they went after Lane Kiffin either, and also wouldn't be shocked if they called up Chip Kelly and gauged his interest in returning.
Kiffin's a good thought here. I could see it.
I still don't think San Fran is going to fire Chip Kelly - and I don't know what, if any kind of buyout he was to pull the old Jim Harbaugh. That would be laughable - an NFL franchise with 2 straight coaches to choose to relegate back to the college game.
Anyways, I was having coffee station talk with a co-worker who is a ducks grad. He is in Chip Kelly 2.0, with Kiffin as a backup plan.
I said Bohl is their best bet, less reuniting with Chip. I don't know why anybody would want anything to do with Lane Kiffin, outside of making fun of him for naming his kid Knox during his 1 historic season in Knoxville.
USC was all I needed to see from him and his master douchery.
Didn't they just hire him? At stoplight can't read article.
I know I'm not supposed to do this, but this is ridiculous.
Here's the entire article text:
That's not an article. It's a tweet. Shame on them for even having a click through to that nonsense.
This would be a shocker to me. He's done a great job.
Details emerging that this may not be about football success. I've seen reports that 5-6 Indiana players were interviewed about the way they were treated by Kevin Wilson/coaching staff.
This makes more sense. Indiana was a sneaky good team this year (best in the state), a few breaks and they could have had a huge year.
It looks like IU is promoting their DC, Tom Allen, to be their next head coach.
https://www.landof10.com/indiana/indiana-dc-tom-allen-will-become-permanent-head-coach
There is something here. Seeing tweets where he took about 500,000 to resign, leaving 5 plus million on the table.
Voice to text this, Tommy Tuberville out at Cin, his choice, resigning.
"his choice" riiiiight
I no longer think Les Miles will be the Penn State coach next year
Western Kentucky's Jeff Brohm is the new head coach at Purdue.
Awesome hire for the Boilermakers, Brohm runs a creative offense that is different enough (and not so reliant on top-notch talent) that they could actually make some waves in the Big10.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/12/5/13843632/jeff-brohm-p...
I'm not sure who is going to be willing to take the Baylor job.
This will be the best hire of this off-season outside of Tom Herman. Jeff Brohm has created the best passing offense in CFB. Pro-style concepts in a hybrid spread type look. He could make Purdue a real player in the B1G.
I love the Brohm hire, but a quick comparison to a guy who has been just as excellent, even accoumplished more, but gets less attention because it's defense: Matt Rhule.
I think Matt Rhule is another top remaining candidate. He will get a good P5 job one of these days.
Welp, now we get to look out for them a few years down the road.
does he coach the bowl game?
Matt Rhule leaving Temple to take Baylor job.
before or after bowl game? I gots to know for my bowl pool...
I think he's a great coach. Never thought Baylor would do that well.
Interesting, a defensive coach at Baylor. In the B12.
I like Rhule a lot. I don't like Baylor.
Considering Bill Cosby is essentially the father of Temple, I think he's in a unique situation to adequately handle the nuances of taking on the role of bringing Baylor out of the hellhole they're in.
Kinda bummed about this, I like Rhule a lot, and like seeing the AAC so competitive. Do not like Baylor.
Interesting, if true.
Ugh I can't wait for Fedora to jump ship and UNCheat to return to the trash bin of the ACC. Maybe if he hadn't imploded at the end of the season he would have been up for consideration.
I really don't think UNC will get the same love next year as they did this year. A lot of the ESPN analysts were pretty high on us and I think with Evans back, the narrative will be that we are the team to beat in the Coastal, hopefully giving us a rankings boost.
Pure speculation though.
I would be surprised if Pitt didn't get some recognition...they are a very good ball team. That offense is scary
As much as Narduzzi sucks - they are a really good team.
That offense put up some big numbers and I dont really see that falling off. I felt like they had a big-ish name QB somewhere on their roster after Peterman leaves but I cant find him or remember his name.
Even though Connor was a ridiculous talent, theyve loaded up on running backs the last couple of classes.
The ACC Coastal will only be getting tougher in the near future.
I attribute that offense more to Matt Canada than Narduzzi. I suspect Matt Canada to be a name we see popping up when discussing coaching searches in a few years.
so what you're trying to say is...Blame Canada?
Something like that. The hating on thread would be a lot of fun if he lands a HC job in the ACC at some point.
Oh I told everyone who would listen last year that UNC would take a decent step back next year (ie. this year) and that in 2017 they will be back to being a mediocre Coastal team at best. UNC just fell into the perfect situation with the right players all healthy and experienced all at the same time.
I just think that when Fedora leaves we might can used it as an opportunity to take command of recruiting in NC.
Sure, unless this happens. Then they'll be all we hear about.
I'm curious, could the ACC block this transfer like other conferences would despite Notre Dame not being a football member?
I think I read there are no restrictions.
I hear UNC is building a dome. Trubisky will never throw another INT
Come on, we're a school of engineers. If we can sneak onto UVA's turf and add a "T" to their "V," surely we can compromise their fire sprinkler system to go off continuously throughout the game.
FTFY
How's that for recruiting ammunition?
"Oh hey there, 5 star NC recruit. You really like the coaches at UNC? You mean the ones trying their damnedest to get out of Chapel Hill, even considering a toxic landfill like Baylor as an acceptable landing place?"
Side by side comparison time:
Oh gawd, that is funny! All the legs.
*When the weather is nice.... and we feel like it.... and nobody else is on....
and not basketball season...
How to torpedo your recruiting in one tweet.
I don't twitter, but can someone please respond to his tweet with my graphic?
I got you fam.
Well the Carolina Mafia didn't like that tweet one bit, did they?
USF's Willie Taggart has been hired as the new head coach of Oregon.
Seems like some really low key hires this year...
I'm legitimately shocked that Fleck didn't get this one
Barring some unforeseen changes, I think he winds up back at WMU next year. It'll be interesting to see if the Broncos can repeat this season's performance.
did they interview him? I saw Taggert and Harsin were interviewed, I don't remember seeing Fleck being interviewed.
Apparently Fleck really like the Midwest. I think he's waiting for a B1G or the ND jobs to open up. ND is the decent job in that part of the country that I think could be open in the next year or 2. I think Iowa and Nebraska would both be good fits, but between Ferenz's long contract and Nebraska's recent success, I don't think either of those are realistic. Maybe Iowa State or Cincy, but I'm not sure either of those are much better than his current spot.
Would be really cool if WMU beat Wiscy and continue dominating into next year.
That's a quality hire. He basically revived the last two programs he's coached and should be able to run their style of offense.
Wow so surprised it wasnt Jim McElwain or Dan Mullen - those reports really seemed to have traction and not Jimmy Sexton just throwing their names out for leverage... as if its needed but heres the /s
I think its a good hire for Oregon.
He's a very good coach
CBS Sports reporting Lincoln Riley "knocked it out of the park" in his interview for the Houston job.
Linky link
Rhule to Baylor is a weird fit. Rhule has been a good coach for Temple but his entire life history is in the northeast. Moving down to Texas is going to be a major culture shock for him. I think Baylor should have tried Chad Morris instead.
Taggart to Oregon looks like a good move. Rooting for him to succeed there.
Riley to Houston just makes a ton of sense.
Fleck should wait until a decent P5 job opens up. GT, hopefully, or Pitt.
Fleck can stay as far away from our division as possible, thanks. Otherwise yes, I hope he finds a good job. I'm a fan of his.
Came here to say this exact thing
I'm a proponent of having as many great coaches in our division as we can get. If Fleck can replace CPJ or Nads then I'm all for it. I think he's a better coach and a better person.
we might hate Nardz (and rightfully so, IM-O&M-O) but Pitt is a legitimately good team. They're not going to be an easy out for anybody and I would wager Narduzi will be there for a few years...
You're right, Pitt is actually pretty good. I think they're the only team in football that beat two major conference champions this year.
I'd agree that Nads is going to be there for a bit, but whenever Dantonio retires from Michigan State, which the locals up here think is going to happen in a year or two, the expectation is that Nads will be heading back to East Lansing a la Paul Chryst.
Word on the skreet is Morris is gonna wait until he gets the call from College Station.
So next year.
Yep, this is also the line of thought.
Makes sense. aTm would be even better for him.
Pitt looks like they could be very dangerous for years to come, don't see that opening soon. I'm rooting for Fleck to NC State personally, raise the ACC profile, engage one of the few good fanbases in the conference, but not directly compete with us every year (though I would kill to have them replace BC as our "rivals").
I think Narduzzi is going to bounce from Pitt when he gets a better P5 offer, if he's smart he'll take Matt Canada with him if he hasn't already gotten an HC job himself. Pitt doesn't have the fan support and commitment to football to be a long-term destination for a coach with big-time aspirations. They would need somebody who just absolutely loves the city of Pittsburgh and wanted to live there long-term to have tremendous longevity there.
Narduzzi seems like the type of person who would love the city of Pittsburgh.
Agree with this. Pitt isn't a good football school, and their fan support severely lacks. They made a monumental mistake in dumping Pitt Stadium and going to Heinz. NFL fields just never work well for college football.
Yep, there is a reason everyone leaves Pitt ASAP. The just lack support, fans and facilities.
Agree about NC State replacing BC as our "rivals". When looking at potential division realignment I looked at the number of times we played each of our conference teams. I was surprised we have played NC State more than anyone other than LOLUVA and have played GT and Pitt so few times:
98 - LOLUVA
49 - NC State
38 - UNC Chapel Hill
37 - Wake Forest
36 - FSU
34 - Miami
34 - Clemson
25 - Boston College
24 - Duke
18 - Syracuse
16 - Pitt
14 - GT
7 - Louisville
We do that... and you all will quickly learn why NCSU fans have the rep they do... Even living here in Raleigh, I'm ok playing them once every 8 years or so
Is there a North Carolina fanbase you won't dump on?
hmmmmmmm.....
UNC - wine and cheese cowards who are scared by a little rain. But don't worry, basketball season is right around the corner, and weepy ol' Roy will have them kids playin tough again, you'll see!
Duke - just move back to Jersey, ya damn jabronis. Except for the wonderful people of Duke Med, who do some truly world changing things on their campus. But I digress....
Wake - those overly proper yuppies from the nice part of town who think 'shucks' is a bad word. The kind of people Prohibition was created to protect.
NCSU - WVU of the ACC. Bring your hard hats should you have the misfortune of venturing close to their tailgating lots prior to a game. They have the attitude of a power with the onfield play of a pasty.
ECU - If you thought the Radford coed jokes were bad....
App St - You know how you can tell someone is an App alum? When they wear black under their UNC shirt.
UNCW - Ahh yes, the feeder university to ECU, NCSU, and UNC for those who would like a year at the beach before moving on with their lives.
Ya know, now that you mention it, I am an equal opportunity hater.
UNC - Agreed.
Duke - Didn't meet a bad Duke football fan in my trips there. Now the basketball coach, fans, players, etc...
Wake - Don't have a bad word for Wake. They are the quaint little program in the ACC.
NCSU- I heard this but didn't have a problem with their fans even after watching Tyrod and the defense crawl back from down big against Russell Wilson and winning there. First place I have ever seen fans leave during half time to go drink at their tailgate then come back into the stadium.
Edited: Need more sleep at night.
No wonder Tyrod and the defense crawled back from down big
No hate on UNCC? This is a terrible list.
We'll have an entire thread on them in 2019.
They gave my dad a degree, and they actually went through an intentional rebranding where they are now 'Charlotte' instead of UNC-C... mainly because they were giving the finger to Chapel Hill, not wanting to be associated with them.
For now, they're ok by me
So there is a team in North Carolina you won't dump on.
I just haven't had enough time to develop the hate, yet... I mean, outside of the family aspect, I know absolutely nobody who went there. Their overall irrelevance to the state as a whole makes them hard to hate. At least the other schools had something noteworthy going for them the last 20 years or so, but not Charlotte.
Actually, I have a black shirt under my plethra of Orange/Maroon Effect and "STICK IT IN! STICK IT IN! STICK IT IN" shirts
1000 times this. The disdain for all other NC Schools is strong at ASU. App is, by the way, the best football school in NC. If you want to hate on a school in WNC, go ahead and throw the shade at Western Carolina.
Some sources are saying that Houston will hire Lane Kiffin,.. however, others say school has not extended offer to anyone yet.
Is Kiffin Hired Or Not?!
I can confirm that Lane Kiffin will or will not be Houston's next head coach
I have it on good authority that Lane Kiffin may or may not be back in Tuscaloosa next season
My #Sauces are saying that Houston expects to name a new head coach by the start of the next football season.
Schrodinger's Kiffin
USF is reportedly interested in Charlie Strong.
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/usf-pursuing-charlie-strong/2305664
Good move. He's going to do well at his next stop.
was hoping he might be one of those staff advisor types at VT for a year or so
Strong to USF makes a lot of sense.
That's a Strong move. He will also come cheap since he has the Texas buyout.
Not really. Texas got what they wanted. His buyout is drastically cut if he takes another job.
Per this USA Today areticle
And apparently it's done.
"Major Applewhite"
Didn't he kill someone with a candlestick in the study?
I think he lost a leg at Antietam.
ESPN reporting FAU is pursuing Lane Kiffin to be their HC
See it here
Reports are negotiations broken down yesterday as they neared a deal. Guy must be a real Narduzzi.
Interesting, I really didn't expect him to take such a low-tier job
after his previous head coaching gigs (looking at you oakland raiders, tennessee, and USCw), did you really expect another p5 to take that chance on him?
Agreed. He needs to prove he can be a successful HC somewhere before another P5 program rolls the dice on him. I think this is a god spot for him to do that. That said, I hope he fails miserably and never gets another opportunity ever. And I hope ODU beats his ass every year
Think his wife's going to be satisfied going from the bustling metropolis known as Tuscaloosa to God's Waiting Room, Boca Raton?
What wife? She filed for divorce in the spring.
Oh really? Good for her.
He's probably worth more as an ex-husband.
I did, yes. His resurgence at Bama has been valuable. I thought he could have got a Cincy or USF type of job.
FAU? Good luck with that.
Just like there's a difference between being a TE coach or an OC there is a difference between being an OC and a HC. Somebody can be great at coaching TEs but miserable at coordinating. Similarly, someone can be a rockstar OC but a terrible HC
Hmm...I think we may know someone who fits that bill.
Ah so you were thinking bottom of the power five. I can understand that, but those are programs that are trying to turn around in a tough conference. For that to be done, they were probably looking for someone who's reputation is not as dicey as Kiffin's and would not leave at the first call from somewhere else.
I guess those are technically a "Group of 5" jobs I mentioned. I think of it as tiers:
Tier 1: Top 25 jobs, of which Tennessee and USC-w were when he was HC or Oregon/Texas/LSU this year;
Tier 2: the next best 40 or so P5 jobs...Baylor and Purdue are the only ones this year and both are arguably a peg lower than this because Baylor is run by snakes and Purdue is Purdon't.
Tier 3: Best of the G5 jobs, like Houston, USF and Temple this year;
Tier 4: FAU jobs.
I'm surprised he couldn't get a Tier 3 job, but maybe there weren't that many openings and he decided he would prefer a Tier 4 job to another year as OC at Bama or LSU. Certainly that decision about how a good coordinator position ranks in this tier system has perplexed others, like Bud Foster, in the past.
Gameday just broke that Cincinnati hired anOSU's D.C. Fickell as their new H.C.
That was out yesterday.
http://www.thekeyplay.com/comment/503626#comment-503626
Gameday likes to think they break stories
Fickell to Cincinnati wasn't a done deal until this morning. Plenty of people broke Tom Herman to LSU as well, but it's never done until it's done.
I get that but sometimes it feels like ESPN feels like a story isn't a story until they decide to report on it. Ignoring the hard work of local and national beat writers and reporters.
Florida's DC Geoff Collins will be named the HC at Temple. Hopefully Bud isn't thinking about a reunion with TG......
maybe it's homerism. Perhaps its just blind optimism. I find it highly unlikely Bud leaves Blacksburg for anything other than a HC gig
Agreed. Lateral move, and the rumors when TG left were that he and Bud had been feuding. Not sure if those were accurate, but based on a lot of statements that have been made, when there's smoke...
I feel like if he was going to leave for another DC job then he would have left with Beamer. I think we would have to make the playoff for Bud to be considered for a P5 HC job.
And not just a P5 job, but a quality P5 job. He's not going to leave the situation he has now to be the head coach of a scrub program like Kansas, Iowa State, Virginia, or Indiana. If he goes, he'll want a job like UNC, Tennessee, Nebraska, Georgia Tech, or another program at that level, but the problem is that none of those places are going to consider someone without HC experience.
At this point, he's a VT lifer.
I agree with everything you said, and I don't think it would ever happen, but if Indiana for example comes at him with crazy money maybe he would take it. Maybe I am just too much of a fan, but I feel like Bud's been at Tech too long for any amount of money to make him coach lolUVA.
TG is more likely to get that DC gig than bud.
I hope TG gets a shot at the UF DC position. I'd be interested to see what a TG defense looks like.
all the defenders running away from the quarterback and not looking at him...?
/s
And faceguarding their men.
From what i understand, Randy Shannon will take over as the DC.
Yes, that Randy Shannon.
Oh no way. That's awesome. I like Randy Shannon
Randy was a nice guy and a good DC. Just not a good HC. Glad for him.
Me too. Great guy, sucks that things didn't pan out for him at Miami...loved what he did academically though.
Matt Canada just left Pitt to be the new OC at LSU.
"BLAME CANADA"
This is great news, and a good hire for Coach O. Matt Canada is a good coordinator. Fuck Pat Narduzzi, hopefully his offense is shit, he has bad defensive backs and his defense is just as porous in 2017. Hopefully they go 4-8 and fire that asshole.
No Peterman, no Connors, no Canada next season.
That offense had season lows of 28 points in week1 vs Nova and then 28 in a road loss to Miami. Nardouchies defense was not good - they were 8-4 because they could score, alot.
Oregon just picked up the defensive coordinator from Colorado.
Oregon looking to be really good fairly shortly.
Yeah Jim Leavitt. Used to be USF's coach for a long time. Lots of defensive coaching positions. Taggart appears to be a good call so far.
Sarkisian is official as Alabama OC
Yeah, i imagine nobody was surprised by this move.
Alabama...where coaches go for redemption.
I bet Saban could stand up Bear Bryant, weekend-at-bernie's-style, and be considered a genius
Nah, bama fans would never fall for it. They all know when Bear comes back it will be with angelic fanfare as he descends from the clouds...
I think it's pretty cool what Saban does by bringing in struggling coaches. I'm interested to see how Kiffin does moving forward. I won't be rooting for him to succeed or fail, but I'll be watching.
I don't know if he is interested but I remember when Alabama tried to hire Jeff Fisher away from Tennessee. They couldn't and ended up with Sabah. Now that he is unemployed I would t be surprised if he was a top target.
I always liked him at Tennessee, a straight shooting smash mouth football guy. Didn't follow him much as a rams coach.
UConn fired Bob Diaco today after his 3-9 season. He did beat UVA this year, so that's something he can put on his resume.
That would be the equivalent of me putting "successfully parked my car in the parking lot every morning" on my resume.
Move to Maryland. With a resume like that, you'll be made upper management somewhere.
Sometimes I'm not even sure beating them 13 is worth putting on out resume...
UConn re-hired Randy Edsall.
I'd be curious to know how many coaches have struck out at a higher level and were accepted back by their former employers. Obviously Petrino comes to mind off the top of my head, but I don't know of others straight away.
Other example I can think of is Mike Riley. 2 years at Oregon State, 3 years as HC of the Chargers, 1 year as a DB coach at New Orleans after being sacked by the Chargers, then 12 more years at Oregon State, before going to Nebraska.
Minnesota just fired Tracy Claeys
Sounds like they are going after PJ Fleck
Ehh it's a bad fit. Boats don't row well on ice.
Minnesota is the Land of 10,000 Lakes. Sounds like a fit. If the lakes are frozen, I'm sure the Golden Gophers would be willing to put blades on the boat to make it a bobsled.
Now I've made this obligatory:
I don't think Minnesota is much of an upgrade. Sure it's in a P5 conference but your not winning the B1G at Minnesota.
Everytime I hear PJ Fleck's name this pops into my head:
Okay, I'll bite. What the hell is this?
I really don't need to know. I am afraid somebody might know the answer.
I know way more about PJ Masks, Disney princesses, Daniel Tiger, and the like than I ever thought I would. ,That being said, my son is getting into Star Wars so I'm moving up in the world!
Um you don't know about the nightly crime fighting trio that is PJ Mask?
Nerd you need to have some damn kids.
I just turned 25 two weeks ago...
at that age I would have thought you were a regular viewer of that show! Youngin'!
haha...I'm like, 28
Luna Girl, Night Ninja and Romeo have no chance versus our nightly crime fighters.
Y'all need to learn about Sarah and Duck
No surprise in either of those statements
Texas just relieved Ohio State of Tim Beck, saves them the trouble of canning him.
Now this is interesting.
Bizarre, I'm a little worried if I'm a Texas fan. Also weird because Beck is who replaced Herman and torpedoed Ohio State's offense. Also, fun tidbit from hookem.com article, when Meyer was asked how Beck was doing with the quarterbacks after replacing Herman he said this,
He will do what Herman tells him to do.
Fleck to Minnesota seems certain:
Also interesting:
That's weird if true, after next year he could be at a decent P5 school.
Minnesota has a decent roster. I can see him doing big things there in a weak division. Kinda like Fuente this year.
Except that the Coastal was anything but a weak division when five of seven teams went bowling.
It was still pretty weak compared to the Atlantic just like the B1G West compared to East. What I'm saying is, there's an easier path in that division than most others.
I would argue that perception. The Atlantic had three good teams and a bunch of fair to below average teams. The average strength of the Coastal was greater than the Atlantic.
Yes, but because of that parity the path is easier to get through the Coastal to the ACCCG. It's a little counterintuitive but think of it this way. If you're in the Atlantic, you've got to win at least one or two games among Clemson, FSU, and Louisville. That's a hell of a mountain to climb, hence the disparity among the Atlantic teams. In the Coastal, it's not so much a mountain as it is a hill. You have to get through VT, Pitt, Miami, UNC at least but with the fact that these teams are "good" and not "elite" (at the moment), there's a good chance that each will do enough damage to the other that a couple losses isn't fatal, and/or you can win a tiebreaker.
That's a good way to look at it. Each of VT, Pitt, Miami, UNC have a fatal flaw. Clemson and FSU are much harder to find a fatal flaw. VT, run the QB and park the bus in the second half. Pitt: throw on their secondary and say something to Narduzzi about his Mom. Miami, pressure Kaaya like crazy. UNC, buy a hurricane.
Minnesota has potential. Decent fanbase, weak division, inside Fleck's ideal recruiting grounds. He could do some damage there.
Minnesota catch phrase forecast:
"Mine the Fields"
"Zamboni the pond"
Randy Shannon has been promoted to DC at Florida.
Pretty sure i mentioned this might happen a few weeks back
In his defense, from what I remember he was actually a good DC. Just a lousy HC.
Yeah, he's a great DC, and Florida's had continued success with him on their defensive staff.
Overall, Florida fans are pretty happy with the move. There was suspicion that he would be the guy moving forward.
Mike London is moving on from Maryland.
Good fit, he have anyone on the hook at MD Tech may want now?
I keed I keed
Apparently the folks at Howard think he's racist, or at least saying things he shouldn't.
http://www.hbcugameday.com/2017/01/mike-london-howard-fashion-cop-respec...
I feel like after the downvotes I should explain the good fit comment. It's smaller school where he can focus on being the teacher and leader he clearly is good at.
Crazy that people down voted you for it, i didn't take your comment as offensive in any way because i knew what you meant.
Anyway, i agree with your statement.
ALSO, he definitely won't interfere with our recruiting anymore. Which is great.
also he's black. *ducks*
Howard gets its first top in state recruit under him.
Howard just snagged Cam Newton's little brother.
Two little brothers in the same day, London was the MSU to our Michigan.
I guess Les is sitting this year out, which - to me- is really really surprising given how he was fired pretty early in the season. Maybe Kelly bombs this year and Les gets ahold of Notre Dame.
Apparently he had some awful interviews. Houston in particular went very poorly, has no concept of all the advantages he had with LSUs resources
Bad time to be Les Miles. Can't reach expectations at a school with massive resources means any high major with far less takes a pass since he does not have a 'do more with less' track record. Betting he ends up at a Western Mich/ low-mid directional U situation.
Oh, um..Wake just hired Arkansas' DC
That's...an interesting move?
That is an odd late firing.
Chip. Kelly. Otherwise that doesn't make much sense. Outside of the program looking in, he seemed like a good coach and a good fit.
Yep, first thing i thought of when i heard they'd let their coach go. No way they can/axe somebody this late without a good backup in the works.
Perhaps you have forgotten that Weaver did exactly that with his firing of Seth Greenberg.
But yeah, they are probably going after Chip.
Weaver, God bless his soul, was no Whit either.
I was thinking two days ago that Kelly, being in the SF area now, should try to jump back to college and Cal was the option (since Stanford already has Shaw). I didn't think Dykes would be fired this year but if they can snag Chip then the PAC12 North becomes a minefield.
So I guess I was wrong about Chip Kelly.
They went with Justin Wilcox, no idea if that's a good hire or not...
First time Head Coach Justin Wilcox hired at Cal
Who?
Dude has an interesting track record as a defensive coordinator. He hasn't been anywhere for a long time.
To TLDR his wiki page..
He was Petersen's DC at Boise for a few years during their historic run. Then he jumped to Tennessee under Dooley, who didn't last long. Then to Washington under Sark, and following him onto USC. Helton dumped him at USC and he moved to Wisconsin in 2016 under Gary Andersen before finally getting an HC gig this year.