I was looking at a comparison of Jerod Evans and Mitch Trubisky and realized that Evans might be better. If you look here, the first thing you'll see is ESPN's comparison. Evans has thrown for only half the passing yards but has the same amount of touchdown passes. Also, the one pick Evans has thrown this year wasn't even his fault. I wonder what his stats would look like if he played the 4th quarters. I know he played the whole game against Tennessee but I want to see how he plays with the offense clicking like it is right now. Obviously in a ranked match-up, QB1 will get the chance to go a complete game and Im very excited to see him go toe to toe with one of the better quarterbacks in the conference. Saturday should be interesting...
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Really? I'm kinda hoping we see our second stringers by the 3rd quarter again and maybe even see Jack Click under center in garbage time.
At some point, people will have to look at minutes played and extrapolate. Yes, Trubisky has some great stats, but would a team with a functioning defense even need their starting QB in the game the entire game?
Also, I'm hoping to see Mitch's INT count go up infinitely this weekend.
Here's to Mitch returning to his old ways and throwing a pick 6 to fayscon...you know since all the fullers are gone.
As someone named Mitch, Id rather not return to my old ways. Trubisky can though. That's fine.
Ditto.
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To those who post in the wrong place, take the opportunity to come up with something interesting to stimulate discussion or post a fun GIF to rake in the turkey legs for making us laugh.
/meta
I guess there is no way to just have the votes stick even if deleted? I swear sometimes a thread gets so detailed and the comments get so smushed against the side of the screen a deleted would be handy.
That's when I just collapse the thread and move on. Love me some collapse thread feature.
^ This. Removing comments because they're hard to read or otherwise not aesthetically pleasing is more disruptive than anything else. It removes context and introduces discontinuities. I see no reason to do it. If you're uninterested, collapse and move on. If you're involved in the conversation, there are a few times I've seen people just re-start the discussion in a new comment to be more legible.
Deleting and retaining votes would have to be coded up, again a reason why it's really hard for Joe to maintain his full-time job, run the back end of the editorial business, and try to be the TKP software engineer. Features require $, everybody, so that TKP Club needs some more love.
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This should honestly be posted somewhere conspicuous. Most of us know what each of those things do, because we were here when they were introduced. But they aren't intuitive, and this site is about to see an influx of new members as Fuente returns the program to national prominence and the jaded/bandwagon fans return to the discussion. There should be a "Guide to the Comments Section" somewhere.
Add it to the New User FAQ that was resurrected last week
Assuming everyone checks the Community Guidelines page...Ok I guess I should just stop there.
ANYWAY, that could be a good place to put an explanation.
Good god, my life has changed!!!!
In the three years I've been here I never knew that!
Thanks a lot, seriously, already made my day!
I just have been using the N button to jump to new comments. Learn something new each day.
Finally went ahead and signed up. I figure I'm getting paid by someone else to look at TKP all day anyway. Might as well give a little back to those who get me through the workday
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Personally, I'd like to see him pulled again in the fourth quarter for Motley or Click.
EDIT: hokie07ME beat me to it.
I'm kinda hoping Trubisky get's yanked in the 4th...after tossing his 6th straight interception
Evans didn't finish the Tennessee game. Motley got some time in the 4th quarter. But it was the only game he's started the 4th quarter.I'm wrong. Brain fart.
I'm kinda hoping Lawson gets some playing time so he doesn't transfer
I am so done with the Lawson jokes...
You keep talking like that and Lawson will be done with us...
I'm keeping my eyes on you
Don't worry, all the Lawson jokes will end after Drew Harris enrolls.
And when Logan Thomas...oh, forget it.
It's kind of like when the Cincinatti zoo decided they were done with the Harambe jokes
Speaking of which, as mentioned above, I really hope we're beating UNC so badly that Jack Click gets some more time at QB - #ClicksOutForHarambe.
i chuckled audibly
In Soviet Russia, you do not get done with Lawson jokes, Lawson jokes get done with you.
To be honest, I'd be ok if Evans never sees a snap in the 4th quarter again this season.
And remains totally healthy .... let's not jinx ourselves here.
I think that was implied.
When it comes to a jinx, nothing is "implied"
I'd like to see our running game control the game..... slow, methodical drives, a few dump out / screen passes for 1st downs... eliminate how many times Trubisky gets the ball, and when he does, feel the D Line pressure, make a few wet/slippery mistakes.
If anyone remembers VT vs Miami in the rain circa 2009.... lots of wet ball mistakes for Miami + T-Mobile = blowout win
Can leave out Ryan MF Williams.
All that Jacory Harris talk. I didn't mind the rain at all that day.
Personally, I'd like to see him pulled again in the fourth quarter for Motley or Click.
FTFY.
Is there an echo in here?
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Personally, I'd like to see him pulled again in the fourth quarter for Motley or Click.
/s
Personally, I'd like to see him pulled again in the fourth quarter for Motley or Click.
Ah, the lovely Heather Locklear before fame.
Interesting to take into account him being pulled for the 4th Q
so often. Should be an interesting matchup between him and Trubisky.
How badass would it be to throw in the second string in the 4th quarter with a 42-14 lead or something like that over #17 in the country. That'd be a statement.
FWIW: When UNC faced a slightly above mediocre Georgia defense, Mitch Trubisky posted these numbers:
- 24/40 (60%)
- 156 yds
- 0 tds
- 0 ints
- 39.5 qb rating
That's what i've been thinking. FSU and UGA are definitely good teams, and not slouches by any means, but their Defenses have been pretty 'meh'. Not saying that Tech is super elite, but I tend to think that we have a history of being very good to elite (depending on the year) and this year looks to be trending towards an elite D.
So far this season (According to Football Outsiders):
TEAM / TOTAL DEFENSE S&P and RANK / RUSH DEFENSE S&P and RANK / PASS DEFENSE S&P and RANK
VT / 14.6 - 7 / 116.3 - 27 / 185.9 - 2
UGA / 24.7 - 32 / 100.9 - 68 / 105.2 - 56
FSU / 31.7 - 79 / 101.2 - 65 / 106.7 - 52
UNC / 34.6 - 101 / 91.1 - 100 / 96.5 - 82
(sorry, I have no idea how to make a fancy table.)
UGA may be the best overall defense that UNC has faced thus far, and they were able to hold Trubisky to less than stellar performance. I think it'll still be a close game either way, but barring any crazy stuff (like 5 fumbles) or just horrible busted defensive coverage on every play, I think VT's defense may be the difference here and we may be able to squeak out a W.
EDIT:
Also for what it's worth:
ECU's defense is slightly better than UNC as far as S&P+ ratings are concerned (83rd overall to 101, 96 Rush D to 100, and 90 pass D to 82). Boston College is still 'elite' by way of these ratings (8 overall, 5 Rush D, 7 pass D).
So, the FSU D is almost as bad as the terrible UNC D...
Lets not read too much into his first collegiate start, and the first time he really got to get into the game against the opponent's first string.
The game is slowing down a bit for him, and that's why his numbers are improving. He's a good player.
Do you mean the starts he had in 2014 or 2015?
Evans has 103 of 119 (86%) of VT's passing attempts. This right in line with him playing 2 full games and 3/4 each of 2 more games. (87.5% playing time)
Trubby has 175 of 182 (96%) of NC's passing attempts. Not sure if he has sat out any portion of any games, but it approximates him sitting half of a Q4 in one game, and playing 3 full games. (97% playing time).
87.5 / 97 is a .90 ratio, so Trubby has played about 10% more than Evans.
Extrapolating Evans' numbers to match Trubby's playing time, we get 1075 yards passing, 231 yards rushing, 14 TD passing, 1 TD rushing
vs Trubby's 1711 yards passing, 56 yards rushing, 13 TD passing, 4 TD rushing
Trubby still has a big edge in yardage, but a lot of that comes from the run-pass balance of the two teams. VT is 39% pass play while NC is 56% pass play. The remainder comes from slightly higher YPA for Trubby (9.78 vs 9.42)
Since UNC has played 5 games to VT's 4, your end results are a bit skewed. You'd have to take Evan's averages and add on another game's worth of yards and TDs to Evan's stats.
EDIT: because I wanted to know what the additional game for Evans would do in comparing stats:
Evans:
Passing Yds = 1075 + 269 = 1344 (Trubisky 1711)
Rushing Yds = 231 + 58 = 289 (56)
Pass TDs = 14 + 3.5 = 17.5 (13)
Rush TDs = 1 + .25 = 1.25 (4)
Ironically, Evans has more rushing yards but less rushing TDs, while Trubisky has more passing yards but less passing TDs.
Your are correct, forgot to adjust to a per-game stat. the perils of TKP'ing between meetings. Totaled up yardage this time too, and they come out even closer.
Evans, adjusted, per game:
passing: 269 yards , 3.5 TD .25 INT
rushing: 58 yards, .25 TD
total: 327 yards, 3.75 TD, .25 INT
Trubby per game:
passing: 342 yards, 2.6 TD, 0.0 INT
rushing: 11 yards, .80 TD
total: 353 yards, 3.4 TD, 0.0 INT
You managed to post this, while I was editing mine. Now we have per game stats and 5 game projection stats.
Have a leg
this leg's for you!
Almost.
Well, it took over 55 minutes until Motley came in...
Nice win Hokies, well done!
You were correct about Evans being better, at least.
Still loving that Evans had more offense than unc.
The OP lied to us.
I was told to expect to see Evans for a whole game.
Get the torches and pitchforks.
He played well considering the conditions. Those extra yards he would grind out
on broken plays really made a difference.
I thought you all would like to see this, but it doesn't deserve it's own thread.
Well, yes, Evans is 4. His jersey tells us every week.