
I've never been a fan of moral victories. Traditionally, I consider myself more Ricky Bobby than Pleasantville. "Aw shucks" and a shoulder shrug always felt like a sign of weakness, as though they were just happy to be there.
But after watching the Hokies battle back from a 21-point deficit to utterly scare the pants off the Clemson Tigers, it was hard not to feel overcome by the positive emotions in spite of the dour finish.
Forget about the fact that Tech lost and reflect on how far this team has come in twelve months time. The retirement of a legend and the subsequent staff turnover, a murky quarterback situation, poor depth at various positions...the list goes on and on. Pre-season expectations reflected the unknowns in Blacksburg, and despite all of that the Hokies found a way to win the ACC Coastal.
For all intents and purposes, the Hokies shouldn't have been in Orlando and they definitely shouldn't have been within 23 yards of a game tying (or winning) score against the defending national runners-up.
The Virginia Tech program has been mired in a constant state of mediocrity since that fateful loss to Michigan in the 2011 Sugar Bowl (Obligatory, "It was a catch!"). The senior class never really knew how to be the aggressor, having spent the entirety of their careers wallowing between big wins and epic blunders. Middling performances led to a breach in the Hokies' recruiting firewall, making it harder and harder to quickly infuse elite local talent. And with that came uncertainty surrounding the inevitable retirement of legendary Head Coach Frank Beamer, causing unneeded distractions, negative recruiting and an extraordinary feeling of instability in a program lauded for its tranquility.
And yet, Justin Fuente's Hokies were that close to a stunning return to the top of the ACC mountain.
In recent years, Clemson (along with Florida State) has been the class of the conference. They have won ten games or more for six straight seasons and have consistently recruited at an elite level. Their offensive and defensive systems strike fear in their opponents, forcing many to play the Tigers' game rather than their own. That fact was quite apparent on Saturday night.
After jumping out to a quick 14-0 lead in effortless fashion, the Tigers looked ready to throw a knockout punch late in the first quarter after forcing a second consecutive Hokies punt. Unable to get anything going offensively, Fuente embraced the role of David and dipped into Rick Moranis' bag of tricks from Little Giants. He called a fake punt pass that moved the sticks and followed it up immediately with a halfback pass that resulted in a defensive pass interference call.
Neither play was executed perfectly, but both had a monumental effect: It was Cole Trickle slamming into Russ Wheeler's bumper during the final laps at Daytona, an abrupt reminder that the Hokies would not go quietly into the night. Suddenly, the Hokies had some mojo.
"Everything we did out there was challenging when you're playing a team like that," remarked Fuente. "Making a first down is hard. Getting a stop is hard. Executing a kickoff return or a kickoff is difficult when you're playing one of the best teams in all of America. You have to understand going in that they're going to make some plays and you're going to have to find a way to make some. You're going to have to find a way to steal a possession or prolong a drive somehow to give yourself a chance to win the ballgame."
After going into halftime with some confidence, the Hokies once again struggled to settle in against the talented Tigers defense. Tech went three-and-out on their opening drive of the third quarter, and followed that up by squandering an Andrew Motuapuaka interception in Clemson territory.
With the Hokies' momentum stifled, the Tigers pounced. Clinical drives by the Clemson offense extended their lead to 35-14 with 4:45 remaining in the third quarter. In the blink of an eye, the Tigers had returned to the dominant form that put them up early. Leading by three scores, their devastating efficiency on offense was particularly demoralizing, as the Tech offense had struggled all night to execute their game plan against Brent Venables' talented Clemson defense.
With close to 20 minutes remaining, it felt like the Hokies were on the brink. Facing 3rd and 9 from the Tech 26, Clemson rushed zero and gave Evans plenty of time to find Bucky Hodges for a 42-yard reception. It was an inexplicable display of arrogance from Venables, who appeared convinced the Hokies would run a QB draw or screen to pick up the first down.
Similar to the fake punt pass earlier in the game, one play was all the Hokies needed to snap out of their offensive malaise. They were suddenly assertive on offense, finding ways to move the sticks on the ground and through the air. More importantly, Jerod Evans had the same look in his eyes as he did in the second half in South Bend.
Thinking back through this season, the attitude that Evans displayed was one of the more memorable traits that made the Hokies so enjoyable this fall. We have talked about their swagger all year long, but Evans' steely-eyed focus was something different. On TV, it felt like an opponent's canary in the coal mine. When that (now) trademark Evans stare comes out as he briskly marches up and down the sideline after a statement drive, opponents might as well run for the hills. He was ready to put his team on his back and will them to a win, and that confidence infected his teammates.
Things didn't work out for the Hokies in the end. The uber-talented Clemson Tigers ultimately held on to win, clinching their second consecutive ACC title and a spot in the College Football Playoff. Losing always stings, especially when victory was so close, but there was a big silver lining in Orlando: This program learned a lot about itself and where they're headed.
As painful as it is to say this, much of what Dabo Swinney has built at Clemson is what Virginia Tech should aspire to be. I don't mean this literally, of course — the Hokies shouldn't strive to become Clemson, but they also shouldn't shy away from emulating certain traits.
The elites in college football all have two things in common: They consistently recruit at a high level and they have an established culture greater than any one player.
Love it or hate it, talent matters. For years the Hokies have failed to sign elite talent, a reality exacerbated by the number of in-state players once destined for Blacksburg. That disparity was never more evident than on Saturday night. Culture, attitude and system can sometimes only get you so far.
Here's the good news: Even in losing, the Hokies were an impressive team and earned a lot of respect. People understand that Tech's program isn't at Clemson's level, and yet the Hokies pushed the Tigers to the limit with a lot on the line. Performances like that inspire others. They capture the imagination of high schoolers everywhere, especially when you play an exciting brand of football.
Elite talent will come. And if past history has anything to teach us, it is that Tech's staff will find ways to identify and develop less heralded recruits and pair them with blue chippers to augment already dangerous systems. As I noted after the Hokies' win in South Bend, "it isn't about accumulating potential. The challenge is fitting that talent together to create a formidable collective and utilizing a system that puts those players in the best position to succeed. It's about development and mentoring. To take it a step further, intangibles matter; resilience, heart, determination and intestinal fortitude don't show up in star rankings."
To me, what's more significant is the culture that the staff was able to build in such a short time. Even in a losing effort, Saturday's performance was a testament to that.
When asked to reflect on his team's growth over the past year, Fuente noted:
"I told them the reason that this hurt so bad was because they sold out for the cause. They poured their heart and soul into it. We needed to do that in order to win the game, and we came up short. There is nothing that I can tell them that will make them feel better because they did do that. That's why it's disappointing, but I'm awfully proud to be able to sit in front of you all and tell you that I'm their coach. I'm proud of the way they played. I'm proud of the way they competed. I'm proud of the way that we handled the ups and downs of the game, the emotions, and we have come a million miles since we started and we still have one more opportunity to play."
People respect what the Virginia Tech program has accomplished; but more importantly, people respect where the program is headed. Like Fuente, I am extremely proud of what this year's team has been able to accomplish and I am extremely excited to see what's next.

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Could not be prouder of the Hokies and to be a Hokie. We are lucky people.
VT gained a lot of respect as indicated in the polls. A great springboard for next year and the years to come.
This was great! Sad about the loss, but extremely excited to see what the future holds.
Yes. I definitely felt as we kept getting within one score, we were able to win. I believe if we get more talent on the OL, DL (and to an extent, the secondary, by which I mean a Fuller cupboard of DBs), we should be back as a regular top 10 program.
We played with a lot of heart, and never gave up to a team with Rob of talent. To emulate what Clemson has built is not a bad thing, (they are definitely NOT LOLUVA in so many ways).
CJF is moving us quickly towards acquiring those top talents we need. THANK YOU CJF!!! And Bud, 'keep it up', we will be back in the top tier very soon. Go Hokies.
Great dig at LOLUVA
Oh, hi swag!
Great write up. Thanks! I'm very excited for the future. I really hope Josh learns that attitude and leadership from Jerod and pairs it with his hopefully elite talent. That could be an exciting combination starting in '18. Nice to know we have decent talent at QB next few years. Hopefully we restock the cupboard of weapons around them.
I was on the VT goal line in the Clemson section next to their band. Let me tell you those fans were terrified on our final drive. Some were sitting with their heads in their hands and genuinely thought they were about to lose. I've never been more proud to be a Hokie standing all alone in an enemy section losing my voice!
They know we're coming and their reign is due to be short lived. Bring on the rematch '17.
That was shown on t.v too. A lot of faces in hands and a few surrender cobras from the Clemson faithful.
I was in the other end zone, right about where Slye's xps kept ending up. The drunk Clemson fans that kept spilling their beers were all very quiet there at the end too. Also, every time Joey booted a KO through the endzone, they kept asking, "Who the hell is this guy?" Of course, they also had no clue who Bruce Smith was either...smh
I was really looking forward to this slept on it and it didn't disappoint. Speaking of respect, i was perusing an Arkansas blog last night, and the Hokies make them very nervous. Many of them were referencing how close we played Clemson. You can't deny just how huge getting to the ACCCG and then playing Clemson tough as nails was for our national perception
I don't know about moral victories (god knows our empty trophy case has enough of those), but I am glad we screwed over all betters by beating the spread.
not all betters :)
Bettors are not your betters.
So after being picked 4th (or 5th) in the division, and all the talk about our "easy" schedule, is it clear now that VT was the best and most deserving team to represent the Coastal? I don't think the Tigers would let Pitt get them twice. Kaaya would be on his back too often to score points. UNC...more holes on defense. GT...they'll get their points & yards, but not fast enough to outpace Clemson.
What about a L'ville or FSU rematch? NC State? Is Dabo sweating with 2 mins to go playing one of those teams?
Now we embark on another first, Bowl Prep without a Beamer. How will CJF handle practices? Does the team see this as a reward, or another chance to play football and get 10 wins? This is where Belk is a benefit...a chance to get that W in front of the home crowd with few(er) distractions.
Excellent write up ! It's been one hell of a ride this year . Proud of how hard this team fought Saturday ..::the one area that's always been a concern for the Hokies is o line, recruiting needs to get better in that area for sure and next year should be interesting in that area since we are losing half the line....time to start keeping key recruits from leaving the state...come on hunter !
Fuente/Evans made all the difference in the world this season. It was the keystone of our offense. With all the talk of Fuente (and his well deserved ACC CoY award), I want to go back to a few other people:
Foster: This doesn't happen without Foster. This continuity and defensive performance allowed our offense time to gel. It gave them that "first quarter" to settle down. It was a crutch, and we needed that crutch. We may not need it next season, but we did this season (and hopefully it becomes a springboard)
Beamer/Loeffler/etc: The cupboard was NOT bare. Very little of this roster was the work of Fuente recruiting. We haven't recruited at an elite level the past few years, but we had weapons. We had weapons with good technique, and some grit left. This season's success doesn't happen without the hard work of Fuente and his staff's predecessors
GO HOKIES
Well said! Loeffler got us some good recruits at skills positions on offense , but we also lack depth ...with Fuente now hopefully we can have depth at skills positions and develop an offensive line
Lefty left our offense in a better place than he found it. I'm appreciative of that.
Here here. If nothing else, we have next year's QB #2 and potential QB of the future 100% because of him.
Agree and agree
And as frustrating it was having Loeffler and Co. run and execute the offense during those 3 years, it was undeniable that some of our skill positions improved. I had always hoped things would "click" and we would go bananas on offense. The cupboard was never bare. We just needed to stock it with more premium atheletes. For that, we are appreciative of Lefty's work. It all works out in the end.
Just to echo what you have stated. Yes, we haven't recruited at an elite level in terms of talent, but I believe the players who played under Coach Beamer (especially the upperclassmen) had been instilled with enough character to make this transition as successful as it has been this season. Most programs don't experience the type of success in the first season as we enjoyed this year and a large part of that is due to the leadership of Coach Beamer and the morals/values he was able to impart to the players during his time as their coach.
Yes... I can see myself getting behind this theory.
Among the "etc." let's not forget Whit Babcock. Handling the transition from a legend to the next man up, as great as he may be, is a Herculean challenge. I think we all agree that Whit did the job about as well as it could possibly be done.
Great write up. Echoes a lot of what I felt after the game.
Also a Days of Thunder reference!
via GIPHY
While the loss was disappointing, I did not come away from this feeling like I typically do after a loss. We just showed that despite a lackluster start, we've got the heart, and talent to hang with one of the best in the country. Let's go lay the smack down on Arkansas and get ready to make some noise next year!
Great write up!
BTW, I loved this quote:
Beautiful way to paint the picture for us!
Let's just whip their ass in Blacksburg next season, please.
HATE WEEEEEEEEE... -oh sorry. too soon?
^^^^^^^^^^^^
yep. We have a good friend who bleeds Clemson orange, and she is way too smug.
What a game that was. Memorable effort, comeback, etc. Seeing them fight
back over and over was something else. Made me proud to be a Hokie.
Gonna be lit in Blacksburg for the rematch.
I think it is going to be a VERY different game in the burg. They are losing some key personal. They have recruited well and have good depth but there will be a definite drop next year.
No way they win Saturday without Watson dropping dimes while under pressure. I feel good about next year.
They will only retain Deon Cain, Hunter Renfrow, and 4 OL next year on offense. Everyone else is gone. They are extremely deep at WR talent-wise, but they don't know who the next QB will be yet.
Excellent. Should be a lot of fun.
Bad news, everyone on their DL returns except Carlos Watkins.
Does this game and outcome make some of the underclassmen that are considering leaving stay in Blacksburg for another year?
If revenge and risking losing millions of dollars to preventable injury is worth it to them, then yes.
Don't get your hopes up. If someone comes back that is great, but don't be expectant.
I obviously don't know the minds of any of the players considering leaving for the draft. I think I've made my stances on leaving early pretty clear in other threads so I can really only state my personal opinion. But if I'm Fuente, I think trying to convince these guys to stay is at least worth lip service and if so I think the best pitch I can make to these guys is this: This was the first year with this system. Everyone on the team was inexperienced in it, everyone on the team has room to grow and improve. And even with their inexperience, even factored with how thin we are at some key positions, we were within one touchdown of being ACC Champs. If we can do that in our very first year, what can we do in our second? This season has been pretty special for a lot of reasons; first new head coach in damn near three decades, first trip to South Bend, biggest college football game in history. How special could the next one be?
Is that enough motivation for these guys to stay? I don't know. That's a deeply personal choice that every one of them is going to have to make for themselves and far be it from me to hold it against them if they opt to leave.
Coaches do not encourage players to come back if they are predicted as high-round selections.
You are looking at it like a fan and what's best for VT. The coaches and players (rightfully) look at it as what is best for you and your family. The answer is almost always go get that check. Worst case scenario you blow your knee out in preseason camp and never play a down, you go back to school get that degree with a nice little nest egg.
100% dead on ! People keep saying Buckey needs to stay and there is just no way he does he wanted to leave last year. He has more to lose than to gain by staying another year from a financial stand point . I see Ford leaving too his stock is high if he decided to stay it be purely because he is a die hard HOKIE and wants to win the ACC next year and not because the coaches convinced him to stay
Bucky, being a redshirt Junior, likely will already have one degree if he goes pro after this season.
Love me some Bucky, but he will struggle if he goes pro now. He has far too many issues with his play to be competitive at this point. Now there is no one that will convince him that staying another year will be the answer and turn him in to an all pro, so yes, he's gone.
But if he is drafted in the second or third round and spends a year or two developing in the League, that's a better option for him than returning to school, isn't it? Balancing the risk of career-ending injury (or just plain ole regression) against the likelihood that another year of college will improve his draft stock dramatically, I think the coaches are right to advise him to take the money. Of course, if the NFL says he is unlikely to go in the first three rounds, the whole calculation is different.
I agree. Most of our players came to Tech in an effort to further their career in football with the ultimate goal of playing in the NFL. They work extremely hard at getting better at football. It's their primary focus. Most won't make it but those that have a chance should be backed 100% in their decision.
Because that's what I am.
But, check out what I said:
Not saying Fuente needs to bring in every player and keep them in his office for 5 hours trying to convince them to stay. I wholeheartedly agree that he (and they) should have their best interests at heart and I myself have said that a player projected to go high in the draft should go (although I usually disagree about how high that projection needs to be). But I do think that there needs to be a conversation between him and each individual if only to gauge their feelings. Part of that discussion, I think, should be a simple "We'd love to have you back, I think we could be really special next year" capped off with a "love ya, fam."
These guys have already seen what they've accomplished this year. I know each and every one of them sees the potential for next year. Again, Fuente doesn't need some 20 page prepared speech with an itemized list of every reason he can think of for staying complete with 8 x 12 color glossy pictures with pictures and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what it is. But a simple "hey, it's your decision, we love you and would love to have you?" I don't think that crosses some moral line regarding having their best interests at heart.
I always liked John Calipari's quote on this: "If (player) wants to do what's best for his family, he'll go pro. If he wants to do what's best for my family, he'll stay"
Fuente's loyalty has to be to the player here, and not to fans. I remember Billy Hite saying something similar a few years ago that if a player is projected to be a 1-2 round pick, he won't let them come back.
I don't see how coming back will help Ford or Bucky.
Ford is what he is, he's got tremendous ball skills and is an above average route runner. He's a bigger guy, but he's not fast. I've compared him in the past to Antonio Freeman but he's also similar to a Michael Crabtree type. He's not going to get faster by coming back for another year. He will compile more stats but that's not worth the injury risk. He's probably a 2nd round guy and will be on a roster for 5-7 years or so and have a very nice career. Thank him for his service and invite him back whenever he wants. My only regret is not seeing him play hoops for Buzz!
Bucky is big and has good hands. His biggest weakness is ironically his inability to use his height....he's really not good at high pointing balls (he almost let a 5'9" CB break up the pivotal pass Saturday night because Bucky was content to catch it at his waist). That's not going to get better in a year. He wanted to go pro last year, I just don't see where its worth the energy to try to convince him to stay. He's been a good TE/WR and will be missed but there are other areas where we may be better. I really hope he fulfills his potential.
Teller shouldn't go pro, just not enough market for OG's. He could get a lot of recognition next year which may make a lot of difference for OG's (?). If I'm Evans, I'm working on Teller. His pulling action is pivotal to Evans rushing.
Evans deserves a separate mention. He's clearly not ready, but it occurred to me last night how similar his stats and skillset are to Dak Prescott.
- Evans was 247/389 (63.5%) for 3309 yds, 27TD's/7Ints and ran for 759 (4.2) and 10 TD's. (13g)
- Prescott's Jr year was 244/396 (61%), 3449, 27/11; 986 rushing (4.7) and 14 TD's. (13g)
- Prescott returned for his sr year and went 316/477 (66.2%), 3793, 29/5; 588 rushing (3.7) and 10 TD's. (13g)
I guess that's about it. Tremaine Edmunds isn't draft eligible yet, right? He's our best NFL prospect after Ford/Bucky. All of the DB's need another year at least.
Tremaine is a true sophomore so he's not draft eligible for another year.
Funny. I was comparing Evans to Dak this weekend as well. I think PRescott was worth 2-3 wins per season to his team, and I think Jerod has similar value to us. He will be fun to watch next year.
Evans is a big strong guy who should have a stronger more accurate arm. A full year under Fuente/Cornelsen should help him get better at throwing.
{I don't need all these words twice}
Clemson has lost eight players -- that is right eight players -- on offense for the last two consecutive years. They are destined to lose another six or so this year. And the next year, they are right back there with a top-notch team. How do they do it? Recruiting, and good coaching. I live in SC and have seen the Clemson defense improve as the season has progressed. Young talent that is getting better with experience.
If VT were recruiting well, we would be less concerned about "loss" of talent, Instead, recruit well and look at replacing talent. That is the Clemson and FSU mode. And it works.
You mean defense. They didn't even come close to losing 8 players on offense from last year.
It is also almost certainly easier to lose players on defense. Less about system and more about raw athleticism than offense.
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Always enjoyed this place, especially the post game write ups. You all do a great job.
VT showed Saturday night that Fuente and the team have a very bright future ahead of them. As a Clemson fan I am truly terrified and excited about seeing VT return to prominence again. It'll be different than what Beamer built, but it'll be awesome and fun to watch as a fan of good football and ACC teams. Good luck to you all as VT plays in the Belk bowl, I'm already looking forward to our matchup next season in Blacksburg (which will probably be in the first four weeks of the season)
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Now, repruh'zint the ACC and beat the team up north from that armpit below the great lakes and (presumably) avenge that loss from last year sir!
VT is already locked in to four ooc games weeks 1-4. I just hope like hell we don't let espn pressure us into giving this up for a Thursday night.
I'm not so sure I would say they're "locked in"... if you look ahead at the future schedules on Hokiesports, the only times where the dates listed aren't strictly 1-4 are the years where we play Notre Dame. I'm pretty sure that in years past those dates would change between the end of the season and when the schedules are announced, as we work with the ACC to fill out the schedule.
I'd verify this using the Wayback Machine, but archive.org is blocked for me...
But then why use exact dates and not just generally on the schedule like all the ACC opponents. 2020 looks like a fun year though. Michigan, Penn State, and Louisville.
EDIT: Looking at wayback, the dates do move, but not by much.
The dates are generally tentative placeholders, and we do generally try to schedule the con-conference games before the start of the conference season. Sometimes ESPN or the ACC decides they want to see something a little different, like a conference game on Labor Day or a random neutral site non-conference game in October, in which case we have to adjust our schedule.
Well written Pierson. Fuente did as well as he could, and better than anyone expected, with the hand he was dealt. Simply stated, Clemson had more talent on both side of the field. VT had to resort to trickery at times; Clemson never did. On key possessions, more than once, Clemson stood up, and VT did not.
I think one important series that reflects on this issue: the third quarter VT defense pick, setting up the VT offense with a first down in Clemson territory. The Clemson defense responded, and the Hokies offense choked. VT went backwards, and ended up punting. Pure talent from Clemson prevailed. That pick ended up meaning nothing.
The other of course was the last drive of the game. Yes Clemson had a scare. But again, Clemson responded in a key situation, and VT folded again. Adrenaline and guts can only get you so far. Clemson stood up, squeezed the Hokies offense at will a second time, and won the game.
Overall we have to be pleased with this season. But VT needs to stop the bleeding now in recruiting. Clemson and Florida State have much larger recruiting staffs that Beamer had. The results showed. Both teams got all of the elite recruits from their home states, and poached on VT's turf at will. Hopefully with a good result this season VT will again be the place to go.
Clemson actually loses a lot of in-state guys, they do usually lands some top ones. Their recruiting success has been largely in Fla, Ga, Va, NC, Alabama, and even farther across the country at times.
Alabama beat Clemson last year by resorting to trickery. Just sayin'
I wouldn't say they folded on the last drive, unless I misunderstand the meaning. I put that on Clemson's talent stepping up.
You know what separates Clemson and VT, it's not coaching being leaps and bounds better, it's not players who are leaps and bounds better it's one thing and one thing only
You want better recruiting need cash, better coaches cash, need better facilities cash. Just look at the game Saturday not only does th Clemson athletic boosters ,IPTAY, support the sports teams they sponsor the band, providing equipment and uniforms. The band also provides scholarships. Join the Hokie Club and help VT football and every other aspect of Hokie sports reach their goals.
It would be nice if someone here on TKP would create a "beginner's guide to joining the Hokie Club" post. I just joined on Giving Tuesday, and I found the site and the process very confusing. I'm not even interested in getting tickets, I just wanted to donate to the scholarship fund. It seems like (1.) the season ticket process, with points and required donation levels and such, adds an extra level of confusion, yet (2.) the giving process assumes donors are only interested in tickets. It seems like other schools (like Clemson) have a similar setup, but if VT wants to really grow the Hokie Club, they might want to work on streamlining the process for first-time donors, or at least providing a little more hand-holding or guidance. I'm guessing there are a lot of alumni like me that don't go to games regularly but would like to support the athletic department.
Agreed. I've looked into it on several different occasions and never figured it out myself. A quick how-to would be pretty nice
Do you have specific questions? We have a thread around here somewhere I'll try and find it and bump it back up. The only issue is the entire system is being changed for 2017 giving cycle.
Well considering the Hokie Club just went through major changes in November, we're all beginners to the new setup. I found it very confusing and difficult to just re-up last year's payment. They're attempting to streamline the process -- VT alumni/Hokie Club/Ticketing -- all into one easy setup. I think they're figuring it out, but it may be a little rough to begin.
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS.
You can't be upset or surprised we don't recruit like a big dog when our alumni and fanbase aren't willing to throw down the cash for it. You gotta have the money to keep up with the arms race.
Off on a different tangent, who do most of you all assume will be the QB after Jerod?
Most likely Josh Jackson. Had a strong fall camp and will have two full years of learning the offense to his benefit. I don't really know what his ceiling is, but a lot of people are really high on him.
Didn't the coaches even say that he was doing well enough to make it a 3-Way competition pre-season?
I remember hearing that.
Yes, the word was that he was pretty polished a passer. I'm interested to see how good of a runner he is. Obviously, we had to rely on the QB to run the ball for us a lot, especially in the redzone.
Yeah, someone (though I completely forget who...sorry) said he might have been the most polished passer on the team. I don't know about his running and he definitely needed to add some arm strength but I really think he'll be a great QB for us. Hopefully we have as many blowouts next season as we did this year so we can get him some live game reps. At the very least, we still play UVA next year so there'll be plenty of time for him in that one
My #sauces have told me that JJ looked the best overall in fall camp especially in passing and decision making/quickness, but really needed to add some mass before being a starter. From what i've heard, next year he could really be pushing Evans for the starting job.
I don't think he's as much of a big body runner like Evans, but it sounds like hes still very quick and agile.
Ok, now how "honest" does Fuente stay to competition results? Beamer had a lot of loyalty to older players involved in position battles (see Glennon/Taylor). I think Fuente is truly going to field the guy who wins out, tie goes to older player.
Just please no 2QB (or 3, seriously, Bronco?) "system".
That is what he did with Paxton Lynch as a R-Fr. He unseated the expected starter who was a Senior I believe.
I think the expected starter was from the previous regime also. I'm not saying he would never do it, but it seems unlikely he would dump Evans, who was his guy this year.
I think he looks pretty good.
http://www.hudl.com/video/3/1362298/5721caa8b019261f80cb8198
Yes, but they opted for the red shirt since Motley was already a serviceable backup.
Technically they haven't "redshirt-ed him" yet. He did a Tyrod and dressed for every game. The feeling that I got was that if Evans were to go out for an extended period of time they would've put him in. Fortunately that didn't happen and they will retroactively redshirt him, but they obviously saw something they liked to dress him every game.
While we didn't win, we sent a very, very clear message to the rest of the ACC:
Virginia Tech football is back, we learned how to play offense, and we're pissed.
We're not an easy out for the talented teams anymore. Oh, you're Top 3? Don't fucking care, we're going to have you shitting your pants until the final whistle. And should we start to bring in talented kids, you better bring your A game, because we have the coaching to out-scheme you any day of the week. The last few years have been fun, but playtime is over, and the Hokie Bird comes to collect its debts.
I certainly ACREE! And so does Nick

A most excellent summary of the state of the program by Alum and top notch reply by dragone. Cheers.
Great job Hokies. Excited to see how Fuente prepares the team for a bowl game. Not to knock Beamer, but I think that area of our program could definitely see some improvement.
Also, the ACCCG performance definitely had to help our recruiting for next season.
Looking forward to Belk Bowlin CLT!
I am of two minds about this. I used to think the most important thing about December was winning the bowl game so you look good on national TV. But then I learned a little more about how important that extra month of practice can be to next year's team. If you can accomplish both goals -- prepare for the bowl game, and give next year's team a big head start -- that's great. But if you have to choose one or the other, is it better to spend December preparing seniors for the bowl game, or sophomores and juniors for next year?
If you want some more perspective on what I have been talking about, an ESPN reporter talks about how he now actively roots against Clemson because of how awful their fans are on social media.
I know and am friends with many great people who are Clemson fans, but their social media presence can be unbearable, and the comments on this Tigernet article do a good job to reinforce their point.
"No Clemson fans have poisoned any trees." LOL. Sort of analogous to Bobby Bowden's comment about how at least his corrupt star player "didn't murder anyone."