Buzzketball Central: Charleston Southern Buccaneers (4-6) at Virginia Tech Hokies (9-1) 9PM DEC 20 ESPNU

GAME INFORMATION
Date/Time: December 20, 2016 / 9 p.m.
Opponent: Charleston Southern
Site: Blacksburg, Va. (Cassell Coliseum)
Radio: Virginia Tech IMG Sports Network
Talent: Jon Laaser & Mike Burnop
TV/Internet: ESPNU
Talent: Alex Faust & Jason Capel
Live Stats: HokieSports.com
Game Notes: Virginia Tech

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Buzzketball is closing in on the end of their out of conference schedule. The Hokies have taken care of business to this point. Two more less than stellar opponents until they take on a Top Five team. These are some of the hardest games to win. An extremely overmatched opponent, a late night start, a game that might be taken for granted. The Hokies have come out slow in each of their last six games and honestly I don't know if this game will be any different. Hopefully it will dawn on these guys that they need to treat every team like they were a #5 Duke for at least the first ten minutes of every contest. Play your game rather than having it dictated to you.

This is a late game on a Tuesday when the school has sold off the student section to fill it up so hopefully with the holidays, most ticket holders will be in attendance and the stands will be full to cheer on these Hokies. It would be good to see a full arena considering the game is nationally televised.

Charleston Southern comes in to Cassell with a 4-6 record that is even more deceiving than it looks. You already see a losing record, than you see that their wins are over Division I Abilene Christian, USCAA opponent Johnson & Wales (NC), NCCAA opponents Columbia International and Toccoa Falls. Their losses include one to the same Abilene Christian team they had beaten earlier, South Carolina Upstate, Florida State, Alabama, VMI, and Georgia. The losses to the three P5 schools were each by 20 points or more. The Buccaneers come into this game with a KenPom Ranking of 306 out of 351 teams.

This shouldn't be the high paced game though that we saw against The Citadel. Charleston Southern scores a modest 77.6 PPG while giving up 72.5 PPG. This is heavily skewed though by 90+ performances against three of their overmatched opponents while only giving up an average of 53.3 in those three games.

This will be the sixth meeting between the Hokies and Buccaneers since 1976. Tech leads the all-time series 5-0, with the latest win coming in 2009, 73-50.


The Buccaneers are coached by Barclay Radebaugh who took over the program in 2005. Radebaugh has led Charleston Southern to two Big South conference titles as well as two NIT appearances in those 11 seasons, the latest in 2015. There was a huge talent drain from graduation after that season so the Buccaneers appear to still be building back up these last two seasons.

Defensively, the Bulldogs employ man to man and a couple different versions of a 2-3 zone. These defenses are not typically high pressure and are not designed to force early mistakes. The Buccaneers are extremely vulnerable underneath, allowing opponents to shoot 52% on the season.

Offensively, Radebaugh employs the Dribble Drive Motion Offense. Imagine four Seth Allen's on the court with one big underneath. This offense is designed to find weaknesses, penetrate the lane on the dribble to either find a shot or find the open perimeter shooter. It also has the effect to cause defenders to reach, leading to quite a few trips to the foul line. Trying to open the lane, expect to see the one big fade to the opposite side of the lane as the ball handler. This forces the down low defender to either follow his man, leaving the lane more open to penetration or stays put, leaving his many open to an easy interior pass. The Buccaneers still attempt over 20 three pointers per contest so the Hokies cannot afford to fall off the perimeter.

What does that mean for the Hokies?

The Hokies need to come out playing as if they were lined up against Duke. No more first half sleepwalks. This is another overmatched opponent so Tech should be able to win by 20 or more going away. Anything less says that the Hokies didn't play their normal game.

The Hokies especially need to be focused on the defensive end, because Charleston Southern grabs over 10 offensive rebounds each game so far. This contributes to a better than average offensive efficiency for the Buccaneers. Its also a faster paced offense than most, although nothing like The Citadel, so the Hokies can ill afford to let their guard down.

The Buccaneers have seven players that are shooting better than 35% from outside. Closing out on perimeter shooters will be critical in being successful in this game for the Hokies. The occasional foul of one of these shooters may not be as harmful as you might think. The Buccaneers are shooting only 60% from the line.

As another indicator of how little passing may be involved in the Buccaneers offense, they are 300th in assists with only 123. This means the Hokies need to be that much more disciplined on defense because the ball doesn't travel as much between shooters. Too often, the ball carrier takes the ball inside, attempting to force the issue down low. Sy needs to be extremely careful to not get in early foul trouble from leaning down on these tiny shooters.

Along the lines of passing though, Charleston Southern does use the pass to a cutting guard, so I would not be surprised to see Buzz go to a zone defense if Charleston Southern begins to enjoy success with the interior cuts.

Buccaneers Backcourt

Five guards get to see at least 10 minutes or more of floor time. Lots of substitutions to try to get opponents to rubbery legs, wore down for a late game push. Trying to figure this out against The Citadel got Tech in early trouble, so hopefully they learned the lesson in that game and can come out playing like they should in the first half of this contest. This team relies a bit more on a core group but still manage to spread the time around.

This team shoots much better than The Citadel though so Tech cant just rely on rebounding to create. As a team, the Buccaneers shoot 51% inside the arc, and 37% outside. Tech needs to have hands up and stay with their assigned man.


Sophomore Armel Potter, #1, 6'1, 180 lbs leads all Buccaneers in scoring. He is averaging 14.9 PPG, 2.4 RPG, 2.9 APG, while shooting 36% from outside. He attempts almost 4 three pointers per game. He has a balanced ability to shoot from outside or work the ball in but will be severely undersized against all the Hokies on the floor. Potter plays about 29 minutes per game.


Freshman Christian Keeling, #11, 6'3, 175 lbs is second on the team in scoring, putting up 14.3 PPG, 6.1 RPG, and 1.5 APG. Keeling shoots from outside at 38% but prefers to do his scoring inside, where he shoots 47%. Expect to see him use his big body to get to the basket quite a few times in this game. Between Keeling and Potter, they get to the line about 10 times per game, putting in 6.5. Keeling is playing about 27 minutes per game so far.


Junior Cortez Mitchell, #2, 6'2, 180 lbs comes in averaging 10 PPG, 2.4 RPG, and 2.3 APG. He is playing a respectable 22 minutes per game so far. This is the guy that can do damage from outside, currently shooting 46% so the Hokies can ill afford to let him get warmed up.


Senior Raemond Robinson, #0, 6'3, 190 lbs is averaging 6.3 PPG, 1.2 RPG, and 1 APG in almost 16 minutes per game. Robinson shoots a respectable 37% from outside.


Senior Patrick Wallace, #4, 6'1, 185 lbs, is putting up 5.7 PPG, 1.1 RPG and 1.3 APG in about 16 minutes on the floor. Averaging over 4 attempts per game outside the arc, hitting at about 37%.

Buccaneers Frontcourt


Junior Forward Javis Howard,#23, 6'8, 210 lbs will be expected to matchup as best as possible with Leday. Howard is putting up 7.1 PPG and 5.8 RPG while shooting 53% from the field in about 29 minutes of play per game. Leday and Sy will have their hands full down low.


Junior Jamar Martin, #5, 6'5, 215 lbs comes in playing around 19 minutes per contest, averaging 6.1 PPG, 4.3 RPG, and 1.2 SPG while shooting 46% from the field, 38% from outside, where he takes around three shots per contest.

Names the Announcers will Butcher

Ugo Mmonu and Barclay Radebaugh seem to be the only tongue twisters for me so far. One is the coach though so we should hear that one quite a few times.

What to expect from Charleston Southern?

The Buccaneers play predominantly a half court man to man or 2-3 Zone, but don't seem to gear it towards forcing turnovers. This seems to be the big difference both in pace of play and scoring between this team and the Citadel. Allowing opponents offensive possessions to run their course takes quite a bit of clock.

This team has fairly balanced scoring as well as minutes on the floor because of the pace of play they like to run. Charleston Southern regularly goes 10 deep, but the bottom three essentially are fillers to allow others to catch their breaths. The big thing tonight is that this team can shoot so not giving them the easy looks will be critical to success.

The breakdown on their average scoring is 38 points inside, 27 points outside, and 12 points at the line. Fairly well balanced so the Hokies must defend the entire half court, especially cant afford to let their opponent find space inside as this offense thrives on that type of spacing.

Rebounding wise, the Bulldogs are quite below average with 37 rebounds per night, which puts them about 260th in the nation in terms of rebounds. They lack the size to really challenge for boards, although surprisingly, they do manage to pull down 12 offensive rebounds a game.

One thing that the Buccaneers seem to not do is foul opponents very often. So far this season, they are averaging less than 20 personal fouls per game as a team. They also only give up about 21 free throw attempts per game. No one player is averaging more than 2.5 fouls per game.

The Hokies

The Hokies need to essentially put on opponent blinders and imagine that Duke is on the floor with them. Something, anything to get a full game effort from these guys. Tech will have the height advantage at almost every position. Combining that with our athleticism should allow the Hokies to build and maintain a big lead in this game early on.

In the rebounding game, the Buccaneers tend to linger on the offensive end so the Hokies need to be ready to score transition baskets. This is another game where if we are executing the way we should, several Hokies should be able to get easy buckets as they break to the basket ahead of the Buccaneers.

Pound the Paint, both Leday and Sy should each have double digit scoring in this game. Allen should actually be able to reach the rim with his dribble drive so I would expect to see some of that. Hopefully Robinson avoids early trouble and can get back in the flow of the game because it will be critical that he is at his best once we reach the Duke game.

Highlight of the Citadel Game

Hill from three or Chris Clarke with the Triple Double. Both were extremely impressive. Lets hope it continues.

In Closing

Very similar rosters, although the Hokies have better size and overall talent, Sound Familiar? This is another game where Tech should be able to manage a double digit lead by around the ten minute mark and carry on from there, but all of us have watched the last six games where Tech has come out slow. Opponent Blinders is what these guys need.

Hokies must be ready to see a movement pattern that they haven't faced yet this season. Hopefully they don't get sucked in and start reaching for their opponents rather than use their athleticism to recover and prevent easy buckets.

Hokies win big. We wont see a totally dominating effort but they will finally break the 1st half complete malaise. I expect to see a Hokies surge somewhere after the 12 minute officials timeout. Buzz will use that timeout to put them in gear if they haven't found it already. Final score 88-62.

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Comments

Thanks for another great write up. I'm looking forward to watching, but must admit that I am getting impatient for us to start playing more robust competition. I know, it is coming, but I'm ready to see how much power we'll have under the hood this year.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

First triple double in school history? Hard to believe.

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

They're not as common as you might think. The record for most in a collegiate career is 7. (Totally looked that up)

that's really surprising

Definitely wasn't expecting this one to be on tv

Oh wow, I didn't even bother looking at the graphic until you said something. I'm pretty surprised but I guess I know what I'll be doing the rest of the evening lol

Red Five standing by. I hope the good guys come out firing and this game isn't even a game after 5 minutes.

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

Why is it that it takes us a half to get going regardless of quality of opponent? The number of head scratching plays already in this game is concerning

Glad to see Sy rewarded with a start, now is the time to get him solid game minutes.

VB born, class of '14

I'm seeing a lot more traveling this year when our guys take a pass at the top of the key and start the drive in the lane. Was there some sort of rule change or are the refs just calling that a lot tighter?

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

Its not just our guys, I have seen it called *alot* this year.

Ball movement is great, but shots just aren't falling. That will change eventually, but it's yet another slow start

I feel like it's completely cocky to say this but I'm not worried. As soon as the shots start falling we should beat this team by 20-30

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

I completely agree. Nothing wrong with that. If shots fall, we beat this team easily.

Also, this Student for a Night promo didn't work.

I would be shocked if the student section looks much better against Duke.

Would or would not...

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Would.

As in, I don't expect it to look much better.

......It's Duke and the game is sold out.......

Even if there are no students, Tech will make sure people are in those seats

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like the break games weren't even part of the student season ticket package back in the day. You could just sign up for them the same time as they went on lottery. What's the system these days, whipper snappers?

Edit: I also wouldn't be surprised if we see a lot of Blue in the stands

We don't get break games as part of student season tickets. We have to enter the lottery.

So it's the same. And I would be highly surprised if students are going to drive down for a NYE game and then not be able to make it back to celebrate the holiday with friends.

So yes, it can be "sold out" but there won't be a full student section. And I would be surprised to see many out of town fans travel for a basketball game on NYE as well. So some of those season tickets that contribute to the "sell out" won't be there either

#GOACC for some sweet scheduling

Would they not then sell the unclaimed lottery tickets? Why enter the lottery/claim tickets if you're not going? Not trying to be argumentative. Just hoping they opened the student section up to the public at some point

If students know they won't be there, they won't enter the lottery, which will make it very easy for students to get tickets if they do end up entering the lottery.

The only time that I know that Tech has sold unclaimed lottery tickets is the Miami game last year which was on spring break, if I remember correctly. Hopefully they end up doing that for the Duke game.

Either that, or implement a general standby line for anyone who wants to get in a little late.

Cassell Guard twitter was giving away tickets to tonight's game to try to fill the place.

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

I saw someone suggest to them that they create a HokieTicket account and then anybody who can't make it to the game can use Hokie Ticket Share and then the tickets can be given to students. Seems like a great idea honestly

If we can keep getting to the line at this clip, we can at least stay in any game

Holy hell that reverse layup by LeDay in traffic while getting fouled.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Nice little run.

It could be worse.

CHRIS CLARKE IS A GOD DAMN SAVAGE

Awesome block and then goes "fuck it, I got this" to the rim

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Oh my word what a sequence by Clarke... He keeps this kind of play up in ACC play and he'll be seeing legitimate playing time at the next level

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

He's an overseas guy unless his shot drastically improves

Alright. The last two minutes is how I expected game to have went all night

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

Wow... There were 28 seconds on the shot clock when we got that shooting foul at the rim. That's right we pushed the ball to the opponents rim for a foul in 2 seconds off their last make... Wow

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Well the run took a lot longer to show up than I thought. If we manage to hit threes in the second half this will be a blowout.

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Yes it will. The threes we have taken have been mostly uncontested and we haven't missed them by much. Outlaw came up big to end the half with the last triple. Clarke was huge on that mini-run we put together to open it up a bit. Hoping for 61 (Edit: Math - it'll get after ya) in the second half so we can break a hundo.

Yeah, it's a 12 point game at halftime after a 15-2 run to end the half. We get a couple quick baskets to open the half and this should get ugly... Again

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

I know these guys have been struggling at the start of games recently, but there's still a lot to like with this VT team this year. Also, eventually those three have to start falling, right?

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

Absolutely... A team like ours doesn't stay cold from deep for long.

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

I make some interesting noises when Chris Clarke does Chris Clarke things. Damn.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Clarke is a man playing like he's ready for ACC play already. Or the postseason.

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

The announcers need to stop stealing my material

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Still playing sloppy, especially down low.

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

A unc bball alum cheering for alabama football. Move over musburger, I have a new least favorite announcer

West Virginian by birth, Hokie by choice

OK maybe I'm wrong and the threes aren't going to fall tonight after all...

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

Still feel like these guys are sleepwalking. Not sure how they just turn it on when Duke comes to town. This is six games in a row of slow starts. Not sure what it's going to take to fix it. Really want us to get a good start to conference play.

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Oh my gawd......Clarke oh my

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Chris Clarke isn't sleep walking...

VB born, class of '14

Not only that, he's waking the dead.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Feel like LeDay has not played all that well and our guard play leaves a lot to be desired right now. We've had many missed opportunities to blow this game wide open

This game reminds me more of our games last season, living at the line. Still, defense has been piss poor this second half

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

If we fall for one more pump fake I'm going to scream

Bibbs may have just picked up his fourth foul. Leday has looked his worst all season.

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Why is the ref across the floor calling a kicked ball for an inbounds pass into Sy's leg?

Garbage.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

If we piss this game away I'm going to break out the emergency whiskey.

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

Four fouls in one trip. Ridiculous. Poor job by officials regarding that non kicked ball

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

The fuck was that kick call about?

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

Wow that sideline ref has really let the CSU coach get in his ear. Pretty piss poor

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Hey Jack, how are we shooting from outside tonight?

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

It's crazy this game is still on this late with no students on a weeknight.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

It's all about the TV man, got to fill those slots

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

We are giving up too many offensive boards to the Bucs tonight.

Our guys are so bad at rebounding the first touch opportunity. Too much tipping it rather than high pointing and bringing the ball down

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

that close up was so awkward, Jesus

Wilson looked like the saddest guy in the stands.

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

Really need that ten point run to put this one away.

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

That was the saddest air ball chant I have heard in years

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Maybe the backups can hit a shot

West Virginian by birth, Hokie by choice

Still no Greg Donlon. I just don't understand.

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

since I've started watching i don't think I've seen a 3 drop.

Well if you started watching anytime after halftime, you literally haven't.

yeah, i got home right at the start of the second half

That's because we are hitting about 15% and all our makes were in the first half

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

There you go

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

This has been without a doubt one of the most frustrating blowouts ive ever watched. Talent won out over effort today. No reason we shouldn't have won this game by 30.

Sounds like the last 6 games as well. Minus the Ole Miss game.

ask and you shall receive.

Better late than never I guess?

I found TKP after two rails from TOTS then walking back to my apartment and re-watching the 2012 Sugar Bowl. I woke up the next day with this username.

Can Donlon get a couple minutes? Just about the only real irritation I have with Buzz at this point. Galloway just doesn't do it for me.

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Allen just couldn't resist making a bone head play with less than two minutes to go

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Yeah BABY. Bout time.

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Galloway dagger

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Donlon's offensive efficiency just took a huge hit there : )

Rob Peterson
VTCC
Charlie/Hotel Company
Class of 1999

Good win tonight! Somehow pulled off an almost 30 point win even though we were ice cold from 3 and played really quite shitty for the entire game. Would love to see us come out and smoke UMBC as a tune up for the Duke game.

Hope the players have a restful break and are ready to play on the 28th!

First game I have made it to in person this year. Thanks for the $10 tickets and free t-shirt Tech.

Wow, sloppy play, poor passes, no effort at rebounding on missed three's, and our three's were dead on arrival.

Night all.

*Won by 28

Always choose joy.

True, and a precursor to when we correct those things we will be beating the UNC's, Duke's, and Syracuses of the conference.