The espn or secespn blog coverage is rediclous. Nothing on the Hokies. Is anyone sick and tired of the sports leader? Post your concerns and debate now, but despite that..it's Go Hokies! We don't need espn bc that lack of coverage gives us engery to win. My rant is done.
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Heather Dinch: "Miami/FSU is back!" until they lose and then its "The ACC Sucks" thats all you need to know about the ESPN Blog
The only reason I venture over the ESPN any more is because they keep decent stats. Their coverage and analysis suck. The only coverage of VT is to say that we have a lot of uncertainties and to link to Andy Bitter, who does real reporting. French and Mason's analysis puts all of ESPN to shame and I can read Andy's stuff here without giving ESPN the page views. People only turn to them because they have been at the forefront of most major sports for a long time. I hope other networks, like Fox Sports 1, start to really challenge them.
Who still watches the four-letter for anything but games??? It has devolved into nothing but a propaganda machine serving its own agenda and scripted hype....a pimp for college football 's whores. I quit paying any attention to them years ago.
The town of Georgia pretty much outed them out to the rest of the people blind to this when the church and movie theatre both said the "who can stop clowney" signs were planted by ESPN.
Georgia is a beautiful town; as a matter of fact, I was born in the State of Ft. Stewart (Hinesville).
As Dan Patrick would say, "The Mothership sucks"
*Note*: I don't think Dan Patrick has ever said that but I'm sure he thinks it.
ESPN used to love us. They were all about the Hokies from 04-07ish. But we could never win in big games so they moved on to the next one.
I mentioned this in another post, but College Football games, GameDay, ATH, and PTI are the only things I tune into ESPN for. And I've even stopped ATH and PTI just because I'm busy. GameDay has fallen off a bit because I need to use Saturday mornings for productive stuff around the house.
But one thing that no one has been able to compete with is the GameCast stat pages ESPN puts together. I use them all the time and haven't found a live game stat feed that compares to it.
You can always stream the game from sketchy websites!!! But forreal screw espn writers for college football tbeyre terrible
I just don't get why their ESPN3 games don't have the GameCast IN THE SAME DAMN WINDOW!!! WHY CAN'T I GET THE STATS FOR THE GAME I'M WATCHING FROM THE ACTUAL GAME WINDOW. /rant
The gamecast window has a watch live button
Oh. /humble
At least it used to, I haven't used the gamecast yet this year. I know mainly because I used it to get around the blackouts when I was visiting my in-laws or watching from home(no cable/satellite) instead of at my parent's.
Not sure this measures up but have you tried Sportacular ( now Yahoo! Sports)? Pretty slick app w/ good stats.
No, I haven't. Just searched it, per your recommendation. One guy said he had to sign into Yahoo!...? Have you used it? Is this true? Do I have to have a Yahoo account or can I just be a random jagoff?
As long as I can get to team stats/passing/rushing stats it should measure up. I don't need drive charts, but seeing defensive stats would be nice. Is all that on there?
Actually, Ted Miller (Pac-12 writer) is pretty good. Seems pretty reasonable/unbiased and is a pretty funny writer, pretty similar to Andy Bitter.
Let's be honest: We haven't done anything.
That's not that big of a deal. I thought this season would go like it has, lose to Bama but find some good things then disappear from the spotlight for a few weeks only to reappear on a Thursday night in Atlanta. It's fine, we need to get better.
Be patient. We'll be heard from before this season is up.
Hopefully culminating with a big win in Charlotte, over the Clemson Tigers!
Just my opinion, but we really need to stop hating on ESPN on here.
They are a business and they do what they have to to make money. They cover teams that people care about on a national stage. (Yankees, Lakers, Cowboys, Alabama, etc.) That's how they make money and stay as popular as they are. Don't hate on them for being a VERY successful business.
If you are looking for VT coverage look here (French, Mason, and Joe may be the best there are), or TSL, or Andy Bitter, or Mike Barber.....need I go on?
If you want ACC coverage, HD posts news links to outside sorces every day around noon. Go to her blog (I know you don't want to give her the page views but still) and check them out.
If you want coverage of another team just google "*Insert Team Here* News/Blogs/Forums/Message Boards" and you will find all you could ever want to know.
ESPN, believe it or not, does have respect for us. They respect what Beamer has built here and rave about Lane Stadium and our atmosphere. The reason we don't get the airtime is because at the moment, we aren't relavnt on the national stage. When we are it will pick up again.
ESPN is the MTV of sports. I wonder if in 10 years their relevancy will be the same.
Maybe one day I will tell my children: "I remember when they had sports on ESPN."
I've been reading "These Guys Have All the Fun" which is a collection of interviews from various contributors and managers that have been at ESPN from its founding through to today. Some of it is pretty scathing stuff (like the Mike Tirrico finger bang assault or any story involving Olberman) but a lot of the book deals with the business, and how ESPN rakes in money by the bushel (and how they are really, really cheap when it comes to its talent).
ESPN's declining standard of journalistic integrity is what turned me off. The whole affair with Mike Leach and Craig James was a disgusting abuse of their position as a news organization. ESPN has also been very busy making news in conference re-alignment space for a while which I don't like. They've become big enough to dictate events and not just report on them, which is a little creepy, or at least it should be.
The quality of their broadcast product has slipped a little, in part because there are only so many A-teams of talent and they broadcast so many games now that dipping into the minors is unavoidable. But they are still leading the pack here.
Hopefully FS1 can actually start to eat into their mind-share a little. That's going to take a long time though since ESPN is sitting behind an awfully big moat backed up by even bigger walls. And their revenue structure (where much more money comes in from subscriber fees than advertising) makes them relatively insensitive to ratings swings. To really affect ESPN's business will take *years* of sustained ratings growth at the expense of ESPN's audience - that will start to improve the value of competing networks to close the revenue gap. Right now ESPN gets something like $2.50 per sub per month; FS1 is something around $0.15-0.30. It's going to take a while.
That subscriber+advertising revenue model is the secret to ESPN's success and the amount of money they make is incredible. So incredible that, for a few years, ESPN was the *only* profitable part of the Disney company.
I've been on the NBC bandwagon for a while, and with Notre Dame coming into the ACC I'm an even bigger proponent of spreading out college football games into another network. With FS1 handing PAC12 and Big12 games, BTN/ABC handling Big10 games (at least ABC handles them in my area, part of ESPN family), and ESPN/CBS handling SEC, NBC Sports needs to make a contract with the ACC to present our games. Could work wonders for them and really even the playing field among the networks. ESPN would probably still get whatever games they wanted, but if no one relies on ESPN anymore, their position will weaken.
Also FoxSports1's college gameday is better than ESPNs. Corso has completely lost it, Holtz just mumbles about Notre Dame. While I do like Fowler, May, and Herbstreit (most of the time anyway), I find the new names and faces on FS1 more interesting/informative.
I wholeheartedly disagree.
1) Corso had a stroke. Somehow he is still one of the best. They eased him back into a smaller role last year, this year they're giving him free-er reign. His everyday effort, even since the stroke, is better by miles than most studio types.
2) May and Holtz are not on GameDay. They're in the studio with Rece Davis (who shines brightly compared to them). Gameday is Corso, Herbie, and Fowler, and Desmond Howard in the mix. Erin Andrews will never be the 'anchor' that Chris Fowler is. He is brilliant in his role, Erin Andrews is pretty and in her second season in the studio. There is no college football broadcaster as good as Herbie. Eddie George is closer to Howard in talent and insightfulness, which skips over Corso entirely (already established as a second place to Herbie).
FS = For Suckas!
Don't be so neighgative about Erin Andrews. Obviously we disagree. Perhaps I'm just sick of the same old schtick that the College Gameday crew does. Truth be told I watch about 5 mins of it before the games start and find FS1 to be a breath of fresh air.
here's a turkey leg for 'neighgative'...liked that a lot
Sam Steele/Ponder > Erin Andrews
She married Christian Ponder. That makes her an automatic < anyone else.
Agreed. Once you get Pondered, you lose all credibility.
I couldn't agree more... College Gameday is second to none and while Fox is great with NFL coverage, they have a LOOOOOOOOOOONG way to go in College Football coverage.
New update on HD:
"2. Virginia Tech at East Carolina: When it comes to QBR rating, Virginia Techs Logan Thomas is ranked No. 132 out of 138. Shane Carden at ECU? Hes No. 23. The Hokies offense continues to be anemic, as Thomas had two passes intercepted in the end zone against an FCS team. ECU is better than an FCS team, and it's had its way with the ACC before. In 2008, ECU stunned the No. 17-ranked Hokies 27-22. In 2010, the Pirates beat NC State in overtime. This is the Pirates' last year in Conference USA before "moving up" to the AAC. The good news? Virginia Tech finished with 462 total yards, and the receivers didnt have as many drops as they did against Alabama, so there has been some improvement. Not enough improvement, though, to consider any game a gimme at this point."
while she makes a valid point no games being a gimmee, is 2 wins in the last 5 years ecu having its way the acc?
#espnlogic
With regards to Heather:
Typically, this fascinating creature roams open grasslands with small groups of her friends.
Guys she is interested in sometimes battle one another by butting their long necks and heads. Such contests aren't usually dangerous and end when one dude submits and walks away from the bar.
She uses her height to good advantage and browses on leaves and buds in treetops that few other people notice (acacias are a favorite). Even her tongue is long! The 21-inch (53-centimeter) tongue helps her pluck tasty morsels from branches. Heather eats most of the time and, like cows, regurgitates her food and chews it as cud. She eats hundreds of pounds of leaves each week and must travel miles to find enough food.
Oh and she occasionally tries to write a blog for ESPN.
Come on guys that's not all Heather Dinich does over there! She works hard and puts us on upset alert all the time! Ha.
I used to visit the ESPN Blog everyday until I noticed a pattern. All the information I was getting about the Hokies and most other ACC teams other then Florida teams were links to outside columns like Bitter. The work ethic on most days is to take highlights from ESPN College shows and reshow them or just link out all the good stuff and taking credit. I got tired of giving ESPN credit for other reports hard work. As for watching highlights I feel like ESPN has transitioned to a more shock and awe hour instead of showing the news. There are more segments about what controversies are brewing than who did what on the field. I watch games only now and if I want to see highlights I switch to FX1 or check them out online. I don't have time to watch TMZ's Sports channel.