Thought this was a unique read as schedules came out today and Johnson was going for the jugular with the same argument he has had in the past regarding opponents having a bye before playing them.
GT will be facing three teams coming off bye-weeks, the most in the ACC. More reason to hate him. It has some very good quotes:
EDIT: Sorry forgot the article link! http://www.ajc.com/sports/college/paul-johnson-unloads-acc-for-ridiculou...
"The conference tries to screw us every way they can," Johnson told the AJC on Tuesday.
"It has to be it," Johnson said. "It happens every year. It has to be intentional. There's no other explanation for it."
Sorry Paul...
Forums:
DISCLAIMER: Forum topics may not have been written or edited by The Key Play staff.
Comments
of course it's by design. it takes 2 weeks to prepare yourself to not punch him in the face immediately.
True.
Also, it takes two weeks to prepare for a gimmick offense that's different from the others.
That's what he counts on. The only thing worse than having to use your bye week to prepare for GT is losing to them because you didn't.
As much as I dislike that man and that program, I would also be livid.
So when can i be angry?
poor Louisiana Lafayette
Riiiiiiighttt........NOW.
I can literally see Paul on the phone calling his mom to complain about this. When will he realize that GT is too insignificant for the league to worry about doing something like this to them?
"too insignificant" = not geographically located on Tobacco Road.
have we literally forgotten the meaning of 'literally'?
Sometimes I wonder if people literally don't understand sarcasm.
Quite the opposite. Definitions are being added to include modern usage:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally
Are we literally unable to comprehend the idea that sometimes the word literally is used figuratively?
this is irridiculous
Or perhaps forgotten the meaning of hyperbole?
I literally had no idea I was starting such a firestorm. I'm so sorry.
He's got a point, but at the same time....you do run an offense different from everybody else. What do you expect bro?
I mean, we run a different defense than everyone else. He's got a point.
Yes, but two weeks of focusing on assignment defense can help you beat the option. All the prep time in the world can't save you from Bud.
I wonder if it has anything to do with all the chop blocks that his team implements.
He is right though. Still, I think it's friggin hilarious.
This is also the same man that was legitimately upset that Wake Forest played Army the week before the two faced off.
The article mentioned that he's also angry that Duke plays Army the week before they play GT. So we've already got that covered.
And anOSU lsot to us because they had to play Navy the week before...
Army, Navy, Air Force got to play someone the week before GT, so it matter as well be ACC schools!
He's right... Then again the conference is trying to protect its image and maximizing the chances of it not being upended by a program trying to actively set the sport back 50 years might not be the worst thing. Looks to me like the powers that be in this conference are tired of GTs shit just as much as we are.
I, for one, freaking love watching Paul Johnson's offense.
Literally the only reason a significantly higher percentage of coaches don't utilize it is because of pressure to appeal to casual, low information fans. IMO.
(Not calling Alum a filthy casual, btw)
Whatever floats your boat. I for one freaking love watching Justin Fuente's offense.
Literally the only reason it works at all for GT is that very few other teams run that system, and GT gets away with illegal blocks & false starts multiple times per game.
Paul Johnson is a tactical genius, that's a fact (my opinion)
I'm not going to fight with you (I really want to), saying CPJ is a tactical genius is like saying "Hey want to play checkers?"
"Sure." Your reasonable friend replies. He plays checkers quite often and knows the rules and general strategy for playing checkers.
You in turn smack a Chinese Checkers board on the table "I always play Chinese Checkers, you know this, it's unfair if you prepare or learn the rules properly."
Your friend says, "Hold on, that's fine, just don't do anything illegal." And you proceed to make him dodge 200-300 pound projectiles thrown at his knees for an hour.
I can see why you think he is Sun Tzu.
#AlternativeFacts
hoboy
Can we stop with the political stuff? I get that it's trendy but this is the one site online I'm not bombarded with this stuff. This is more annoying than Lawson transfer jokes.
uh... no.
That's like people saying pig's are extremely intelligent. Sure. Their intelligence is surprising and you can train them, but at the end of the day they still eat garbage and roll around in their own shit.
A genius' offense does not get shut down by one man. Yes I know it was a team effort and everyone played their role to free Kyle up, but ... no. this does not happen to a genius.
A genius could also win without teaching blocking technique that endangers opposing players. Furthermore a "tactical" genius wouldn't care if there was a bye week or not, because he would simply change his gameplan as any master tactician would. But he can't because in the end he is one dimensional, relying on the fact that his gimmick is rare, not because it is uniquely good.
case closed
Fernley, the entire premise of your argument is incorrect.
That wasn't just a man, that was a Fuller. Even a genius can't scheme around a Fuller.
I still love you though
this.... just got awkward
Puking now!
I wish Jenna Fischer were in more things. She's so cute.
Counterpoint: Paul Johnson hoodwinks the GT administration into giving him a contract fit for someone who is constantly competing for the ACC title, not someone who is whining about scheduling removing one of his only advantages. On some level, the man must be a genius on some level to have pulled this off.
Infographic of his contract.
One ranking of coaching contracts. Interestingly enough, PJ comes in at 45, Fuente at 52, and Frank's advisory role comes in at 50.
His 100% guaranteed contract is a thing of beauty for him. And somehow he gets a multi-year extension to it every time he has a good season.
yes, contractual genius I will allow. either that or the Georgia Tech AD was a complete imbecile.
(I am literally not being literal. The joke was just there.)
Fuente's MEMPHIS contract comes in at 52
Dude, he's not really a genius. Every other school that runs that offense is better at it, the only difference is that he gets better athletes because he's in a P5 conference. The Wofford coach would do a heck of a lot more with PJ's players...
Well is it literal (i.e., pertaining to a fact) or your opinion? Pick one!
Anyone who doesn't believe Paul Johnson is a tactical genius is factually incorrect. In my opinion.
Can we take that literally?
Eh it's a Mickey Mouse bull shit offense that you run in middle school. Tactical genius is a stretch.
With that being said it's a Novocain offense. Give it time and it will work. Enjoying watching it and respecting it are 2 different things for me.
Yeah, no. The reason a significantly higher percentage of coaches don't utilize it is because it's very difficult to convince recruits to play in it. It in no way prepares anyone to play professionally, except maybe RB, who it doesn't hurt, and WR, who have to learn to block. WR's still don't like it because they don't get the ball as much as a typical college offense. As a QB, if you go to an option team, you're admitting it's your last stop playing football. It's tough to convince quality talent to accept that.
The other reason is that being one dimensional will always catch up to you in the end. You might be able to beat anybody on a given day but almost guaranteed to not beat everybody.
I don't know man... I think one of PJ's better offenses combined with a top 10 defense (which he's never had) could be good enough to run the table.
That is basically true of any team. But, every team on the way to a title is going to have to overcome some adversity and mount a comeback. I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but generally GT is butts when hoping for a comeback. On the flip side they are scary when they have the lead. The odds are much better for a more diverse offense to run through the playoff.
1st year at GT he had the best QB that's he's had in his time there (probably ever) and a DL that featured 4 future NFL draft picks and at least 1 DB who's still in the NFL. That D was very good. Yes, it was the 1st year of that O at GT, but late season, when "new O" was no longer a valid claim, they got blown out by UNC and LSU, due to bad O play, including a number of turnovers by the O.
At the same time, if you run the triple option, you don't need big time recruits. PJ would rather have his OL than Bama's (for his system). Rule is a little different for QB, but PJ isn't looking for a 4/5 star QB.
I, for one, don't understand the ins and out of football too well and I do enjoy watching Georgia Tech play even though at hate them ***so much*** when we play them.
I wouldn't go this far, but I do agree that variety in offensives/defense schemes is one of the many reason that college football is superior to NFL.
I like parts of Johnson's offense. The option and misdirection aspect is really cool, but this offense has very limited big-play potential and little to no passing dimension. It really is death by a thousand cuts. They are going to hammer you up front with the dive and then get you out of position with the option game, but with such tight formations, keeping the defense right around the ball, the gains are usually limited. You milk clock and slowly pick up yards and first downs, but if you fall behind it's almost impossible to come back with this offense. A solid defensive front can usually neutralize this offense. Stop the dive and play gap-sound football.
What I love about spread option offenses (like Fuente's, Urban Meyer's, Clemson's, etc.) is that these option principles are retained, but we utilize spread formations to force you to defend the entire field. If you catch someone out of position, you can take it to the house. Also, there is a lot more passing with multiple receiver sets. This offensive style is fast, balanced, puts up points and yards, and is honestly way more fun to watch.
Well that, along with recruiting guys with NFL aspirations, although I find it amazing that such an offense has produced so many top flight WRs in the NFL. I mean, they're lucky if they throw the ball 10 times a game. Why that has happened blows my mind.
Just realized I forgot the entire article link, it is now mentioned above!
PJ being a little bitch doesn't require a source.
It must have been "chopped".
This is my new CPJ gif
Great show by the way. Criminally under ranked.
Fuck Paul Johnson
Fuck Pat Narduzzi
relevant: Fuck Matt Ryan
This is what I came here to see!
via GIPHY
12 comments in a CPJ thread before the first fuck given?
TKP is slacking
via GIPHY
Normally, I don't give a f##k....But I will make an exception in this case....Here, have another one....f##k. That's 13 f##ks now....
Ohh ffs shut your mouth.
Shut your mouth when you're talking to me!
There was some discussion about this going on today on Reddit. Apparently the ACC tries to accommodate between 1-3 requests per team as far as scheduling goes and having a bye before gt is a very common easy to satisfy request
It bears to mention that game times are at the mercy of the networks, not the ACC in January.
If you believe the ACC (and this is mentioned in the linked article), requesting an open date before playing a specific team isn't part of the process.
A school can request an open date or away game on certain dates (to coincide with fall break, for instance) but not much else.
I think he's probably right but yeah don't feel sorry for him.
I briefly thought the title said "Paul Johnson fired" and got excited... Oh well...
Sorry not sorry.
The day that I find out that we do not have to play against that (God awful, 50+ yr old) offense (that does not translate to the next level) anymore will truly be one of the happiest days of my adult life.
Man wouldn't that be entertaining for a season to watch the browns (because of course it would be the browns) run the triple option for a season before giving up on another quarterback
(that does not translate to the next level)
To clarify
No triple option QB from GT, under CPJ, will ever record one snap under center in an NFL game.
And I don't see any WR recruited by and coached by CPJ getting drafted.
Stephen Hill (Rd 2, pick 11, 2012), Darren Waller (Rd6, pick 28, 2015), and DeAndre Smelter (Rd 4, pick 33, 2015) have been drafted as WR since CPJ has been at GT.
Now, getting drafted and having success in the NFL are two very different things
Was going to say, I think they've had more receivers drafted than we have since Johnson has gotten there and I bet Jeune gets picked next year. I feel bad for Smelter, I thought he was going to be a star but he's never come back from his ACL tear. Hate that for guys
..
I see that 3 got past me, but they aren't that successful in the league. Their stats are not reflective of their level of talent. They don't run true pass plays. (you have to admit that the only pass plays for GT are trick plays) Passes are only called when they get behind the sticks and it's 3rd down.
Can you imagine how hard the ACC would drop the hammer if GT had no-show classes?
Women's golf would be crushed.
Can't have a football team in trouble when they play an SEC in-state rival.
Well it doesn't help that the commissioner is the former UNC AD
Hint: same dude in charge when the fake classes started up
"What do you mean they are fake? I made those classes, they are totally legit. Just to make you happy, I'll investigate."
Do we really give a fuck?
No but it's hilarious
Hmmmm, ZERO VT opponents have bye weeks before playing us.
HEY PJ! Get to the ACCCG and your scheduling doesn't suck!!!
#ThatsHowAllOfThisWorks
This gif needs to be on the fishing report thread!
Go to the AAC, bitch!
-Literally everyone in FBS
Is there a reason we hate CPJ other than his crappy offense that is a pain in the butt to prepare for?
chop blocks leave our team with a lot of injuries.
Curious if there is any data to back this up.
I hate GT enough I may actually look into it in the future. In a quick link to show this is still hot, SB Nation did an article on GT's bowl game. 2 injuries for Kentucky on 2 consecutive plays. One (the latter) seems incidental. On the first, it sure damn looks like a chop. Also throw in on the former, the perimeter cut block (legal) comes in at the side of the knee. That is just a bad catch away from a blown ACL and an off season spent in rehab.
The reason I hate CPJ on this so much is his insistence that it is "out scheming" his opponent. Look at interviews from '09 when Beamer sent 11 plays to be reviewed by the ACC after we lost to GT. The ACC admitted they blew at least 4 calls there. CPJ said that Tech and Beamer were just bitter that they were out schemed. Throwing highly dangerous blocks that result in lower legs injuries with surprising frequency should not be a regular tactic, at least not from the side where ACLs are so over exposed. If there is an opportunity to properly coach an athlete to block head on instead of being lazy with a cut block, I believe it should be taken.
It's the chinballs
This has gotta be it.... dude looks like the judge in Pink Floyd The Wall...
At first glance, did anyone see what I saw?
Seems fitting.
If Bud Foster hates it, then that means I hate it.
Fact: Not hating this man is one of the steps to being named a saint. (In my opinion.)
I think it must be a safety thing. Give the opponents as much time to learn how to protect their body's against illegal chop blocks as possible.
Just more reminder that we hate Paul Johnson.
Not that we needed one more.
I did find this part interesting, as it seems to be an interesting "coincidence". Makes GT look pretty unlucky.
For good measure, Johnson also took issue with the fact that Duke plays Army — which runs an offense highly similar to Tech's — the Saturday before the Blue Devils face the Jackets. A common lament among Tech opponents is that a week of practice is not enough time to prepare for the Jackets' unorthodox spread-option offense.
The best part is that Duke gets a bye week before they play Army. Two weeks to prepare for the option then they don't even have to re-learn how to play a real offense until their last game...against Wake Forest.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you schedule GT.
I don't know how they manage to work that, but it's
ehhh I don't think this is different from any other team/fan base. I mean if Miami, Clemson, UNC, Pitt all had byes before playing us, most people on here would have their hands in the air and saying the ACC is screwing us.
At the end of the day, you have to play the hand you're dealt, and this time, we had a pretty good draw and GT got screwed this year.
I think that actually happened a couple of years ago.
It did (2015 gave Duke, Pitt, and GT all byes before us. We lost to Pitt and Duke) and we all bitched about it, but our coach didn't make a clown of himself as a response.
That's because CFB is going to be in the Hall of Fame and CPJ won't even be allowed general admission.
I'm guessing you mean CPJ won't even be able to buy tickets, yes?
He can throw away money on tickets all he wants, they just won't let him in even with a ticket.
People on here would be upset. What you wouldn't see is our head coach publicly whining about it.
It is logical that a team that has a bye before a team that doesn't would have an advantage; however is there actual evidence that this is true for both against Georgia Tech and teams at large (not a rhetorical question)?
2008 Chick-fil-A LSU 3-38 L
2009 Orange Iowa 14-24 L
2010 Independence Air Force 7-14 L
2011 Sun Utah (OT) 27-30 L
2012 Sun USC 21-7 W
2013 Music City Mississippi 17-25 L
2014 Orange Mississippi State 49-34 W
So I did an in-depth study of bowl teams and teams playing on the first weekend of the season, since they had multiple weeks to prepare for a specific opponent. After hours of crunching numbers, I determined that 50% of these teams lose in that situation. :-P
So here's your raw data. Click for data, not a scam.
I posted it earlier up without context. This is the last 10 years of "Off-Bye-Week" opponents formatted as Team, # of games played, record, winning percentage, and points scored.
At a quick glance, most teams actually seem to be at or above .500. The glaring exception in the top 25 or so are Kansas, .166, Georgia Tech, .333, UCLA, .294, Idaho, .375, and Marshall, .313.
To make that list, I took anyone below a .4 (6 teams were in the .4-.499 range) in the top 25. That means 80% of the teams that play the most off-bye-week opponents are winning about half the time. 56% of the top 25 teams that play the most off bye week opponents have a 50% win rate or better, some like Alabama and Arkasas State have won over 80% of their games.
Conclusion: GT has been boned in this type of game, not everyone is.
Edit: Over the whole sample, the combined win/loss is 861-801 over 1661 games leading to a win percentage of .518.
Interesting that Bama has played the most such games over the last 9 years (34), and it isn't even close. VT and UL-Lafayette are actually tied for second with 20, just over half of Bama's total.
And looking at the list, only 6 of those 34 are non-conference games. Kind of crazy that the SEC would give Bama such an unfavorable schedule, averaging over 3 such games each year. 2010 was the worst, where the SEC gave them 6 games against teams coming off a Bye, plus Georgia State in a non-conference game.
So, a lot of SEC schools would hold off scheduling non-conference games until the conference schedules showed up (more or less). They would intentionally leave an open date before playing Alabama. It got so bad, the SEC made a rule to only allow Bama to play against 3 off-bye-week teams per season.
And you can bet your ass they play exactly three per season now.
With Bama, it's offset by having the number one recruiting class EVERY YEAR.
Well, basically whenever PJ opens his mouth, all that can be heard is this